What brands do you avoid for no other reason than the brand?

'"american'" products

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>>60437196

acer

>>60437196
Samsung, any American car maker, any brand for the 50s that randomly pops up again.

idunno i don't really trust corsair power supplies
never had any problems with them i just feel like
they shouldn't be a thing?

corsair cases are usually pretty good.
I also prefer intel over amd, but amd is really killing it this year.

Corsair

Everything they put out looks like it belongs in Bayformers.

>>60437546
>idunno i don't really trust corsair power supplies
>never had any problems with them i just feel like
>they shouldn't be a thing?
iktf. Even though all their shit has decent OEM's now, it still just makes my skin crawl. Same with literally anything electronic that's made by Rosewill.

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>>60437564
>rosewill
yeah I get that feel from them too.
not sure what it is.

>>60437564
>>60437558
guilty of this too

>>60437580
because it sounds like a company that should be making combi drills

AMD and Radeon, simply because I've been brought up on Intel and Nvidia and because they are objectively better products.

>>60437196
apple, acer, anything canadian

>>60437453
American cars aren't too bad, Chrysler and GM do suck but Ford/Lincoln has some great cars. I got a 90s Towncar with 300,000 miles on it. My sisters taurus from 2005 has 200,000 on it. I hate German and Italian cars because they are a pain to fix and are unreliable

>>60437196
Intel
and
Nvidia
because
Jews

>>60437615
how would you know they are objectively better when you admit you avoid the competition entirely

Apple

>>60437633

I've used them once, both failed.

Asus. i own one of their laptops and i fucking love it. but i'll be damned if i ever let myself buy an Asus motherboard or graphics card. i have no explanation for that.

>>60437626
I would never buy a German car again. VW was a mistake, so was BMW.

I stick with the Japanese brands now. I have far better luck with them.

>>60437196
Western Digital
Hitachi
Toshiba
MSI
Biostar
EVGA
Intel
Nvidia
Apple
Samsung
Kingston(HyperX is fine)
HP
Lenovo
Allienware/Dell
Lexmark
Pioneer
Panasonic
Sony

Just bad luck with their products or dislike their business practices/honoring warranties.

>>60437679
I only buy Ford/Lincoln/Mazda or Japanese brands like Toyota or Subaru. Do not buy Nissan though as they are made poorly.

An article about how shitty german cars are
http://dougdemuro.kinja.com/german-reliability-the-greatest-myth-ever-sold-to-amer-1572026115

>>60437679
>so was BMW.
This. I will replace my E46 with a civic or corolla.

>>60437679
Not all of them. I put 345000 miles on a 190E. My wife's one is pushing 220000 miles. Some exhaust work, and consumables like oil, brake pads, and tires have been about it for maintenance.

>>60437704
>Western Digital
I think they are good
>Hitachi
They make good HDs and Power tools
>Toshiba
Shit
>MSI
Shit
>Biostar
What?
>EVGA
Had one of their cards die on me, think they are shit
>Intel
They are fine
>Nvidia
Fuck Nvidia, Linus Torvalds said it best
>Apple
A bunch of fags, and their products break easily
>Samsung
A crappy Sony
>Kingston(HyperX is fine)
I think they are fine
>HP
The worst company ever, had 3 motherboard blowouts on their laptops this year
>Lenovo
Still Better than HP/Acer
>Allienware/Dell
Still Better than HP/Acer
>Lexmark
Never owned anything from them
>Pioneer
Never owned anything from them
>Panasonic
Very durable technology
>Sony
I really like sony. PS2 4 Life

>>60437615
You know what else is objectively better? A mansion.

Apple
HP
Compaq

>>60437196
>Nvidia
My last Nvidia GPU was a Fermi, I upgraded to a R9 290 and never looked back

>Corsair
I've had Corsair PSUs and RAM in the past. Obviously there are better PSUs but I prefer G. Skill RAM. Their cases are alright though.

>Acer
I've dealt with their shitty notebooks way too many times

>TPLink
should be obvious

>>60437208
(((American))) peoducts

>>60437208
I do this. I actively try to avoid anything that advertises itself as "made in the USA!" because that's really code for "we think you stupid goyim will pay more for an inferior product out of nationalism and xenophobia"

>>60437704
>Western Digital
>Hitachi
>Toshiba
>but not Seagate
talk about winning the silicon lottery

>>60437196
Everybody seems to love LG... but they forget about the time they literally put a virus in their disc drives and called it a feature...

>>60437679
>buying Japanese cars

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>>60437679
Dude Mercedes is not bad, I own a 1989 190e with 275,000 miles on it and I rarely have a problem and I drive up to 80+ miles a day. I also have an E320 in my garage with close to 400,000 thousand miles on it.

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I refuse to buy any other car brands other than Subaru, Toyota, Mercedes, or Range Rover.

>>60437196
Nvidia.

I stay away from Razer. They overcharge. That's really it.

AMD.
I've bought them in the past and every single time the system ended up running like a pile of overheated dogshit.

Mazda.

