We are switching to Oracle Linux after this. Bye bye, Microsoft!

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>>60377098
>oracle

>>60377098
While I support the switch, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

>don't update software with month-old security fixes
>blame the company who told you to update a month ago when you don't update
kek
the butthurt this ransomware has caused is stupendous.

>>60377098
>cianiggers find windows exploit but use it instead of reporting it to MS
>cianiggers get hacked and hackers release it publicly
>ms patches it within days and pushes updates out
>w10 gets patched and updated automatically
>retards on w7/w8 that refuse to install security fixes or any patches at all and let themselves get hacked and then blame ms for "not fixing it"

Forced updates are the best thing to happen to normie retards.

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>>60377123
>>60377157
Yeah definately, update each day for 3 hours to keep the computer running!!

>>60377168
>implying all normies use smb
The forced update is full of shit with its broken drivers.

>>60377187
It's been over a month since the security fix that patched this came out. If you don't update your security patches monthly you're an idiot regardless of which operating system you use. kek.

>>60377217
>It's been over a month
Mo

>only the Windows 7 computers are affected
Really makes you think

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>>60377217
>Update wankbloz
>Drivers break
>Applications break
>Otherwise security breaks
Heh, NEVER EVER

>>60377236
Wrong

>>60377217
Microsoft and its mitigation goes to the trash.

If you pay them the 300 do they unlock it?

>>60377247
You can make up whatever excuses you like, it doesn't change anything. You should have swapped to Linux ages ago (where you would still have to update security patches regularly) or just updated regularly like Microsoft tells everyone to do anyway. It's nobody else's fault that you're an idiot.

>>60377278
Nope

Also, WanaCry 2.0 has been released, this time it doesn't even have any kill switch. The intention is clear and it's to cuck wintards all over the world

>>60377297
Oh God! Next week will be fun at work :^)

>>60377325
:^)

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>>60377098
>can't maintain the operating system designed for drooling retards
>"surely Oracle Linux will be better for us!"

>>60377342
People don't update windows because
1. It breaks software
2. It takes 4 hours

>>60377098
>switching to Oracle Linux
Why would anyone do this?

>>60377360
Then these people should be fired.

But if you really need to be spoon fed, maybe you should consider MacOS...

>>60377411
People who are too dumb to install updates are usually too dumb to pick out their own operating systems.

>>60377445
>Wintrash takes ages to update and breaks software compatibility
>Users should get fired
Microsoft apologist on suicide watch

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>>60377285
>>60377454
Are you literally crying right now?

>retards stupid enough to click exe files
>surely linux will be a better os
this shit is gonna be funny

>>60377460
>too stupid to run updates
Ha

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>>60377472
>Microsoft user gets called a retard by Linux users on /g/ for not applying updates
>"I-I'm not mad, you're mad!"
No, we're laughing.

>>60377592
>run updates
>Software breaks
>N-No you shouldn't get updates
Nice damage control

>>60377325
>>60377340
>uding the smiley with a carat nose

>>60377560
This. I feel awful saying this about the people I know and love, but when it comes to computers, I'm surrounded by retards, and would never suggest Linux to even the best of the group. I'll just have to continue down the lonely path of Linux by myself.

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>>60377628
>Microsoft user gets called a retard by Linux users
>by Linux users

>>60377460
>Wintrash takes ages to update
Full Win10 update cycle is ~15 min on a C2D T7600 w/ 4GB RAM and a 500GB spindle.

Maybe try not shit hardware?

>breaks software compatibility
Muh legacy.

>Users should get fired
Admins that failed to patch a corporate or hospital network? Absolutely. But if you're an end user, you should stop bitching about muh legacy anyway, and maybe try to pirate something newer than photoshop 6.

>>60377098
>oracle linux
never heard of this, can any anons redpill me on it?

>>60377739
>Muh legacy.
Exactly why windows is alive in enterprise environment. Maybe try having a job, you autistic gamer NEET

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>>60377690
>Linux by myself
>myself

>not updating shit outside works hours

for fucks sake, worst thats gonna happen is a little housefire

>>60377360
>updating virus definitions
>takes 4 hours

It literally takes like 30 seconds.

Only feature updates take longer.

I know when you don't know shit on what you're talking about.

>>60377739
>>60377768
>muh legacy
Why is this even a thing? Using old shit and refusing to move on is precisely why this shit happened in the first place.

>>60377810
Too bad enterprise software aren't built with the latest flat meem UI with DX12

>>60377763
It's redhat with oracle's name slapped on it.

>>60377098
If your sysadmins can't install a critical patch, what makes you think they'll #apt-get update && upgrade?

>>60377168
>instead of reporting it to MS
can't tell if disinfo or just retarded

>>60377810
>have to shut down your entire business to migrate all of your databases to the new app every time an OS update comes out

>>60377701
Wrong.

>>60377778
And wrong.

>>60377098
Now I am curious, why Oracle Linux out of all of them? You know you can get volume enterprise support from SUSE, Red Hat, Canonical and others, right?

>>60377411
it's called support contracts you pleb

>>60377837

Ever heard of Change Management?

We need a fucking meeting in order to even think about installing anything live. Sandbox to test to dev to prod.

Even critical updates take a minimum of two weeks to install.

>>60377810
Line of business apps. Money people seem to forget that you can pay now or pay later, and often ignore the IT personnel when they try to suggest a balance. It is suffering...

>>60377825
Great plains, Forefront, Micros, and even Positive PRM support Win10/2016. If you're running some cobbled together system from the NT4 days, because the engineer left a decade ago and you don't want to spend the money or time to upgrade, you did this to yourself.

>>60377837
Funny thing, updates can be controlled via group policy in Windows. Takes maybe 30 min to setup the server, policies, and auto approval rules.

