WHY???

Because Pidgin was good enough.

Back then Hangouts and Facebook Messenger worked over XMPP and you could even encrypt messages so there was no need for stuff like Tox or Signal.

Messaging wasn't as shitty as it is today. It only got like that thanks to BBM, WhatsApp and iMessage. If it wasn't for it's retarded limitation and their retarded users swallowing them like dicks, we would still have huge corporations doing public APIs to use their services.

There's Wire though.

>>60439648
>Because Pidgin was good enough.
There is no group chat support. What I'm basically saying is open source Discord with e2e crypto.

(Telegram doesn't count. If one or both users are using the desktop client, no crypto. If one or both users haven't opted into crypto, no crypto. There is no crypto for group chat. There is no crypto anywhere by default. Fuck Telegram.)

>>60439579
>Why don't we have an open source, beautiful, minimalistic, cross-platform, and easy to use XMPP client with forced OTR encryption and group chat support? It's 2017. How does this not exist?
Do want.

>you will never experience the wire
I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

>>60439579
Why don't you program it?

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>>60439579
We're only moving further away from that ideal as normies calcify around closed systems like WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, and SMS/RCS. Even AIM and MSN Messenger were better than what's dominating now.

We'll never escape this unless a large corporation forces a better standard, but that's obviously contrary to their interests, so here we are.

>>60439888
Also using telegram is like letting Putin into your house.

>>60441749
Putin nice guy, why not let him in? No problems, only looks at you porn, leaves house gift for warming. Is ok.

>>60441775
Uh, o-ok, I thought he'd try to fuck my mom and steal my freedom

>>60439579
Use rocketchat and host it on your own hardware. it has OTR

>>60439579
>Anime
Hi.
Go to hell.

Are you really THIS stupid mods? I'm immortal.

Hey fuck you, I remember my days of ignorance where I would use messenger plus with random ass sound bytes from popular anymays or decade and a half old memes

>>60441901
You could say he'd putin something nice inside your mome heh heh