>>60437196
>Apple
Bought a iPhone 5s to my dad because he wanted a smartphone, messed with it for some weeks, /g/ was right it sucks.
>Razer
Overpriced meme, very few decent products
>Positivo
Brazilian brand, you don't wanna mess with them

anything american, chinkshit all the way

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>>60437679
VW is amazing desu

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>>60438047
That was the old german cars, Nowadays they are shit, Expensive to fix, unreliable, trash. Lexus 4 Life

Also fuck the German race. The Japanese race is way better and less cucked.

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>>60437196
Anything that's owned by Chink companies. Because they're the fucking dirty stinking commies.

I don't mind as much "made in china", because it's unavoidable, but I would never buy something whose profits go to China. Chinese-owned brands are the fucking cancer.

Also, I avoid everything by Google because they're the most evil company today.

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>>60438141
Guten Tag Meester, soy Pedro I meen Hansel, the hombre who made your VW.

-AMD, their CPUs have been shit post-Athalon
-Dell, their machines always seem to have RAM issues
-Apple, they drop support for pretty much anything that isn't an iPhone way too quickly plus the hardware is shit for the price

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Samsung. Ever since I saw what a piece of shit the nexus S was I've avoided them since the plague.

I think I made the right decision.

Sony

Sony is fucking trash. made the walkman but after that they have nothing. Sometimes there are multiple sony brands of the same thing. Like multiple sony mp3 players, bravia television along with some other ones. It's like chinkshit except all in one company, a thousand rip offs. Flooding the market with tons of shit and hope people pick them over the actual good ones. Not one truly good product, not even one worth buying over the competition.

And have you seen their movie division?

I know Playstation exists but it's mainly third parties keeping that afloat.

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>>60438179
>commies
>post-deng china

>>60437240
>implying this isnt based af
fuck paying taxes if you can get away with it, I'd do the same

>>60437196

Microsoft outside of when I'm mandated to use it. Their litigation against FOSS and their history of "Extend, Embrace, Extinguish", and their control freakish nature are enough reasons to give them the middle finger.

>>60437679
german cars are meant for roads that have literally almost no imperfections like the roads of western europe. that and being maintained by the book... protip whereas bmw usa recommends a 10k oil change interval, they recommend shorter intervals in europe. why is that? because of the free maintenance, so they extend the oil change intervals to make the free services as low in cost to them as possible at the expense of the buyer's engines reliability

>>60437639
/thread

Sony is pretty much the only brand I'll avoid when it comes to electronics.

>>60439444
Sony has gone to shit in the last decade.

>>60439456
they lost a shit ton on their computer division

>>60437196
Lenovo because malware on BIOS.

Seagate because shit-tier.

Sandisk because i can get a better equivalent for less.

>>60439456
The last time I bought a pair of Sony earbuds I had to return them before I got to my car in the parking lot because they were broken, then at the register I opened another pair and they were also broken.

I couldn't believe how shit my luck was so I had the cashier check them to make sure it wasn't my phone jack.

the playstation was sony's downfall, serves them right for killing sega

>>60437626
Porsche has a service life of 80K miles on average. Whether that is a reliability issue or if rich cunts drive them into the ground, is anyone's guess.

Honda is like 180K though. Id get an older accord as a daily driver just because it will run forever and Aftermarket parts are plentiful and cheap.

MSI
i haven't actually had a bad experience with them, i just haven't trusted them for like a decade now

>>60439514
boxer engine methinks, something about how the hot oil sits at the bottom of the engine ruining the headgasket like with subarus. also being more performance will lead to shorter engine life

>>60437240
>paying taxes is a good thing
>funding government failures is a good thing
statists lmao

>>60438142
So just buy a Toyota and get some extra features rather than buying a car for entitled rich housewives.

>>60439534
if you don't like it, feel free to move to somalia

>>60437196
Fractal cases, /g/ and its cultish obsession with blandness turned me away from them, even if the define S is a good case for a waterloop

I like their fans though

>>60438142
Found the un-American

Please remain where you are, HUAC will arrive shortly to correct your ethnic fixation

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>>60437196
Apple

Chinkshit trash made by child slaves in sweatshops with dirt cheap lowest bidder garbage materials, and sold at French boutique prices.

>>60437240
taxation is theft. that being said the same rules should apply to everyone this includes taxes

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>>60439171
>>60439534
>i want to pay more taxes and have my own paycheck cut into even more to make up for government programs because apple dodged their taxes and won't pay their share

Appletoddler subhumans should be rounded up and gassed.

>>60439548
>Moving near a bunch of niggers
you could have the best system in the world and niggers would still find a way to ruin it. Of course somalia is a shithole.

>>60438109
What's wrong with them?

I own a 750w rose will PSU, its still going fine driving a Fury for awhile, but I still don't trust it.