>>60377864
>Being this retarded

>>60377855
They didn't report it to Microsoft you stupid nigger

>>60377884
It was fucking 2 months ago you ignorameous

>>60377901
This is why you need java

>>60377931
2 years*

>>60377168
>Forced updates are the best thing to happen to normie retards.

I fully agree.

And if Microsoft didn't pack W10 with all that telemetry I would highly recommend it.
They were just too greedy.

>>60377955
You mean 20 years, right?

>>60377955
Months.. the patch come out 2 months ago. The NSA crack leaked sometime earlier.. wtf you on about 2 yrs.

Haha guise the patch was made for wannacry like 20 years ago

>>60377955
>>60377969
The patch was released back in 1994

>>60377988
The patch was there before windows was invented

This flaw was patched in Microsoft's March 2017 update cycle (MS17-10).

>>60377360
>It takes 4 hours

>have ssd
>have 300d/20u internet
can't relate.

>>60378087
Yeah you can't relate, enterprise desktops don't have overclocked SSD with tripple gtx titan Xp corssfire with overclocked 4000MHz RAM turbo nitro boost with custom water cooling system

>>60378151
kek

Why is everyone talking about businesses like if everyone owns a fucking company?

>>60377098
Oracle's distro is fucking slow, have fun with getting nothing done

>>60378151

So you relate to enterprises somehow?

>>60377098
>Pajeet in charge of IT shitting himself instead of the street when he realizes that he's going to be kicked out of the country
Pottery.

>>60378200
Wrong tab

>>60377656

> His software breaks after a minor update.

I don't think MS is the problem here bud.

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>>60378224
>MS is now less stable than Arch
You literally can't make this shit up

>>60377098
>some russkie school using pirated windows 7
>complains when computer infected with worm using exploits that were patched last year

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>>60378221
You wanna run that by me again?

>>60378255
Dumb mongol spotted. Maybe try seeing with your eyes wide open instead

>>60378277
Thanks for that one, Sandeep. Try taking a shower once. It's those scary things that look like elephants and shoot water out, it won't hurt you.

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>>60378325
I get it, I get it, you are mad. But at least try having a full canvas (>>60378255) and get over your natural shallow field of view with technology.

Dumb mongol.

>>60377098
Fuck, that's unimib, one of the computer labs of u14 building. I had a buch of exams there.
Top fucking kek.

>>60378396
You found a picture of an ugly Korean, good job.
Maybe if you'd use a fucking bathroom you'd be indoors long enough to patch these computers, Pajeet.

>>60378249
They run genuine versions of windows 7.
Source: I go to that uni.

>>60377236
Every windows including 10 is affected

>>60378531
From XP onward.

>>60377098
>Not having a competent IT department that makes sure all systems are properly updated
>Blaming MS when your retarded organization failed to keep up with security updates that fixed this problem weeks ago

>>60377187
fairly certain you dont have people working 24 hours a day 7 days a week. way too easy to schedule updates late at night and/or on weekends. kys yourself retard.

>>60378531
Nobody cares that you're fucking retarded and refused to install your security patches on the most used and most targeted OS platform.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/04/purported-shadow-brokers-0days-were-in-fact-killed-by-mysterious-patch/

>>60378531
Yet because of these "forced updates' Windows 10 users are doing fine.

this isn't oc you retarded fucks, this pic is old
jesus christ

>>60377187
Feature updates take a long time.
Cumulative updates take a while.
Security updates take a couple of minutes.

There's pretty much no excuse. And some of this must have been started by people opening suspicious emails.
The exploit mentioned gets you into Internet facing machines and then would spread to vulnerable machines over the network, but it seems pretty insane that all these places have Internet facing vulnerable machines, so we get back to people being the primary vulnerability.

>Don't maintain security on your systems
>Get upset with microsoft when somebody exploits your systems
The same fucking thing'll happen no matter what system you use if you don't update it

Isn't this photo from a lab somewhere in Europe that got hit by WannaCry? What kind of fucking lab doesn't use Linux anyway? Most labs I've been in use a reliable and stable distro like CentOS.

>>60377098
Someone explain what the fuck is going on

>>60378799
Retards that don't apply month old security patches got fucked.

Considering the severity of the exploit the system admins could have even implemented the workaround, disabling SMB1.0, if they need time to test the patches before implementing them.

>>60378799
There's ransomware going around that's spreading faster than your mom spreads herpes

>>60378661
All it takes is one machine open to the internet in the network for all machines to be compromised.

As cringe worthy as it is, it is easy to imagine someone thinking that their legacy machines are safe for not having direct access to the internet or that their normal lab or work machines are protected by being restricted to intranet access.

>>60378799
Wincucks are getting BTFO

>>60378817
>>60378833
>>60378870
but in that pic is it infecting towrds all those computers?

>>60378888
What?

>>60378629

0-days released by NSA-leaking Shadow Brokers

SB released it a month ago on github. It's funny, an anon was saying there was something in there that he was going to use to pwn his neighbour, and bribe for nudes. Guess he may not have been LARPing after all.

Block port 445 and 135 stupid faggot kids

>>60377098
Why are all my fellow M$shit casuals losing their shit over this?

Just update your Dori-dows 10 and get back to gaymen. We can't help the companies, some network administrators are shit and now their users have to suffer for that.

So how would I switch to Linux without losing
>Muh data

I'm assuming best way is to just unplug hdd and leave ssd in to install on? But how would formatting work..

>>60379000
I haven't really dealt with this issue, I've always just used a virtual machine to mess around with Ubuntu

How do people even get this virus? seriously I've been using windows 8.1 for years without updating and I don't have it yet

how do you acquire this garbage?

>>60379000
Do a proper backup, then restore it in the newly installed Linux environment.

>>60379000
Buy a Macbook instead.

>>60379061
If you are alone in your local network and behind a nat or firewall blocking the affected ports, the only way you could be infected would be from the spam package.

