Google just killed Android rooting

>>60466496
Oh no, I can't install my favorite botnets on my botnet now.

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Why an archive link? Did they pull it?

>>60466496
>He doesn't know about root hiding
>He really thinks this will stop people from sideloading it anyway

>>60466496
Can I still install gentoo on my phone?

>Google killed rooting because Netflix said so!
What the fuck?

>>60466537
For the average autistic /g/ user afraid of blogs and ads, even though they use adblockers, and this is a major blog.

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>>60466546
This

>>60466546
>Google also announced that even sideloaded apps will get scanned by their new Google Play Protect service, which may help nullify the risk of sideloading in the first place.

>>60466548
Yes dude u can..
U can make a joke about but u dont know the fact that gentoo can run anywhere
Lame faggot

But hey! Magisk su passes the safety net shit
So chill fellow faggots!

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STALLMAN WAS RIGHT AGAIN
YOU DON'T OWN YOUR DEVICE

>>60466566
>>Google killed rooting because Netflix said so!
>What the fuck?

Wrong.

I didn't read the article, but I know what SafetyNet is. It's an API provided by Google that allows developers to phone home to Google to determine if a device has been $compromised or rooted". The API sends (I'm assuming here) a payload to Google. Google analyzes it and returns a Boolean value. There's hardly any documentation on it (well from when I looked at least).

The API is not new. Netflix could have implemented its use months ago

>>60466496
and why would i root?

>>60466808

>I didn't read the article,

This is obvious, because THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE FUCKING API YOU HAVE IN MIND, COCKLICKER.

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE NOT TO MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF:

>This is different from the full SafetyNet API implementation that apps like Android Pay and Pokémon Go use.

>>60466496
We already have systemless root to allow OTA updates, Android pay etc. This will be worked around.

>>60466643
>Google Play Protect service
Disable it. You have root. You can do anything.

>>60466643
If your device is rooted could you not just remove that.

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>netflix
Oh no

>>60466496
Considering Xposed is only available on 6.0, I'm not upgrading to anything newer either ways. I could also install Magisk or whatever to bypass SafetyNet but nothing I use blocks rooted phones.

>pay for apps
>have job
>root device
>get shat on
Fuck you Google.

>>60466643
It'd be a shame if the root user disabled that service ;)

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THIS MAN IS A PROPHET

>>60466496
https://stallman.org/netflix.html

>use iOS
>not autistic
>never even changed my wallpaper on any iPhone since 2010

Feels great to not be mentally ill and require my smartphone be able to torrent faggot trap porn and chink cartoons or whatever you guys do on your Xiamomemeo phones.

>>60466839
Read it.

So the SafetyNet integrity is being checked when using the play store. This change allows developers to leverage the SafetyNet API without implementing it in their app, and instead allow the play store to deny access to the app via disallow download if the end device does not meet the criteria.

It's still using the SafetyNet API you dumb shit.

have they implemented consistency yet or are too assfucked already?

I root my phone so I can use android without google.
This already mean I can't use the majority of android applications.
Not being able to watch tiny movies is not really a problem for me.
Google has always been a tyrannical dictator ship hellbent on the destruction of humanity.
They have the morality of a terror organization except they actually have a cause they are fighting for: they want to make money.

It is just a matter of time before they are rightfully executed for the war crimes they are committing against humanity.

>root phone
>remove pre-installed bloat
>unroot phone
>???
>profit

What kind of retard leaves his phone rooted what the is wrong with yoou?

>>60466496
>100 billion indians and russians vs. something that makes custom roms not work
who would win?

>>60466929
>A friend once asked me to watch a video with her that she was going to display on her computer using Netflix. I declined, saying that Netflix was such a threat to freedom that I felt uncomfortable with promoting its use in this way.

this guy serious?

>>60467273
Well the russians hacked the US election so they win.

>>60467288
Yes. I respect Stallman because he always stands by his values unlike the weak men who are willing to trade them for a single night of sexual relations with a female.