>>60437196
HP
Fuck HP

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>>60439548
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596707000741
>on nearly all of 18 key indicators that allow pre- and post-stateless welfare comparisons, Somalis are better off under anarchy than they were under government

>Somalis are better off under anarchy than they were under government
>Somalis are better off under anarchy than they were under government
>Somalis are better off under anarchy than they were under government

LMAOing at you are life

Razer
Acer
HP (Well other than their calculators)
Intel
Seagate

Brand generalizations are pointless. They all have tarnished records and routinely release broken shit anyway.

>>60437196
When it comes to moniters I only buy asus
I don't even look at other brands

CalSpas

my dad during his idiot spending period bought one of these shit spas. they're cheaper than anything else because they're made of cardboard and host mold like nobody's business.

>>60437196
any product with any sort of link to SJWs
any product used by SJWs
any product marketed for SJWs

>>60439692
They didn't dodge taxes. They arranged their affairs so that they weren't legally required to pay more than the minimum possible amount. Which everyone does and nobody should find the least bit objectionable.

You're also overlooking the obvious solution here of cutting government programs. The US spends about a trillion dollars a year on both the military and on medicare.

>>60437196
nvidia

They refused to release sources for tegra so I had to buy another phone in order to be able to upgrade and the same shit repeated itself a few years later when I had the infamous torvalds-fuckfinger-optimus-graphics. Other stuff like the woodscrews and 970 were the topping of the cake.

Nvidia can go to hell.

>>60441457
Off yourself mactoddler.

>>60437196
Eureka Forbes
Compaq
AMD

>>60437196
Seagate
Wd
(((Hp)))
Amd cpus
Nvidia graphics

Anything dell. I hate the design, lifespan, screens, even the name sounds like shit. Pure garbage.

Anything Google... Gmail, Google Chrome, Google Phone, Google Plus, Google Docs, never creating a Google or a YouTube account... because it's creepy as fuck how much they already know about you and I want as little of my searches as possible to be tied to my real name.

I mean I'm sure they already have the technology to figure it out but I'm sure as hell not going to make it convenient for them.

I'll sometimes begrudgingly use Google Search through Startpage or DuckDuckGo because most other search engines are garbage.

>>60437844
I heard dogs were also objectively better.

>>60441753
>Seagate
>Wd
What brand HDDs do you use then anon?

>>60437240
It's literally illegal to pay more tax than is legally possible if you're a publicly traded company retarded. Apple is still a shitty company though.

>>60437676
>asus
Yep this

Before i started using *nix on apple hardware i went through a phase where i needed every bang for buck on my windows platform. I bought an asus laptop and 4850 graphics card.

The laptop hinge broke in 6 months and the mobo died 2yeasrs later....also the graphics card never fit right and was sketchy as fuck

Also anything linksys - had a pci wlan card almost kill my first x58 i7 because they dicked up the pci physical fit.

Never again...

>>60437679
>hating on BMW

t. Toyota pajeet

>>60441885
Awful lot of shit "don't fit" you sure you're just not a burger chomping retard?

>>60437196
Asus for AMD GPU at least. p67 Mobo has been fine for 5 years this july. GPU works but my 390x cooler only touches the center heat pipe and half of the two next to it, I guess 1+.5+.5 out of 4 was close enough.

Not computers, but for audio, anything by Behringer is complete garbage.

>>60437196
Kroger Simple Truth. I know it's not tech but I have a deeply held prejudice against this brand. I believe all their products are made of some polymerization of the same basic harmful and cheap abundant substance.

i avoid lenovo laptops. they tend to have terrible cooling systems.

>>60437240
>DUDE PAY FOR MY SHIT LMAO

Pepsi. Never liked Pepsi but love coke

packard bell

AMD, only people i ever knew with AMD cpus turned out to be faggots
used to like ATI too until they got shafted

Apple, Samsung, (((Razer)), and basically anything that sounds gaymer cringy (G.Skill, ECKSTREME RIPJAWS...)

Apple, Google, Microsoft and Samsung are on the top of my list

Dell with the exception of monitors.

>>60437196
>AMD
I'm a good goy and I want to pay a premium price for that sweet 1% increase in performance

>>60437196
Apple - "tech" for airheads

>>60437196
Kingston, Transcend is just so much better and basically unknown.

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Ctrl+f "acer"

>>60437404
>>60437626
>>60437815
>>60437906
>>60440105

my boys

AMD.

I built my computer many years ago with an AMD CPU and the amount of times I've ran into features not supported by the AMD architecture is ridiculous.

None, really. But if it's a brand that's got a dodgy history I'll examine the particular product I'm interested in, and all things being equal, steer away from it.

Apple
ASUS
Razer
Seagate
HP
Best Buy (Maybe not a "brand" but they're so fucking shit)
Crysler

>>60439692
This picture is cringy af.

>>60439436
>because of the free maintenance
whut

>>60437679
>German
They seem like such a pain in the ass to work on.
The few german cars Ive looked at you couldnt get a hand in the engine bay sideways.

>Japanese
Im honestly considering this too. Atleast you can reach inside of the fucking things.

Advent. It's pcworlds own brand afaik and it's absolute garbage. Fuck.

