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How is this still a thing?

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> $100+

Why?
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>>60371396
monopoly
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>>60371396
It's
>da JOOs
right?
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>>60371417

Seriously, how is there not a reliable smartphone app/emulator yet?
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>>60371455
there is. but you're not allowed a fucking communication device to exams!

fucking stop and think you low-IQ retard.
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>>60371455
An emulator isnt a solution when its the only thing yourr allowed to use.
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>mfw paid only 30€ for it including shipping

Thanks little chap from Baguetteland
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I remember writing dumb messages on my class' calculators using the letters, then letting them go on standby for the next person to read it

Good times
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>>60371396
>>60371417
Monopoly, it's a complete fucking sham if you look at the what kind of specs these things posses in 2017 and what they are still charging for it.

I believe calculators are on Texas their biggest income screen. They are complete kikes for selling it at that price.

But casio can't compete with their shit designs so I don't blame them for butt fucking people.
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>>60371396
>He doesn't use a TI N-Spire CAS CX
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>>60371396
Not using infinitely superior HP-50g
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I learned to program on those TI-84 calculators in the mid 00s. I wrote a snake game and distributed it to my high school classmates, and ended up becoming the popular kid for a while because of it.
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I have a ti nspire cx cas. The thing is overprized but the solve function and desolve are great. They are really lenient with formatting compared to something like Geogebra.
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>>60373024
I can give an example of just how lenient the thing is.
I once tried using the solve function to solve the area under two different curves and what I did was I entered the integrals into the solve function and set the high and low of the integral as the value in which integral 1 - integral 2 was equal to zero, and the calculator gave me an answer.
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>>60372595
Stop posting that ugly bimbo.
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>>60371396
>attending public schools up until collage.
who /homeschooled masterrace/ here?
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Britbong here
We used these things in school. There £20 from Smith's and clones were £5
Redpilled me on whether these or TIs are better
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>>60373211
Or you could just use your calc 1 skills to solve it without a calculator you uneducated fuck
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>>60371396
collusion
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suckers are born every year
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I bought my TI-83 for $20 from a college guy who'd graduated.

It is a complete farce that these things are $100+ at retail

The only reason is because TI buys off and bribes school districts to force their expensive crap on everyone, much like textbook publishers do.
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>>60373312
Also still use a Casio
Americans are scammed
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>>60373352
I'm just giving an example of how lenient the thing is.
Are you literally retarded?
Try getting wolfram alpha to solve something like that and get back to me.
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>>60373277
I dont know, there is something about her look
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>>60372595
This
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I just found one in great shape for $5 at a flea market so this isn't a problem for me :^)
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>>60373312
>We used these things in school. There £20 from Smith's and clones were £5
those can't graph or do things like quadratic regressions
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>>60371396
>government
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>monopoly
>everyone in school over the age of 14 thinks they need one

Gee, I wonder.

>>60371455

>smartphone during tests

Okay, lad.
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>>60373311
>home schooled master race
Are you a socially inept autist?
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>>60371396
HOLY SHIT

Thanks for reminding that I own one of these and that I haven't touched it in years. Ebay here I come, I love finding money in places I didn't even think of.
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>>60373277
>Sophie Dee isn't hot as hell
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Why haven't chink clones taken over?
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>>60371542
>>60371705
>>60373024
I have a Ti-89 and it's basically the most powerful thing I can have without my professors getting suspicious.
Something with a keyboard would be great but it would draw a lot of attention. Especially since I already put some equations and notes into my 89.
Other calculators including the Ti-84 just can't compete because I need to be able to solve for imaginary numbers and integrate. My 89 passed Calculus and Diff Eq for me. Really helps in classes like Fluid Mechanics and Dynamics as well.

>>60373312
>>60377086
Schools here in the US often use ONLY Ti84s in the classroom and that's just because it makes it easier for teachers. They only need to know how to use one calculator and that's all they can teach their students. Even with a Ti-89 in highschool, enough was different that I needed to Google how to do things while the rest of the class could just follow the teacher with their 84s.
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>>60371396
>Had one in my school time
>Want one again a Ti-83 would suffice
>Still expensive as fuck
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>>60376417
He is. /home schooled submissive race/ here so I can confirm.
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>>60377350
Buy one on eBay or even better, Craigslist. I actually picked up an 84 at a Goodwill (US thrift store) for no lie, $1. Have it to my little brother who was in 8th grade at the time.
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How can TI even compete?
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>>60371542
Can this thing runs doom?
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>>60371396

I found an older model at a donation store for $5, I've seen a few end up there
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>>60377797
Yes.

