Why do people insist on using whatsapp instead of texting?

>>60457752
I don't think unlimited texting plans are as ubiquitous in yurop

>>60457752
why do you insist on being autistic
it's where the bitches at

>>60457773
Not in first world countries

>>60457783
Everybody uses it in Canada, faggot

>>60457800
Canada has unlimited texting. Are canadians just retarded ?

>>60457800
I never even heard of it until people started talking about it on /g/. Hell, I don't even know anyone who knows what it is. I'm in the States though.

>>60457800
Whatsapp is better for group chats

more features
read/deliver receipts

no implications sending messages internationally

desktop program is nice too

>>60457752
do not try to make sense of normalfag's decisions

it will drive you insane

>>60457814
It's just a better interface, with more features (including groups, which are popular). Why are you such a luddite?

>>60457752
Texting costs money.

>>60457752
Less latency.
Receipts.
"Free".

>>60458023
>less latency
Calling bullshit

t: whatsapp user

>>60457752
my dick. in her asshole. pls

>>60457817
Merchant here. Everyone uses it all the time here in Israel and I remember back when I lived in America tons of people in the Jewish community would download it so they could talk to friends and family in Israel.

>>60458004
So does a phone, WiFi, and data

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>normalfags in my CE classes try to make me use it for some group shit
>tell them to fuck off
>they go crying to the professor like it's middle school
>he tells them to fuck off in politically correct speak
And that's how I secured another 4 years of virginity.

>>60458138
So it's for third worlders and those who want to keep in touch with the third world?

>>60457800
Leaf here, this is completely untrue.

>>60457800
>canada
>first world

Pick one

>>60458172
I am proud of you anon

>>60458286
I wonder where you live, probably a pajeet from the shitting fields.

Chat clients do not require a SIM card.

>>60458271
You're probably a friendless autistic neet though. WTF do you know about anything social?

>>60457752
Its free you stupid motherfucker

>>60458286
https://medium.com/@Chris_arnade/usa-a-third-world-county-in-the-making-14064ea5c534

Quiet fatty, white first worlders are talking

>>60458150
So we agree then

>>60458400
>>60458366
So WhatsApp users are just poorfags that can't even afford cellular service? kek

>>60458172
Congratulations, we're all gonna make it.

in other countries cell service is expensive and extremely unreliable. i have cousins who have android phones and strictly use wifi and whatsapp to communicate with other people (not in the us)

>>60457752
If you're not using whatsapp for international calls/texts you're doing it wrong

>>60457752
Iwhy would someone want to use a messaging app with modern features when they could communicate with antiquated decades old SMS? Its a mystery OP

I understand why SMS is harmful.
What I don't understand is why WhatsApp makes any sense as a replacement, since it's tied to a carrier-provided phone number to function.

SMS sucks.

I don't know. Ask my family.

Ye screw those poorfags for non unlimited plans.

SMS ain't properly encrypted.

>>60458187
Mostly. I use WhatsApp to communicate with my family in the ME

Fascist governments like Australia are now recording all your mobile acitivity and metadata.
Whatsapp circumvents that.
As does Facebook Messenger and iMessage.

>>60458479
>cell service expensive and unreliable
>internet access somehow cheap and ubiquitous

>>60458576
>antiquated decades old SMS
>>60458697
>SMS sucks.
>>60458614
>I understand why SMS is harmful.

neo-/g/ these days

>>60457752
SMS is limited, slow, not encrypted, costs more...
It's inferior in pretty much every way.
Now I'm not saying Whatsapp is ideal, far from it. I'd prefer to use something fully open source that isn't owned by fucking Facebook. But it's still better than SMS.

>>60458084
Nope. Whatsapp messages usually get delivered way faster. SMS always has a 2-3 sec delay.

>>60459556
Enjoy being spied on, faggot.

>>60459480
>implying Fecesbook doesn't record all his activity and metadata
>implying government didn't record activity and metadata secretly before

>>60459576
>SMS hasn't changed a bit over 20 years or so
>SMS was the hot shit 20 years ago
>suddenly SMS is literally shit now
>even though it didn't change

dats neo-/g/ logick right there

>>60459576
>Facebook owns Whatsapp
>he thinks he isn't spied on when using it

>>60457752
Who is this semen demon? I mean the girl.

