Why is Japanese web design stuck in the 90s/early 00s?

>>60389292
Functional over form, webdev trash.

looks cool
wouldn't visit tho

>>60389292
because AESTHETIC

>>60389292

more functional

widespread use of mobile devices

lack of top tier web designers

>>60389292
I know, isn't it wonderful, it's like web 2.0 was never forced on them.

>go to japanese website
>index.html

>>60389292
everything technology-wise in Japan is stuck in the 90s. Every major company still uses a fax machine as their primary method of sending documents.

They are busy polluting young minds with anime and mobile games.

Mochizuki has better things to do then jerk off to UI aesthetics

>>60389292
Biggest misconception about Japan is that they are on the cutting edge of technology. Sure, there are some companies and universities doing great research, but Japanese society as a whole is stuck in the 90's.

Because japs only browse the internet and their phones. Email is literally their word for phone number. [spoiler]not literally[/spoiler]

>>60389607
bunch of dumb phoneposters

>>60389396
>>60389443
So the Japanese are simultaneously 20 years ahead and 20 years behind in technology?

Radical.

>>60389647
>they got no apps for browsing 2ch
japs are always behind

>>60389662
Does that mean it cancels out?

>can access them without having to load some 2MB javascript
I like them

>>60389348
/thread

>>60389292
Because still browse from flipphones

>>60389292
The term used for that kind of web design is "Prof. Dr. Style", and it's not secluded to .jp's only:
http://contemporary-home-computing.org/prof-dr-style/

>>60389670
>>they got no apps for browsing 2ch
They do though for 2 channel & futaba

>>60389292
You've obviously never been to Japan. Japan does whatever Japan wants to do.

>>60389292
What the fuck more do you need? All required and necessary info is on there.

>>60390627
>flipphones
>japan
Have you ever been there in the past couple of years?

>>60389396
Where i am still uses faxes, for whatever reason it's considered more secure.

I guess japan likes proven, robust technologies rather than running ahead at full speed. Pardon the /pol/ism, its a bit like SJWs, they want to force people forward at breakneck speed no matter what... while japan takes their own pace and it seems to be working for them.

>>60391313
>they want to force people forward at breakneck speed no matter what
But diversion for the sake of diversion isn't 'objectively' 'moving forward' It's just change for the sake of change. It doesn't compare at all to advancements in technology.

>>60391313
Faxes are more secure. Email is sent in plain text over WAN.

>>60389309
>functional
>blue text on blue text

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not OP
I'm curious too
sick example:
http://www.orangetoyota.jp/

>Why are professors web pages stuck in the 90s?

FTFY

http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~rsridhar/courses/cse341/
http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~bina/
http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/faculty/tkosar/cse421-521_fall2012/

>>60389292
>Mochizuki
desu, most mathematicians/scientist personal websites look like that

ease of use
less resources used
nicer in a lot of cases to modern web design
not fixing what isn't broken

>>60393842
looks comfy desu

>>60389292
Is not that guy the one Satoshi Nakamoto?

>>60389292
Japan culture is autism, if somethings like it, do it for all your live, same kind of shonen,same kind of porn, same RPG with great Soundtrack, this allow create beautiful thing, but everything feel same.

1.It works.

>>60389396
>>60391313
Their society is all about conformism so they are ok with being worked to death and using obsolete technology that just works, as opposite to US where every single retard believes they can reinvent the wheel and even try.

Both have their upsides and downsides.

>>60389292
written in notepad, immune to json and cs updates....

pretty much the gold standard of real web design not that flashy joke BS.

>>60391313
>Where i am still uses faxes, for whatever reason it's considered more secure.
its not more secure you can use the under current to retransmit copies of any sendto data easily....

>>60393842
this format rather than sliding scripts and all the myspace glitter bs used in the west is far more efficient than the popup videos and other garbade we have.

>>60393889
>http://www.cse.buffalo.edu/~rsridhar/courses/cse341/
whats going on with that page that should be simple? wtf is there like hundreds of extra lines of useless code?

I say useless but why it there....

>>60389292
>>60389396
>>60389662

a e s t h e t i c k s

>jp language ドリトル
http://dolittle.eplang.jp/index.php?ch_graphics

>>60394424

<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 12">

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>that license

>>60389443
>>60389662
Pretty much. Windows XP is common, yet smartphone payment became commonplaces years ago and they're on the forefront of AI and robotics research.

>>60392080
Phone lines are trivial to tap. You can even use a video recording of the modem/switch lights.

>>60389309
Kys

>>60393540
>>blue text on blue text

>>60389376
Problem?

>>60395037
Kids these days want "progress".

>>60394791
>Windows XP is common
How bad is WannaCry fucking them you think?

>>60395199
I read somewhere that despite it not being supported anymore, Microsoft still put out a patch.

>>60391313
Nobody ever understands why Japan seems like they are backwards in technology, it's really more that this is how things are done officially, and it's not your place to question how things are done, once you are older and can question how things are done you have bigger worries and just care that things get done, so you insist that things are done the same old way that they always have been done, this is why so much paper is used everywhere in Japan instead of using computers

>>60393842
This website has everything you need

>>60389292
I always wonder that too.

