What was Soviet computer technology like during the cold war

>>60412333
They just copied American technology. It's really aesthetic some of it but it was literally just reverse engineered American tech.
I've also been looking for some old soviet science books as they apparently taught marxist thought together with physics, chemistry and mathematics. It's very interesting.

>trying to achieve an utopia through terror
VERY good ideas there lad

>>60412333
Well they made Tetris so that's something...

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We went into space before the West. First man in space, first woman in space, first satellite in space etc.

West = WEAK

i'm not sure but i think their computer were tertiary (aka using 0,1 and 2 instead of just 0 and 1 like binary system)

>>60412827
ternary*
my bad

>>60412333
Tetris was their greatest achievement

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>>60412863
>Tetris was their greatest achievement

Wrong

>>60412382
fpbp

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A bit behind the west (around 5 years) mostly due to differences in material sciences. The west had a massive head start in this field because they had a head start on industrialization and didn't have to rebuild after WW2. Soviet engineers were brilliant.

Copied decade old western crap with questionable reliability and imported japanese ram.

>>60412333
Slightly obsolete, computers were not as vital as it is today though.
There must have been some espionage fuck up with all theses non-standardized floppy disks.

>>60413129
>The west had a massive head start in this field because they had a head start on industrialization
More like embargo on high-tech stuff and shortage on almost everything.

>>60413129
soviet engineering was legendarily bad. Building an airplane engine during WW2 took 5 times as many man hours in the USSR than it did in the USA

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>>60413277

I wish the soviet union survived as a social democratic union

>>60413277
engineering != manufacturing

>>60413342
That's what they are right now. Powerful omnipresent socialist government but democratic one as well.

>>60413333
Still won the war. Sadly.

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>>60413277

USSR WON WORLD WAR 2 SO SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE SHIT

>>60413403

Lol spot the drumpf supporter.

Your nazi orange clown is getting impeached soon so enjoy it while it lasts.

>>60412382

made weird hyrdaulic and trinary arches early on, later copied ibm in late 70s, stole borland and microsoft technology in latter days

>>60413495
Nobody won ww2.

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thread theme:
https://soundcloud.com/novosti-kulturi/novosti-kulturi-quartz

utter trash. imagine american technology, but 10-20 years older for its time
>>60412827
only one
and anything after that period were just clones of american stuff

>>60412576
Those are like taking pawns. Remembet that the moon that rises over your head every night is a red white and blue moon.

>>60413586
The US did.
Through advanced kikery, they established their power on the ashes of old empires.
And then Russia and the US fucked up the world for the century to come.

>>60412333
Post WWII tech was literally Nazi tech made by the captured Nazi engineers.

USA captured more scientists but the Soviets had amazing reverse engineering skills and didn't depended on private corporations, which made 100% of the countries resources available for whichever grand project they wanted

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>>60413586
>Nobody won ww2.

USSR WON WORLD WAR TWO

>>60412333
They invented trinary

>>60413586
jews won ww2

>>60413576

Something like 30% of Microsoft products are made by Russians.

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>>60412576
>>60413632

>the piece of land i was born on is better because people way smarter than me did stuff there before i was born

why are nationalists so stupid

>>60413725
The other 70% is made by Indians

>>60413277
This may sound retarded, but commies in general chose things more complicated to manufacture. Why? So people has something to work on. Everyone has to work.
In Poland in the 70s they made some revolutionary minicomputer 10 years ahead of first IBM PCs. But the commies didn't allow it. Why? Because it was too simple. It required less time and less people to develop it, than other computers. In the capitalistic world it is the opposite, isn't it?

That said, commies made AK, simple, reliable, cheap and working assault rifle.

>>60413553
>Impeached
How long until you see through your self delusions. Also, go back to Pol with this worthless rhetoric.

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>>60413692
>making german leaders issue capitulation for the second time - a day late - just so you can feel like a bigboy and divert attention from that you sent 30 million men to their death

lel commies

>>60412827
They tried, but it was unreliable because of the way that bits were passed. i.e. 0=nothing 1=half voltage 2=full voltage

Electronics still aren't precise enough (at least for consumers) to do that reliably.

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>>60413632

Don't stare too much at the moon, anon

>60412333

Surprisingly high tech! Initially, the Soviets had home grown computers. They were the first adopters of Trinary logic.

However, seeing America focus so heavily on binary computing, the politicians insisted they ditch home grown efforts into computing and insisted they by and large copied American ISAs and systems to have an upper edge in cyber warfare.

Interesting fact: the most popular computers in the Soviet Union were based off of the PDP-11. The Soviets were able to size down the TTL PDP-11 CPU into a single chip package without sacrificing capability and compatibility, something that DEC themselves were never able to do.

>>60412576
So weak they collapsed instead of having an economic boom...

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USSR made the best cameras and lenses in the world after WWII because they took all the machinery from Germany to Russia and Ukraine to manufacture lenses and copies of Leica cameras. The camera and lens factories were staffed by the thousands of orphan children left without parents after Russia lost 1/4 of their population in WWII.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FED_(camera)

In the united states of america, they reserve the right to bear arms
in soviet Russia, they reserve the right to arm bears

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Always remember

>>60413277
>Building an airplane engine during WW2 took 5 times as many man hours in the USSR than it did in the USA

That's because they were being shot at from one side by the Germans, and shot at by the KGB for not working fast enough, and they had to relocate to the Ural mountains under order from Stalin.

The average American would be bitching on his tumblr about trigger warnings three words into that sentence; those fuckers went and built a plane regardless.