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>>60379061
Y-yeah sure, believe me

>>60379086
ok, what if I'm just a rando in his house with a generic verizon router and the generic windows firewall on a regular old internet connection?

>>60377958
>restart your PC in an hour or 2 hours?
>[My anus is ready now] / [Let's do it later]
Forced updates are fucking retarded and I'll never tolerate that shit on any device of mine.

Can't say the same for people who are not straight, such as the Reddit community.

>>60379101
I am not sure, but the odds are you are behind a NAT set by the router and, unless you set it to forward the ports, it is blocking the attacks.

>>60377168
>ms patches it within days and pushes updates out
It took them nearly a year after the vulnerability was disclosed.

>>60378842
That's the thing though, on a company or organization level having SMB open to the Internet should be very unusual. Like even if you have servers available for remote access or webservers on the network you usually wouldn't have them with all ports open etc. You have what you need for your services, which also means servers because every other computer on the network will be behind something, like routers.

So in an organization scenario, if the exploit was used to get into the network the access point would have been through an Internet facing server with SMB available. To the Internet.
Unless you had specific need to do it then it would make no sense to have your system set up like that so your sysadmin would be on suicide watch.
So we get back to other vectors that get the malware in and then it spreads via the exploit which will be the usual; email attachments and browser exploits.

>>60378198
Here's your reply

>>60379153
If we are talking about these SMB vulnerabilities they patched it within a couple months of them being disclosed (via the announcement by SB) and weeks before SB released proof of concept code/NSA code.

>>60377098
>Pajeets

>>60379250
No, it also spreads by social engineering from spam e-mails.

All it takes is one user in the local network who is at least able to receive e-mais and done, your whole network is potentially compromised.

>>60379313
NSA disclosed it when they became aware of the breech.

>>60377098
>>60377098
>open space
>less than 10 inches between your mouse and another keyboard
>no space to walk behind desks
>not doing regular backups

what kind of shitty country is this?

>>60379378
There's no evidence of that or when they became aware of the breech.

>>60379344
Yeah, I covered that.
Once again, people are the biggest vulnerability on your network. We should know by now not to open attachments on suspicious emails but it keeps happening.

Then you've probably found microsoft's equivalent in the non-windows world.
Good luck!

>>60377360
It doesn't matter what OS you choose, updates can break software.

>>60379811
other than Microsoft released the patch for this back in march a month before the files themselves were made public

everyone infected by this had not patched there systems, this was not a "zero day" in may

go shill somewhere else

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>>60377445
>MacOS
lmao

>>60379756
The US

>>60377098
>(((Oracle))) Linux

>>60377360
>security updates are the same as feature updates
no, you don't even have to restart to install security patches

>>60380213
As the arstechnica article mentions it is possible that SB disclosed the vulnerability to Microsoft before releasing it or that Microsoft paid them for the vulnerability.
Microsoft released the patch well after SB disclosed the vulnerability overviews so they remain a potential source of the information Microsoft needed to patch the exploits.

It makes some sense for SB to inform Microsoft of the details of the exploits first as well, because SB was not acting entirely maliciously by releasing the exploits, if they had malicious intent they could have kept and used them instead, or sold them to other parties.

>>60380241
It's okay though, not enough people use OSX for attackers to bother with large scale exploits.

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>>60377098
>Oracle Linux

>>60377168
This
Fucking old wincucks

>>60377360
>takes 4 hours
WTF are you using

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How fucked am I, /g/?

>>60378151
>Yeah you can't relate, enterprise desktops don't have overclocked SSD with tripple gtx titan Xp
i have enterprise and dual titan xp and 64gb ram and all that? I dont get what this post is saying.

>>60377168
MS actually patched this a month before the public leak. Very possible that the NSA finally disclosed the exploits to MS after they were hacked.

>>60377098
>the phone call that saved the classroom

>>60380323
I thought they were selling them to other parties.

>>60380617
IIRC the Win10 patch was exactly 1 week before it was leaked to the public

>>60380632
Why would they sell them if they were going to release them publicly?

Why would they even announce they had them publicly if they were going to sell them?

>>60380611
He's talking about how enterprises are generally made up of a majority of low spec workstation computers (which are usually left on 24/7 or can easily be patched overnight by running some sysadmin commands, so even if the patch took 4 hours that isn't a problem, because they don't have to walk around to each individual PC and start the patching process)

>>60380718
They released to the public an encrypted package and were trying to sell the key. But after failing to do so and the MOAB (for some reason) they decided to give up and released the key.

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>>60377690
Is this how you sleep at night anon?

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>>60380496
What distro would Maki use?

>>60380883
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mangaka

>Oracle Linux

Fucking why? If it's support you want go to Red Hat, Suse or even fucking Canonical.

>>60377098
How hard is it to just UPDATE your computers?

>>60377445
>macos
did you know macOS updates also break software? Apple doesn't care about backwards compatibility unlike Microshaft,

Well Oracle blows, that "Unbreakable Kernel" is a neat feature for prod though.

>>60382021
>Unbreakable Kernel
Literally the only thing they do is dick waving about their infiniband and SSD speed. Why call it "unbreakable" if you don't fucking add any security to it?

>>60377157
Try to be a better smartass faggot.

Windows update tend to break things, and are overall not easy to perform on servers. There is a reason why most servers use linux and not windows, it's because they are overall more secure and are easier to update. It doesn't take 5 hours to update your computer, you don't need to restart the whole fucking thing and usually things don't break.

It's window's and the NSA's fault for putting a backdoor in it, or not reporting it sooner. The zero-day has been patched only after it was leaked, when it should have been long before. Microsoft is a shitty company with a shitty product. Expecting people to keep their system updated is not unreasonable, but what is unreasonable is the way windblows updates. Just impossible to update large systems without a huge amount of down time.

