Fuck EU

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>>60417250
>And no awakening on horizon.
>tfw I voted Leave

>>60417268
UK sucks even more, there's no way for you to escape economical politics. Leave or stay: I can't say what's worse..

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>eurofugees
>>oh no we don't need guns the government would never do bad things

>eurofugees moments later
>>help us the government is doing bad things

>eurofugees
>>hate speech isn't free speech the government can ban what it wants

>also eurofugees
>>help us the government is banning things I like now

>>60417617
Guns won't solve that - just how delusional are you?

>>60417677
>literally lives in a dictatorship where unelected officials are banning free content on behalf of predator multinationals
>w-why would you e-ever n-need g-guns

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>>60417250
>copyright
>intellectual property
>non-free licenses
It's almost like someone has worked their entire life to warn people about this shit and nobody listened. Hmm.

>>60417788
yeah cause if we had guns (and could use them) we'd surely go and show those EU king merchants right?
no

So what possible reason do they have to make it unwaiveable? Why do they assume no one wants their work to spread for the sake of spreading their message?

>>60418008
You're right, we should just sit here and take it instead. That is a much more sensible solution.

>>60417250
hey, at least you got millions of africans and muslims to compensate for these shit laws, rite?

>>60417677
guns solve everything. and it keeps in check those in power.

enjoy further descent into a police state as more and more nutjobs drive your people over with trucks and shit and all you retards are unable to stop them because of your "libtard values".

tl;dr: eat shit and kys.

>>60419321
>Europe
>Guy with truck kills 3 people

>Murrica
>Guy with gun kills 50 people

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>>60420347
>>Guy with truck kills 3 people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack
87 (including the perpetrator)[2][3]

quit wasting time on 4chan. go back to studying arabic and praying to aloha.

>>60418258
Currenyly the police is only allowed to intervene if copyright holders request it. They want to change this so that streaming would be only legal if certain conditions are met, which should give police more room to operate in.

>>60417617
>clapistanian
>try to revolt
>if army is against you then they'll mow you down with superior equipment and tactics
>if army supports you then you don't need guns for anything

>>60420704
So a website streams freely licensed videos, for free, which the authors are 100% okay with them doing, and the police should intervene in this case? Who's being protected here? Who's asking for this?

>>60420704
>Currently the police is only allowed to intervene if copyright holders request it. They want to change this so that streaming would be only legal if certain conditions are met, which should give police more room to operate in.
So it'll turn into youtube take down notices, but with actual police. Wonderful.

>>60417268
>UK
>thinks he's better off
Hilarious.

>>60420978

Shouldn't that be "Hillaryous"?

>>60417250
How's shit like this even happening? Why aren't the people who stand to lose lobbying like mad?

>>60421015

They will lodge their protests from rooftops or behind the wheel.

>>60417250
I cannot wait until we abandon the current internet for a distributed non-centralized internet that cannot be controlled or monitored.

>>60418008
>we'd surely go and show those EU king merchants
Why not? There is no better way to empower your population.

>>60421015
The EU is not a democratic institution.

>>60419321
Funny you say that. The US is turning into a police State, too.

>>60421039

Or used. The ones in power will just block it.

>>60418008
Pretty sure that's how the US got its independence

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>read misleading title
>dont read the article
>spout bullshit

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE BEFORE YOU COMMENT, RETARDS

1. Member States shall ensure that, when authors and performers transfer or assign the right of making available to the public of their works or other subject-matter for online on-demand services, they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration derived from the direct exploitation of their works present in the catalogue of those services.

2. The right of an author or performer to obtain fair remuneration for the making available of his/her work as described in paragraph 1 cannot be waived.

It literally just says that the author always retains the rights to monetize their work, regardless of license. How does this change anything?

>>60421262
>Cannot be waived
What part of this do you not understand? It straight up tries to invalidate commons licenses.

>>60421262
>release something under a license to everyone permitting them to share it freely
>streaming sites can't share it freely without paying anyway, even if you don't want to collect a cent
>streaming sites don't share it

>>60419321
Why aren't Americans using their guns to keep their politicians in check?
>But Trump is acting how I want him to
How about during the Obama years then, assuming you disliked what he was doing? There was plenty to be displeased with when he was around anyway, even if you liked him.