>>60371396
TI forced a monopoly early on by becoming the standard in schools and for standardized tests. Most standardized tests only allow TI 83-84 calculators and most text books are written with these calculators in mind.
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>>60378054
>Most standardized tests only allow TI 83-84 calculators and most text books are written with these calculators in mind.
Which retarded country?
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>>60378115
Guess
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>>60371396
pure judaism
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>>60371396
>tfw everyone had a Casio SV-PAM and i had this TI garbage
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>>60377797
Yes.
It does also run Ultima V in full grayscale even if it's just a 1 bit display
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>>60371542
If you took an exam can you bring this in?
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>>60378823
No, because qwerty keyboard.
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>>60378823
Friends of mine loaded up the memory on cheaper ones with the written material for a bunch of their accounting exams, they'd just pretend they were doing the practical exercises instead.
Some other friends loaded them up with stuff for physics exams.
Professors are too busy looking out for people wearing a headphone and receiving their answers from some fucker outside.
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>>60372701
I wrote a side-scrolling shoot 'em up game for the TI-83 many years ago but only a few people ever downloaded it. But it wasn't a total waste of effort because I was able to use it on my resume.
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>>60378823
IDK DESU
Here in Italy for the high school final exam and so on is strictly forbidden to use any type of calculator, let alone this monstrosity.
I only use it in my Applied Electronics class since I've written a program to calculate resistors values and so it's faster to calculate shit


Guess why we're one of the worst-performing country in maths
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I have a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition that is missing a lid, it's in pretty fucking good condition though. Can I get anything for it?
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>>60371396
Wanting to jew students out of their money.
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>>60378823
It would be extremely painful.
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>>60373311
>collage
Gee, I never would've guessed you didn't go to school. Did your daddy dress you up in cute girls clothes and fuck you when he got back from work too?
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>>60371396
Its literally American
AKA ask a rediculous amount of money for something mediocre at best.
Ti T-84/5
Applel
Gillette bladez
See?
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>>60379329
You forgot Camels.
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TI bought their way deep into school systems and made it the defacto norm to have a TI calculator to the point of it being required since they can only validate so much. If they can tell at a glance that you're using an approved calculator it makes things much easier on anyone handling an exam.

So TI was able to price their calculators fairly high and still have people buy them because they had to, much like textbooks. Then as time passed and they became cheaper and cheaper to make, the price stayed the same because why lower it when you have literally no competition and everyone HAS to have your product?.
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>>60373689
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60380666
>getting triggered by the smiley with the carrot nose
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>>60380865
>being triggered by someone noticing the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60373312
HP calculators, Matlab, Mathcad - pro tier
TI calculators, Mathematica, Maple - meh tier
Casio calculators, Geogebra - toy tier
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>>60371396
Same reason textbooks are over priced. Everyone in school needs them and no competition because all schools make you use the same shit.

Too bad you can't use phones during tests, not even emulators can save us from this jewery.
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>>60373311
In Europe "homeschooling" is illegal for the most part, if you unironically refuse to send your kid to school, the kid will be seized and taken into custody and you will face charges.
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>>60380905
The smiley with the carrot nose is just smug in emoji form.
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>>60372022

The specs are irrelevant. It's all a matter of what you're allowed to take with you to standardized tests.
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>>60380932
>ti calc emu