>>60459610
It's shit now, because we have many better alternatives that we didn't 20 years ago.
And hopefully 20 years from now we won't use Whatsapp anymore and we'll call it shit.

>>60458614
>SMS considered harmful

wew lad

>>60457752
I imagine it's for retarded reasons

>>60457752
It's imessage for lagdroid

>>60459637
even AIM was better than SMS

I have a theory
In Bulgaria, reception is complete shit inside commieblocks, so using a messaging service that uses your home internet is much more advantageous, especially when 4g plans are really cheap.
This probably applies to most of Europe as well.

>>60458172
that's 4 years closer to wizardhood, good job anon!

What about viber. In my country, noone uses whatsapp, viber is the go to messaging app. (Hungary)

>>60457752
Free calls and texts without having to deal with a million SPESHAL OFFER notifications from the phone company.

Also groups and easier pictures, sound recordings, linking, etc

>>60457752
telegram is better

im using whatsapp to talk with my international friends

>>60460079
>shit crypto, which only works for one on one conversations
>no video calls, voice calling just now rolling out
>still relies on your phone number

no, stop shilling for your stupid service

>>60457763
This and even if a phone is out of service (prepay, no minutes) you can still communicate over wifi.

>>60459767
>This probably applies to most of Europe as well.
It certainly does not.

It's pretty obvious why whatsapp is so popular though. Until a few years ago people generally had to pay for each SMS they sent. This is how whatsapp/viber etc became popular in the first place. Because of this, today they have the benefit a large user base, and people have gotten so used to the advantages of the apps that there's no reason for them to go back to regular texting.

>>60459767
I have a better theory, related to an experience with my sister and a few other people.
I asked them what the deal was with Whatsapp, and they told me "it's free messages". I asked them if it was really free, and they went "yes, but you need to be connected to the internet".
So I replied "so it's e-mails".
Some of them didn't have a comeback. Others went one further with something along the lines of "yes but it's more... instantaneous... and it's easier to use?"
So I said "I see, so it's more like a chat?"
And that was that, basically. I even chatted with my sister using Hangouts years before Whatsapp was a thing, and she didn't realize it was "free messages".

I just think Whatsapp had the right mix of publicity, ease of use and whatever else.

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>using all that junk just to send messages
Get on my level scrubs

>>60460144
>mix of publicity, ease of use and whatever else.
Just like every social media that became popular.

>>60459556
Or you being a retarded luddite that doesn't understand progress.

You're akin to 90s people saying "nobody is going to need more than 512MB of ram" or "the Internet is just a toy".

Stay close minded you meat faced cretin, but please leave /g/ if you can't even grasp the core idea of what technology is.

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>>60458172
Well done anon, soon you will reap your rewards

>>60460144
>I just think Whatsapp had the right mix of publicity, ease of use and whatever else.

Yeah it's nothing special at all. Right time, right place.
But they do have a solid product from a technical point of view, it just werks.
Compare that to Wire which is better on paper, but in practice it's still a bit buggy.
The one thing that I dislike about Whatsapp is how much it relies on your phone (even when using the web app), but I guess this makes it more idiotproof for normies.

>>60457763
Eurobong here. Unlimited texting is included in most plans but a lot of people use prepaid instead because it's cheaper and basically has all or more of the same features as a low-end phone plan. Some of the prepaid options can bump the data to 5GB for around 8-10€ per month so it's cheaper to use whatsapp or Viber for texting or calling.

I'm third worlder, my mom lives 1500km from me and we never used WhatsApp to communicate. I also never had to use it to communicate with anyone. Heck I never seen how does this app looks like.

My idiotic friend uses it to text with his girlfriend, even though they have unlimited texts.

In 3rd world country such as Poland we have unlimited texts, minutes and even data. I have 100gb allowance a month a d I don't pay anything for it.

We also don't have muslims here

>>60460220
Here in Poland prepaids offers more while being 2-3 times cheaper than contract. There is absolutely no reason for contract here.