Just admit it, you don't want guns because they'll keep others in their place. You just want them because they look cool and you like firing them, and not a whole lot more.

>>60421407
during obongo years, americans bought millions upon millions of guns. they were too scared to fuck with gun owners after that.

stay cucked, mohammed.

>>60421407
Guns only show up in political situations when people feel their issue cannot be solved peaceably through the system, it's not about chimping out every time there's a political disagreement you fucking subhuman.

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>>60417250

>>60421490
>not knowing about deterrence theory
you brought this on yourself

>>60417250
No fuck EU!

>>60421497
I'd just like to interject for a moment. You appear to be using an element from this image in your post: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Richard_Stallman_by_Anders_Brenna_01.jpg
You may have done this accidentally, but you've violated the terms of its copyright license. This is a serious offense and I hope you take it as seriously as it deserves.
Not to say that you're not allowed to create derived works from this image, you are, but this picture is released under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Norway license. Therefor, you are free:

to share - to copy, distribute and transmit the work;
to remix - to adapt the work;

Under the following condition:

attribution - You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

In this case, the attribution requirement is resolved simply by including the following in your post:

Anders Brenna [CC BY 3.0 no (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/no/deed.en)], via Wikimedia Commons

Now that you have read this, I hope you have a better understanding of your rights and obligations when remixing and sharing this work. They will let you edit, now be nice and credit~

>>60421834
The future is horrible

Is it true that a free Kekistan is not in the interest of the United States and/or Israel? Would an unironical declaration of independence result in "bringing democracy" to Kekistan by one of the usual methods?

>>60421919
underageb8

>>60417250
This is at least as bad:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/11/users-around-world-reject-europes-upload-filtering-proposal

If they push stuff like this through, it's time to go rogue forreals.

>>60417250
Artist should get paid for their work faggot

>>60422594
They should take it up with the distributors who are jewing them out of their money.

So it's about abolishing "fair use"?

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>>60417250
The revolution cannot come soon enough.

>>60420704
>army is against the people
>usa
Try again. Ex armyfags usually just join buttsex militias

>>60417250
Stallmab, we gnu-eed you

>>60417250
The West is a cesspool. Learn to speak Russian. It's a developing country with a lot of potential.

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>>60417268
>meanwhile in the islamic caliphate of bongistan

>>60417966
Normies never listen. B-but h-he eats stuff from his feet!

WAKE ME UP

>>60423216
> >20% of muslims
>a lot of potential

How is Russia going to cope with islamization? Birth rates of ethnic Russians are low as fuck, they don't want to join the army and pay not to, while muslims living in Russia do the opposite, they will pay to join the army. How is this going to end well?

>>60417303
>>60420978
>>60423318
>UK is even worse
I dont think any of you understand the problem with this
In the UK, we have a democracy. If a government where to introduce this, they could be voted out in favour of a government who will scrap those laws
The EU has no such democracy

>>60421916
You meant current state of things is horrible.

>>60423691
>Theresa May
>unelected
Yeah.

>>60417250
>posts the supposed results without posting the proposal
Yeah, nice clickbait you shill
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>60423730
>unelected
Have you been living under a rock?
We're having an election in under a month mate

>>60423745
So when she was pm she was elected or have any mandate other than ignorance of people?

>>60423733
On pol I would have to praise that shit, you know, swamp ego plays. They love it, I hate it.

>>60423752
It doesnt matter when she was PM. There's an election coming up, you cant call her unelected when she's calling an election

>>60423772
I can call her election caller, but not elected when she was making descisions without any proper mandate.

>>60423794
Which she is now getting by calling a fucking election

>>60423733
>>60423766
I know clicking links is hard, so here, I'll spoon feed you.
http://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Directive.pdf

>>60423691
>If a government where to introduce this, they could be voted out in favour
No, they would not. UK is a country full of sheep, remember when they introduced the anti-loli law? Or maybe the law that puts you 10 years to jail if you torrent? Or the law that allows them to put you to jail if you have anything that they consider as encrypted and you don't supply them with a key?