>>60413553
Better a Nazi than a SJW.

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>>60412333
If the commercial electronic is any indicator, then it was as >>60412382 said. You can look up this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronika

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In American fantasy movies: Brave American soldiers rescue Jews from Auschwitz

In reality: Russian soldiers liberated Auschwitz

Why do American movies always lie?

@60413796
>and divert attention from that you sent 30 million men to their death
You know what?
Americans weren't occupied by Germans for three years.
In the Russia, people got to fight for their lives, for their homes. There were many deaths - and those deaths let Russians live further.
Americans never knew what's a real war, they were never conquered.
So shut the fuck up and never appear ITT in this thread again.

>>60413665
>Soviets had amazing reverse engineering skills and didn't depended on private corporations, which made 100% of the countries resources available for whichever grand project they wanted

This. The downside was that they had to work on the whim of political commissars, and anyone pointing out that a project will not work would get sent to gulag. It's why they lost the race to the moon - whoever was the soviet premiere at the time wanted a launch on one of their anniversary dates, and it was just impossible to get shit done by that time.

>>60413713
This is correct. They got a real life event to go with their boogeyman event, and they guilt tripped the rest of the world over it so hard, that they were given an entire country.

>>60413050
Why are those written in capitalist? Did the person who put them there get sent to a gulag?

>>60413880
lol
upvoted

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>>60414017

THIS

>>60413993
Nazi were the OG SJW.

>>60412382
Yeah old soviet books are great. I'm from an old commie state and their old chem/physics/ maths problem books are still highly sought after because they had difficult problems, seeing as they actually cared about education. Also our based teacher gave our advanced students soviet textbooks that had pages ripped out because he wasn't allowed to give out material praising Lenin and communism.

>>60414017
reminds me of a story about when they won the war. When the news came that Germany surrendered, it was impossible to buy a bottle of Vodka in all of the soviet union. In celebration of the news, they drank it all, in the entire country.

>>60413277
>soviet engineers were bad
first satellite
first man in space
fully automated unmanned space shuttle
first nuclear power station
Cherenkov detector
pressure suit
flying wing
aerial refueling
LED
kinescope
unmanned teletank
modern ship hull
electic spacecraft propulsion
hepergolic propellant
hyperbaric welding
tandem rotors
drag shute
first mass produced helicopter
multistage rocket
microtron
EPR
maksutov telescope
carbon nanotubes
nuclea
ballistic missile submarine
fast neutron reactor
intercontinental ballistic missile
nuclear ice breaker
space probe
synchrophasotron
ternary computer
space capsule
space suit
stealth technology
kaspian monster

The list goes on and on, you uneducated shithead with propaganda instead of brain. Soviet engineers, mathematicians, doctors and physicist were among the best in the world. Soviets were first in space and first in nuclear energy. U.S. only way to compete was to bring scientists from all over the world: germany, israel, britain, poland, USSR itself. And soviets did all by themselves.

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>>60413993

You need a wakeup call faggot

>>60414239
Do you have to attack the US like that
Why can't we agree that everyone had great engineers and scientists at some point

>>60414002
I had that game as a kid but the version where you must defend the Earth from meteors.

>>60414239
>And soviets did all by themselves.
Of course. Socialism is the science of tomorrow.

>>60414274
>>60414280
I am saying the truth. USSR was not an attractive place and people run from it. Nobody went to USSR to do science.
U.S. on the other hand attracted shittone of scientist from all over the globe, including USSR. US space program is based on germans. Helicopters on polish. Stealth technology on soviets. US was the place most scientists wanted to go because US payed them a lot.
And still Soviets were able to stay the best in many areas.

>>60413277

Also noteworth that the mainstay engines of the soviets during the war were essentially a tweaked french v-12 and an american radial

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can we please stop this /pol/-tier argument
and just post comfy soviet technology

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>>60414350
>Stealth technology on soviets.
>space prgram based on germans
>helicopters froms poles

Love these memes, this is some top history channel type shit

>>60414408
>MUH U S A WE DID IT OURSELVES LAND OF THE FREE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Ufimtsev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_aerospace_engineers_in_the_United_States

Based on your post it seems like americans learning from TV is not a meme

>>60414408
Space program itself may not have been based on German tech, but they got Von Braun and many other rocket scientists. The Saturn V rocket that flied to the moon is the grandchild of the V2 rockets that bombed London.

Not sure about the Stealth program, but the Nazis did indeed have experimental jet aircraft that had reduced Radar visibility. I think that may just have been a side effect of their general design however, not an intended design goal. It was one of those Horten planes.

don't know anything about copters.

>>60413495
Wrong, Jews won

>>60412333
I know this good, zx spectrum & commodore 64(more spectrum) were tops what they alone could develop/(without any outside tech).
But, since they used it rudimentary for weapons, they didn't care too much.
Since freedom of speech was not their prime concern , they didn't care for internet beyond catching up purely on warfare/spy bullshit level.
They were more concerned for space programs, because piss contest with USA .
In ex Yugoslavia there was Orao (eagle), it was Yugo of computers(maybe as strong as zx spectrum in times when Amiga 1200 was mainstream),
but people(since there was no iron curtain, it was more or less lite-communism there) were on par with world, everything was imported so no one felt like they lived in middle ages or something.

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>>60412333
The OG Chinese bootleg stuff.
A good example is the Concorde and the Tu 144.

