I've been defending Firefox for too long, but this browser

Opera?

>>60467732
>chinese botnet

>>60467693

Any alternatives will have far fewer users than Chrome, and will therefor be much more apt to bugs, glitches, exploits, etc. simply because they are used far less than the popular alternatives.

There are other choices, but I can't personally reccomend any, because honestly they are mostly garbage.

>>60467693
I remember on my old desktop, I had a literal chinese browser from when I left Firefox behind, but before switching to Chrome. Was pretty good.

A google search reveals it was Maxthon
http://www.maxthon.com/

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>>60467756
I honestly use chromium lol :p

>>60467693
You have to wait for the Servo engine I'm afraid or take a look at the numerous forks of FF, maybe there is one which suits your needs better.
>>60467756
Chromium being Google free is a meme, look it up.

>>60467786
>Chromium being Google free is a meme, look it up.
>look it up
No fuck you, gimme a source.

>>60467883
chromium is chrome without the proprietary media plugins, anything else is the same.

>>60467883
It still requires a google API key to build it for example.

Vivaldi is what I moved from Opera to.

Are these threads some kind of botnet script?
I don't pay attention to mozilla's SJW shit, and I hate the fact that they sometimes remove config options for the sole purpose of treating users like idiot children, but I've never had a problem with the usability of firefox itself.
And I find chromium runs worse than firefox. Also I hate the mouse scrolling, the fact that you need to run a third party autohotkey script to scroll through tabs, and the way closing expanded images on 4chan seems to reset your position on the page

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Get the latest Nightly build, the performance is great because Quantum is being implemented and they're slowly phasing out the shitty Australis interface in favor of the new Photon one that's more like pre-Australis Firefox. The built-in Compact themes (new revisions of the old Developer ones) have squared tabs already too (also coming to Photon in the future), which helps take away the sting of WebExtensions becoming standard and Classic Theme Restorer probably eventually becoming deprecated. Note: in pic related I used userChrome to get rid of the hamburger button and some shitty thing in the URL bar, but that's it.

Better question: why would anyone use Chrome instead of Chromium?

>>60468479
Is Quantum the Servo engine?

>>60468220

No, the performance is just so bad now. My guess is most Mozilla talent jumped ship for those Google bucks.

>>60468559
Easier to get on pleb platforms.

>>60468577
Yeah it is.

>>60468616
I'll take a look, I have been waiting for servo for a while now. Although maybe I'll wait a bit more and let them implement more of it.

>>60467937
>>60467786
Ungoogled chromium != Chromium
Google it :^)

>>60468643
More like DuckDuckGo it.

>>60468642
Yeah it's in its early stages hence Nightly only, so it's still a work in progress. The performance felt actually felt worse until one update vastly improved it. I think you still have to enable the new stuff in about:config.

gfx.webrender.enabled;true
browser.photon.structure.enabled;true

>>60467757
>Any alternatives will have far fewer users than Chrome, and will therefor be much more apt to bugs, glitches, exploits, etc. simply because they are used far less than the popular alternatives.
I get the worst glitch exploitations on Chrome. probably because it's so popular they target it specifically.
These are malicious exploits, though. Accidental hangups are more likely in less known browsers

What is the best security focused firefox fork at the moment?

and don't tell me brave, i don't fall for that meme

>>60468220
firefox is still superior to all the botnet trash. The tab management of chrome alone is full retard (they get smaller and smaller because they don't have a moving pane)

>>60468559
updates itself easily

>>60467693
Spotted the shill

Is https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium a good alternative?

I do want to migrate too, but I only have 3GB of Ram. Weirdly, Firefox handles those well for some time. I'm able to open lots of tabs.
Other alternatives have given me problems, like Chromium for example can't handle those, many times I've had tabs crashing because of out of memory.

>>60467693
Vivaldi has turned out awesome.

>Chrome but the performance is unbeatable
Still spreading this fake crap.
When Chrome launched the shills claimed it's super fast but it was as slow as FF which had 10+ addons.

>>60468932
yup

>>60468932

I had bad experience with ungoogled chrome, like every 5 minutes blocks google api calls or something, its so unstable that somehow stopped blocking the google calls and the store, spell checker and other things that were disable by default started working by itself

>>60469022

Don't be a moron, we're not comparing first release performance.

chromium > fuckfox
fuck firefox
shit cant play full hd video on youtube without stuttering
fuck that laggy shit
when i open facebook with it, try to open comment section of some post, it fucking crash if there are lots of comments
lemme say again, fuck firefox, i hope it dies

>>60468948
chrome is a big memory hog. on computer with less memory, I had some tabs open like in firefox and at some point discovered the HDD churning due to insufficient memory. usually this would never happen, even with triple the tabs.