dass piracy
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>using a graphing calculator in school
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>60380941
Europe sounds like a very authoritarian and scary place. You get arrested for thought crimes and have your children abducted if you don't send them away for state indoctrination. It sounds like north korea.
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>>60377646
>9750
>not 9860gii
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RPN master race reporting in.
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>>60381091
I would rather be indoctrinated than to have shitty parents holding me back.
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>>60381230
TI's equivalent is over $100.
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>>60371396
In the USA curriculum is built around it and it is the only thing that you can use on standardized tests. TI has no motivation to lower the price because of this.
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>>60371396
>Got mine secondhand from my older brother
>For free
I used it just yesterday ;^)
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All of my college courses have forbidden the use of graphing calculators. I'm glad I never bought one of those, they're not even necessary...
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>>60379027
It's fucking stupid to test without calculators in the real world everyone can use one.
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>>60381306
Homeschooled children in the US typically score better in everything when compared to their public school counter parts.
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>>60381359
>All of my college courses have forbidden the use of graphing calculators
What good would that do?
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Is this the most aesthetic graphing calculator?
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>>60381379
Because they're studying for an exam for an entire year, not taking classes. This doesn't mean they understand the material better.
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>>60381396
oWo
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>>60371396
There's only one manufacturer in the world that still knows how to make displays that shitty.
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>>60381400
What do you think public school kids do? I switched over to a home school program in high school and that shit was was miles ahead of what I was doing. And since my program didn't have lesson plans for advanced math and science I had to take that at the community college anyways. Not sure if you're from the US or not, but our public system is absolute garbage unless you're from a rich neighborhood (I wasn't)
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>>60381305
Mah nigga

>>60381396
no
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>>60371705
>not writing a program that prints FUCK NIGGERS over and over again in an infinite loop and watching them scramble to press all the buttons trying to stop it

You weren't a very edgy teen were you?
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>>60371424
Kys kike
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>>60373024
Forget that, you can do indefinite integrals and derivatives.
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>>60371396
I actually lost one of those once they are terrible.

Not to mention once you hit the second semester of year 10 basically everything you learn in maths is how to use the calculator to solve problems for you.

High School is free yet it is still not worth it.

Maths
>Taking 2 units because one is not enough to learn calculus.
>One teacher is a fat old Pajeet who can barely walk, and is so bad at English he doesn't know what the word for purple is. Always complains about how "in India we learned this in year 4".
>The other is a stressed out middle aged woman who can't deal with the fact that I miss two lessons a week because of TAFE and my apprenticeship. She expects us to somehow magically know proofs without having been taught.

Physics
>Teacher is a weird millennial ginger with the beginnings of what appears to be a Jewfro.
>Comes up behind me during an experiment and draws on my hand with red ballpoint.
>Says my hands are like a baby's and that I should be a hand model.
>A term later kicks up a stink because I will be at work on a test day "for all I know you could just be sitting at home touching yourself" he says in front of the whole class.
>Thinks my laptop is touch screen and friccin pokes that shit when he is reviewing my assignments.
>What a Gaylord
>The entire subject is just plugging things into kinetics equations with prime suspect number one the TI-84 calculator

All the other subjects are actually alright. Too bad Maths and Physics are so shit here in Australia. I ended up graduating a year and a half early without an ATAR because I couldn't be bothered.
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>>60381811
Nice. I think ti's are overpriced to.
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>>60371417
HP has calcys
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>>60381975
Yeah, so does Casio. TI's still got a monopoly on the education market. I've even taken classes where I wasn't allowed to use my calculator because it was an HP and not TI.
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>>60381355
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60371396

Because only retards still buy graphing calculators. Everyone either gets one from an older sibling/cousin or just buys a scientific.
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>>60382273
EVERY GODDAMNED PHONE MADE HAS AN APP FOR THAT
FUCKING IDIOTS GTFO
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>using graphing calculators
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>>60379137
It's a big calculator
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>Not using the best graphing calculator of them all
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>>60378115
>Texas Instruments
>Texas

really gets my noggin' joggin'
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>>60382505
Sure I could use the app but that's not too much fun on a 3.1" 1:1 screen. Plus touchscreens suck.
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>>60381306
>>60380941
>>60381400

Typically was homeschooling in America your parent is the one that's teaching you they know you better than any of the teachers at school are going to know you or be able to teach to you, usually of the new rank a lot higher than public school kids outside of the ones I would excel no matter what so long as their given material. The only real disadvantage to homeschooling would be a lot of the kids come out of it socially and not because they've never had to deal with people that are shitty for that long. But so long as you enroll the kid in extracurricular class or activity that introduces them to other kids they're generally better off.
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>>60377350
>>60377479
If you want a more advanced calculator the best place to look for one is finding out which ones can't be used on a standardized test those ones retain absolutely no fucking value whatsoever, but are generally far more powerful than the ones that are using standardized tests.
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>>60381305
RPN is the fixie bike of the calculator world. unnecessary, reduced features, and all to be contrarian