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>>60460235
>We also don't have muslims here
Can i live in your country?
t. german

>>60457752
sms for anything besides ascii is garbage and mms is not an improvement. Plus contacting everyone when your phone number changes is 90s problem

>>60457752
Both texting and WhatsApp are retarded.

Texting:
- unencrypted
- susceptible to MITM interception by anyone with $200 worth of gear

WhatsApp:
- proprietary and therefore complete garbage
- data-mined by Facebook outside of the EU

Anyone with an IQ above 50 would not use either.

>>60460250
Sure, we actually don't hate average German families and people as we know and understand you guys.

You can rent or buy a flat in Krakow or Wroclaw it's very popular since Germany is being invaded, german people are buying out flats here like a maniacs.

And about Muslims. Our premier just stated we won't accept any Muslim immigrants here.

>>60457752
because android users are poorfags

>>60460235
>We also don't have muslims here

Poland stronk XDDD

Why does polish vermin always have to spill their inferiority complex anywhere they write. Protip, you don't have Muslims because nobody, not even sub-poor tribal fourth worlders want to live there.

Also fuck off to /pol/

>>60460121
Still better than using whatsapp.

>>60460270
I guess you use post? Yeah that's best way to quickly communicate

>>60460288
Email with PGP
XMPP with OTP
Ricochet
BitMessage

>>60460297
*OTR

>>60460194
>"nobody is going to need more than 512MB of ram"
Nobody (of importance) ever said that you know. The most famous quote is one where Bill Gates allegedly said that nobody ever needs more than 640kB of RAM, much earlier than the 90s of course. However, he didn't even say that, what he said was actually the quite opposite of that because he didn't feel the IBM computers had enough memory to be future proof at the time.
>"the Internet is just a toy"
This is also an exaggeration of concerns that weren't as invalid as we might think today. Large networks have been used by governments and industries since the 60s, and obviously nobody thought this was a toy. The world wide web is what was seen as a toy, and this website alone justifies their concern to some extent.

>convinced gf to use signal instead of WhatsApp

>fast foward 6 months, we break up

Back to 0 signal contacts I guess..

>>60460281
Because we know it hurts you first worlders. Your countries are plagued by this rubbish yet you claim to be superior. You feed them and let rape your woman. They steal, beat people up, rape yet you try to justify their behaviour and you can't even say out loud they are bad. Well even more it's not allowed because saying such fact would be hate speech. Funny weak leftist shits. First world country hahaha

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>>60460235
>unlimited data
>3rd world

>>60460279
Poland will be invaded by France and Germany in the near future. Brace yourself.

>>60457752

I use whatsapp all the time. You can send better quality media to peeps through it than shitty SMS

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>tfw unlimited data is 199€ / month on a 24 month contract in Germany

>>60460420
>the free market will regulate itself

>>60458084

MMS has around 30sec delivery time for single picture last time I checked.

>>60460360
Already assuming I'm a leftie and that I'm pro mass importing hordes of uncivilised people?

Here's a hard reality check for you: you're part of the problem. There's more Poles in UK or Norway than any other ethnicity. You don't learn languages or customs, you create Polish ghettos, you don't adapt, you commit crimes on a massive scale.

>some Polish fag arguing that it's because the people that mostly left his country came from poor/pathological regions/cities/villages

Guess what, so go the arguments of Syrian apologists.

But hey, there's always a Polish crusader on every *chan, every discussion board, always with the same bs talk like you're the last bastion of Europe [insert here some incomprehensible mumbling about Katyn or Sobieski 400 years ago]. And yet you're considered the central joke of Europe. Even Orban is making fun of you.

>>60459610
Try using a 20 year old PC for a while and just try to tell me it isn't shit compared to alternatives.
Then look up what "progress" is.

>>60457868
>read/deliver receipts
>SMS have both of them

this is average /g/ user

>>60460411
Romania has better internet than most first world countries, almost better than all of them

>>60457752
Because texting is usually outrageously expensive, Fucking telcos

>>60460502
Comparing polacks who are happy to work like a slaves in worst jobs for minimal wage and no overtimes to muslims who demands money cars and houses for nothing. LOL.