>>60423841
>They wouldnt vote for this
>remember, the UK dont like pedo's
Whats your point?

>>60423691
The EU parliament is elected.

>>60423854
That you should kill yourself after you pray to Allah for the health of the queen?

>Member States shall ensure that, when authors and performers transfer or assign the right of making available to the public of their works or other subject-matter for online on-demand services, they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration derived from the direct exploitation of their works present in the catalogue of those services.

Literally nothing.
All it says is that artists should have a way to make money from their work if they choose.

As a yuropean actually I think everyone should be legally -required- to have a gun.

>>60423945
You are retarded.

>>60423938
They can't choose.

>>60423961
>they retain the right to obtain fair remuneration
I have the right to eat pineapples every day but I don't have to exercise it.

>>60423945
>required
You are no other than those assholes up ass.

>>60417250
>will face higher expenses and will no longer be able to operate non-commercially even if they only carry freely licensed content.

What the actual fuck eu?

>>60423979
>>60423945
I'm sorry but I think that if everyone has a gun, babies will be able to defend themselves against crazy moms.

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>>60423975
You MUST those PINNACLES REEEEEEE¡

>>60421834
You know, it'd be nice if that kinda stuff could be embedded into files. The end user doesn't need to know about the licenses and attributions, it gets attributed just by existinh, and those interested could fond out easily. Just like with a porn artist signing their work ensures you don't need to provide sauce because it's already there

>>60424137
Metadata can easily be stripped.

>>60423691

Just how Londoners votes a kebab as mayor

>>60423683
>How will Russia deal with islamization
Never in Russian history have there been problematic minorities, or classes, that have been problematic to the authority. How ever will they pull through? I guess they could come up with some kind of a 5-year plan to handle the situation.

>>60421262
By licensing something under the CC-BY license basically you waive your rights to seek compensation from licensees as long as they adhere to the requirements of the license.

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>>60417268
>>60417303
>hey we can spy on anyone but not on us politicans ok!!!!!!!!


>>60417250
Is that means that spotify will be more expensive??

>>60417250
> Wtf is this?
The to-be-expected continued lobbying of the copyright mafia.

This was attempted multiple times before and has partly succeeded because ultimately, EU representatives do not seem to be looking out for the people but seem quite subjective to professional lobbyists from "their" or the EU industry. They even put them in committees that prepare proposals like this.

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>tfw your country was free from all this bullshit
>tfw they begged to enter the EU because they've been absolute cucks for the last ~500 years

>>60425156
Having EU market and Schengen and academic access and so on is nice. Your country probably wants that?

>>60425204
And the EU welfare money, the eastern balkan trash lives off on that even tho their politicians pocket 80% of it

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>>60417268
>>60423745
>>60423772
>>60423805

LMAOing @ these peasants.
t. GCHQ

>>60425236
I guess that's part of it, too?

But I think at most ~0.5% of GDP is paid by any EU nation, though I guess on the receiving end it may be 5% of GDP it's probably not what Eastern Europe really wants.

They'd kinda like to have 100% of the paying nation's GDP, and obviously not as welfare money but just as their GDP. And for that, they will almost certainly need the market access to trade.

>>60425204
what >>60425236 said, what's the point of it if it's barely used
it isn't getting any better

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>>60417250
This jewish fuckpile EU conglomerate needs to die in a fire.
Fuck those globalist kikes.

>>60417677

>killing tyrants won't solve anything

Right, because all these tyrannical measures fall out of thin fucking air and implement themselves.

>>60421262
That actually sounds good.

>>60420787
>Who's being protected here?

Nobody, they just need excuses to suppress free speech.

I hope those mesh nets are ready, we're going to need them.

Actually on second thought this just means that you are still free to let people use your works, bit at any time you have the right to ask for compensation if you feel like doing so.

This just means if your release something under GPL you cannot revoke your decision if you regret it, but with the new system you may change your mind and ask money either way.

For example you could choose to request a compensation of 0$.