a casio fx is all you need for school. everything else use octave
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>>60381811
All the math I ever had in high school they taught you how to do it once, after they could prove you knew how to do it yet were allowed to use a calculator to solve it because it's just faster, and in the real world you're never going to do the shit by hand anyways.
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>>60382505
>>60383354
I'll second the touchscreen suck, even if it was objectively better to use the phone instead of a calculator I'd still rather use a calculator just because I prefer tactile buttons I can never get used to a phone's touchscreen and I can never get used to a phone pretty much anything, give me a pan and then were talking I actually like penable displays but most phones can't use pens and the ones that are made for them are finger size.
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>>60378735
>>60371542
holy fucking shit tear my asshole apart and call me nigeaux what is that? looks fucking godly
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Peasants.

All of you.
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>>60382563
4u
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>>60381811
Maths and Physics are shit everywhere because the people who teach them are always Grade A+++ autists with no social skills.
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>>60371396
idk why, using the best calc out there worth only 2$.
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>>60383749
>using the common "everypleb" calculator

I bet you don't even know how to use the "M" buttons.
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>>60383545
>not RPN
>calling others peasants
kek
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>>60383848
I was joking i know you guys are srs.biz on /g/
>I bet you don't even
I don't, what does it do?
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I used a Casio fx-115 ES for a while, It didn't do graphs but it could print tables, and was able to solve equations using the correct order of operations.
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>>60383848
>M key
>Not STO&RCL
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>>60373457
>wolfram alpha
You literally use your calc 1 skills to do that.
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>>60384085
My point is that you'd have a hellish time even attempting something like that with wolfram alpha in comparison to the nspire.
Are you actually genuinely so autistic that you don't understand this or are you just pretending?
Do you really never play with your calculator just to see what you can get away with?
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Oh hi, I'm the calculator actual adults use.
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>>60384233
does anyone have a picture similar to this with like tier-lists and shit?
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i don't really remember how i got mine, maybe from a swap meet or a thrift store, i basically got it for nothing. obviously used but it worked and got me through the college classes i needed a graphing calc for. i just gave it away to my friend's younger bro who now needs one.
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just buy one at a pawn shop or on craigslist.

if you buy a TI calc new you're a fucking retard.
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Why do you even need that? I'm just fine with this.
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>>60378735
>even if it's just a 1 bit display
how
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>>60387982
Alternating them on and off very quickly to the point it looks dim
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>>60381230
you can just flash the firmware on the 9750gii to the 9860gii.

Did that with mine when i was using it for maths class.
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>>60378547
>Biology
Wat, I never needed a calculator for A level Biology.
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>>60371455
How have you never heard of wabbitEmu you fucking retard
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>>60382273
I got one from my girlfriend
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>>60371424
Actually yes. Parent company was literally founded by a jew.
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>>60383884
This thing got me through algebra and calculus
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>>60377646
this nigga right here
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>>60371396
They got teachers and textbooks to shill for them for free
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Fucking love this calculator.
Used this throughout my schooling life.

I met some weird guy who had developed some games for it so I have those on there and I also developed a text adventure game on it out of boredom at school.

Whenever a teacher would show us how to do something on a graphing calculator they would only show how to do it on a TI, but it wasn't too hard to figure out how to translate the directions to Casio.
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>>60381305
>saw one (20 S) at a swapmeet once
>bought it for $10
>get home and put batteries in
>IT'S ALGEBRAIC
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University only let me use scientific calculators. No graphing calculators at all.
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Are there some Chinese clones with CAS?
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>he NEEDS a calculator
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>>60383877
it saves a number (M= memory)
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>>60383545
comfy tier
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Just use this
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>>60371396
The only calculator I use.
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>>60380932
we used casio calculators, only a handfull of my classmates had TIs
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>>60392094
i used that bad boy in 5th grade
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got it for like $12
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>>60371396
>He didn't get an HP 50G instead
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Still the best calculator ever made.
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>>60381305
RPN is the true master race. Brainlets hate this one weird trick.
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>>60381396
Nope, it doesn't even support plotting to a wireless printer.
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>>60393050
50G is going to be discontinued some day soon and the price will *SHOOT UP* like with the 42s.
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>>60393528
It's been """discontinued""" since 2013 and prices have NOT shot up, literally nobody wants them.
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>>60380967
it has open source roms lol
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>>60376378
>graphing calculator during tests
Okay, lad.
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Regulation based monopoly. I'm not a fucking ancap or whatever the fuck those fags call themselves but since the SAT won't allow you to bring anything other than a Ti-83/84 to the exam, you're gonna buy what they allow.
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>>60384233
maybe in 1980
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>>60394585
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/sat/taking-the-test/calculator-policy