>>60467693

Why do you keep making these threads every single day? Genuinely curious.

Firefox is going to kill itself by forcing WebExtensions. Switch to pale moon.

>>60469184

I haven't posted this before. 4chan has millions of unique users, dumbass.

Nice thread, Pajeet.

>>60469255
Still sounds like our average chrome shill. Unoriginal crap.

>open 10 tabs in firefox
>gets stuck, can't do anything because no multithreading
>open 10 tabs on chromium
>these tabs inflate till there is no more ram left and the entire pc gets lagged to oblivion
well shit

A few years ago my peev was Java, now its just everything.

its as if they gave up without ever starting to resist the Corporate pressure.

Meanwhile almost all of us are to brainwashed to see that either the alternative or what the light should look like.

>>60469373

>be wrong
>"im gonna sulk and cry shill"

grow up

>>60469141
This is bullshit man, also why do you still use Jewbook? Haven't Cuckenberg got rich enough of your data yet?

>>60469390
>be retarded shitposter
Still post even worse damage control.
>/our guy/ faggot turn out to be a blue pilled shithead.
You are just another neo-/g/ trash

>>60469457
>shill
>politics
great
t. another anon

>>60469457

You're just a stupid memer incapable of thinking outside of the framework of a 4chan troll
>shitposted
>damage control
>/ourguy/
>blue pilled
>neo-/g/
Use real words.

>>60469414
they say people get the thing they deserve. It also seems to hold true with browsers.

>>60467693

Brave has better performance than Chromium these days.

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>>60467693
>browser has gone to complete shit
What a great argument.

>>60469217
/thread

>>60469141
never had any of these problems.

There are no good browsers left, but if you want to remember the glory days of Firefox, Pale Moon is a pretty good alternative. It's - for good and for ill - pretty much Firefox from when Firefox was still good, with security patches applied.

>>60467693
Do a profile refresh.
Firefox is faster than ever. That is unless you're using it on a Pentium 2.

What are you doing that makes you think Chrome is faster? How many addons do you have enabled?

>>60468577
Quantum is Gecko with Servo components.
>>60468616
No it's not.

>>60470320
Okay, so servo is even farther away still.

>>60467693
I wouldn't say it's gone to shit... it's pretty much now recently they started on actually improving performance (multi-process and also servo is gradually being integrated into firefox).

>>60467693
Midori?
I've been using it for a week and a half and I like it so far. It's fast, has a built-in ad blocker and uses native widget style. That last part is big plus if you have riceing autism.

>>60470896
Midori is okay, but for me is just not good enough to be my daily driver.

>>60467756
>trusting a random github project

>>60470604
Of course, they don't even have Servo replacing Gecko in long-term plans yet. it's sooo far away.

Can anyone recommend IceWeasel or IceCat? Do they have anything fundamentally different I can't change in FF?

install waterfox/palemoon for ff replacement
install Brave/Iridium for chrome replacement

a problems wasn't

>>60467693
Opera, Vivaldi, Brave, Safari, Edge are all fine

But Chrome is still probably better than all of those.

WaterFox vs Pale Moon vs IceWeasel

Which one and why?

>>60468177
I opened my Vivaldi this morning and when I did firefox opened up (I've never had firefox on this computer).

How the fuck did Vivaldi turn into Firefox?

>>60475079
But when I opened it a second time it was back to Vivaldi and asked to update.

Completely fucked. I have Little Snitch. My 'Firefox' was trying connecting to mozilla.

Palemoon is literally old school Firefox, aka Firefox without all the bloat and shitware

>>60475079
>>60475110
and to further give context, I only use vivaldi to look at porn webms - not video sites, just webms. It isn't my main browser (Safari is). What the fuck.

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What's wrong with Firefox?

>>60467693
If only we could fire everybody on Firefox right now and get back Eich.

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>>60469141
>fuck firefox
>when i open facebook
Says a lot.

>>60469217
>>60475140
But Pale moon also uses older versions of my extensions tho.

>>60475375
Not just fire them - anyone involved with WebExtensions needs to be killed and bodies burned to prevent infection.

