Did it even have a chance?

Yes. I was to guess which one would have won in 2005 I would have said HD-DVD. It was the cheaper of the two and in general the cheaper technology wins.

HD-DVD ended up losing because Sony was very aggressive with pricing by putting it into the PS3, Toshiba could have been aggressive with the price right from the start, taking advantage of the fact that HD-DVD was a cheaper to manufacter technology, but they waited till Blu-ray was already winning to really push the price down, and by that point Sony got Warner Brothers, Wal-Mart and Blockbuster to go exclusively Blu-ray and then it was over for them.

Yes, until Sony woke up.

Also, bundling BR playback ability with a console was no small stroke of marketing genius, showing just how tragically companies underestimate the appeal of convenience.

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Not even remotely

2 hours of RAW lossless uncompressed 10-bit 1080p24fps video is about 1,000GB or 1TB. Some movies are even longer than 2 hours.

What people fail to understand is that even a blu-ray disc is a transcode of the movie, not 100% lossless video.

HD DVD used H264 probably using the ultrafast preset so it would have given people yify quality.

>>60452727
>>60452788
>Lose millions on PS3s go push blu-ray
>Lose the entire first half of the 7th generation because of the PS3's high cost to secure a blu-ray win
>70% Of the world doesn't care and keeps using DVD anyway
>By the time blu-ray starts hitting its stride in the first world people are switching to streaming
I wonder if Sony would do it again if they saw what the future held.

worthless format

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>>60452509
I posted this in the last thread for fun, heres some awful powerpoints I did in 2005 for freshman science class talking about bluray vs hddvd. even then it seemed like bluray would win out

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>>60453068
>70% Of the world doesn't care and keeps using DVD anyway
>keeps using DVD anyway

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>>60453174
look at those beasts

>>60453214
>Those late 90s - mid 2000s aesthetics

>>60453214
Is that a ps4 in top left image?

>>60453214
Pretty machines. I wish I could have afforded stuff like this back then, even if it's pointless now.

>>60453572
Yeah those early models were so expensive

>>60453503
Yes. This was before Sony bought exclusive rights to the PS4 from Samsung.

Man it ended that actor's career too, The sopranos guy, he never did anything again after the hddvd commercials.

blue LEDs got cheap.

That was all it took.

>>60452509
Blu ray won because Sony marketed the fuck out of it and shoved it through with PS3 and Taladega Nights. HDDVD was actually way cheaper and the difference in quality and capacity was negligible that it could have won if it had the same kind of backing Sony gave to blu ray.

>>60454184
Devo did ads for Laserdisc back in the day and it never took off. The video is on YouTube, its pretty funny

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nope

as soon as their "incredible" security was destroyed, they lost all cred and died

>>60456281
That screenshot looks nostalgic.

>>60452509
Yes, because everyone hated Sony's forced standards.

Then it got cracked first, and Hollywood all lined up behind Blu-ray.

>>60452949
ah no replies :3 very good.

>>60456461
Wasn't the hd-dvd encryption key the same as the blu-ray one?

Anyway it's all such a humorous event because nobody gave a single fuck about the key except for a few nerds but MPAA had cry about it and got anally gang raped by the entire internet.

In fact I think that if it wasn't for the MPAA we wouldn't have the blu-ray encryption key. Those nerds would have forgotten about it since nobody gave a shit about it.

>>60456535
He's kinda right though.

HD DVD: 15 or 30GB
Blu-ray: 25, 50, or 100GB

Though lossless video can be compressed a lot without losing quality but that varies from source to source.

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No you idiots, the very simple reason blu-ray won was mainly because of 1 thing: PORN

>>60453068
>Lose the entire first half of the 7th generation because of the PS3's high cost to secure a blu-ray win
No, they lost the entire first half of the 7th generation because the PS3 was overshooting the market while the Wii was hitting exactly where the market was. They only started recovering some near the end because Nintendo botched the Wii's second half.

>>60456759
>because Nintendo botched the Wii's second half.
The wii has one of the worst attach rates ever. There's nothing they could do; once every household had one, they couldn't do anything. Nobody was buying extra games for it.

>>60453214
The blue LED lets guests know that you have a blueray player.

It had the advantage of being cheaper to produce so there was potential there. Sony/Blu-Ray won pretty much because of the PS3 which made blu-ray the more widespread of the two.

>>60452949
But yify was extremely popular.

>>60454262
not to mention many blu rays were fucked with in their conversion while hd dvds largely were not, that alone makes me see hd dvd versions of many movies to be superior.

>>60452727
I thought HDDVD was going to fail because it didn't and never could hold as much data a blu-ray

HD-DVD was the superior format, but many factors played into it's demise, so it's hard to find a specific cause.

Like people thinking it would work in regular dvd drives, not having it in the xbox 360 and eat the loss (it would have made a bigger difference than you think), licensing deals, etc. etc.

