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why do computers use binary? why dont they use something more

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why do computers use binary? why dont they use something more intuitive like english?
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i licked a negro once
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>>60440566
That doesn't even look like a computer. Who are you trying to fool, OP?
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>>60440577
Did you like it anon?
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>>60440593
If it's not a computer, why's there a keyboard?
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>>60440593
>>60440610
its a terminal VT100. Classic
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>>60440566
Google it, fuckface. It's as simple as on or off.
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>>60440652
Or it could be as simple as English or being an illegal immigrant
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>>60440566
01100010 01100101 01100011 01100001 01110101 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01101110 01100101 01100011 01100101 01110011 01110011 01100001 01110010 01111001 00101100 00100000 01000100 01010101 01001000 00100001 00100000 00101000 01101001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101100 01110010 01100101 01100001 01100100 01111001 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01110101 01101001 01110100 01101001 01110110 01100101 00101000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01101110 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100101 01100001 01101110 01110011 00101001 00101001
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because understanding languages properly involves having feelings and understanding them. A machine doens't have feelings.

Come to think of it, do you think electrons have feelings?
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Computers work on a binary system because that's the only way they can receive and interpret data. If electric flow is going through, that's a 1. If there is no electric flow, that's a 0. New quantum computers can send more data in power though.
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>>60440710
my electrons have feels
u just triggered them by thinking they dont >:(
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>>60440743
Prove it fucco
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>>60440711
Why does it have to be binary? Why not have different states for different voltage values?
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>>60440776
*feels*
u.. dirty...!!!!!

prove ur real/exist/ur consciousness exists!
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>>60440710
human beings are made of electrons. if humans can have feelings so can puters
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You all took it
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>>60440826
there was a tasty treat on that hook
we left the hook behind tho
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Why do computers run on electricity? Why don't they run on water, that way I can still look at my chinese cartoons even when the power goes out
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>>60440813
maybe they'll do it when we manage to be organic
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>>60440786
Too much fluctuation, at least for them to handle when computers were first being built. If your power goes up or down then the values move up or down.
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>>60440786
>different voltage values
Because transistors aren't usually built to run different voltage values. You have the on and off gate. You can't really logistically have an entire circuit board designed to receive and transmit a multitude of voltages reliably.
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>>60440566
Because space is quantized.

You might be able to build a Turing-like machine whose data flow was in English instead of binary, but it would never be as material-efficient as a modern computer, because the number of possible values its data could take on (infinitely many, each differently expressive, some similar to each other with small nuances in meaning) wouldn't parallel the number of possible energy states of an electron (very few).
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>>60440847
When we manage to be organic? But we already are organic?
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>>60440786
because that's just how a computer is made
they're made of transistors and logic gates which at the lowest level store an on or off position as a bit, this can be used for binary encoding. 32 of these on off switches can represent 2^32 different values or states
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>>60440786
Because storing voltage values was/is very unreliable. Capacitors were considered but they can't be zeroed out because of dialectric memory (I think it's called) and other effects. Then switching circuits were experimented with and it was realized that binary could be used for counting. Early analog computers used voltages and resistances for computations. They could do functions but I can't remember how. Maybe another anon knows.
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>>60440566
Computers run on electricity (practical ones anyway as opposed to a theoretical turing machine). A better question is why they have to be binary instead of hex etc. Essentially the conductors in a computer would have to be capable of consistently detecting fractions of an amount of electricity eg 0.1 = 1, 0.9 = 9 etc. Currently this cannot be guaranteed especially after years of use (voltages can vary heavily due to many factors) so we are stuck with "any electrical input at all is 1 and anything else is 0". Even 1s and 0s are abstractions
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>>60440566
God, the computer/monitor looks so damn slick. They really did a nice job with that one. The keyboard looks nice too.
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>>60440917
Yes I'm replying to my own post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer

Pretty good article really.
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>>60440566

Why do humans use spoken languages? Why dont they use something more intuitive like complex body movements or a series of precise pheromone secretions?
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>>60440566
The new iMicrowave, with wireless keyboard, ladies and gents
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>>60441171
01111001 00100000 01110101 00100000 01100101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 00100000 01101101 01110101 01100011 01101000 00100000 01100011 01101000 01101001 01101011 01110101 01101110 00111111 00100001
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>>60440577
what the fucking fuck
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>>60441171
>>60441247
Try this out for size