>>60439503
sega sucked though

>>60445594
I always avoids razer in the past on account of the image they had seemed a bit tacky and childish but my sister, bless, got me a headset for my birthday a couple of years ago, sound quality is pretty impressive both the cans and the mic and they are comfy as a warm moist hole, a year and a half later and there's no noticeable degredation...So yeah I'm pretty impressed with them.

>>60446186
> it's absolute garbage
> for no other reason than the brand

Alienware and Razer because tacky gaymen shit
Acer is just regular shit
Seagate because I had two 3yo drives fail on me

>>60439051
They're not horrible, but it's the closest thing to iPhone on Android there is. If you attempt to root your device a flag is physically raised (a bit that physically can't be reversed) that your warranty is void. Still better than Apple IMO but I think I'll move to a cheaper brand and mod my phone immediately when I do

T. Sent from Galaxy S5 neo

BMW. Hate everything about them, especially their bikes. Needlessly complicated for nothing. Special tool for the oil filler? Seriously?

I have a bit of a bias against Suzuki, some of their bikes are excellent but some are dog shit and full of problems. Either they think charging systems are a joke or they engineered for failure right from "go". I don't understand how they can ruin an otherwise good bike like that...and keep fucking doing it!

I don't like Nissan much, the juke is a heap of steaming shit. I'm slowly getting into cars and seeing that thing turned me away from them. I don't like Subaru because of the boxer motor.

I'm trying to think of a company I legit hate but it's har...harley davidson. You don't buy a bike, you buy an image.

>>60442499
>>60439678
Let's hope you never need to use a road, the hospital, need the help of the police, state funded education...

>>60446398
Oh fuck I'm /g/.

Apple...a bullshit company that makes crap and when asked why by someone sensible, they reply "because we can."

Microsoft because it's shit. They used to be alright.

Crucial because of bad ram, same with corsair which kinda sucks.

Plus all the million chingshong bullshit one hung low brands that screwed me over the years.

>>60446470
>>Plus all the million chingshong bullshit one hung low brands that screwed me over the years.
Chink shit is cheap crap, but at least it's honest about being cheap crap. Too much stuff that's meant to be 100% made-in-America premium high-quality stuff is actually just as cheap and just as crappy. It just has a shiny coat of paint on it and is sold for a big fat markup.

>>60441457
>You're also overlooking the obvious solution here of cutting government programs.
No, the solution is to fix the ridiculous tax system and it's exploits. Which no government will because of the huge amount of lobbying enormous corporations like apple are capable of.

Apple's tax policy is not the problem, it is a symptom

>Samsung
>Applel
>Dell
>Gayming crap(razer,ayylmaoware)
>Pepsico and whatever company coke is
>HP
>Modern German cars
>American companies
>"Startups"
>"Kickstarters"

Toshiba laptops
New Motorola equipment
Windows 10

>>60446595
Nearly forgot, Mercedes. Fuck them.

Trust

What so bad about Acer?

>have had two expensive Samsung TVs die on me within 12 months of buying them
>have had two cheap Vizio TVs work perfectly for years

Really made me think.

>AMD
Always made shit, will make shit.
>Samsung
had enough bad experiences

Everything else is alright

>>60437196
A Logitech mouse driver fucked up my entire windows installation once over 10 years ago.

A lifelong grudge against brands is really useful in speeding up purchasing decisions by eliminating options.

>>60446782
this. haven't bought anything samsung since 1999

among local shit like stores, i avoid hp, apple, genius, acer, toshiba, kingston, seagate

i'm sure there are more, but those are in the top of my head. basically garbage i bought and fali on me.

>>60438070
>Range Rover

Is this bait?

>>60446544
>Which no government will because of the huge amount of lobbying enormous corporations like apple are capable of.
Don't blame it on the lobbyists. Blame it on the spineless politicians who decide to take their money. All it takes is someone willing to say no

>>60437196
Any brand that had a very good reputation in the 50-70's for American made, extremely reliable, cutting edge, down to earth blue collar or hippy founder, but went public and lost their way. Craftsman is a good example. Or for that matter pretty much any classic American company.

The worst is when they go full blown bankrupt and the name is sold off to some faceless Chinese manufacturer.

With computers I like intell and Nvidia for no real reason besides my first pre-built "gaming" computer had them, and I became an entrenched fanboy. Same with PlayStation. I think I'm right to be skeptical of any hardware made my mircosoft though.

Nike.

>>60437196
msi - a gpu fan once broke on a gpu i had once back in the day
asus - a dvi slot broke once
amd - cpu died
radeon - i have no proof but back when i had one i had regular bluescreens (about 2 per week) and after replacing it with a nvidia card the bluescreens stoped
every hdd that is not WD-RED - i have bunch they always work are always reliable and the chance that any other company could be remotely as reliable is too low for me to risk it

>>60439692
>Unironically using the phrase "appletoddler"

AMD , Radeon , Razer , Logitech ,

>>60437196

>who
Dell

>why
1-wire charging

>>60437920
>Made in America
>inferior product

I'm assuming you're not actually American.

>>60447420
Nope, I live in the middle of Flyover Country, USA.

