Why did Intel put terrible TIM on the 7700K?

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>>60357461
That sounds like a good title for a children's book. "Intel and the tale of the terrible TIM."

>>60357461
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>>60357540
>dumb kids

The thermal paste is excellent and made to last many years. You'll see no performance increase with other thermal pastes. The only exceptions are if you slam the ihs onto the die or use some metal based tim.

>>60357461
Does the stock/after market cooler make good contact with the die after the delid?
It does look like they wouldn't touch properly on the die

>>60357695
thats what im wondering, personally i get really solid temps with a 45 dollar air cooler and some cheap noctua paste. barely hit the 70s under heavy load at 4.8ghz and 1.2V but ill do it if i can get a bit more speed for a few more bucks.

>>60357461
>>60357461
They are Jews

>build a lot of identical very fast chips because its economic to do exactly the same thing again and again.
>box them up, send to off to the lidding factory

>at lidding factory, invent whole set of new TIMs.
>Names vary from "fusion core containment" to "space shuttle insulation paste", to "I found this in my ear" to "its OK"

>use worst first, better later. Voila, market segmentation and sequencing.

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>>60357461
>>60357540
>>60357695
>>60357741

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>>60357592
lol.

>>60357461
I think I read somewhere that iridium solder on a small die (smaller than intel HEDP stuff) can lead to cracking

To save precious shekels, of course.

>>60357461
>during pre-athlon64 and pentium4 all the procs have no IHS and barenaked chips.

You know, I still miss my athlonxp 2k days, except for their shitty cooler and TDP.

>friend gets new cpu for pc
>pre ihs days
>cracks it with his heatsink
>$300 gone in an instant.

Didn't realize till later how delicate that Era of cpu were. Now if we could only get And to stop using pins...

>>60358275

Yes, over long periods of time with very wild swings in temp, or in other words, never gonna happen for you to care about it. It's just bullshit excuse for Intel to cheap out on TIM. People forgot that there are 10+ year old soldered CPUs that are a smaller die than the current Intel line up. They still work with good thermals, who would have thought?
Following the solder logic, wouldn't the TIM eventually degrade as well through constant expansion and contraction? Through rapid temp spikes? (cough cough)

>>60357461
DELET THIS

>>60357461
So that when they release their next faggotlake chips they can show 10-20c drops in temps and use it in the marketing.

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>>60357592
>Metal based TIM

You mean like solder? AMD has got you senpai!

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>>60357461
The TIM itself isn't bad, it's just that on some cpus the distance between the IHS and the die is too large due to manifacturing variation. This causes the termal contact between the die and IHS to be quite bad (since TIM is a poor conductor of heat) leading to high temps.

>>60363041
1.) the fucking house fire meme has been disproven many times

2.) speaking of solder, classic JB Weld has fucking excellent thermal transport characteristics. i often use it on "last build" computers if im out of or dont want to waste good paste... ya know that old athlon or p4 your only gonna put back together one last time? works a treat. fuck id love to see it used on a 7700k with a kill 50 dollar air cooler

>>60357461
Delid this, delid this Inside ™
>I CAN'T DELID
Delid this Inside ™
>SAVE MEEEE