You're a fucking moron to think that updating a whole set of computers in a business is the same thing as clicking on "update" for home users.

>parents hit by virus
>begging for help cause financials/retards have zero backups
>refused to pay for my education, said it was a waste

let'em burn

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>>60382288
>You're a fucking moron to think that updating a whole set of computers in a business is the same thing as clicking on "update" for home users.

>an wsus server with all the updates
>distributing update over lan
>any slower if not significantly faster than updating a home computer

You are literally retarded.

>>60382322
>Download the updates in 5 seconds
>Install the updates in the background for an hour
>Restarts ten times for the next 3 hours to apply 1 shitty update
>fast
No faggot, it ain't fast

>Muh security updates are only 3 milisec
No they are not. They take a long time, requires restarting the whole thing and causes down time. Like i said before, updating shit on servers it not as easy as updating something on one computer.

The problem is not the users, its windows for their shitty OS. They have the worst security out of all of them. The fact that a bunch of unpaid nerds on their free time can code something that is overall more secure than paid coders proves it.

>>60377247
Updating windows doesn't break your drivers ever, you're actually retarded

>>60382377
>Windows 10
>Updates silently download in background
>Update automatically during scheduled downtime, reopen all your apps exactly as you left them

Wow updating windows is such a hassle

>>60382403
>Run windows 7
>BF3 runs at 100 fps
>Run windows 8
>BF3 runs at 100fps
>Run windows 8.1
>BF3 runs at 100fps
>Run windows 10 before anniversary update
>BF3 runs at 100fps
>Run windows 10 after anniversary update
>BF3 runs at 16 fps
>Reinstall windows 10 to original version
>BF3 runs at 100 fps
>Windows update itself automagically
>BF3 runs at 16fps again

Yeah go fuck yourself, I can attest for a fact that windows 10 break drivers, and so far the only fix I could find is to disable the intel grphic card, reboot, and renable it to get the fps back. Worst part is that im running BF3 on the nvidia card, but for some reason windows 10 can't switch between the two.

>>60382413
>Update windows 10
>Shit breaks
Yeah so easy, totally doesn't break shit. In case you don't get the sarcasm let me tell you, it is a pain in the ass. It breaks shit, see >>60382425

>>60382425
I know exactly what's wrong with your drivers and you're retarded as fuck

It's pretty funny

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Does anyone know if the patch for security was an important or optional patch? I've kept up to date with important but I have a few missing optional ones, on W7.

>>60382440
Please tell me then dipshit, go ahead. I tried literally every fucking fix, nothing works. Go ahead, tell me so I can shit on you even more

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>>60382440
>Calling him retarded instead of educating and teaching him to fix it.
Come on, man.

>>60382470
not him but disable game dvr

>>60382485
>Disable game dvr.
Doesn't work dipshit, as I said, I TRIED FUCKING EVERYTHING. And even if it did, which it does not, It doesn't change the fact that Windows 10 Broke the god damn thing with an "update"

>>60377157
>try to update since February, failing daily
>the only solution it's to do a clean reinstall, then manually install a shitload of patches so WU works instead of getting stuck forever
kek
the shilling this ransomware has caused is stupendous.

>>60382485
My bad, thought you were the other guy, disregard the dipshit comment.

>>60377098
>winkek damage control itt

I will admit I find Windows updates pretty annoying but I try to stay on top of them anyway specifically to avoid scenarios like this.

But yes, Microsoft's inclination to make updating this much of a pain in the ass really is a huge flaw. The only reason I'm not on Linux exclusively is because vidya.

>>60382523
I didn't break jack shit. Like I told you, the OS updated itself automatically, and then it stopped working. Nothing works short of doing a fresh intstall with the windows 10 of 2 years ago, and disabling all updates.

Hi St. Lawrence. Missed you fuckers.

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>>60382288
>it's Microsoft's fault that a multi-billion dollar government agency found a juicy exploit in their software and didn't report it to them
I will never understand this retarded "Windows is the only platform that can be exploited because it's Windows MICROSHIT ON SUICIDE WATCH" horse shit from dullards who've probably never worked on a real piece of software in their life beyond simple bug fixes and CoC proofreading.

>>60377098
>somehow chose the only more expensive option there is

>>60382377
>>Download the updates in 5 seconds
>>Install the updates in the background for an hour
>>Restarts ten times for the next 3 hours to apply 1 shitty update
>>fast
>No faggot, it ain't fast
And the sysadmin does this at the click of a button after everyone has gone home. Eats pizza and watches porn for three hours while the computers are all updating, clicks a few more buttons to ensure all the systems updated successfully and then goes home.

Time is literally not an issue for workstations in a corporate environment. They have tons of time. Usually at least a third of a day they can use to install updates.

And only Feature updates require more than one restart, some security updates don't even require a restart.

>complaining your hobby isn't easy to maintain

Shit happens breh

>>60382542
The should be your biggest hint right here

>>60382567
Except that they didn't find the exploit, they put it in as a backdoor. As for the NSA, they are supposed to report such exploits to protect americans, and they used it to perform illegal surveillance instead. It is the responsability of microsoft to come out with a product that is secure. I don't expect them to have a 100% full proof locked down system, but with the amount of shit they have, they should just close shop so people can move on to diferent OS, instead of hogging the market share and forcing software companies to write softwares for it. They can go suck a dick, and so can you. Microsoft is shit, and if they can't come up with a decent OS, they should gtfo. With them gone, other OS such as linux will start picking up the market share, and more softwares can be built to run on them.

>>60377098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibLaCEL8E4E
Pajeets at Microsoft are being fucked

>>60382584
Way to go, ignore completely the fact that IT FUCKING BREAKS FUNCTIONALITIES. Still haven't got that through your thick skull.