Saw it growing up with (what else) cars. My grandfather was a WWII vet and refused to buy a Japanese car. One after another product of Detroit (a Pontiac, two different Dodge sedans, I think one other one I'm forgetting) was a broken-down heap of junk by 60,000 miles. He was fed up with it, and finally held his nose and bought a Toyota. Which just ran with no problems for fifteen years and 150k until he died. American brands have no incentive to actually make quality products because they know people will buy them just because they're American.

>>60447570
One one type of product turned out bad and you think all American products are bad. You're a moron.

>>60447658
You're a moron for thinking that a captive market makes companies more likely, rather than less likely, to offer a quality product.

>>60447673
Just keep buying your garbage from China and India or whatever.

So what car brands are actually good. I thought german make best

>>60437240
>local schools, state police and groceries get federal funding
Facebook-tier infographic kys for posting this

>>60447673
Okay Einstein, let's go over the facts. If a brand offers quality products, YouTubers and internet forums are most likely going to recommend them. If they are being paid to do an ad, they are legally required to state it. Your friends and family members will recommend brands they enjoy, in hopes you will enjoy them too. This is especially prevalent in food. "Yo, wanna hang out sometime? There's this great restaurant up the street!" If you are curious about any product, there's an internet full of sources and reviews. Now onto American produced goods. I'm sure we can both agree China has shittier living and working conditions than the US. And China is where we get most of our products. So, in turn, if the Americans are paid more, given better working conditions, and have better living conditions, why in the fuck wouldn't the product be just the same, or more likely, better than the other product? However most people buy American produced goods because they want their money flowing through their own country's economy. If you are tight on money, China makes pretty good stuff as well. This is not to say that all Chinese made products are not as good as the US made products. There are some Chinese made products that are even better than the other US made product. Do you have a problem with capitalism, edgy teenage commie twat? It seems that this system works, unlike communism.

seagate
sandisk
samsung
acer
panasonic
apple
lenovo
i was a big sony fanboy but i will not gonna let myself get jew'd ever again, except when they actually start to make products thats are competitive with the concurence

>>60437240
>subpar state healthcare
>indoctrination camps
>food for the lazy
>gas for corrupt fascists
I love big corporations now.

>>60447873
Well yeah, if you believe in capitalism you should be agreeing with me. If a bunch of people are buying a company's products because of some reason other than their quality or price (e.g., "people buy American produced goods because they want their money flowing through their own country's economy") then that company doesn't really have to compete on price or quality. They can get sales by saying "Hey, we're American!". It's a distortion of the market that happens when people trade for reasons other than strictly economic ones.

Same deal with protectionism. If you keep the foreign companies out the domestic companies have a lot less competition. Less competition leads to higher prices and poorer quality. (you might recognize this effect of lack of competition with regards to ISPs.)

>>60447999
You wanna know why you're a moron? Because most Americans aren't going to pay more for an inferior product just because it was made in America so if a company wants that label to mean something, their product has to at the very least be as good as a foreign competitor's product.

>>60448076
>most Americans aren't going to pay more for an inferior product just because it was made in America
oh I am laughing

I see people do exactly that all the time

>>60437196
Zotak

lmy 9800GT iterally caught fire

>>60437631
this.

>>60448093
>muh anecdotal evidence

Read a book, nigga.

>Gigabyte if you buying AMD GPU
>Asrock (Only X type (High End) Motherboards are OK, forget the A/B models)
>Sony/HTC phones in the Low end (Way to expensive, get a chinkphone instead)
>Alienware (While technically their products rarely brakes (Also they have a 3-5 Year warranty) they are overpriced as fuck
>No Name PSU's (I recommend FSP, Thermaltake, EVGA... stay away from Chieftec+Zalman)

Apple,see too many of my friends with broken apple phones.

HP (other than their calculators), Seagate HDDs, Kingston SSDs.

>>60437196
HP anything.

How the fuck did Fiorina even gained notoriety when everything that came out of that company was such shit.

>>60437920
>I actively try to avoid anything that advertises itself as "made in the USA!"

Top tier:
>made in Japan
>made in Austria

Meh tier:
>made in Italy
>made in Taiwan

Cheap tier:
>Made in China
>Made in Thailand

Shit tier:
>made in Bangladesh
>made in USA

Nigger what are you doing tier:
>proud product of Brazil

>>60437626
>American cars aren't too bad, Chrysler and GM do suck but Ford/Lincoln has some great cars. I got a 90s Towncar with 300,000 miles on it. My sisters taurus from 2005 has 200,000 on it. I hate German and Italian cars because they are a pain to fix and are unreliable

thats like straight from flyover quote from a redneck who swears by his chevy s10 as an american car, even though it was made in mexico.

>>60447999
Better working conditions, better living standards, better pay. What is there not to get that the product made in America will almost always be better? Also not samefag with
>>60448076 stop calling him a morning you're not winning dicktits

HP.