>>60466803
LineageOS + F-Droid doesn't have this problem

>>60466496

Can't you just disable root and boot into recovery when you want it back?

>>60467682
Don't forget Yalp Store

>>60466537
Because OP is a tourist.

>>60466496
>using netflix
top

lel

desu

>>60466873

Can't download their movies and watch anywhere.

>>60467260
People root their phones to do much more than remove bloatware.

>gapps
>netflix
who gives a shit

>>60466643
What is yalp store?

primewire [](dot)[] ag
>not recording your streams with screen capturing/recording software on desktop
>not renting DVD/VHS and burning/recording/digitizing it
>not having burner/secondary phone exclusively for *ill* obtained APKs
>not always walking around with a butt plug to constantly massage your prostate
Kys

>mfw all the ratings in the play store go up because people can't give it a poor rating because it doesn't work right on their broken custom ROM.

>>60469049
>ban india/third world countries from leaving reviews
>quality of reviews shoots up

How do we bypass this /g/?

>>60469102
By not using it

>>60469102
Apple iPhone doesn't have this problem

>>60469102
We kill the (((Googles)))

>>60466687
u nigga lol haha lmao brb jk fag

>>60470495
You already can't access some apps with jailbroken iPhones anymore

>>60466496
>Netflix and all other major apps
>all other major apps
???

>>60466496
The problem I have with this is that people using perfectly good devices that haven't received official updates in months may get blocked from installing apps because they're not passing this arbitrary "safety net".

>>60466837
they are trying to lock down your device. they work for the merchantery. the nosed man

I had my Pixel rooted before and was pretty upset about not being able to play Pokemon Go. Not enough to unroot that is. But seeing that they will do this across many apps made me install magisk. It was worth it. Thanks Netflix!

>>60466521
this, only dumb normies spend time/money on smartphones

>netflix
>not torrenting
The fuck is wrong with you?

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>>60466496
Pajeets BTFO!
Poorfags BTFO!
Brown & balck people BTFO!
Pirates BTFO!

Based Google just pissed off 99% of its userbase.

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>>60471618
Do you not have a nose? Are you an anime?

>>60471687

Enjoy your viruses and begging to be included in the kool kids klub that is private trackers.

>>60467260
I believe SafetyNet gets tripped if you do anything to /system or any other read-only partition.

>>60471712
>viruses
If you're not a dumbass, this is a non-issue.
>begging
See above.

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>>60466496
>Netflix doesn't work
>PopcornTime does (probably)
Torrent trackers may be "disappearing" left and right but there will always be a way to torrent movies and tv.

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>>60471712
>torrenting
>viruses

Safetynet is already spoofable on microg,

>>60467682
my nigga

Magisk bypasses CTS SafteyNet

problem solved

>>60466496

don't use google products

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>>60466496
snapchat and pokemon go pulled this aswell, its relatively easy to get around if you have system root (different than root, new version of SuperSU has it tho)
>magisk
>root switch
you just gotta pass the SafetyNet test

>>60474014
How does magisk work? Does it act like SuperSU ? I can install it but I can't install the safety net fix

>>60466496
>root phone
>torrent the TV shows on your desktop for free and put them on phones sd card
>watch TV shows for free with rooted phone
I think I found a loophole

>>60466643
>>60466546

Its an arms race and the user will always have final word on their device.

>>60468126

I use plex for that.

I never watch netflix anymore anyways I should just cancel and keep pirating.

>>60466496
systemless root makes it undetectable

>>60466496
>on rooted devices
>android killed

yeah that less than 1% of the user base is really gonna kill android

>>60469102
systemless root makes root undetectable and in netflix's case you don't even need to bypass anything. Netflix is only removed from the playstore if you're rooted and still can be easily downloaded elsewhere. OP didn't even read the article he posted.

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>>60466888

>>60471618
4u

meh

my bank's software doesnt work on rooted devices and i'd rather have access to that than 'muh freedoms'

>>60471702
I'm just worried that .apk's of stuff not available on my region I installed and spent money on will not work anymore.