>>60382621
>double chinned burger
>close immediately

>>60382613
Spit it out or shut up. You haven't come up with any fix, and you ain't no smartypants. Come back when you can actually come up with a solution, which I probably tried months ago.

>>60382446
Hmm, I wonder. Is a CRITICAL security flaw considered an important thing? Well, according to the many companies and people who were owned by this new ransomware it is not important. So I'm sure you can find it under the Optional category.

>>60382644
Sent :)

>>60382644
>this level of entitlement

>>60382662
There is no entitlement here, The ass head thinks he's smart, and thinks im dumb. Thinks he can fix something that I went for months trying to fix with no luck. If he thinks he knows how to fix it, then he can prove it, so i can shit on his solution for not working.

>>60377098
>doesn't like ransomware
>installs an Oracle product instead
actually no idea bout their Linux shit, 1st I'd heard of it desu - but if you feel something cold, shiny and metallic working its way up your anus during the load screen.. the invoice comes next.. dont say, you wasn't warned

>>60382403
It can since Windows started updating drivers by itself, aka Windows 10

>>60382674
Have you considered the possibility that the issue isn't the Windows 10 update itself, but some software on your system that's written improperly, but functioned on a merely incidental basis prior to said update?

What you're committing is a known logical fallacy known as "post hoc ergo propter hoc" -- which is Latin for "after this, therefore because of this."

After all, you said a fresh install seems to work. That means that something on your computer isn't jiving with Windows' update.

This same sort of thing happens on Linux, and I've been the victim of it. Although I will say on Linux it's usually easier to be incisive about exactly what is causing the problem.

>>60382702
In case you haven't read my previous comment let me rewrite this again:

One of the fixes I tried was to reinstal windows 10. A clean install. Once the install was complete I installed bf3. So far the only shit I had on the computer was firefox, bf3 and what ever comes with a vanilla windows 10. Linux mint is my main OS so I don't really have anything else installed.

Once a fresh install has been done, everything works fine. Then windows 10 updates to the anniversary update, and everything goes to shit. There is no program to interfere with anything at this point. All I have on it is windows 10 with the update and bf3. It is definitely the update, since as soon as the update is done, the fps drop is present.

>>60382628
But does it?
Have you tested it to see if it breaks a critical functionality? Or are you just complaining because sometimes an update does cause some other application to stop working (until that application is updated)?

There's also the fact that the sysadmins could have disabled SMB1 network wide in a matter of a few clicks if they didn't want to install the patch without extensively testing it first.

The claims that updating takes way too long so that's why they don't update the systems is completely bullshit though, and that seemed to be your main argument so you can be quiet now.

>>60382695
Even assuming this is actually the issue (And it isn't), you can turn driver installation off separately from windows update, so it's a shit excuse not to get updates

>>60382727
Okay yeah, then fuck that. That really does sound like the update is the issue. I mean, it's either that or Firefox is wrong. Or maybe the drivers themselves.

And the only way to check if it's Windows 10 or the drivers/hardware is to try it on a different computer, which really you shouldn't have to do because Windows ostensibly just werks with basically all hardware, sooooo

Yeah that definitely smells bad.

I am now paranoid, how do I stop being network illiterate

>>60382738
Ever since the anniversary update, it broke the fps on video games. No matter what I did, I couldn't get it to work, short of a reinstall, which fixes the issue and is once again fucked up after one of the anniversary update.

>>60382761
port scan

>>60377360
>>60377187
Updates shouldn't take more than an hour AT MOST if you do it when you're supposed to. Otherwise, it's your own damned fault.

>>60382727
I dunno if you have looked into it but check what driver version your graphics card is using (in Device Manager) to make sure it is using the Nvidia driver and not the Microsoft driver and probably try a newer/different Nvidia driver version.

Many people here have the Anniversary update installed, or are at the Creators update (including me) and haven't seen 80% FPS reduction in games so there is something fairly specific to your configuration that is causing it.

Or maybe even it is a combination of those things and BF3 in particular. I don't play those silly shooty games so I can't test that.

>>60382758
I literally went through every driver # available on the nvidia website. The problem comes from windows 10 refusing to switch to the dedicated GPU, running it on the intel hd 5500. a temporary fixes seems to work by going to device manager, disabling the intel gpu, restarting the computer, going back to the device manager and reneabling it, after which is finally sitches to the discrete gpu, but after a reboot, it stops working again and you have to redo the whole thing. At this point I just put it in hibernate whenever it works, as to not redo the whole thing. It is a ghetto fix.

>>60382776
I have been updating windows 7 for the last few hours

>>60377157
Update function has been so infamously shitty and worst in the industry for literally a decade so people have just stopped using it...

>>60382781
Already checked that. It uses the nvidia and intel drivers, not the microsoft driver. Tried every driver from intel and nvidia, in every combination possible, nothing works. BF3 is not at fault here since other games from the 2005 have a significant fps drop too, although they are old enough to be able to run on the intel graphic card at decent fps.

>>60382776
Updates shouldn't take more than five minutes if you do them when you're supposed to, and you shouldn't have to reboot for them at that.

In reality, even if you do do what you're supposed to with Windows, it takes at least fifteen to twenty minutes to update, and you need to do this at least once per week.

Compare with even the plebbiest-tier Linux distribution -- Ubuntu -- I can just sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade, type in my password, and stop thinking about it. Even if a reboot is required, it allows me to do that reboot whenever I want. It is NEVER mandatory.

Like it or not, Windows' authoritarian approach to this is an issue. It's a flaw of the operating system, not its users, period. Stop pretending otherwise. It's cringe af.

>>60382767
Completely different issue to what is facing sysadmins.

Anniversary update is a feature update. It has a shitton of changes in it. You can install security updates without installing a feature update, so even if companies are sitting pre-Anniversary update still they could roll out the security update to fix SMB.