>>60414002

That's Japanese technology, not American

>>60412333
not good, look up "Brain drain"

this is what the chinese think of SJW's
>>60414269

白左 (baizou, "white left") is used generally to describe those who “only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT and the environment” and “have no sense of real problems in the real world”; they are hypocritical humanitarians who advocate for peace and equality only to “satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority”; they are “obsessed with political correctness” to the extent that they “tolerate backwards Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism”; they believe in the welfare state that “benefits only the idle and the free riders”; they are the “ignorant and arrogant westerners” who “pity the rest of the world and think they are saviours”.

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OK, leeme present you this baby.
Orao or Eagle ,8 bit monster from 1984, beautiful 2 colors monitor.
I know everyone used c64 then, so I really don't know why they made this(they could literally assemble c64 because no one cared for IP then).

>>60412333
>>>/his/

>>60414760
Tu came first. Fuck off

>>60413633
>established their power on the ashes of old empires
So just japan then right? Japan, germany and the USSR all experienced economic miracles though, it's pretty embarrassing those who 'lost' could rebuild their entire economy into superpowers faster than those who won.

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And, this is probably rarest computer on earth.
Ivel Ultra, compatible (read: copied from) apple II, it even had its own OS, IOS :).

>>60413495
Read: don't insult gommunism because I am an audistic little bitch that needs muh safe space wherever I go, including the internet

>>60415132
No.
Commies sent spies in France to steal plans and built a half-assed version faster.
Thing is, it was garbage and no match for the Concorde.
Even the US never managed to make anything like that.

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>Soviet technology thread
>Insecure Americans come shit it up

>>60413796
>all that death camps
>every single living thing was shot on sight in their march to berlim

>>60414004
By liberated you mean killed most of them?

>>60415287
Wrong on all fronts

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>>60414408
You going to say that you invented the air plane too?

>>60413495
The Bolsheviks did, wich is just a branch of Judea.

>>60414164
(member ripping-pages totalitarian-state)
t

>>60412576
>ussr was first into space
>what is the X-15

>>60415287
Well, you showed with your post how stupid you are but I decided to give you a small hint anyway:
Concorde design was flawed, which resulted in the famous incident. Tu144 didn't have that flaw in engine placement because soviet engineers weren't stupid surrender monkeys.

>>60416880
Oh wow, another low iq american that was taught history through propaganda and tv shows

>>60417072
The engines were British made Rolls Royce engines.
And everyone knows Boeing was assblasted about the concorde and still is today about Airbus.
I wonder how a boeing part could conveniently end on the landing strip ;^)

>>60412333
Russia is so far behind America in computer technology that even today their most modern systems are running on vacuum tubes.

>>60417151
I'll add, prior to that "accident"( not even a problem on the plane's end), it had 40 years of flawless service.

>>60412576
>first woman in space
>sending women into space
>not into the kitchen
Cucks.

>>60417237
Yet so far the US sent times more women into space than Russia.

>>60414072
at that point they'd given up and started teaching them english so they can read instruction manuals and computer magazines

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>>60414002
Jesus fuck
They literally named it "Game for screen"

Read this OP
http://www.sigcis.org/files/SIGCISMC2010_001.pdf

>>60413743
>City dwelling liberals are so disconnected with human nature, they don't even realize that the land shapes the man.

What, you thought it was a coincidence that all you concrete jungle monkeys are limp wristed girly boys who want foreign men to invade your country?

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>>60413553
Wtf spot the triggered cuck

>>60417370
More like game on a screen

>>60412333
just reverse engineering western tech see soviets reverse engineering a vcr

>>60415517

by killed you mean de-loused their clothing and built them a swimming pool to enjoy. until allies bombed the supply lines..

>>60414390
>tfw no qt computer tugging soviet waifu

>>60413397
They do not exist

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>>60417427
Oh yeah, "na"

I thought only Yugoslavs were this creative with names

Also, what does the elektronika" refer to?
Is it the name of the system or producer or something? i have no clue.

Oh and the game system has a fucking alarm clock toplel

>>60417377
I'm country born and raised. I've lived off the land. Nationalists are fucking retarded.

>>60414674
>Space program itself may not have been based on German tech, but they got Von Braun and many other rocket scientists. The Saturn V rocket that flied to the moon is the grandchild of the V2 rockets that bombed London.

Operation paperclip took approximately 2500 germans, most of whom had returned to germany by 1960.

The soviets by contrast had nearly 10000 german engineers and scientists brought to the ussr, and they could only return to east germany.

>Not sure about the Stealth program, but the Nazis did indeed have experimental jet aircraft that had reduced Radar visibility. I think that may just have been a side effect of their general design however, not an intended design goal. It was one of those Horten planes.

Pure myth propagated by David Myhra and his ilk.

Also the US and Britian were both developing RAM for aircraft and other applications during WW2. That is the origin of the salisbury screen that was fitted to the U2 and B-47s.

>>60415562

Not even the french claim Dumont invented the airplane

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>>60413970
>The average American would be bitching on his tumblr about trigger warnings three words into that sentence; those fuckers went and built a plane regardless.

That's cute, honey.
Hope you enjoyed that $11.3 billion (>$150 billion 2017 equivalent) worth of equipment that pulled you through the war.
No need to thank us.

>>60417824
>Also, what does the elektronika" refer to?
Is it the name of the system or producer or something? i have no clue.
Name of the series of various electronic devices. Calculators, computers, etc.

>>60417909
Bullshit

>>60412576
>first man in space

Yuri Gagarin was 5'2. 28 days after he went to space America put Alan Shepard up there, and he was a respectable (for that time) 5'11

>>60417824
>Also, what does the elektronika" refer to?