>>60467370
this

men don't compromise their beliefs for the sake of a woman

I haven't rooted since fucking KitKat.
Who gives a shit.

>>60466496
>using netflix on a tiny phone screen
Literally why?

>>60475154
Nice blog

>Netflix and all other major apps are not going to work on rooted Android devices anymore.

How is this even news? Apps like Chimpokoman Yo have checked for /sbin/su for ages (and it's always been a small matter of renaming that /sbin/hiddensu or something).

>>60466546
Exactly.

>>60466643
>scanned by their new Google Play Protect service
The worst case this becomes a matter of being forced to just rely on F-Droid's appstore.

Honestly, this isn't such a bad thing. Google Pray Services are already praying on people to the degree where many are or are considering dropping it. Further crap from Google will just push more people into rooting their phones and removing the google infestation.

>>60466867
>>60466872
Exactly.

>>60466496
If you have root you can just tell the app you don't have it. Problem solved

>>60475564
Apps that don't take advantage of the play services api are depreciated.

>>60474284
bullshit
just look what happened to iOS

>>60467288
>is he serious about standing up for his principles
yes, I know it's shocking to see anyone do this, especially in burgerland

>implying Googlel's endgame for Android is not consolidating it under a much more locked down platform
>expecting an ad company to keep putting out an OS that makes it easier to block ads and have other control of your device that takes away from their profit
BIGmeme

>>60466496
This is stupid, if I spend up to 350-450$ on an unlocked device I should be able to use whatever software I want to on it, and do whatever I may want to do to said device.

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>>60466867
>>60466643
>>60466872
>>60466895
Wouldn't apps depending on this service try to shutdown if the service is disabled?

>>60466803
>STALLMAN WAS RIGHT AGAIN
stallman's always been 100% right about literally everything

the only reason people disagree is because he's a weird hairy autist and it's easier to just dismiss him as an old hippie than admit that the system is fucked

So I can't root my phone because LG-bootloop.
I disabled GSF and pretty much everything Google. The only difference is before my phone stuck in a bootloop I had a exclamation mark next to Wifi icon meaning it has no connection to Google servers.
After I had it repaired under warranty I disabled every Google app but there's no exclamation mark and apps that depend on GSF seem to be working.
What did (((they))) do to my phone?

>>60478230
>eats stuff off his foot during lecture

Just buy movies on dvd how fucking hard is it. You get the whole ritual experience of unwrapping it from packaging and inserting it into a player no buffering and you get to furnish bookshelves to boot. Netflix is for cucks.

>>60478239
>DVD
What year is it, 2005?

>>60478239
Better yet, rip discs from local libraries, rentals, friends.

>>60478238
exactly

Why would anyone use Netflix on their phone? Who the fuck likes to see a movie/show on a 6 inch screen at best?

>>60478261
Ok go and buy a 4k uktra hd bluray then autist or use your fucking brain to decipher that dvd is the same damn concept because you obviousoy want the ultra hd one but dont want to sound gay by asking your cat if you want to watch a 4k ultra hd bluray tonight.

>>60478278
I used to watch movies on a 2" screen, a 6" screen would have been spoiling myself.

>>60478278
screen size is a scam, they keep coming out with bigger ones and tell you to sit farther and farther away

just put your little 6 inch screen right up to your face and it's exactly as good looking as your 80" meme TV, assuming both are the same resolution

>>60478309
Something a homeless person would say

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>>60478286
>I use the wrong words on purpose and expect you to know that

>>60478315
fine, have it your way. enjoy lugging your theater sized TV up to your apartment, just to watch it with a pair of binoculars from across the street then

meanwhile I'll be enjoying the exact same HD content on a screen I can carry around in my fanny pack

>>60478309
>being this retard
I'm talking about the fact of watching content on such a damn little screen, not about quality or resolution.