>>60426232
This poses an even more interesting question, this law is actually to protect the people NOT corporations.

Since a company cannot give me a contract anymore where they force me to sign that I give up all my copyright related right so they can profit of it with more shekels.

Even better if they ever fire me and I wrote a lot of code for example I could demand fair compensation for the amount of code I have written. Or sue them if they are not willing to do so. They would have to rewrite a large of the code if they wanted to do so.

I believe there are also lower taxes in profits brought in by copyright.

>>60426321
Jeezes Christ this law has huge consequences. It would mean that a company is not owned anymore by one Shlomo Shekelberg but by anybody who gave creative input for said company.

This is just going to legitimise piracy again.
I don't see the issue.

>>60417268
You voted for taxation without representation. You still need to follow EU regulations when doing business with them.

>>60417250
>This proposal has come from the Committee on Culture and Education (CULT).
(((They're))) not even hiding it anymore

>>60421347

The CAN share it freely.

You can still make your stuff freely available. But if at some point you decide to monetize it, you can monetize it from that point on.

Nobody is forcing anyone to pay anything.

This literally doesn't change anything, apart from protecting creators from being fucked over by 50-page license agreements on shady sites.

>>60426232
>>60426321
>>60426471
I'm pretty sure your company rather than yourself is considered autor of any work you do while working for them, and that you are not entitled to any copyright or intellectual property stuff this way unless you worked on a subject unrelated to your job using your personnal tools outside of your working hours
at least for code

>>60417268
I voted Remain because I know that leaving the EU won't magically kick the sandniggers out.

>>60417250
>trusting the >eff

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>everyone on the CULT members list is a socialist
Thought they were supposed to fight the corporations and stuff, maaaaaan

>>60426620
Generally depends on the contract.
Pretty sure that for code, any code you do for work is owned by the company. Though there is some question about if you do code in your free time and then implement that code into a company project if you would lose your copyright ownership. It probably would be the case.

Pretty sure, though, for cases like musicians the company (label/publisher) is a joint copyright holder. So if they find a way to increase their profits off your work without giving you any more money that would be stopped under the new proposed laws.

>>60418997
So you're saying you would commit murder over a copyright law? And moreover you think your shooting someone would lead the EU to reverse it's legislation?

Or are you still talking about some hypothetical future where the armed populace rises up and saves itself from Hitler 2.0

cant we just kill them or something

>>60423824
Not the point
Point is that first and foremost you tried to scare us instead of convince us

>>60426584
reddit-pol fuck off

>>60426616
>hey you know that free video I put out there years ago that went viral on your site, netting millions of views for you?
>even though I made it available under a CC BY license meaning you don't have to pay a thing, now I can compel you to pay me for each view or shut down
Or even more likely:
>hey you know that free video my family member made before they passed away and I now have the rights to it?
>because I'm a greedy jew I want you to pay me my family member's fair share or shut down
It's a liability. There's a reason people use CC licenses instead of just using a blanket "sure, go ahead and use it:" it GUARANTEES that everyone will be able to share freely without haing to worry.

>>60427300
lurk more

>>60427877
Yes while it does protect private individuals it also gives them quite a bit of power over when it comes to abusing it.

But including any exception in this would make the whole law moot since anybody would just try to conform to the exception.

>>60428463
This law assumes that people would only give up their right to "fair renumeration" if they didn't know any better or were otherwise forced to by a publisher. For those of us who give it up knowing full well what the consequences are and in fact consider the act of sharing their works to be all the "renumeration" we need, this law is taking that away.

>>60417250
When will EU burn in hell? Fuck
t. yuropoor

>>60423752
>t. moron with no understanding of parliamentary democracy

>>60417268
Thanks for the new positions in Belgium. Just in time.

>>60426616
>cannot be waived

>>60424993
>Never in Russian history have there been problematic minorities, or classes, that have been problematic to the authority.
Yes, because they killed or bribed. What a great nation. It's like the new Roman Empire.

>>60417250
>may cause creators and fans to shift back to peer to peer file sharing
How is that a bad thing? :^)