It means "electronics".
Commies weren't very creative (or sane) when naming companies or product lines.
They saw no need to come up with an actual name for a company manufacturing electronics, since according to their worldview, there is no sense in more than one of such companies existing in the first place, with it being state-owned.

>build a cannery/distillery complex
>name it "preservatories and distilleries, state concern of science/technology and business services"

t. former commie state inhabitant

>>60417985
They have pioneered many other fields, they don't need to cling on one for relevance.

>>60418408
I live in Miami and we have a lot of Cubans here, awhile back I went to some store that was aimed at Cubans and they had a big sign saying how they were selling "carne rusa" meaning Russian meat and they had the most generic as fuck looking cans of meat. I should have known this was some commie thing.

>>60418366
>Yuri Gagarin was 5'2. 28 days after he went to space America put Alan Shepard up there, and he was a respectable (for that time) 5'11
Gargarin orbited the Earth.
Shepard went straight up and down again. He dipped his toe in the water while Gargarin swam a dozen laps.
It was Gargarin's small stature (he was a fighter pilot BTW) that made it easier on the capsule designers. Probably why they were able to do all those orbits.

imagine the genius of soviet engineers with the production capacity of modern chinks
i want to live in that timeline

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>>60417107
>the X-15 was propaganda and tv shows

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>>60417291
>Yet so far the US sent times more women into space than Russia.
>the US sent times more women
>times more women

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>>60418807
That's communism for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOBFMMbUFI8

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>>60414130
>So shut the fuck up and never appear ITT in this thread again.
>never appear ITT in this thread
>never appear in this thread in this thread

>>60413755
>commies don't like simple and effective
>commies make most simple and effective guns of all time

Which is it? Instead of making something complex to create busy work, just make more of something simple. Or do the superior thing and shorten the work day.

Let's agree that the Cold War caused an enormous amount of innovated designs and incredible engineering from BOTH sides. If we didn't have WW2 & Cold War, I highly doubt our current tech would be as advanced as it is today.

Soviet Union computer tech was behind US, for various reasons. Soviet leaders were very scared of computers and networks, also by 80s most of them were old farts who didn't understand the technology at all.

>>60418366
kys insecure fag

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>>60412576
cough cough

>>60417107
are you really this retarded? Asking as a non-american

>>60414350
The United States is a country of immigrants, to say that we did nothing "by ourselves" is wrong, the fact is that we constantly create progressive technologies. I would give you a list, but it would take lots and lots of space. Overall, the US outranks in Russia in every way except perhaps nuclear weapons.

>>60419507
>Wah wah wah lets all kiss and make up

you can't end fights like this, you fucking faggot

>>60412333
>ywn live in a country/time where the boot noises for every computer played chiptune folk music

>>60417956
>Pure myth propagated by David Myhra and his ilk.

eeeh, no, that german plane DID exist, but it was one of their jet prototypes, if it ever had anti-radar design that was most likely a pure coincidence.

The USSR was actually ahead of the west with respect to computer technology, at least for a time. They were trying to use computers to enhance central planning techniques but were consistently hampered by the bureaucracy which saw computerization as a threat to their grip on power.

>>60412333
We could have had a weird/nostalgic alternate reality tech thread from a completely vanished political world.

Instead we get another gazillion jingoist muh freedoms shitposts with absolutely no content.

Why are americucks so fucking insecure that this shit internet machismo has to be all over the place?

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/a4_team_moscow.html

they had an even larger German bootstrap than the U.S.

>>60414239
without russian physicists/chemists, CPUs wouldn't be the microscopic things they are, or at least it would have taken a lot of time to get them in the current status...

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>>60413993
haha the fucking lack of self awareness
this is your brain on idpol

>>60420244
Blame the redditors on /pol/. They have ruined everything.

>>60414239
>and soviets did it all by themselves
except ussr also took german scientists, just as usa, and their fast development of eg atomic bomb was possible due to having spies in usa or scientist running to ussr (eg Pontecorvo)
so no, it was not all just pure soviet miracle

>>60414239
>soviet space program
They could have climbed up to the moon faster if they just stacked the bodies from their failed flights

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>>60419159
You faggot

>>60417377
>land shapes the man
Culture shapes the man.

>>60414017
This probably explains the high number of German women who were raped by Russian soldiers, you mongoloid

>>60413743
>what is NKVD
>what is massacre of kulaks (just released from serfdom decades earlier)
>what is restricted emmigration
>what is testimonial lead gulag sentences
>what is equality of outcome
>what is rationing
>what is confiscation for the better 'collective'
>what is proletariatet dictatorship that was actually worse than the Tsar Reign
Kys & 14/88

>>60423536
Kulaks deserved it for using proprietary grain.

>>60413379
Good engineering leads to good manufacturing.

Ikea has been engineered so even basement neets can assemble it.

Making a product so difficult that it can't be assembled is not good engineering, and won't get you far in a capitalists society.

Russia started new tech manufacturing and research recently what can g tell me about it

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>>60412382
>>60412333
It was mostly bought GE computers in the 60s.
Then some local made stuff and common desktops later on. And Swedish server room floors of course.

Much like North korea now. Mostly last gen stuff but not way behind or anything.

Still have pic related in attic somewhere.