You are cut off from any support once the warranty ends. Literally go ask the community forums for help.
But they will gladly sign you up for some tech help service ;)

Their drivers download pages are shit, or their drivers are shit too.
I had to go download drivers from a lenovo site to get hardware to work on an HP laptop.

Their consumer lineup of anything is shit.

>>60450577
*Moron

>>60437196
Corsair, Samsung, Asus

>>60442454
White box/generic food brands are literally no different in quality than their branded counterparts. Main difference will be taste.

t. food industry fag

>>60437766

And I went from EG Civic to E46. Two months later I was in "wtf have I done mode".

>>60446468
dude he's american, I lived in a town where a friend of mine became mayor twenty years ago and he got immense opposition for wanting to have the sewage treated instead of raw dumping it to the river and got into even more shit because no one wanted to pay for garbage collection, people would literally light their garbage on fire to avoid having to pay 7.50 a month.

>>60447658
>you think all American products are bad.
no, all industrial products that come out of the USA are probably second to none. Consumer products however? you're dreaming if you believe they're better than anything else.

I posed a boomer the same fucking question at a walmart when we were looking for packaging tape, Duck(made in china) and 3M (made in america), same lengh and width, 3m $5.50 duck $1.98.

Guess which one he preferred to buy? People like to say they buy would buy american, but at the end of the day they are not willing to put their money where their mouth is. and worse are completely ignorant to the fact that what they think are american products are actually manufactured elsewhere. And when the toyota camry is manufactured in your own state and people look at it as a foreign car, that is just some cognitive dissonance worthy of a study.

>>60437196
I'd say apple but that's for reasons other than just the brand name.
Beats by dre then, could be great quality for all I know, but the brand name is hipster shit and I don't want it.

>>60437196
None
I know brands are just stickers.

>>60450495
you forgot legend tier "made in germany"
:^}

t. Kraut

>>60445594
>Asus
Agree with you on laptops, everything else is alright.

>Seagate
Because?

>>60450495
I got some cloth from Bangladesh and they were pretty good.

>>60451725
>everything else is alright
No...

>Because?
They're shit.

>>60437196

Sony - all their proprietary shill, forcing us to use blu-ray.
Nike - they're the Sony of the sports world.
HP - too many shit consumer machines in the 90's and early 2000's.
Apple - trendy and overpriced. Practically a cult.

>>60437196
Corsair, it's the Apple of pc components.

>>60452904
Apple's the Apple of PC components.

>Samsung
>Apple
>HTC
>Asus
>Razer
>Hp
>Amazon
>Lelnovo
>MSI
>Corsair

>>60450577
>Better working conditions, better living standards, better pay.
That doesn't necessarily lead to the employees giving a shit about what they produce. Or the management, for that matter.

>>60437196
Apple, acer, hp, lenovo

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>>60437208

There are quite a few american products that I love and are really high quality, like leatherman multitools, maglites, herman miller chairs, fisher space pens, gorilla tape and I don't know... a million other everyday use things.

They sort of make old-fashioned stuff but it's all really durable.

>>60437196
MSI, Intel, Sony.

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The only brands I avoid are Apple and Razer, they are the scum of the tech industry and sell overpriced junk (and with subpar build quality in Razer's case) to gullible people using marketing tricks.

Every other brand has at least a couple of good things going for it, even if they are still overpriced at least you can say they're of good quality, like Corsair (their K70 keyboards are great) or even the defunct Madcatz (they were awful but their arcade sticks were good).

>>60451988
>Says they're bad.
>Doesn't say why.

Nice one faggot.

>>60450816
>People would light their garbage on fire
Damn, that's on par with Venezuela or any african country.

>>60437196
Razer, Apple, and anything made by Samsung containing a battery.

>>60437196
asus

Apple
Razer
HP

>>60453603
Wtf am I looking at in that picture? Is that a router?

>>60453914
A desktop
https://www.razerzone.com/christine

>>60437196
Intel. I really hate x86 in general, so I buy AMD until there's a reasonably affordable alternative to x86 again.

I avoid Sony due to a childhood of shitty headphones that fell apart and a really shitty DRM filled ATRAC3 minidisc player.

Products were so purposely filled with AIDS by Sony because they push digital rights. It took 10x longer than drag and drop to transfer music to that pile of shit just because the music artists were being protected

>>60453626
I'd like to know where people get this idea that America is so evolved? There's more america past east and west coast, and it aint a pretty sight.

Acer - when I was a youngling my father bought me an Acer laptop. It was packed with so much random acer and non Acer software from a fresh install that It drove me insane, after a month the laptop became a big pile of smelly poo, we returned it for repair, they repaired our laptop and returned it, it turns out there custom version of the OS was the issue. The issue persisted, I nearly drank bleach and haven't ever attention since.

MSI.

Nothing but issues with two of their top-dollar AM3 boards. Cheap ass Biostar board outlived both of them combined, and then some.

>>60441864
Not him, but my toshiba drive has been doing well.