>>60478323
Go ahead be that guy that has no friends to ask of they want to watch a 4k ultra hd bluray with at his place or be a fucking man who has friends and changes adapts the dvd acronym to the modern world and if it makes it any easier for your mind go ahead and refer it as digital video discs to your cat

>>60478335
Think about it. The further away you sit from your TV, the smaller it gets. Looking at your phone up close is like looking at a TV on the wall across the room.

>>60478333
which is perfectly fine out west or in europe where people arent going to assume youre homeless since youre just backpacking for a year

>>60478350
I just ask if they want to watch movies

>>60478335
>not about quality or resolution
what other fact is there, other than quality and resolution? It's not that hard to hold a phone up, and you can get way better sound quality with a good pair of headphones attached to your phone than you would from sitting on your couch in a different timezone than your retardedly huge TV

>>60478364
Perfect

>>60478267
most burners wont even allow you to rip. I found that out when i couldnt with a nec from 2006 but the oem dvd rom from a 2001 gateway could

>>60474284
Intel ME

>>60478385
How does your anecdotal experience with two drives and a 50% success rate prove most drives can't?

>>60466643
Get a cheap phone from china (non export version)
There will be no google framework installed (but you won't be able to dl from play store either)

>>60467682
Except modem and baseband is backdoored, and the phone won't function without proprietary drivers.

>all this autism

lol u gays

>>60478350
fucking hell, next level salty

>>60466496

Except we already have a way around SafetyNet...

>>60467743

It's simpler than that. Just use Magisk.

>>60467260

Why wouldn't you leave your phone rooted? You wouldn't use a desktop or laptop without administrative privileges, why would you do the same with a phone or tablet?

>>60466803
>"If you don't use our OS, you can't use our services."
>"wtf thats theft I was on season 2 of got gimme netflix back stallman was right"

>>60468126
>Oh no, I can't pay $15 a month to download and watch basically the same set of movies I've already been watching for the past year.

Just torrent.

>>60466643
Google Play "Protect" service?

What is this protecting, and from who?

>>60466537
>lets give money just to add our IP address to their lists they'll never sell to advertisers.

>>60478935
Braindead average people to pants on head retardation levels of people mainly. The appstore already has its own malware checker so that nothing can be typically uploaded through the GPS without it being checked.

This extra service basically forces the device to undergo its own additional security to prevent people from doing anything outside the normal realm of using the device the way its intended. As you can expect this is going to be a problem for the poweruser crowd and probably the app piracy crowd (if that even exists anymore)

Its Google's way of being an over-protective parent.

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>>60475564
>Google Pray Services are already praying on people
I know you're trying to be clever but its"prey" and "preying"
>yes im fuckin triggered

>actually interesting and potentially useful threads tend to die after a few posts or so
>threads revolving around FUD, bait, and consumerism flourish and proliferate 24/7

t-thanks neo-/g/

>>60479004
There's no halal Google Pray services for muslims preinstalled on every Android phone yet?

>>60467229
This trips safetynet anyway. Doesn't matter if you re-root. Only solution is to factory restore with a locked bootloader

>>60468393
Quite a bad store imo, I use it though mostly but it can't find stuff often

>>60466496
pretty happy I went with windows phone rn

>>60466496
isn't the point of having a rooted phone to use an alternative application store ?

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>>60467295
>the russians hacked paper ballots
fuck it i dont care anymore

>>60466496
Good

>what is magisk?

>>60480399
its magic you dum fuggg

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>>60466496
>makes content less accessible, pushes DRM
I.. it's not like there is a free alternative to watching things on netflix or anything

>>60480482
this, i never understood how netflix managed to sell access to stuff anybody can download fo free
are all their customers over 50 ?

>>60480521
moralfags are vulnerable to shaming.

Jokes on them I've got an s6 active and can't root it anyway

>>60466837
Holy fucking... I reseted my phone 8 times because of adwares, even when I had malwarebytes.

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>>60466936
>being gay

>>60466496
Funny how it took 30 years of progress for standards to see the light of day so there can be no monopoly, and it took 8 years smartphones to kill all of that.