It all comes down to privacy vs security. If you want privacy go with some fork like palemoon or ungoogled chromium/iridium. If you want security go with standard version of chromium or Firefox. Chromium is supposed to be more secure since it's sandboxing everything. Now where opinions part is if you should use stable builds or alphas/betas/nightlies. Some hackers target stable releases, others (or the government) may use zero day exploits in nightlies that are basically constantly added. Unbotnetted Forks that are better for privacy are worse for security because they are updated slower than the normal versions of the browsers and thus more vulnerable.

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>>60467693

IceCat

if you are a gay bitch, you can turn off LibreJS and it will be faster

>>60467693

The only alternative is Chrome or some Firefox fork such as Waterfox, Pale Moon, etc...

Chrome is pure shit, for one thing, your privacy is non-existent. Google allows all sorts of data collection in their addons, while Firefox does not. Plus, Chrome addons are pure garbage in comparison to Firefox. One last thing about Chrome, their UI is completely locked down, so there's zero customization to the browsers UI, other than stupid ass themes that just change the color and add goofy artwork.

As for the Firefox forks, they're crap too, since half the addons don't work in them.

Firefox itself is still good. The only problem I have with it, is it gets slow when streaming vids. If the devs fix that bullshit, Firefox will be rock solid.

>>60467693
You see, I use firefox. It's my favorite.
some of theses days a person posted here about how he has used firefox for so long and how he was fascinated to observe Opera using much less ram.
I tested Opera, it indeed was far superior in ram consumption. I can't stand proprietary software, it's a problem to me. But firefox is not this good, anymore. It does use much ram, and does have major bugs.
I wish I would find some free software that works well like Opera but have addons like Firefox.

firefox is ok

>>60468713
newfag

>>60469141
you don't belong here

>>>/b/

>>60467693
ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium or iridium https://iridiumbrowser.de are basically chrome without botnet shit

What browser should I use for windows 7 64 bit when I have 2 gb of RAM?

>>60480137

A noose

Microsoft Edge doesn't have these problems

join the placebo-masterrace
>just like good ol' pre-30 firefox
>AB Prime is exclusive for pale moon
>can poison canvas fingerprints
>non-insane development

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>>60480311
forgot pic

>>60480311
redpill me on Pale Moon

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i would instantly switch to firefox if it didn't waste so much space for nothing. pic related for comparison with chrome. note how much lower the search bar is in firefox...

>>60480581
redpill yourself...
>palemoon.org/info.shtml
if you like the old, pre-australis firefox & the old plugin api, this is for you.

for now this is your best choice if you disagree with mozillas current direction and don't want to switch over to chromium (or run iceweasel on linux).

Vivaldi

>>60476501
I turned off libre js and it was barely usable on my thinkpad, especially when loading any page it would take forever and would slow everything down to a crawl forcing me to wait until it was fully loaded before being able to do so much as scroll around.

Installed Firefox, boom, all problems magically fixed.

>>60467693

>, but this browser has gone to complete shit in the past couple of years and it's time to retire it.

how so?

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>>60480582
firefox now has a compact default theme, you can switch to it easily

>about:addons
>appearance

>>60479973
How does it compare to iridium? I've heard that iridium is basically ungoogled chromium but hardened, and I've also heard that ungoogled chromium is basically iridium but better unbotnetted, and I don't know which to believe.

>>60480931
that does jack shit on linux

>>60467756
>not using Brave

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>>60480955
too bad, it's pretty comfy on windows

>>60467756
it's horribly outdated

>>60480955
but anon, it works on a non-ancient distro :^)

>>60469414
>this is bullshit man
sadly it's not, firefox always lags like shit while playing videos

>>60467693
Dropped FF at version 4. Dropped Chrome in 2015. Currently using Opera but UI has gone ugly(but still usable), so I'm preparing to drop it as well. It's all about meme reskins at this point.

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tangentially, how's seamonkey? i've been thinking about trying it out lately, and i really like the classic browser look it's got to it, but i haven't heard much about it. looks promising so far, though

>>60480582
Agreed, especially with 16:9 where every vertical cm counts

>>60480582
>triggered.png
you literally waste 18px on firefox vs chrome and do not care about wasting 24px on the idiotic gnome2/mate bottom bar in every application you run

>>60467693
use xombrero

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>>60467693
Edge

>>60483620
cringe

>>60467693
I have been considering jumping ship too. Too often, Firefox crashes or goes into a cycle of non-responsiveness that forces me to restart it.

>>60484868
what's wrong with chrome?

>>60484953
Le botnet.