>>60441864
HGST or bust. Samsung for SSD

acer
seagate
HP Pavilions

Sony and Apple

>>60437240
>Vaccines cost 200k
what the fuck

>>60437704
>Toshiba
You won't need to worry about that, soon

>>60444904
If we're digging up the dead, Abit. I'm not glad that they're dead, but I'm glad that they're gone.

AMD. They always disappoint me.

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>>60457387

Asus
Samsung
Apple

amd. purely cus of the shills,
ducky cus they are dumbfucks,
msi due to tacky design,
remington arms due to abysmal qc and materials,
and cub cadet mowers because they are DESIGNED to give you two tons of shit.

>>60437196
razor

disgusting logo, it reeks of teenager with bad taste.

>Apple
I just hate them. That's all there is to it. Hate. Hate.
>Nvidia
They lied. They straight up lied about specifications and were found guilty of false advertising in a court of law. There's simply no going forward from there.
>Lenovo
>Xiaomi
>/csg/
一分钱,一分货

>>60458218
>tfw Remington used to be a trusted name
God damn Cerberus Jews.

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>>60437196
>intel
because they stopped releasing products worth buying even though they can and should, stringing people along with 5% increases while their desktop chips get generally shittier and their mobile chips are only good at the high end in the few products the come out in which are very expensive and probably throttle the shit anyways.

>nvidia
I don't dislike them as much as intel but they still do everything to keep people in an overpriced walled garden, employing anti-competative practices, trying to be the apple of GPUs

>AMD
waiting and not delivering (usually), not being honest about products before launch, overhyping, etc. still better than nvidia though

>MS
basically everything post windows 7. fucking up everything by being a wannabe apple, controlling, spying, NSA dicksucking, and generally shitty corporation who's product is people. they could just make better things, it wouldn't be that hard if they just went in that direction, but no, if you're not trying and failing to be apple and facebook on roids apparently there is no point. fuck windows, fuck dx12, fuck everything they do in gaming and fuck their accounts and store.

I don't avoid intel and MS totally, but I have stopped using all their newer products I don't like. I would accept a good mobile ship for a laptop, though a zen based on would be fine too.

>>60447873>>60447999
The less you buy overseas and the more you produce domestically the more the dollar is worth. In extreme case America will produce nothing and won't buy anything because dollar is only worth something if you can buy goods with it. It was very apparent in Russia when oil prices dropped, value of ruble halved and prices for a whole lot of products rised because of the dependency on the import in almost every sphere.
>mah global trading
The less good America produces the more the dollar value will deflate and less countires will use dollar.

You are deflating dollar with any foreign product purchase. There is no reason for producing generic goods overseas other than to accumulate wealth for people who are trading foreign goods, citizens or not. Believing in capitalism is almost as bad as believing in socialism - the mathematical requirements for ideal capitalism cannot be met, it will always require tuning such as antitrust legislature. Believing in that if you spent less dollars on foreign good means that it's good for country is retarded.

If somebody decides to buy Duck instead of 3M, it's fine. If everybody decide to buy Duck, 3M will stop being produced and trading balance will worsen.Tape example is not important but it is important with complicated expensive goods which are unique in a way and produced overseas.

You are probably imagining that if everyone buys same foreign thing cheaper everybody wins. You are ignoring capitalism if you do.

Corsair "screams gaymer + Linus "
MSI " same as above "
Sony "Probly the best picture but I think cameras and consoles"
Topres switches in general because of the sound not because I have used one

>>60437240
Do you people really expect companies to pay taxes when they don't have to? You should be blaming the tax laws for having the loopholes.

MSI I think chunky and gawdy
Samsung I think smooth but 90s smooth and totally missing aesthetics
HP chunky Hot lava pit
Acer I think dust trapper boxy office worker that wants to ends he's life
Dell I think overly complex rich gay man
Alienware I think bulky, hot, non laptop more like a mini space ship or car waxing machine.

>>60437196
>Asus
most of their products just scream chink gayman shit
they have some alright laptops, though

>Razer
same as Asus

>Samsung phones
apple wannabees with terrible support

>HP laptops
maybe it's just coincidence, but the ones I saw were poor quality

>>60459601
You are ignoring the complex relationships that exist in this world, the ruble probably lost value because they decided to print more money. And when you are already not trusted by investors to be faithful to a certain standard of "limited money supply", then your coin will lose value.

The value of the dollar is not dependent on the US alone nor it is it dependent on the 50 state market for its valuation, the US dollar is the currency of choice for all oil transactions in the world, it is the coin of reference or backup for any cross border transactions, so not only does it have a lot more to back up its status and value around the world it also has a privileged position in the world economy, add to that the fact that the US has never defaulted on its debts, the fact the FED decided to print trillions of dollars was ignored because investors believe and have full faith and credit on the US government, which with Trump current political climate, they are losing some of that faith and taking refuge in the japanese Yen.

The russian economy tanked because the entire country has the curse of having oil, and as long as prices are good you are flying in tall cotton, but you are also exposed to what will happen when prices drop, which is what happened in late 2014 with the commodities market crash.