Why didn't they pour all their resources into building a supercomputer to do all their central planning for them?
>tfw born to early to experience AI planned communism

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>>60412333
Having lived in the Soviet Union and as a non-Russian (so no "muh-we-won-ww2" delusions):
Everything was shit, underengineered, power-hungry, inefficient trash. Everything that was remotely (very remotely) comparable to west-tech was a knockoff of something produced in the west 30 years earlier.

Truly dark-times, the only people who reminisce fondly about Soviet Union are russians with limited access to education and money. The elite know perfectly well what kind of shithole it was.

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>>60414756

More ex-yu stuff.

Iskra Delta was biggest manufacturer.

>>60412576
>When you go to space, but most of the people are starving

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>>60423960

VAX compatibile mini - Iskra Gemini

Do you want to know more?

https://books.google.hr/books?id=XDKQ3CXwl6oC&lpg=PT111&ots=qwR4D1RpUx&dq=iskra%20gemini%20VAX&pg=PT61#v=onepage&q&f=false

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>>60415218
>Ivel Ultra

http://www.njuskalo.hr/informatika-sve-ostalo/ivel-ultra-retro-racunalo-oglas-12689664

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>commie tech thread
>90% of thread is political bitching
>10% actual pictures and interesting info

4chan really is populated by americans...

Here's the Elektronika BK series, 32kb RAM, 16bit CPU, PDP-11 compatible

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>>60415218

I raise you the Пълдин-601 - a bulgarian computer that's not a clone of anything, uses it's own operating system that looks like MS-DOS, is file-compatible with MS-DOS, but is actually built from scratch for the Motorola 6800 CPU and is not DOS at all. Also has a weird membrane keyboard that worked poorly.

tfw nobody mentions greatest polish computer achievement during soviet era - K-202

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-202

if it wasn't for soviets you people would remember this and not IBM

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>>60425001
forgot the photo

>>60418064
> No need to thank us.
Ofc there's no need to thank a seller when you give him money for his goods.

>>60425097
>implying the USSR/Russia ever repaid us in full

Protip: if you take $100 in 1941 and finish returning $75 in 2006, it doesn't exactly do the trick.

>>60412576
>appppppяя

>>60413495
>>>/leftypol/

>>60425289

What do you care, it's not like you're industrialist or company owner.

Will never understand american "we" mentality since there is very clear and obvious divide between owners and wage earners there.

>>60423838
Because cybernetics is a capitalist whore.

>>60412333
Yugoslavia communism = best commie.
I remember walking into my grandpas office when I was 6 (he was a boss a huge outpost of the national telecommunications company). Two applel workstations on a side desk and a IBM business PC on the main desk. They had a IBM mainframe in the white room alongside all the switchers in the room next to it. One of his colleagues let me play prince of Persia on his machine. Shit was cash.

>>60423557
>AbsolutelyProprietary.jpg
REEEEE++

>>60425836

Yugoslavia always had a really weird boner for IT.
But this thread is about technology they came up with, not technology they bought from the West, so it doesn't really count.

>>60412333
Soviet computers were great and more or less comparable to the West during the mainframe Era, with some weird stuff like balanced trinary architectures.

But it utterly failed to become a consumer market, because, well, there was no market for expensive-ish consumer goods to speak of.

>>60412333
Also, the Buran shuttle could land from orbit completely unmanned. For autonomous systems stuff, the soviets were ahead.

>>60418807

You don't know shit about Russian canned meat.

>>60416880
X-15 didn't reach orbit.

I fucking hate it when people say Alan Shephard was the first american in space. Suborbital is not space. If you can't reach orbit, the only thing your rocket is useful for is as a glorified artillery shell.

>>60412382
pleasantly surprised nobody replied to this post with something about rms except for me right now

>>60426007

It used to be great. Now it's just as bad as any other commercial canned meats.

I mean I hate the russians, but I just want to see cool old tech here, fucking americans shitting up the thread. I swear this boards shitposting level is worse than /b/

>>60425932
I know... Yugoslavia was more known for tvs/radios (RIZ), appliances (Obodin, Gorenje) and power solutions (Iskra, Gredelj, Končar, still going strong today tho)...

>>60413342

Soviet did survive as an economic unit with BRIC countries though

>>60419507
>If we didn't have WW2 & Cold War, I highly doubt our current tech would be as advanced as it is today.
Yes it would.
Both world wars were a huge waste of resources and we probably lost brilliant minds in all of that, you don't need war to perfect technology that benefits mankind.
A lot of research projects were abandoned because of that.
Like hybrid cars, we're only now getting them.

>>60412475
Blacks invented Tetris 2000 years ago before Whites could even walk!!

We wuz gaymers!

>>60426492
>Hybrid cars being beneficial to anyone

Kys

t. 450hp v8 coupe

>>60426577
Dumbfuck.
>driving almost twice the distance of a regular combustion engine with the same amount of fuel is not beneficial
Good luck having submarines that cross the Atlantic without hybrid engine too.

Stupid American.

>>60413129
There were some ideological obstacles too, like the obstruction of cybernetics in the 1950s as a "reactionary pseudo-science".

>>60414350
>>60414567
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky
Sikorsky was a devout russian orthodox christian and a monarchist, he wasn't Polish (except possibly descended from russified polish nobles back in Peter I's time).

>>60426577
>v8

Nice piece of history you have there.

>>60413874
>FED
>Best cameras and lenses
You are a moron. Just because they stole the machinery it doesn't mean they knew how to operate it properly and keep the production up to standard.

FED cameras and lenses are notoriously low quality, both in operation and results. Literally babby's first rangefinder.