>>60389292
i don't know what you're talking about anon. a lot of japanese sites i see are ad-ridden garbage

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Because that's when web design peaked, now we have fucking garbage everywhere.

>>60389292
Because that's where their computers are too.

>>60396711
This, OP is retarded. It's perfectly normal that academics have minimal sites, it's not something only Japan does. Their commercial pages are as retardedly full of useless garbage as western sites.
Yay for progress, am I right?

>>60396752
>Because that's when web design peaked, now we have fucking garbage everywhere.
I notice everywhere that every modern site looks like a myspace page threw up, with interfaces so cluttered you literally click anywhere on the screen and it goes somewhere else.

Keep in mind google isnt helping by starting a process to ban all search results that dont work on mobile devices because it interferes with chromebook users accessibility to online content which google wants made illegal.

>>60389292
Doesn't need javascript.

>>60389292
https://discord.gg/JzKrznx

I'm more curious why it doesn't have a plain background

Simple text links on a white background looks better. Why pollute with other shit

>>60394826
fax is harder to intercept because it requires bidirectional communication with the sender machine.

>>60396930
>it requires bidirectional communication
That has nothing to do with how difficult it is to intercept. Email is bidirectional too; learn to TCP.

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>>60389292
That's nothing. Check out my Indian professor. We're at a great uni and everyone just plays on their phones while he babbles.

>1967

>>60397198
mst.edu/~chaman/

>>60396930
>fax is harder to intercept because it requires bidirectional communication with the sender machine.
There is already an undercurrent on where the dam thing plugs in to get power jackie chan. compromise that and their data is yours its literally that simple and there is no security to stop it.

>>60397198
>mst.edu/~chaman/
wait is that email a rotating gif please post link I want to enjoy this 1990s design goodnes anon, its like vaporwave come to life.

>>60397242
lmao ikr. He has a table within a table within a table too.

>>60397242
It probably wouldn't even look good in 640x480.

Windows XP is fading, most new animu shows the windows 10 interface everytime someone uses a pc.

>>60393540
It functions you fucking nigger. You listed an example of poor form. The links are obvious and they work. Making them look good is an example of form.

>>60397309
>most new animu shows the windows 10 interface everytime someone uses a pc.

>I saw something in anime so it must apply to real life

>>60389292
1999 is a sacred year that represents the pinnacle of human creativity and consciousness. Knowingly turning our back on this has cast our society into sin.

The Japanese have kept the faith. We must also return to these ways.

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>>60397267
>>60397282
>A FUCKING TABLE WITHIN A TABLE!!!!
I effen love it, thank god he has not one but TWO EMAIL LINKS!!!! didnt see the first well here it is again!

>those gifs
>that solid color background
>that non transparent stock image phone
>those purple and blue links on left instead of on top or bottom just to be different.
How much you wanna bet those links on left were supposed to be on top but table genius here formatted it wrong... thank you mr post doctorate in computer science....

we need to make like vaporwave threads for these kinds of sites to explore the comfiness.
I want to go back to the 90s!

>>60397198
>>60397242
>>60397267
>>60397282

found it

http://web.mst.edu/~chaman/

>>60397361
He also has the same sidebar twice.

You should look at the source code, it's pretty terrible. And I'm 99% sure he modifies it using notepad.

>genius
He actually had really good reviews on ratemyprofessor up until he had some medical issues.

>>60389292
This. Almost every japanese website I've seen look like some later 90's website.

>>60397407
>You should look at the source code, it's pretty terrible. And I'm 99% sure he modifies it using notepad.
I fuggen love using notepad to make websites, but wtf I was 16 and making tables and formatting correctly and this guy has a phd, im surprised he can program his vcr.

>He actually had really good reviews on ratemyprofessor up until he had some medical issues.
Maybe he is really nice? but no way am I sending my kid to IllinoisU if that is their standard.

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>>60397198

Here's another bad prof from my uni
mst.edu/~ercal/

>>60393889
https://www.yahoo.co.jp/ Almost the same content and layout of https://www.yahoo.com Half the loading time and bloat.

>>60397457
He's nice, yeah. Just a bad teacher.

It's Missouri University of Science and Technology, mst.edu. We're competing with the likes of Colorado School of Mines and Georgia Tech in Engineering. Our CS dept needs a purge though.

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>>60397399
dubs confirms we need vaporwave website threads like this all notepadded out, and full of bs errors like his with double emails and the sidebar twice.

as other aon said look at the source he has 2 sidebars!!! loving this! this shit is fucking comfy.

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>>60397462
>those colored stripes!
>that mini table with crap just shoved in there with no spacing.

fucking loving this! we need threads of this!
I want to live vaporwave! I want that timeline of design now.

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>>60397494
Anon since you love my professor so much please make a meme out of him.

>>60393842
I like it, looks comfy
As opposed to modern western websites where God-knows-what hppens whenever you move your fucking mouse around, it's neat

>>60389292
I wish I was Japanese Clark Kent.

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Ercal's actually doesn't look that bad text based..