Yes polacks are a plague as well I agree but it's totally different thing.

>>60457752
Normies don't fucking understand how it works.

To them, it's just an icon on their phone, they press it, and they can chat. The fact they pretty much configure themselves using your phone number as a reference doesn't help, it further instills the idea that "it's the same thing", disregardingthe fact it uses different protocols, medium, servers, services, and most importantly, it's handled by entirely diferent companies.

Otherwise, GSM, SMS and email are enough for practically everything. Technically they're just protocols you use to send data, and the nature of that data as well as the GUI of the data sending software are entirely different things.

We're just lacking "sexy" GSM, SMS and email apps these days for normies to use them. Still, it's not that hard to convince people that deep down, those antique communication protocols remain the most reliable and widely supported, and that in exceptional situations, cases of emergency, or sensitive subjects, they're the ones you should be using.

In the meantime, I dread the day people will just stop talking to each other beacuse they're so spread other a hundred different services that communicating with each other will prove challenging.

>>60460749
Email is obviously slower than chat protocols (google it if you are too stupid to know this) and SMS only supports ascii and 160 symbols. There's an inherent difference between them and chat protocols such as XMPP. And what do you even mean by GSM? You need a lot more than a GUI to turn GSM into something that can be used for texting and chatting.

>>60457752
If you don't like whatsapp fine, but stop defending SMS. It's obsolete and anything is better than it.

I hate normies so fucking much
I wish they were never allowed into tech

>>60457752
Because SMS is old and outdated technology and Whatsapp is vastly superior, it's only Americans that are tech illiterate third worlders who still uses SMS because so many people use iPhones and throw a hissy fit if they text someone with "green bubbles"

>>60460749
>In the meantime, I dread the day people will just stop talking to each other beacuse they're so spread other a hundred different services that communicating with each other will prove challenging.
There are already fuckloads of communication programs, social entropy or whatever you want to call it keeps communities using only a few of them.

>>60460420
>Just got a text from my carrier asking if I want to upgrade from 50GB data a month for €45 a month to 100GB data a month for €50 a month
Feels good being Scandinavian

>>60460079
>>60460121
Wire is better

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>>60460197
I will never understand how involuntary or voluntary abstinence is supposed to make you a wizard

>>60461328
normies like yourself will never understand

>>60461328
Those who squandered their lives on this planet in the mundane and the hedonic will never understand.

>>60457752
>Texting = $$$$
>Data = $

Line master race reporting in.

>>60460247
>>60460220
your prepaid plans dont have unlimited text/data?

>>60457752
If you could text for free within your state, but had to pay to text people in other states, would you text or use something else? I'm assuming you're from the USA because it's usually Americans that ask this question.

>>60461191
>accepting GB limits
>not boycotting the telecoms
>not cutting all subscriptions and letting people call you instead

Limited GB is literally cancer

>>60461697
They offer unlimited data but I rarely use more than 50GB a month so I'll upgrade to unlimited by the time I actually need more than 100GB.

>>60461459
so which are you, thai or jap?

>>60459556
You can even send gif or webm. Sms will never get updated

>>60457800
Novascotiafag reporting in. This just isn't true. Everyone here uses messenger groups and data desu
>>60457814
yes

>>60457752
So i can roast mans in the group chat.

Cunt.

>>60460144
Hangouts is garbage though

>>60461780
I thought thais were all viber fags

>>60457752
Whatsapp has short voice messages, doesn't compress images under 5MB, can shoot video, (debatable) end to end encryption, SMS has been obsolete for the last 7 years. The only SMS I receive are paypal 2factor codes and credit card notices from the bank.
Here in my country newer prepaid plans don't even include SMS cause nobody ever uses them

>>60460121
One word: stickers!

>>60457752
roasties think they can be whores and send nudes to a bunch of people and not have them posted online because it asks Android nicely to not allow screenshots

Nothing a little xposed can't fix

>>60457752
The only thing SMS sucks with is sending video and picture files. It's slow.