>>60382784
you're a moron
you didn't need to update, you only needed to harden your firewall and block all the networking shit you don't use
and also, don't download and open shady shit in emails

>>60382781
Also I might add to this, like I said before, the problem comes from running two gpus, and switching between the two. You might be running on a desktop, I have a laptop, which runs different gpu for performance/power saving. Windows 10 update somehow screwed with the automatic switching, keeping it on intel all the time. Even a change in the power options couldnt fix this, by putting the preffered gpu on discrete at all time.

>>60382782
It's the nvidia power management drivers doing the switching bro

>>60382782
That really is a ghetto-ass fix. I get pretty unironically mad at Windows whenever it starts dictating to me what acceptable time frames there are for updates. Like fuck that noise.

>>60377098
You got hit by ransom ware and its Microsoft fault?
Okay bud.

>>60382812
My point was that windows update do break things. The anniversary update is an example of it.

>>60382833
You can set the time frames yourself and windows 10 even offers to let you do so

>>60382824
The nvidia power management is set to run on nvidia all the time, but it refuses to use the nvidia card, it still stuck on the intel graphic card. I know its the update and not the nvidia driver since I tried to reinstall the same version as before the update and different versions, they all don't work. There is definitely something in the update that causes the OS to refuse to switch to the discrete card. Cannot fix it through the bios/uefi either since its locked down by the manufacturer, with only a few options available.

>>60382751
Yeah, just like recent MS security updates started bricking Carrizo systems for no reason, MS literally acknowledged this and gave zero fucks
There's plenty of reasons why MS updates will eventually fuck your shit up, and there's plenty of examples of WU stopping working for no fucking reason
>>60382784
Windows 7 will never update itself unless you install a bunch of patches manually, and this doesn't even account for Microsoft's servers slowness and the inherent slowness of WU
WSUS Offline it's the only reasonable way to update Windows, but you need to keep a 10-50 GB copy of all the updates released
It's a godsend if you manage multiple systems though, but you need to set up your own tools to automate the update process
It might fail for no reason tho', but it sure as hell fails much less than WU and might save you from a clean reinstall
>>60382846
The active hours on Win10 were limited to an arbitrary amount of time, they relaxed this a bit on the Creators Update, just two years after Win10 was out
Even then it still needs to be done daily, so you are fucked if you're running something intensive/important and MS pushes an update that requires restarting (which it's pretty much every Windows update)

>>60382616
>they put it in as a backdoor.
>source: substance-less shill FUD and my own ass

The rest of this rant is so fucking infantile and retarded, do you really think any platform is immune from these kinds of bullshit exploits? They surface all the fucking time because an operating system is incredibly complex and full of all kinds of potential failure points no matter who's at the helm of it, Linux and macOS are no safer in the end, and all a mass exodus from Windows would do is redirect efforts like the recent shit show towards whatever platform the Windows userbase migrated to. Shit like this happens because Windows is the lowest common denominator with the most chance of widespread infection, not because it's fundamentally worse or better than competing platforms.

Fuck off back to /r/technology and learn to use your brain for a while, then come back and discuss things with the adults.

>>60382846
It expects me to do it in the next 24hrs or whatever. It shouldn't dictate to me that I do it at all frankly, much less let me set "time frames." Fuck that, Windows, isn't my fucking boss. It should not set deadlines. I'm pretty diligent about installing updates whenever the come out regardless, but the sheer gall of my operating system to act like it's in a position to DICTATE to me what I do at all is just fucking insufferable. It's unacceptable.

>>60382891
Source is snowden leaked documents in 2013 that shows how the nsa gets the support of top silicon valley companies to spy on people, through access to their servers as well as possibly backdoors in their softwares. Stay in the dark my friend. There is a reason why they haven't patched the vulnerability until the exploits have been leaked.

>>60382897
Windows shouldn't be your boss, but considering millions of people got hit with ransomware that was patched an entire month ago maybe they aren't pushing hard enough

>>60382859
disable igpu in bios

>>60382840
Updates occasionally break things. More news at 11.

That's not a Windows only problem. Yes on corporate networks they will test updates extensively before they roll them out, but they had time to test this. It was a critically marked update for remote code execution.

Any business that got hit by this (aside from single PCs due to users opening attachments etc, actually spreading in their network due to the SMB exploit) should fire their sysadmin staff, because they basically weren't doing their job.

I also don't feel sad at all for those companies who laid off in house sysadmin jobs and outsourced it so probably didn't get the patches due to that.

>>60382919
No such option in the bios. Like i said, its all locked down, basically the only options I have it to run in uefi/legacy mode, change the system's time, order of device execution and turn on or off secure boot
Nothing else, especially anything related to enabling or disabling hardwares.

>>60382897
>windows 10 installs an update
>need to restart your pc bro
>pick a time
>7 days later
This would still be an issue if I hadn't turned off automatic updates.
I still update about once a week.

>>60382908
Honestly I'm not even sure how people get the Ransomware to begin with. Do you have to run a suspicious executable? Is merely going on the wrong website all it takes? Is it even worse than that, and there's some vulnerability in Windows' own network-accessible services which lets people come in and execute arbitrary code?

I don't know exactly how people even get this shit. I rarely do, and on those rare occasions that I do, I take a scorched Earth approach and just delete the whole partition. I feel comfortable doing this because everything worthwhile I have -- sensitive code and shit -- is hosted on remote servers all over the place. So I've just never had to spend much time tinkering with buggy-ass software in years, or try to reverse engineer some "malware" to excise it.

I've just kind of accepted that Windows installations in particular have this kind of self-degrading, entropic effect on themselves, simply by dint of consistent use.

>>60382938
What kind of shitty motherboard do you have?

>>60382967
>Do you have to run a suspicious executable? Is merely going on the wrong website all it takes?
These are both possible methods of getting malware.