00110001 00110000 00110000 00110001 00110000 00110000 00100000 00100000 00110000 00110001 00110000 00110000 00110001 00110000 00100000 00110000 00100000 00110001 00110000 00110000 00110000 00110001 00110000 00110000 00110001 0001010
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>>60440806
I am here. My senses are proof enough of existence. And you are not real. You are part of me and my mind. I own you.
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>>60440826
It's a pretty weird/really makes me think question though.
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>>60441309
Nuh huh ur just mean; but i can b meaner if u wana play >:(((

>>60441299
the paradox!!
MIND ADFJNDASF
(pic related)
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>>60440860
Ternary based computers were eventually built, but the binary lobby stamped them out.
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>>60440566

does it cook hot pockets too?
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>>60441323
Some guy named Claude Shannon realized that you could use circuit switching relays to solve any Boolean algebra problem.
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>>60441171
01010100 01010010 01001001 01000111 01000111 01000101 01010010 00100000 01010100 01010010 01001001 01000111 01000111 01000101 01010010 00100000 01010100 01010010 01001001 01000111 01000111 01000101 01010010 00100001 00100000 01001110 01001001 01000111 01000111 01000001 00100000 01010111 01000001 01010100 01000011 01001000 00100000 01011001 01001111 00100000 01010011 01001110 01001001 01000011 01001011 01000001 00100000 01000011 01010101 01011010 00100000 01001101 01011001 00100000 01001110 01001001 01000111 01000111 01000001 00100000 01001001 01010011 00100000 01000001 00100000 01001011 01001001 01001100 01001100 01000001 00100000 01000001 01001110 01000100 00100000 01000011 01001111 01001101 01000101 01010011 00100000 01000110 01010010 01001111 01001101 00100000 01010111 01000101 01010011 01010100 00100000 01010110 01001001 01010010 01000111 01001001 01001110 01001001 01000001 00100001
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>>60440566

Because computers are fundamentally just logic devices: AND, OR, NOT. That, plus memory, plus some kind of counter.

Computers basically just produce some particular output based upon a stream of logical inputs (individual bits).
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>>60440566
if .exe is a binary then how does it work within a complex system?
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>>60440566
Because switches in electrical circuits can only be on or off. Hence binary.
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>>60441353
>but the binary lobby stamped them out
How binary of them.
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>>60442249
quick fact.
the correct way to pronounce binary is bin'-uh-ree, not bye'-nair-ee.
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>>60442206
What about half on or off or switching on off repeatedly? Bet you didn't think of that.
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>>60440577
Shut up Terry
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>>60440566
Because electrons have 2 genders.
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>>60440566
You try and make a system that operates with the complexity and countless combinations of meaningful statements you can make with the English language instead of a simple on/off mechanism. Look how long that took us
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>>60440566
Why don't you?
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>>60440566
>english
>intuitive
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>>60442206
?????
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>>60440711
Actually, there were working ternary computers, with -1,0,1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer
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>>60443541
>try to be clever
>look like an idiot instead
That's actually four switches in one package, hence the four, or more, wires.
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>>60443560
>computers running on AC
Fuck all the things.
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>>60443571
>3 wires
>infinite switches
???????explain
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>>60443661
Not sure if trolling or stupid. That is not a switch, some potentiometers have off switch at the start but this one doesn't.
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>>60443560
Fuck, that parallel universe must be awesome.
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>>60440566
because they're made in mexico.. they only speak mexican which is such a primitive language for us it's called binary
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>>60443661
Now you've actually cottoned on to something.
With a variable resistor you can change the voltage (but not in infinite increments, so you're still retarded) the problem is actually designing around a power measurement system in the CPU design.

Off and on are simple, either there is power or there isn't. Either the transistor will open or it won't.
But if you want to use different levels of voltage then you will basically need to (at the least least) multiply the number of gates by the number of voltage steps you want.
This makes things even trickier because the tolerance to voltage changes would have to decrease significantly as well to prevent the wrong transistors opening.

Also, a variable resistor is not a switch, as it is never off.
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I still don't understand how quantum computers can work with more than 2 states
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>>60444027
They don't
They only work with China now.
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>>60440566
English has a lot of words. It will be hard.

Binary has only two.

You don't want your computer to become an SJW
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>>60440566
This is such a pleb question. The patrician question would be, why does logic accept the law of excluded middle, and no other alternative?
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