Stop repeating mindless edgelord rhetoric without even attempting to fact check it.
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>>60371424
>T. Goldstein Shekelberg
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>>60371482
Lmao parasite undergrads found.
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>>60371396
Scotfag here,

Am I missing something? I had to pay £10 for my scientific calculator and I just bought it from my school
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>>60371396
Former math teacher here. There's several factors. Some legitimate, some not.

* Graphing calculators have a battery life measured in months if not years.

* Even though any smartphone has a hundred apps with a hundred times the functionality of a graphing calculator, you can't use a graphing calculator to text in class, send photos of tests to friends, or get wolframalpha to do your work for you.

* TI's are great for numeric calculations and plugging values into functions and graphing. They're nigh-useless for any kind of symbolic manipulation. This is the sweet spot of capability if your intention is to facilitate *learning* symbolic manipulation (i.e. algebra).

* TI is in bed with Big Textbook. Almost every textbook comes with instructions for using TI calculators right in the lessons. This means teachers can say "just read the textbook." Teachers love this.

* For most math teachers sending an email with a document attached is a monumental technical achievement. Learning how to use more than one kind of calculator is an inconceivably arduous prospect.

* Because you *have* to buy one for school, TI can charge whatever they want.
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>>60377308

>your school let you use a graphing calculator in calc and diff eq.
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>>60391233
Had one of those in high school for algebra II and geometry. Great user interface and super useful for dealing with fractions and surds. Also had a decent scripting language, but was slow as balls in drawing graphs (somewhat ameliorated by the multiple colors though).
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>>60396961
hell yeah bro.

The colors were the best.
I spent a lot of time customizing the three graphing colors to be as a e s t h e t i c as possible
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>>60371396

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoGl8-Wc-L0

basically monopoly
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>>60377308
You're allowed a graphing calculator in university math courses? Even calculus?

>Schools here in the US

Ahh

>American """"""""""""""""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoGl8-Wc-L0
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jews
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Help me
Fx-570plus or fx-991plus ?
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>>60377308
>My 89 passed Calculus and Diff Eq for me.

>tfw I passed calc 4 with a casio fx 260 because I'm poor.
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>>60371396
I put the additional battery in mine then hid all the progz in archive
this bypassed the mem wipe from undoing the batteries.

these are expensive cause monopoly
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TI graphing calculators are pretty much shoehorned into the same category as college textbooks. I've had shitty low level math profs demand we get this particular model, TI 81? TI 83? NOOOOO You must spent 1oo dollars on a brand new TI 84 along with this 130 dollar Trigonometry text book.

In other words, Texas Instruments is clearly cued in with this whole academic material scam would
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>>60380967
copyright violation is illegal but not immoral
as long as you dont get caught it's fine
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>>60393528
>>60393598

The 50g is literally just a 48G+ with a new processor.

The 48G does EVERYTHING that the 50g does, just slower because it came out in 1993.

People all buy 48G on ebay for hundreds because the keys are better and there are many engineering programs written for them. (search hpcalc.org)
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>>60400643
I have a 50g and the keys are quite nice compared to other calculators. Wonder how much better the 48G feels in comparison.

I wonder when HP is going to release a new version of the 35s.
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Can we just start using these as currency now? Price never drops
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>>60401025
price does not equal value anon
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>>60371396
test
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>>60371396
>be me in highschool final year applied mathematics
>last math class of my time in HS
>class requires a graphing calculator
>decide to see what Android emulators look like
>grab Wabbitemu
>screw around with it for a bit before class actually gets in full swing
>is fine
>enter math class
>assignment time
>used emulator for a little bit until this rookie mistake:
>"Hey <teacher> is it alright if I use an emulator" or something along those lines
>"no anon you can't because you can communicate"
>teacher was still sort of based and acknowledged how cool emulators are
>but at the end of the day she still needed to enforce rules
>cease because I didn't want to cause too much of a scene otherwise
Go fuck yourselves, Texas Instruments. This was a little while after I watched the based LGR video all about how shady TI is. Luckily for me through some various connections I got a hold of someone else's that they weren't gonna be using anyways, so none of my money (or parents') ever went to them in the first place for a brand new one.