>Is it even worse than that, and there's some vulnerability in Windows' own network-accessible services which lets people come in and execute arbitrary code?
That is the case with this particular malware. It exploits a recently revealed vulnerability in SMB1 to remotely run the malware.

Also, many of these kinds of malware encrypt your files in the background, all drives connected to the computer, any new drives that connect to the computer and any network drives accessible from the computer before making themselves known to you.
I believe this one pops up the warning pretty quickly so you can just turn your computer off and save some of your files but that's not always the case.

>>60382974
Don't know, its UEFI is from insyde, but the features have been locked by the manufacturer Acer. It's a laptop. Yeah.. pretty shit.

>>60382738
Not him. Regardless of whether the update broke something or caused something to stop working is academic. The end result is: Works fine until it's updated.

I find this attitude so often in the windows community. You'll read things like 'C cleaner doesn't make your machine faster'. Sure, it doesn't but your user experience is smoother/faster when your windows machine isn't bogged down with shit. Like people arguing semantics rather than dump a pail of water on a burning man.

I maintain a family windows machine and a small network for a non-protit. I keep everything updated, but things are often broken after updates. Also the machines seem to choke on the updates and won't boot up. My linux machine, however, is far far far more stable but lacks the software needed by the machines I maintain. I run windows when needed in a vm. I wouldn't have my little gig if it weren't for windows and I'm not a windows hater but I don't run it on the metal of my own machine that I run on my own time that I value.

I have to add my enthusiasm over linux. I realize it may never be mainstream in any sense and it's probably best that it's not. I'm glad to have it to feel completely fucked with by microsoft when I spend on/with my machine.

It's kind of a complex picture but I hope I got my point across.

>>60382967
>Honestly I'm not even sure how people get the Ransomware to begin with. Do you have to run a suspicious executable? Is merely going on the wrong website all it takes? Is it even worse than that, and there's some vulnerability in Windows' own network-accessible services which lets people come in and execute arbitrary code?
In this case, most of them
The ransomware would use a RCE exploit in SMB, so it could execute itself with zero user interaction on anything that was listening to port 445 and had SMB enabled, a lot of machines are behind routers with this port blocked by default, but internal LAN's aren't protected by this
It usually would get to be executed on internal networks by common normie fuckups like opening attachments, then spread itself through the exploit
There's plenty of Flash/Java/JS exploits, this one didn't spread itself through them, but a famous case of an ad serving malware were Forbes ads in 2013

>>60382907
That's merely circumstantial doesn't prove anything, you can just as easily say that the reason the exploit was patched as soon as it was leaked was because... well gee, nobody at Microshit knew about such a thing lurking in their code, which is a pretty common occurrence because, once again, operating systems are incredibly complex and such strange edge-case bugs can go unnoticed for a very long time.

It's not even that good of a backdoor, considering you can circumvent it by simply disabling an obsolete service, using common sense and blocking the port with any shitty consumer router made in the last 15 years.

>>60382938
You have the worst kind of mobo. I have that option for my intel shit.

>>60377098
1. Automatic update turned on
2. ????
3. Profit

>>60383033
>That is the case with this particular malware. It exploits a recently revealed vulnerability in SMB1 to remotely run the malware.

Well, if my Windows 10 Botnet Edition is up to date, do I really have to worry about this?

>>60383051
They knew, the NSA is known for working with such companies to install backdoors they can use to exploit. It is more likely that they knew about the exploit than not.

If the NSA were to install a "good" backdoor, it would cause a higher security risk. That is why most of their exploits involve using multiple zero-days such as in stuxnet. One by one they might not be "good" backdoors, but used together, they can be disastrous. The point of a backdoor is to be able to access it, while others can't. The chances of someone discovering multiple backdoors to run an exploit would be harder than discovering only one.

They are known for putting in backdoors in every product, including intel and amd chips. Saying they do, especially with all the leaks recently about the NSA and CIA is more likely than saying they don't. The fact is, there are probably more backdoors put in windows by the nsa, and I'm pretty sure microsoft knows about it, but won't do anything about it until it gets exploited by the public.

>>60383067
1. Automatic update turned on
2. ???
3. Bankrup

>>60383116
You still need to maintain Common Sense pre-2018 so as to not get the malware through other means, but you shouldn't be vulnerable to it through SMB.

>>60383250
>Common Sense pre-2018

Kek, fair enough I suppose. I will say that I find it annoying that things like Avast are more likely to recognize keygens as "malware" than actual malware as malware. I realize it's a bit of a tangent but the problem normies will face is that whatever ShillScan Current Year Edition du jour that becomes popular will legitimately focus more on precluding them from pirating software than it will actually protecting them from malware.

It's not a good look.

Windows is unfit. Anybody advocating for it is a shill or a gamer, or a boomer with low brain plasticity.

There is no reason to use it.

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>>60377098
Wasn't this supposed to be patched with the march update rollup?

>>60383214
Idk, I have such a standard setup, automatic update hasn't broken anything for me. This is my fun and work computer so what's the point of all this privacy talk? I can still have my linux machine for all my browsing and torrenting needs.

>>60383128
I bet those government backdoors will be used in exploits if they aren't already, and then shit will really hit the fan.

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>>60383332
>the existence of a patch mitigates this issue
>especially when patches are so annoying that people torn them off when possible

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>>60377098
Not using TempleOs in 2017.

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Can someone please give me a tldr on how its able to spread like wildfire?

>>60383390
kill yourself faggot you are not funny

>>60383281
That's because keygens are pretty obvious in what they do or are trying to do, same with cracking tools that need to modify dlls or the exe.
Malware actively tries to hide what it is from antivirus programs.

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>>60383389
>turning off patches because they're "annoying"

>>60383397
People are stupid.