Despite having less space than bluray I still believe it was the superior format and should have "won" instead of bluray.

it would have stood a better chance had the xbox 360 shipped with an hd-dvd drive

honestly i was pretty surprised when bluray won, i had figured people would stick to hd-dvd due to the familiarity of the dvd brand

>>60460272
since when has something being technically better ever been a major factor in its' survival?
don't forget the world kept using VHS until dvd finally took it out some 30 years later at the start of the new millenium, despite many better formats being available throughout that time

>>60452509
Reminds me of the time they tried shoving Betamax down everyone's throat, but this time they succeeded.

>>60456281
2007 was a good year

>>60456759
Microsoft forced Sony's hand. The PS3 wasn't meant to launched until late '08 or '09. That's why PS3 basically had no games at launch. MS knew they had to jump Sony if they were to have a chance and it worked somehow.

Nintendo got real lucky with the Wii. They hit a market nobody knew was there. Not even Nintendo.

>>60464791
>2007 was a good year
no, 2007 was the worst year, second was 2016

>>60465622
I miss that era of technology.

>>60465622
>Nintendo got real lucky with the Wii. They hit a market nobody knew was there. Not even Nintendo.
which market? the gimmick market?

>>60464791
the iphone and the bazinga show came out during that year, you are very wrong.

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>work in a charity shop
>have some HD-DVDs
>every time someone goes to buy them ask if they have a HD-DVD player to play them
>"Yeah, my DVD is HD"
>mfw

>>60452509
It was born dead, Blu-ray killed it

>>60465622
Too bad Xbox only sold well on US

>>60466692
me too anon
it was all about ergonomics, convenience and a wonderful new cordless life, they would bundle remotes with every xbox 360, fucking glorious. more features, and genuinely competitive prices with risks being taken by companies at every turn.

now it's all about stripping away comfort and functionality to opt you into bullshit never ending pay services and shitty microtransactions on devices with barely any accessibility and made by retarded monkies who don't even know what the word ergonomic means. no risks taking place, no fun to be had. just the same old rehashed faggotry.

even the pc market has stagnated into worthlessness
why am i even here

>>60452727
You're a retard then, Blu-ray was superior, who gives a shit if an inferior product costs less?

>>60468040
tell that to the best selling consoles.
ps2 and wii, and even the DS

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>>60465696
>He's a faggot Democrat with a sore bum bum many months after losing

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Still have my hd DVD player and the only 2 movies I ever got for it. I got 300 for free with it but had to fight like hell to give that pieces of shit away to a used DVD store.

>>60468078
They simply didn't need the capacity of Blu-ray, you dense mother fucker. From a media standpoint, you can't argue that shitty 720p "hd" and crappy compressed audio is somehow better than 1080p.

>>60468124
good taste anon.

>>60468040
>The superior product always wins
It doesn't work that way sweetie.

>>60468144
how can you be so fucking stupid
it's not a matter of MOAR SPACE MORE BETTUR!!! no one is disputing the fact that bluray has more space available

it's a matter of convenience and pricing.

ps3 with bluray was more convenient and since people have it they wont be buying hd dvd players

meanwhile hd dvd players and the discs themselves were cheaper. bluray discs were notorious for how easily damaged they are. but now they're about as strong as a normal dvd.

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I for one covered my bases.

>>60468241
Again, they cheaped out by using shitty HD DVD tech in their consoles because they didn't have a need for Blu-ray. You're failing to establish a meaningful argument to support your original claim.

Blu Ray sounds cooler.

>>60468255
>Those usb 3.0 ports

Why did they even bother? I never even saw any thing that used usb 3 till recently, but even then it's seems like it only exists to make flash drives cost 3 times as much.

>>60468255
lol

>>60456692
0/10 meme

>>60468348
I bought a PCIe USB 3.0 card years ago, because my motherboard didn't have USB 3.0.

Used it to connect my DSLR since raw pictures are about 35MB each (and that's with lossy compression).

>>6046826 8
>they cheaped out by using shitty HD DVD tech in their consoles
lol nobody used HD DVDs in any of the consoles you fucking retard, the 360 has a side player that you'd have to purchase if you wanted it.

ps3 was the only reason bluray won. not because it was the better tech, but because it was more convenient.
hd dvd would've won had sony not given support for it in the ps3 because it was cheaper

comprende?

>>60452788
/thread

>>60468539
Porn industry as well

>tfw chose HD DVD
>tfw bought HD DVD player for the 360
>tfw got the 6 free HD DVDs that all basically sucked
>tfw lost

So people buy the 360 HD DVD player as a collectors item now?

>>60452788
the xbox 360 had an optional external HD-DVD drive. It was not enough.

>>60469375
It was a 200$ option iirc