I believe in the near future companies will turn to using data instead for their calling and messaging. But since it will cost them money to do all that, I don't think we will see change until 5G and fiber connections is everywhere.

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I don't know anyone who uses whatsapp.

Even one of my friends who is permanently buried in her phone, always checking facebook/tumblr/snapchat has never used it.

>>60461872
Nova Scotia reps here

>>60462174
Hello? In which kind of cave do you live?

>>60462204
my bud
where you to

>>60457752
Why do people insist on texting instead of whatsapp?

>>60461504
Pay as you go doesn't have free texting until you add £15 a month for a lot of providers, whereas you can get unlimited texts for as little as £6 a month on contract

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Girls used to send me pictures and videos of their vagina on whatsapp, but now all the whores moved to snapchat. I don't use sc because it's the worst thing ever created by mankind.

The problem with all modern communication platforms and social media is that it's becoming easier for dumb bitches to use and has built in privacy features which are much trickier to get around (and I simply can't be bothered to update my script kiddy knowledge from the mid-00s to spy on women using current technology).

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I use Telegram like all the cool kids do.

>>60460648

Eastern Europeans are literally European Mexicans

t. Another Eastern Europoor.

Because unlimited text plans are not available in every place. And this is mainly because of services like whatsapp. When there's a large installed userbase is hard to change.

>>60462289
>unlimited texts for as little as £6 a month
Let's say you send 1000 texts / month, with an average length of 80 characters
That's 80000 bytes.
Let's be generous and add 20% metadata overhead. 96000 bytes.

96000 Byte = 0.000096 Gigabyte
6 GBP/0.000096 Gigabyte =

62500 GBP per Gigabyte

>>60460420
That's pretty expensive. You can get 30GB for £18 a month or unlimited for £24 and you can make calls, texts, and use data in like 50 first world countries and you don't have to pay extra. It all comes out of your normal allowance.

>>60462379
>unlimited for £24
Is it truly unlimited?
Meaning you can download 100 TB with full LTE speed?

>>60462330
whats your point?

>>60462395
Providers are getting filthy rich with SMS

>>60462391
As far as I know, in the UK they can't cap your speeds so theoretically, you could.
I could be wrong though.

>>60462391
disregard
>>60462455

It's actually sold as "All-you-can-eat" data because it does have a cap and the telephone and communications regulator didn't like it when it was called "Unlimited"

The cap is 1000GB a month. The phone company argues that this is the absolute most someone could use in a month on a phone. The upside is that they never restrict your speeds.

>>60457800
I havent even heard a single person talk about Whatsapp except for an aspie kid in HS who didnt have a phone.

>>60461014
>Email is obviously slower than chat protocols (google it if you are too stupid to know this)
Only if your server sends emails in batches or holds them because of over-resiliency. A modern email server sends them at the speed of light. Update your fucking facts.

>and SMS only supports ascii and 160 symbols.
I can send UTF-8 SMS that can be way longer than 160 bytes, and longer than I need them to be. Shit has evolved a long time ago, you can send linked SMS using any character sets. Plus originally, it's not ASCII, but cultural variants of GSM 03.38, which excludes non-typable ASCII characters and adds some more chars usually found in extended ASCII.

>There's an inherent difference between them and chat protocols such as XMPP.
Back then when computers were slow and bandwidth limited, yes. Today, all those lmitations belong to the past.

>And what do you even mean by GSM? You need a lot more than a GUI to turn GSM into something that can be used for texting and chatting.
GSM by itself was originally designed for, and only supported, voice: temporal multiplexing, commuted networks, stream cipher, lossy communication... and SMS itself is a kind of "data over GSM" technology.

So no, email, SMS and GSM are enough. They're just pipes you send data into, and whose design characteristics have been rendered pointless by technological progress: email don't get lost anymore, and GSM calls always succeed, what more do you need?

>>60461328
Of course you don't.

>>60457763
unlimited texting has been a thing since 2005 or something.
Back then, the cost was $20 / month, so you had to send a lot of texts in order to get a discount, but since then, the price has dropped over the years.
I am using a cheap plan because I have wifi everywhere I go, but my plan is 5 hours of calls, 1gb of data and unlimited texting.
I pay $10 / month.
I have free roaming in EU.