>>60427487

So Soviets couldn't produce even shitty consumer lens because they didn't know how to operate stolen machinery but could somehow produce super complicated spy satellites optics?

>>60427654
Yes, because it was the same people running the manufacturing lines for consumer lenses and spy satellite optics. Do your research before spouting nonsense.

>>60415181
>it's pretty embarrassing those who 'lost' could rebuild their entire economy into superpowers faster than those who won.

That's because the winners then had to spend all their money on building bigger and more powerful armies, while the losers were not allowed to have an army at all - they spent all their budget entirely on their economy.

>>60418064
>No need to thank us.

I'd be thanking your great granddad, not you.

>>60420352
Ironically, Nazis are against a group of people who religiously call themselves superior, and everyone else to be lesser men.

It's also just one group of people, and not half the populace of the entire planet.

>>60423886
>Having lived in the Soviet Union and as a non-Russian (so no "muh-we-won-ww2" delusions):
>Everything was shit, underengineered, power-hungry, inefficient trash. Everything that was remotely (very remotely) comparable to west-tech was a knockoff of something produced in the west 30 years earlier.

The stuff made in the 70s-80s was done after a global energy crisis (oil prices skyrocketed), when the US had the capacity to change into more economic hardware, but the USSR had a too rigid system so they could not. The stuff they made before that time was world class.

Really that was the only problem with the USSR. They had a too rigid system because there were some values that they just had to uphold no matter what. Like that had to have jobs for everyone, even if said job generated a loss for the system, it was worth it because then they had 0% unemployment. Yeah, america has better economy, but also way more homeless and unemployed people.

>>60425289
> Let's print more dollarydos
> Oy-vey, inflation! Let's adjust for it, now you owe us more!

>>60414060
Cccp lost space race when leadership overthrew khruschev in 1964 and replace with brezhnev kosigyn etc. Space program was nikitas baby. Brezhnev stop space race and instead concentrated resources on icbm and overtaking us in ballistic missles

>>60414674
Initially the us gobmnt didnt want german nazis to compete with russian rocketry so instead let jewish navy vanguard project take the lead. Run by clown called milton rosen. But since jewish engineering is nigger-tiered it was a great embarrassment and humiliation for usa. (Engineering and space is not kosher, like porn industry and pyramid finance schemes. Too much like real work). So then the usa decided to stop fucking around and brought out A team - german army redstone project, run by german werner von braun, that won the space race.

>>60413692
USSR wouldnt have been able to win without American lend lease. 99% of rubber used for all their trucks and shit was thanks to the Americans, nevermind the thousands of tanks that the Americans and British gave to the Russians.

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>>60427914
>you NEED to have 100% employment
What about those too disabled to work? Or people with mental issues that can't work? Seems the Soviets forcing them into jobs wouldnt work out too well

>>60427967
How about you give me a billion and i'll give you a billion back in 2060? (Where that billion would basically be 20+ billion by then) Cool 19 billion profit for me!

>>60427704
Most of the FED/Kiev lines were operated initially by the engineers and designers from Leica/Zeiss, the quality in the early runs was literally the same as the original ones, they were literally made from the same stockpiles used before the war
The Soviet production kept comparable quality until the late 50's, when the production demanded by the state was increased, and thus quality started to suffer
Still, the cameras were great until the 70's, when the original designers/engineers retired and the Soviet replacements folded to the state demands, simplifying the design and skimping on QC
The later cameras are still respectable, since the Soviets polished the original complex designs into a simple reliable and easy to manufacture camera
Also, you seem to be confusing FED with Holga, the lenses used in Kiev/FEDs were good in their entire production run

>>60429149
If you can't work, you can't be employed or unemployed, you don't participate in labour relationships at all.

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I used to have one of these.

used 8 bit КP580BM80A (intel8080A clone ) and used EKDOS (CP/M clone) and was used in schools
made from 1988 to 1991 (not sure about the 1991 but i guess)

>>60412576
you had the better tech for rockets, but US had the better resources and infrastructure management, so first to moon is us

>>60413495
What is lend lease?
US had the most impact in ww2 of any group
it fought on 2 fronts simultaneously, supplied all of it's allies, and made the atom bomb to solidify it's impact
USSR lied to allies so it could get the capture of Berlin, when the war was pretty much already won
USSR had the third most impact though (cuz germany is second)
With Allies only focusing on Africa at the time Russia finally managed to dig it's boots in the ground and begin a turnaround. Their turnaround was more just Hitler's luck running out though, and him being a fucking retard when it comes to war finally biting him back.

>>60427967
US has scheduled inflation now. The economic heads of the US didn't understand how to manage it till the 80s
now they schedule it at ~2-3% a year as a means of encouraging growth, and to make sure the rich don't just sit on assets.
basically they want to increase economic investment

>>60412333
I live in Bulgaria, my dad worked for the "Company" (in quotes coz it was government owned) that worked with the "Дъpжaвнa Cигypнocт" or "National Security", this guys were the fingers of the KGB in Bulgaria, and they had "Spies" or in other words, ppl living abroad that infiltrate in your institutions and send information about many things, including cars and car engines etc. to us.

One of the most successful PC in the 80's was a copy of reverse engineered Apple 2 1977, so you can guess, how much time was needed to "develop" or actually steal your technology.

We programmed in BASIC, FORTRAN, C and all the other langs you guys used, we never created anything ours in that field too.

Also, a normal person was not able to buy (even if he has the money for it) PC like EVER, you can only use it publicly with permission of your University (no schools too) or Institute.

We had no internet whatsoever, or anything similiar.