The fact that all these things happened world wide, has actually very little to do with capitalism, the commodity market crash of 2014 for example was almost an entirely China unwillingly and unknowingly created and centrally planned crisis that had a domino effect on the Oil demand, a market which was being flooded by the US and Saudi Arabia. That drop in demand in the commodities market was foretold also by the sudden drop in price of Coal and Steel.

>mah global trading
as you put it, is more complicated than just buy more american shit instead of shit made overseas. It is not only impossibly to do what you suggest, you also would never be able to afford it.

HP and Acer for laptops. Huawei for phones. Can't think of anything else

>>60437679
>vw was a mistake
but my 30year old Passat still just werks

>>60460638
>30year old Passat
post car pucci

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>>60460638
meant to say 20, but I think it's older than that by now
Not mine, but looks exactly like it

>>60460638
Did you ever use it?

>>60460700
looks sweet. getting drivers license at a later age than most people. only issues im having are hill starts and noticing the signs I have ignored for so long as a pedestrian.

>instructor: why did you stop?
>me: I thought I seen a stop sign there, nevermind
>instructor: there was no stop sign there
>me: yeah i just expected one to be there

>>60460707
No, we keep it in the yard as a decoration

>>60437240

Your teachers get paid 20k?

What the fuck America??

>>60437196
Seagate
Western Digital
HP
Apple
Lenovo
NVIDIA
Acer
ASUS
Razer
Thermaltake
Toshiba
Huawei
Samsung
Alienware
MSI
Microsoft
Gigabyte
Dell
Google
Mozilla
Opera
Lennart Pottering
GNU

>>60437196
I do no longer use anything from Gigabyte.
Mostly, because everything i ever got from them was DOA. Therefore they lost my trust.
Maybe it was the retailers fault, but i ordered from different ones everytime.
People give Asus a lot of shit, but their stuff surprisingly always just werked for me. Might just be shills, but my friends also spout these memes.

When i don't have the cash, i use AsRock stuff, which never broke in my case atleast.

I don't use or try to avoid the usage of Apple stuff because of their ecosystem and for the same reason i am starting to leave the Microsoft sphere, but i still have to make backups before that.

>>60437725
Nice source you got there. Sad to see it's not reliable.

>>60438070
My family has been buying nothing but VW ever since the company started to exist.
It is mostly nationalism, even though they are the Luxotica of car manufacturers and almost nothing is produced in the homecountry anymore.
I'm going to get myself a BMW, in the next five years.

>>60437196
I always review all variants. Some brands simply never qualify.

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I completely avoid Corsair after nearly everything I bought from them was defective. People keep recommending me the Corsair k70 keyboard, but I refuse to give them any more money

>>60437196
Corsair. I think their budget cases are excellent quality for the price. I'll always recommend their budget cases for first time builders instead of some cheap chink crap which is difficult to work in. Other than that, I avoid all of their other products. I'm not sure why, but it just feels wrong.

MSI. Every motherboard I have bought from them have failed on me within a year or been DOA. I have several friends and coworkers who swear by them though, so perhaps I just have bad luck with their products.

How about brands you swear by but get shit on by everyone else?

For me, it would have to be Gigabyte. I have bought several motherboards and video cards from them and not once have they failed, or had problems. While their components kind of have a cheap, tacky looking gamer aesthetic to them that might put some people off, I believe they are great value for the cost, and from my experience they are reliable. I'm honestly not sure where the hate comes from; if anyone could inform me, it would be highly appreciated.

>>60437196

samsung

after they refused to update the note 4, i realised how scummy they were

the phone is completely capable of running the latest android, but the samsung kikes would rather i wait and buy the latest one before i get the upgrade

fuck that

A lot of 'gaymen' laptops suffer inferior thermal design. Take a look at the internals and look for reviews (notebookcheck.net and notebookreview forums.

>>60453291
You're telling me that if you were paid more it wouldn't entice you to do a better job?

>>60462340
No. Employee engagement is driven much more by nonmonetary factors. People quickly adapt to a new normal after getting a raise.

Also if you carry that argument to its conclusion, executives making millions of dollars should be doing excellent jobs, right?

>>60460595
>the ruble probably lost value because they decided to print more money.
Nope, ruble lost the value because the oil export was largely providing it's value. The loss of value was hardened because of import dependency. Learn Russia lesson, don't ignore trade balance. BTW Putin said that world economy would crash with oil<$80, it served him well.
>the US dollar is the currency of choice for all oil transactions in the world
It won't be the same if USA reduces domestic production too much and I have written it already. USD is not irreplacible currency.
USA performance is the only thing supporting the dollar, it has no gold equivalent.
> is more complicated than just buy more american shit instead of shit made overseas. It is not only impossibly to do what you suggest, you also would never be able to afford it.
1) If it is impossible to produce something in USA, I probably won't be able to afford it.
2) The dollar is only as valuable as well USA performs. There IS some inertion in markets but if USA drops trade balance too low dollar WILL be replaced. There is no abstract value in dollar, and even if there was, every financial pyramide comes to end.

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c++

Any Linux brand operating system because I think the Penhuin looks gay. I stick with Apple products