Price has nothing to do with why people prefer whatsapp.

Because we like using new technologies

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we live in 21st century op. we use whatsapp for groups, seeing if the other person is typing, easily sending and sharing videos.
i literally have a group for our C development team and another general group at my work. i had another group when i used to play volleyball.
it is like a discord for outside activities.

Much faster than SMS and gives the sense that a person is right there on the other end giving you their attention via their online status and immediate read receipts. Plus group chats because people make group chats for absolutely everything nowadays. Very few group chats turn out not to be cancerous.

Why use anything other than facebook for chat? What's the point of viber, whatsapp, telegram? Some carriers even give 0.facebook access. You can share as many videos, links and stuff you want. There's the calling and videocalling. Why are you stupid?

>>60458393
everyone I know uses Messenger, what's the point of using WhatsApp if no one's on it. the only person in Canada that I know that uses WhatsApp is my mom when she goes on trips

>there are people on /g/ who don't use whatsapp
it's like you don't want to slay the pusspuss

>>60461328
>Voluntary
Probably something along the lines of having discipline and not being susceptible to social influence. Or socially/sexually retarded. I don't know.
>Involuntary
You're just not doing something right.

>>60463015
You'd need a facebook account plus it's not encrypted, or not for group chats.

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>having friends / contacts
>needing a messaging app

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>>60464039
this

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>>60457752
Whatsapp is more convenient and faster.

>>60463630
WhatsApp isnt even for pusspuss.

Its for sending messages. I mean its just easier for everyone..

>>60460197
Is it true if you don't have sex for a while you regain your virginity?

>>60462793
>Price has nothing to do with why people prefer whatsapp.
Yes, it does you fucking dunce. We pay 20 cents per day for unlimited whatsapp messages while texting, which was outdated in 1998, costs much more, fucking nigger.

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My family uses it a lot down in Jamaica.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/lead-stories/20170106/whatsapp-most-popular-social-media-app-among-jamaican-diaspora

People want to see the status of their message. Whether it delivered, in some cases if it was read also. That's besides from sending photos and videos. These days, texting means iMessage/WhatsApp. SMS is still useful and will be around as an old reliable kinda thing though, it has its uses and it won't go away.

>>60457752
Cause I don't have to struggle to find signal in my house in the middle of nowhere, can just use my WiFi instead and sending pictures usually costs a lot over SMS and never seems to work

>>60460079
Telegram is 100% broken. The creator violated the Number One Golden Rule of Cryptography: Don't Roll Your Own Crypto. He's not a cryptographer, and he's said some shit on twitter in the past that basically shows that he has no idea what he's talking about. The only reason the NSA hasn't requested his keys is that they don't need to.

Everyone I know prefers to use the facebook messenger. I like it better than texts, because then I can know when the other person actually reads the message

>>60462206
WhatsApp's a localized thing. There are areas where everyone uses it and areas where nobody even knows what it is. He simply lives in the latter.

>>60462267
No additional app nor data required, free with the cellular service I'd have anyway, can turn off my data and still communicate

>>60463015
I'm not going to create a social networking account to talk to people when we both already have SMS

>>60463630
>nobody in the area uses WhatsApp
>somehow if I start using it, I'll be drowning in pussy
Yeah, that makes total sense.

>>60457752
>groups
>can send images, videos and small voice records
>free calls

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>>60465822
No, once it's gone it's gone

>>60457752
I use it to send pictures. Texting pictures or videos the regular way results in your carrier raping the quality so hard that sometimes you can't even recognize it on the other end. And this is in the USA.

>>60465822
>t.roastie

>>60457800
Not where I live, it's just straight texting and snapchat here.

>>60457752
i don't know of a single person using whatsapp

>>60461504
They do by default. I top up for like 10gbp/12euro for 3 months where I got free unlimited data, free texts and minutes in network and still got all the money I topped. 1 minute to different network costs here like 7 cents or 6 pences