We were living in the 20's compared to you.

>>60412576
First fired woman in space, then the space module lost for 4 days and when found the "woman" disappeared all of a sudden..
The first man in space was found 4 km away from the actual landing of the module and his vital signs was like a normal guy that never experienced 10 G... come on if anyone is lying is you guys.

>>60413129
>"engineers"
Not educated people in western disciplines that follow narrative in favor of the GREAT COMMUNIST PARTY and reverse engineer (as good as possible, mostly bad) western technology.

With ZERO profit.

>>60413692
41 milions KILLED BY YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT
>WE WON GUYS WE WON WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS SRSLY HEY GUYS RESPOND PLS
>WE WON RIGHT ? WE WON !!! RIGHT GUYS ?

>>60430015
proofs

>>60412576
USSR didn't write it's own COMPILER

>>60430027
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union

Proofs in the article

>>60417154
>hacking almighty US elections with vacuum tubes
>not most brilliant minds of all time
cmon dude

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>>60430027
иди нa хyй

>>60423960
this is comfy

>>60419307
Cheap, effective weapon allows anyone to get a job as a soldier. Even child!

>>60430015
>Some critics in Russia put total losses in the war, both civilians and military, at over 40 million.
>41 milions KILLED BY YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT
>war losses
>by your own government
OK, so what kind of logic is this?

>>60413632
>tfw the flag is most likely completely faded out and white by now

>>60430127
Caм иди, или paccкaзывaй, чтo зa 41 миллиoн yбитых личнo Cтaлиным.

>>60430191
Your government killed total of 40+ mil of your own man.
By sending a man to the battle field with a cheap rifle and 5 bullets is a death sentence by all means. All the prisoners that went in the mines until they die.

Your government is responsible for their death, if you are talking about the war loses, sure its around 25 or so but still WAAAAAAAAAAAY more than any other in the said war. And when you add the all the support from your allies, you guys are retarded, did you actually knew how to shoot ?

>>60430273
>implying anyone past the first wave got rifles

>>60430214
It was destroyed by the jet engines of the module right after the return to Earth. You can even see it in the video.

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>>60430223
Enjoy the Tatar cock much ?

>>60430273
The soviet leadership were all jews anon
and hunted russians systematically out of spite
it was never their government
their government lost the civil war and exiled

>>60417377
I was raised in a poor rural region of Eastern Europe, where nationalism and anti-leftism levels are absurd and during my childhood I would get into fights with lads over such trivial shit like not having my head shaven and still I'm extremely liberal

nationalists are no better than animals driven by their instinct, they shouldn't be considered people

>>60430273
>Your government is responsible for their death, if you are talking about the war loses
Yes, and Soviet government occupied Belarus, Ukraine and West Russia, was trying to get over Stalingrad and lost.

>>60430387
Бългap бpo ?

>>60430328
>пyк

>>60430406
nah, pshek here

>>60430439
>pshek
my mom is 1/2 from poland

>>60430077
underrated

>>60430417
Why are you showing me this pic? It doesn't prove that nationalism isn't dumb. It just prove that black people are less intelligent. So what?

read this:

Hodson, G. & Busseri, M.A. (2012). Bright minds and dark attitudes: Lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice through right-wing ideology and low intergroup contact. Psychological Science, 23, 187-195.

White nationalists are no better than nigs and yet they're still treated like better than them just because they look human.

And what about that small margin of exeptionally smart nigs? Do they deserve to be treated worse just because they look like some other people who are usually dumb?

Collective thinking and treating groups of people like a mass, not like a group of individual cases is a very commie thing to do. Nothing to be suprised though, nationalists and commies are the same shit when it comes to ruling - dirty, smelly collectivist subhumans, just with different slogans.

>>60430463
my dad's 1/2 from Belarus and my mom's 1/2 from Ukraine

>>60429748
I wonder how "well" the US would have fought in WW2 if it lost 40 million civilians to Germany and had to fight tooth and nail, from building to building, for a year to protect its biggest cities.

>>60419307
AK-47 is stolen German design, and reproduced as an inferior weapon.

>>60430804
They wound't lost so many, neither Russia did, they (Russia) lost 25+ but KGB killed (Russian citizens) at least 17 mil more according to their record.

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>>60431714
No, that's a common meme. The STG-44 and the AK only share a superficial visual similarity. What might have been borrowed is the mass-production process - German steelworking was superior to Soviet.
>https://www.forgottenweapons.com/ak-and-stg-kissing-cousins/

>>60430387
>slav
ABSOLUTELY SUBHUMAN

WOW IT FEELS GOOD TO BE GERMAN

>>60414835
>chinks
>good for anything other than slave labor
Also
>china is one person

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>>60429872

Elderfag here.

Bulgarians where like top tier hackers during late 80's so I guess many had access to computers.

As for ex-yu we pretty much had the same shit as everyone else in the west only living standard was lower and as is turned out not because of socialism but because we are stupid lazy slavs.

No KGB or whatever, there where ton of BBSs and you could dial straight to US if you wanted, there where no restrictions whatsoever on comms. I even had CNN over cable during late 80's.

>>60412333
It was killed by our retard leader Khrushchev because he didn't have interest in it, altho computer technology had a HUGE potential in SU as there were factories pumping microprocessors and scientists writing their OWN OS and programs. g wet dream, because nothing was standardized else. But because our cornuptheass retard of a leader didn't have any interest in it development was slower than in U.S. and it had no possibility of reaching your average consumer. Later all of that shit got integrated with military and now SU and consequently Russian are lagging behind military tech since our own lags behind, thats why you see le ebin russian hackers as if you can't make a better tech then your enemy you learn how to jam it. And we missed a IT train that India used and now enjoys pajeets literally everywhere in IT.