>>60397543
>Anon since you love my professor so much please make a meme out of him.
love that layout, he looks quite huggable though. then again im not from this board but dam that is some comfy page layout right there, we need to make that a thing and him a meme at the same time as the leader in vaporwave web design.

keep in mind vaporwave is meant to have distortions and errors much like his website and the image here: >>60397361

>>60389292
Oh my fuck

Stop posting this guy and just suck his dick already

>>60397361
>>that solid color background
Just like 4chin, I don't get your point.

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>>60397639
>>>that solid color background
>Just like 4chin, I don't get your point.
bu-but anon.... that is the point!

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>>60397714
>....

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>>60397728
I do love me some contrast, let me share this please to see if it is also enjoyed.

>>60389292
I've wondered the same thing. Wish some Jap company would hire me to bring them into the 21st century and pay for me to live there

>>60389670
You're an idiot.

>>60389292
Is the modern resource hog ad-centric approach really any hetter?

>>60389443
>Japanese society as a whole is stuck in the 90's
I need to move to Japan then because I too am stuck in the 90s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ve269iduxY

shit looks like lain

>>60397522
Why lain had so many servers and complex cooler system again?
She wanted to make a facebook or something or just to post on that shit weird forum

>>60394424
I go to this school as well...

>>60397198
>>60389292
>>60397462
if a cs professor is good their website will look like this

no exceptions

>>60397323
If they prefer function over form, shouldn't it be more functional?

>>60397323
The links exist, they function properly and correctly I'm guessing almost 100% of the time, and are easily identifiable as buttons you can press.

Again, this is the definition of FUNCTION. Having an attractive and colorful or even a monotone high contrast design to be more appealing or "increase readability" is a characteristic of FORM.

It's like saying don't buy white wheels because they'll get dirty even though the way it looks has absolutely nothing to do with how it performs.

Now if the text was in a ridiculously hard to read don't with no outlines or the text wasn't descriptive enough, then I'd agree that it has both poor form and function.

But in terms of the website getting the job done quickly, efficiently and consistently, that shit gets it done.

Although I agree it's hideous and needs to be updated to 2017, the point remains that function over form was the idea here.

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>>60399992
Replies to wrong post lol

>>60399992
>Done quickly and efficiently
That's a pretty good point I see that

>>60400006
Lmao

>>60397198
At least it doesn't use iframes.

>>60397462
Looks great. Loads in 1/10th of a second and has everything you need.

Mobiles and old hardware

>>60397267
>http://web.mst.edu/~chaman/

What if it's some sort of metaphor for recursion?
That's what popped into my head when I looked at it.

>>60389292
thats not a standard jap site tho
this one is >>60393842

>>60389292
the same reason academia is

it works and its bullshit free

new web design is disgusting garbage
I have to scroll for garbage and use extra bandwidth because some hipster decided it's the new standard and some corporate trash approved it because they like every webpage on their site to look like a full video commercial

>>60389443
the biggest Burgerland misconception is that a society that owns the latest itoy is one that is on the cutting edge of technology

protip: consumerism is not technology

>>60401206
Agree mid 2000 - late 2000 webdesign is best

>>60389292
Because they use IE6, and because they undestand a e s t h e t i c s

>>60389292
I had a Japanese classmate use almost the exact same background for her presentation on Greek mythology. She also used Comic Sans and glow effects. Is this a Japanese thing?

>>60393842
Looks OK. Maybe it's overloaded a little bit, but if a visitor have an attention span longer than the one of a goldfish, he'll manage to navigate through it.

>>60401670
>She also used Comic Sans and glow effects.
She was on a level of irony that was beyond your comprehension capability

>>60393842
honestly, the clusterfucks like this that try to mimick US style "modern" webdesign are worse than the hipster minimalist pages that are miles long and require an insurance policy for your scrollwheel

When you go to a webpage you're looking for information. You don't want to be overwhelmed by useless shit everywhere

>>60401729
especially when it's all in moonrunes
I would imagine differentiating shit font or small size moonrunes is much more of an eyestrain than reading English

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Anything is better than download 15 scripts though 5 third party domains and opening 3 frames and connection to 20 tracking domains and having tracking cookies set on your machine just to load a minimalist website to read a paragraph of text. Fuck webdevs, /wdg/ is the worst general on this board, worst then /v/ consumer threads. Sometimes I google something, and a link leads me to a plaintext html site with not a single script and I breath a sign of relief. Websites should be like that, or polished, efficient, like government sites (seriously, Canada's CRA site has one single first-party script and that's it). Everything is going wrong,

>>60401778
>Everything is going wrong,
blame consumerism

>>60401778
I second this.

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>>60389292
>90s Æ S T H E T I C S ¤[][][]

>>60397487
jp site is much better. i don't like this new internet look, and mile-long, single-page sites

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>>60389292
This is the millionth time we have created this thread and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

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>>60397399
>Generated by Microsoft Word 14
Maybe it's not so much Chaman as it is Microsoft still allowing this shit to happen

>>60401778
amen

>>60389292
And this page probably is 4-5 times lesser than a random twitter page with two lines of text (and a ton of JS)