>>60466496
Jokes on them, I torrent all my shit and watch on a fucking TV, not a 5 inch phone display.

Dumb question: why bother with systemless root and other hoops? Is there no way to spoof the safetynet API?

Some anon apparently said it sends a packet to Google and receives a boolean back. I understand if they use some really obscure obfuscated and encrypted method to generate the packet spoofing that would be impractical, but what about intercepting the return, discarding it, and substituting with a true value every time? You have root access to the device, it should be trivial to intercept and modify network packets before they reach any other app or service.

>>60466988
SafetyNet != device certification.

You can have a phone that passes SafetyNet checks, yet still says that your device is not certified.

>>60478371
>>60478354
Holding your phone up to your face is fucking annoying though. If I want to relax and watch some show that's the last thing I want to be doing.

>>60467229
During the 3 years without gapps I have encountered only 2 apps that refused to work. One was mock location(could work with microg but eh) and the other was some game, I don't remember. What "majority" are you talking about.

>>60466496
Google didn't kill rooting. Many apps were doing this already to begin with. You can try root hiding but good luck. I have to unroot > sign into Snapchat > reroot on my phone.

>>60466496
Install Magisk you stupid nigger

>>60481922
this

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>>60467295

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Magisk passes SafetyNet

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>>60471618
The goyim knows, SHOOT HIM

>>60478831
There's a difference between having administrative privileges even a click away than being rooted.
Brows the internet rooted, hotshot, see what happens

>>60482076
Nothing ever happened since 2013. I even disabled the prompt to use root functions.

>>60466496
>rooting
lol

>>60471648
>this, only retarded normies use phones instead of carrier pigeons

>>60466496
What if I do actually want to get viruses on my phone ? It's my phone, I paid for it, I can do anything i want with it, because it's mine. So google is limiting my rights to my propety. That's kinda illegal isn't it ?

>>60466496
lol who gives a shit
dont use android
or if u do, dont use faggot apps
seems simple bud

>>60467273
> implying indians will do anything against big tech

>netflix blocks rooted devices
>piracy goes up

only hurting themselvs

>>60481611
>Implying you couldn't just get the apk from *insert apk hosting site* and use your funky rootcloak/device check blocker/l33t safetynet crack like usual

>>60466496
>Netflix and all other major apps
I don't even use these. LOL

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>>60466496
Looks like they're pulling an Apple. Glad I ditched Jewgle services and installed Lineage OS with FDroid.

>>60484323
The kind of people who root their phones are usually the kind of people to consider privacy.

Conversely, the kind of people who already pay for something they could pirate for free because it's more convenient are usually the kind of people who wouldn't bother rooting.

>tfw root phone just to gut it of all that "major app" cancer anyway
>just use it like a literal phone with a web browser and k9

dont care

>>60466496
Only high iq people should root their device, if you'r edumb enough to use google services you should consider killing yourself, you're what is wrong with our society.

Doesn't the Amazon store have Netflix?

>>60466887
>tries to block rooted phones
tfty

>>60466643
but i just side loaded Netflix into my moto x 2013 running lineage ever though it says it wasn't supported.

works fine.

>>60467682
>F-Droid

Barely any apps on there.

>>60466496
*blocks your path*

>>60466643
>Sideload application because Google is a cunt and won't let it be on the store
>Google scans it against the Play Store anyways
>Deletes it because it's not on the Play Store
Maybe this'll be the incentive I need to ditch my smartphone

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>>60478350
You, sir, are retarded

>>60478274
Maybe eating stuff off your feet is the right thing to do.

>>60489611
Or maybe someone doing something doesn't negate what they say on something unrelated.

>>60480521
Morals and ease of access; people share their subscriptions with family and friends, then get used to using it and just adapt Netflix as part of every day life that they can't imagine being without.

>>60489104
It's called repositories, anon

>>60490658
Illegal piracy repos with the potential for malware?