I also found out through a little bit of digging that you can in fact actually equip one of these things with a wireless radio and you can effectively "communicate" between it and something else, I think it was through Bluetooth. It seems like it'd require a bit of setup, but if you can set such a thing up and actually bring it in to something where communication would ACTUALLY be an issue (like a test or exam, but the issue was because of just some textbook shit) and actually not get detected and can cheat your way through, you should deserve to pass.
Here's that very video as a matter of fact, just pair your stuff before the exam (try and do it discreetly for obvious reasons), walk in, then have the person with a phone sit conveniently near the test/exam location and feed you answers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWa6manhKcQ

What a joke that "nothing that can communicate with other things" rule is when I realized you could do that.
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>>60371417
>>60371455
>>60371482
Shady tactics like Texas Instruments and College Board deciding what calculator brands are allowed.

I bet a calculator company that is not Texas Instruments could sue College Board into allowing more calculator brands or smartphones onto exams.

Basically, nobody has sued yet.
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>Not using Wolfram|Alpha
Are you seriously going to let someone cuck you into paying hundreds of dollars for a useless piece of shit just because he gets paid a pittance to stand up and talk at you?
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>>60401524
if you have texts/exams which do not allow phones or internet acces, you'll need to know how to use a physical calculator
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>>60391720
kek
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>>60401413
My teachers just let me use wabbit emu back in high school , they didn't care.
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>>60400643
The 50g has USB, which is nice, and the SD slot instead of retard-money proprietary expansion slots. It's also 3-100x faster depending on what you're doing.

>>60400994
>Wonder how much better the 48G feels in comparison
Marginally. The 48 series keyboard was a step down from the 41 and 28 series keyboards.
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>>60401524
>needing the internet to do your calculations
>using a device that doesn't have a battery life measured in months
>etc
shit it's pleb tier as fuck in here
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WP-42s enhanced HP-42s clone coming soon.
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>>60401413
Back in the day the HP-48 series had decent enough IR to communicate at across-the-room distances, worked a treat as a universal remote, too.
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>>60374597
But really, why would you use a calculator for that? I don't know how americans do their thing, but here in europe there is absolutely no use for these things. We use simple scientific calculator and when there is a need we use computers. Using a graphing calculator seems like a cosplay/steampunk thing, to be honest.
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>>60371396
Maybe try to get a used one on Ebay you fucking sperglord. Seriously, I see them for like 40 USD or less for an 83+. I imagine pawn shops would be at a similar price point.

If you pay full retail for a device that is essentially indestructible, you need to get your fucking head examined. There are literally millions of these fuckers floating around for cheap.
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>>60380941
w-what if they ironically do it..?
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>>60402171
Most graphing calculators have a CAS these days, so they're useful for all kinds of tasks. A calculator is useful because it's small enough to always take with you, if you're an engineer or scientist or mathematician or whatever, and it'll run for a long time on batteries.

A lot of people still like their HP-48 series calculators because they interface with anything with RS-232, you can use them for data collection or even as a terminal to log into a computer in the field.
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>his computer isn't 128 bit
>neither is his calculator
bitlets, when will they learn
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>>60402333
I am honestly interested, who use these things? Being in engineering industry I've never encountered anyone who would use such a calculator.
This seems super innefficient. I don't really imagine a scenario where one would use a graphing calculator. If you are solving an engineering problem, you will use a simple scientific calculator + paper. If the problem if more complicated you will use computer.
I might be missing something. What would be realistic scenarios?
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>>60402392
>I am honestly interested, who use these things? Being in engineering industry I've never encountered anyone who would use such a calculator.
All kinds of people in engineering, computer science, communications, banking, finance, physics, land surveying, and so on use calculators every day. I'm a little shocked that you never run across people who use calculators. Bear in mind the mere capability for plotting and graphing doesn't imply this is their major use case. Most people don't touch it but the bigger screen is nice for matrices and so on.