>Be windows user
>boot up laptop
>watch pre-login mountain dew ad featuring mixed couple smiling with perfect teeth and a dog running through a park
>login after being prompted with text: "Welcome. What took you so long?"
>pay daily ransomware to access my family photos
>accidentally click on calculator app
>glitches out and takes 15 minutes to kill using task manager
>click photos app
>watch pre-photo ad for rts mobile app featuring happy asian family sitting around a campfire
>finally photos app starts to load
>windows forced restart

>>60382813
>Update takes 1 second guise
>>Update is taking forever
>You don't need to update moron
Literal butthurt winfaggot fuck off my face no joke

>>60377098
> He thinks this will happen less on lonux

>>60383128
>If the NSA were to install a "good" backdoor, it would cause a higher security risk.
As if this was not risky enough? Your whole "they're just broken up to be useless on their own" point absolutely falls apart in the face of this exploit that just needed to be released onto practically any Windows network to run wild. It's a shitty exploit because it's not guaranteed to be consistently useful from outside of the network, that doesn't mean it isn't damaging inside of one, this shit can absolutely wreak hell as it is.

>They are known for putting in backdoors in every product, including intel and amd chips.
More circumstantial bullshit.

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>>60383421
Never said it was a joke.

>>60377701
ms users are retards
I don't see your point here

>>60379079
>pay 5k for a PC that does nothing
geez, thanks anon

>>60379126
kek

>>60379079
>No customization
>Part of the Mac Botnet
>Overpriced
>Cheap parts

You have to be retarded to buy a Mac. Explains why you are here. Go gargle cement.

>>60383659
>More circumstantial bullshit.
I don't know how to tell you this but the snowden leaks confirmed all this.

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>>60382413
> during scheduled downtime
Do you even know what a fucking server is faggot?

Gee, I wonder how much "scheduled" downtime there is in a 24/7 hospital.

Grow a brain.

>>60384248
dat capta is idiotic

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>>60377168
>Forced updates are the best thing to happen to normie retards.
Too bad they don't install half the time and windows doesn't warn you or provide a way to fix it. The claim automatic windows updates will save you is damage control from MS.

I mean lets get real for a moment. You install windows 10 in about 45 minutes and for most linuxes its about the same but remember. Biggest base linuxes are about 1 gigabytes or 2 while windows 10 can be more than 5 gigabytes of data. And what happens when you open them. On linux there are about 2 functional buttons, 3 are nonfunctional and in those two buttons there are some pictures to play with. Maybe slide down or up. On windows though, you feel like a god. Its professional its fast, its all functional. You have a godlike user interface. The thing that linux does not have. You have those two buttons in linux, but you still search google for codes to write in terminal. Linux is free because its not worth a penny. Nobody would sell a paper without taking the money. Just not sure why people still buy android while windows phone does 10 times more. Trust me. When you work with windows you know some genius ground breaker dedicated himself to give you an operational os

>>60384332
wat

>>60384313
>windows doesn't warn you
Windows 10 does warn you if updates fail to install.

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>>60377098
>Somehow switching from a bad enterprise company to THE WORST enterprise company is a good thing

Almsot spat out my drink

>>60380883
Windows 10 S

>>60383397
Ransomware that spreads like a worm through NSA SMB exploit
kill-switch is enabled for now, Version 2.0 has been spotted without a killswitch
over 200k PCs infected so far

>oracle
o-oh dear

>>60382403
>Updating windows doesn't break your drivers ever
just a couple days ago i helped someone with a broken windows install after updating
the cause? borked intel driver update by windows update

I am a WIN10 user and must confirm that it is pure cancer. If it wasn't for muh games I would be all over Linux. Still sometimes wish I had chosen console peasantry. If you don't play modern games you should be a linux no question. Business users have no excuses not to be linux.

>>60377098
>I own a company
>Said company has dedicated IT guy
>Our PCs are not Encrypted to begin with

What is wrong with you?

>>60385366
Kek. The ignorance.

>>60377157
Microsoft takes big part of the blame for going as far as being openly hostile to users in their attempt to drag everyone to windows 10. Now no one with a bit of brain trusts them enough to just blindly install everything they put out.

>>60377098
with pajeet you shieet

>>60377656
>>run updates
>>Software breaks

Test updates in a VM like the pros do or on a spare PC. Not hard. Everyone here has several PC unless Third World shithole. You can get free PCs easily from normies discarding them.

>>60377098
>microsoft announces that not enough people "upgraded to w10"
>reason is apparently the new forced update policy
>their entire business strategy was to make money by harvesting info from w10 systems
>their profits are way under expectations
>suddenly malware pops up based on a MS zero-day exploit that only targets non-W10 systems

gee, I wonder who will profit from this.

>>60377168
microsoft pls go

>>60377690

Hah you faggot. My mother ran Ubuntu 6.06 - 12.04 which she still runs.

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>>60385969

>>60385969
It also targeted unpatched W10 systems you dingus.

>>60385994

No it doesn't.

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>>60385969
made me think

>>60385993
>pretending to hate a great philanthropist just to get some internet points from your fellow mental health patients
the reddit generation is truly disgusting

>shilling for Oracle Linux
fuck off Patachu

>>60383332
Yes, but enterprise software is so shit that they are easily crippled by OS security patches, so IT admins have to be like "I'm testing this security patch for months before I let my users have it".

>>60377098
http://iuqerfsodp9ifjaposdfjhgosurijfaewrwergwea.com/

>>60377098
>Oracle Linux
>Oracle
Lol, have fun with that.

>>60377777

>>60377360
>1. It breaks software
>2. It takes 4 hours
1. no
2. you

fucking /g/ is filled with bait and it kinda gets annoying
don't you have anything else to thant to bait microshit bebbies into bait wars?
I don't get this mentality at all

what a fucking dumb board

>>60385366
GPU Passtrough could be the way to go