>>60412863
>first artificial satelite
>first interplanetary space probe
>first human in space
>first spacestation
>still carrying everyone into space
>ameritards still think they won the space race because the at least had the moon

>>60413129
also, americans had the nazi scientists. withour wernher von braun they would have never reached the moon before mid 70s.

>>60432022
actually, the m16 based on the stg44.

>>60430273
the russian success against the wehrmacht was only possible because the soviets could afford to have 10 russkis killed by a german soldier until he was taken out. they pulled that off until they had retaken stalingrad and went into the offense.

>>60413277
While SU airplane engines were hit or miss your comparison is retarded as USA had an easy time having no war on it's soil. You know who was making engines in SU? All men were on the frontline, those who were left as women, kids and elderly people were making those engines. Props to SU engineers for making something that can be assembled by completely unqualified labour.

>>60431714
If you dig deep enough everyone stolen from each other when it comes to weapons. Whole U.S. early air force was just copycat from Brits.

>>60429911
there is no solid proof that the "lost cosmonauts" ever existed.

>>60429355
Translated, you become a corpse.

>>60430307
>there was only one mission to the moon
fucking american education about the achievements of your own nation
holy fucking shit

>>60432917
>>60430273
Soviets were all about symbolism and not practicality. They wanted to launch a rocket to coincide with the anniversary of a revolution, even if it was not practical, and this lost them the race to the moon. They wanted 100% employment ratio, even if it meant creating uneconomical jobs that cost more to sustain than they contributed economically. They wanted to stop the Nazis at Stalingrad because the city bore Stalins name - and it cost millions in casualties and devastated the city, but they held out.

>>60433073
>They wanted to stop the Nazis at Stalingrad because the city bore Stalins name - and it cost millions in casualties and devastated the city, but they held out.
true. also, on the other side, the germans could have taken moscow by the time without much trouble but hitler also wanted to have "stalins city". the war in russia could have ended before a single american soldier would have stepped on european soil.

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while digital equipment from commie-era was nothing interesting, the analog equipment was just as good as the western, if not better

http://www.robotrontechnik.de/

https://archive.org/details/demo211

Here's the program that's still running on the Soyuz spacecrafts

>>60414390

Is there more of this? I seem to have a soft spot for parades celebrating technology.

We all can agree that they made some nice watches right

>>60423886
I think the biggest shit maker in their minds is their television. REN TV and ROSSIJA RTR the main ones.

REN TV being the crown jewel. 'Documentaries' with ALLCAPS level talking narrators. Germany, ww2 stuff and America mentioned left and right.

Mystical new age like shit of the highest magnitude.

They even had a conspiracy theory that split and mirrored a half of a painting and compared it to Darth Vader one time. Western SJW media are plebs compared to Russian telly stuff.

>>60432983
You are bad at translation skills.

>>60430214
>tfw France actually won the space race

>>60433073
>hey wanted to stop the Nazis at Stalingrad because the city bore Stalins name - and it cost millions in casualties and devastated the city, but they held out.

It stalled Germans more then enough to pay off, after it you would get other cities being taken out and if Germans would take that one they would have a place to settle in and rest.

>>60433345
By similar logic all of the high commandment of SU could have been moved further deep into the east and continue the war with minor inconveniences, wearing down Germany more and more.

>>60434273
stalin believed the reports of germans raiding western russia were british lies and the main soviet staff was still in moscow when the first german tanks came close to the city. stalin was an incompetent idiot.

>>60429872
>>60432328
Unless the BBS was in your city, you had to pay long distance charges. This is a big reason most people in the US didn't have network access until Compuserve, Prodigy, and AOL came around. Even if the US had an edge in the 80's, the people who cared were pariahs. It wasn't the cool hip thing to be a nerd.

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>>60412333
Some original architectures, lots of clones. They don't seem that far behind the west but far more inaccessible, Soviets also seemed to have a fetish for shoving PDP-11 compatible chipsets into everything. They also almost universally had a nice, rugged aesthetic to them.

>>60430307
the bait is perfect but no one has mentioned the jet engines yet

>>60434579
that monitor design is /cyb/ af

>>60412382
>I've also been looking for some old soviet science books as they apparently taught marxist thought together with physics, chemistry and mathematics. It's very interesting.
Names please, do you have any ebooks?

>>60413608
nice

>>60414004
Holy shit

>>>60414280
>US was the place most scientists wanted to go because US payed them a lot.

You are right. This is the free market and capitalism at work. Suck it, pinko commie bastards.

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>>60413608
Sounds like a C&C theme

>>60434113
no u

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Seriously though, why didn't the USSR just make a supercomputer to run their economy?

>>60412382
JPL has a bunch of soviet books on physics and astronomy. Wish I had read them now when I had a chance.

>>60412382
capitalist pig

>>60438789
Because those in power just want to enrich themselves. Not that making a super computer would have actually helped that much anyway, economies are not purely number driven, a lot of economics is based on the feelings on the humans in the system and those humans often act in erratic ways.

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>>60438789

That's what Chile was going to do.

>>60438893
One of their big computer scientist wanted to but some shit happened

>>60420614
That's shit bait. More Americans have died in spacecraft than all other countries combined.

>>60439652
yea, that was an awesome plan before the US cam in and fucked everything up as always