>This seems super innefficient. I don't really imagine a scenario where one would use a graphing calculator. If you are solving an engineering problem, you will use a simple scientific calculator + paper. If the problem if more complicated you will use computer.
You don't know how RPN makes it very easy to play with numbers and calculations, do you. This is the problem with being a postfix-let. You don't know what you're missing.

>I might be missing something. What would be realistic scenarios?
For me RPN / RPL is one of the major reasons I like to use a calculator over a computer. This entry and calculation method makes it really easy to do repeated calculations with different inputs, go back and "undo" your steps, and write short programs as easily as entering calculations manually. I'm a radio ham and RPN / RPL is useful for my experimental activities, the HP-48 series comes with a bunch of built in physics tools and a periodic table which is useful if you're into physics, radio, electronics, hydrology, etc.

If you're working on an oil pipeline or a survey line or something like that and are away from civilization you're probably not going to want to carry or fool with smartphones or laptops or touchscreen tablets to do your work either. Land survey equipment is still being made to interface with the HP-48 and HP-50G.
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>tfw Hari Seldon used an RPN calculator
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>>60396858
TI calcs are all modal and it's really hard to move between different types of math and make it all work together, this is one of my biggest complaints.

HP's RPN/RPL environment makes it easy to do this on the other hand, because no matter which features you're using everything happens on the stack. RPN has a reputation for being hard to learn but I think it's easier to actually use once you spend one hour, one time, learning how it all works together.

Sadly HP is moving away from this with their new Prime calculator, it's a full color gee-whiz thing which has a relatively short battery life and is hard to program and use, with a kind of strapped-on RPN front end which is strictly optional.
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>>60383542
It's a TI-92 Plus, basically the same exact calculator they sell today except from the 1990s and in a larger, landscape format with a much better screen.

Batteries last longer too, my wife uses one and I installed lithiums like 2-3 years ago, still going strong.
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My high school gave out TI 84's to all students to keep. My university gave each engineering student a TI 36x Pro. I use what is free to me.
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>>60402761
>I use what is free to me.
It's doubtful you'll get a micronized HP calculator clone made of titanium in Switzerland for free anon.
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The calculators and their programming languages are shit.

CAS like Jupyter show a glimpse of how good our maths software could be if all the money wasn't flushed down the TI/HP/... drain.
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>>60402954
RPN keystroke programming is more or less identical to assembly anon.
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>>60371396
Don't buy one if you don't need to.
In the rare case that you need one, you can borrow one for free at the schools library, but they have been obsolete for a decade now.

You have a shitty education system if using a laptop is not allowed, yet a calculator is.
Either you should solve math problems with no help at all, or anything goes.
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>>60371396
I bought one used for 20€
Git gud
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>>60403019
I'm sure there was an assembly dialect this shitty before, but that doesn't excuse devices that had decades to get better.

And the higher level languages HP and Ti "designed" also are trash.
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>>60403142
>I'm sure there was an assembly dialect this shitty before, but that doesn't excuse devices that had decades to get better.
It's perfectly understandable to normies, anon. The user interface of HP calculators and keystroke RPN had a lot of thought and research put into it.

>And the higher level languages HP and Ti "designed" also are trash.
TI BASIC and variants range from utter shit to decent for the time. HP's RPL is a brilliant environment and once you know how to use it everything else feels cripplingly bad. Some French hacker put together development tools for the 48G series and HP included it in the 50G, it's really great actually. If you like you can also compile whatever you with with GCC or even run it on the 50G of course. There is also a new effort, now mostly finished, to implement a new ground-up but 48/50 compatible RPL environment which is more portable, but this is targeting the 50G for now despite the idea that it will run on other hardware in the future.

Brainlets need not apply, as usual.
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>>60371396
Not on this side of the pond.
Also why do you even need graph cals for high school tier math??? We were banned from using them during exams anyway and the first time we were allowed was in uni but by then everyone was just using Matlab on a laptop.
I guess it was the "If you can do it by hand you can do it with tech later" approach...
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>>60402504
I see a lot of people who use calculators. But when have to do some calcuations they usually break out excel. I mean, endless grids, formulas till you drop. When integration, differentiation is involved and CAS is generally needed they resolve to mathcad/matlab and something similar.
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This calculator is shit. The lag is unbearable and the touchpad is horrid. TI Nspire cx
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If phones with physical keys are "obsolete", then why do they still make calculators, rather than just turning them into app form?

#everythingasanapp
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>>60403073

Scientific or graphing calcs are literally a required item for many college math courses, and laptops are not allowed in testing environments for obvious reasons.
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>>60381305
Yo
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>>60405934
I would go to HP if it weren't for being forced to use TI calculators. Every school forces people to use TI calculators (and in my school, it's a TI-30, not even a 84)
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>>60405961
Truth be told ive used this calculator for years on the trading floor.....its very durable, and fast, but the fucking buttons dont work from time to time.
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>>60384193
>wolfram alpha
>not using mathematica like a big boy
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>not buying a TI MSP430 and making your own calculator
this is why all of you suck at life
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>>60371396
I think it's because nobody remembers how to make displays that crappy anymore
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>>60378950
Seems so risky to have shit on your calculator, hello academic penalities.
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>>60371417
How do those Parker brothers sleep at night...
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anything is better than this trash
I mean in theory it is ok
but the buttons suck
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>>60377308
>Fluid Mechanics and Dynamics
I hated that class. Most pointless class I was ever forced to take.

But: I passed with an A, exactly because of the TI-89.

What country are hou from?
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>>60377308
>My 89 passed Calculus and Diff Eq for me.
What the fuck?

Your school let you use a TI-89 during exams? You needed a TI-89 for CALCULUS?
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>>60408712
The only difficult part of calculus is the algebra. Setting up integrals is easy
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I use Mathcad and Matlab, but I do have a HP prime calc for no other reason than autism.
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>>60408651
what is shown here on screen?
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I would love a scientific calculator that has backlight. But as far as I know there are none.
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>>60408651
I have this calculator. How do I access this screen? Are there any interesting "hacks"?
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Literal monopoly. TI pays educational institutions to disallow competitors.
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>>60388713
>contains ads
DROPPED
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>>60410666
Not in my machine :^)
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>>60406408
I think you mean big goy
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>>60411268
4 u
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>>60404330
But it can run Linux.
Sure it's useless and overpriced but heh.
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/15/test-approved-app-could-kill-off-the-graphing-calculator/

TEXAS JEWSTRUMENTS BTFO
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>>60409565
Casio makes one for the land survey market now. Waterproof, backlight, and same OS they've used since the 80s.
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>>60413347
that looks quite sexy
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>>60413347
what is the sd card for? can id display meme pictures or run linux from it?
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>>60383545
Shit calculator. The buttons suck. Casios are generally better in every respect.

You are all just nostalgic for your dumb middle school calculators that TI jewed you $40 for. Maybe if you spent $100 you'd like it even more.
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>>60392094
>The only good TI
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>>60387982
1 bit is either 0 or 1 so each pixel is either on or off
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>>60414281
Storing programs.

>>60415150
Pretty sure he was asking how the 1-bit display manages grayscale, not how a display can be 1-bit.
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>>60371424
I love this meme. It triggers /pol/ autists every time.
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>>60401524
i paid only $1 for mine.
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>>60392094
Ohhhh that takes me back to elementary school wow
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>>60408657
I actually enjoyed both of them and I felt dynamics was pretty pertinent to engineering in general! Fluids I doubt I will use though.

>>60399603
And yet I was just hired on by a German Engineering as an intern for $20/hr over a huge group of German students and I go to the University of Alabama. So German universities can't be all that great if a German Engineering firm is taking students from the National Football champs over it's homeland.

>>60400397
Kek, needing four classes for calculus. I don't know any decent colleges that don't teach Calculus in over three classes. And three dimension calculus is just vectors so it's not any harder than two dimensional calculus.

>>60408712
It wasn't that I needed it. Think of it more like, it would have taken you 30 minutes to solve a complex integral and it took me 30 seconds. Why make it hard on yourself. And we couldn't during Calculus 1 and 2 anyways. But those were super simple intervals and derivatives on the test to just showcase the basic understanding so it only took five minutes of studying to get an A.

>>60396948
>Letting your school cuck you into using a scientific calculator
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