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>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39899646

The English healthcare system is in shambles after a 'large scale cyberattack' took down its phone and computer systems today.

Opinions? Who would do this, how, and what possible motive could there be?
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>nobody cares
>install gentoo like the rest of /g/ xD
>Ryzen though hehe

/g/ is shit
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basic ransomware just use a removal tool btw
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>>60345661
If it's because of the Snooper's charter allowing the government to make a backdoor somewhere, I'm going to laugh and then promptly hope the conservatives go back on that law.
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>>60345661
AMA

Took it down mainly for the lels.
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>>60345661
>why would anyone want to know the heath, payment choices, genealogy of an entire country?
are you being retarded? literally any nefarious digital entity would love to have that type of information its probably at least worth tens of millions of pounds at wholesale prices

>centralized heath data gets fucked over
ya dont say
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This could kill a lot of people, theoretically - if they dont fix it ASAP it could be really, really bad. Kind of a world first, isnt it?

does anyone know what the deadliest purely-cyber attack in history is so far?
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>>60345757

i feel like only state actors would have a use for that kind of information, i dont think some random individual hacker would go for it

unless theyre planning to sell it to China or Russia or something
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>>60345710
>holding an entire country's healthcare system hostage for $300

This has to have been an accident, right? Surely if the hackers knew what they were hacking they would have asked for a LOT more?
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>>60345760
i assume that something has already happened somewhere but the entity that was victimized downplayed it. there was the whole debacle with peoples "smart" shit getting taken and used to ddos social media sites but that didnt kill anyone.

>>60345777
maybe its a ransom group yah I could see that. But i agree some kind of state actor seems probable, then again maybe its just one agency or particular groupd within a country and not "authorized" nevertheless this is a perfect example why centralized medicine is a retarded idea. i feel bad for the brits right now
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>>60345808
I think it's $300 per infected machine, and they're probably all infected by now.
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>>60345840
I can confirm it isn't on every machine, just on the central server, I work in the NHS
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>>60345808
$300 per machine. Your average hospital will have hundreds of individual computers, all networked in to the country-wide NHS system. We're talking the national healthcare system for 65,000,000 people.
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>>60345808
Pretty much. Some dipshit put this ransomware on a drive and came into work and it spread.

>>60345710
You need the private key dipshit.
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>>60345824
i dont think the takeaway is necessarily that centralized medicine is a bad idea, just that if you ARE gonna have it you should have mil-spec computer security surrounding it
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Largest spanish ISP got hit too, as have a couple other European organisations.

Might be a zero-day exploit, since it seems to attack with impunity.

>>60343547
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>>60345710
That's a stock photo my friend
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LOL BRITKEKS
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>>60346014

It is a stock photo, but the attack is of the same ransomware (WCry). NHS staff have posted pictures of it on twitter and reddit
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>>60345876
Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Trust admitted in an FOI request to having over ten thousand machines running XP even though their extended support deal ran out over two years ago.
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>>60345876
What? The main server got hacked. That's one machine.
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Doctors are mostly old (40+)
I guess its unsurprising the NHS has such an uninformed approach to cybersecurity. I bet this mistake won't happen again though.
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>>60346060
Look at Twitter. NHS staff members are posting photos of personal workstations being encrypted.
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>>60345955
>just that if you ARE gonna have it you should have mil-spec computer security surrounding it
why did NHS not have that already??? and i understand your point that is too broad of a statement, let me get it more on point then.
65M peoples health and genealogy information should not be able to be accessed in one place.
anytime the dr asks me if I want paperless lab results/email notification I always make sure to sign the extra forms saying NAH bc fuck having my health data sent via http bought by the shit budget of a clinic. either way I wonder if someone will actually get in trouble for this bc holy shit is that not a big fuck up, i bet its spookitime for brits right now
>>60346039
>>60345992
BTFO they are fucked
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>>60345690
>Anime
Hi.
Go to hell.
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>>60346119
pay denbts
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>>60346095

They aren't accessible in one place - there is no way to get patient records or information from the central compromised server. The NHS Trust have said that no patient information has been accessed.

However what you CAN do is remote install ransomware that locks up all of the information rendering it unusable.

And I think its a fair bet that the UK cybersecurity departments are going to make sure that if the culprits *can* be found, they will be found. British SigInt is world class.
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>>60345661
I wish Microsoft could be held liable for this.
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>>60346119
kill yourself
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I wouldn't be surprised if once the ransomer wakes up and realises what he's done he panics and immediately releases all the computers for free

My guess is that he wanted a couple thousand bucks, not to cripple a countrys infrastructure and indirectly murder hundreds
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Could it have been 4chan the hackman?
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>>60346222
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>>60346186
by no coincidence anime is very much entrenched with satanic bs and degeneracy like that pic. neck yourself
>>60346172
>the NHS Trust have said that no patient information has been accessed.
can we really trust them?
>They aren't accessible in one place - there is no way to get patient records or information from the central compromised server.
i mean I would think not but lets pretend the attack was worse would they really say "ya we got pwnd 100%" ? i would think they would lie if that happened but I would hope that there protections against that sort of thing would be more secure, BUT in the USA too agencies like HUD "misplaced" 500million so I dont put anything passed be possible for giant state agencies in any country. for the brits sake hopefully its just ransom
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>>60346202
Nah, this looks like a coordinated attack. A flood of Spanish and Portuguese ISPs are also reporting WCry.
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>>60346119
>Go to hell.
Where do you think we are?
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>>60346261
if anythinbg it looks NOT coordinated and just a shotgun approach
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>>60346247
Back to plebbit
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Why is this even called a hack or a cyber attack? It sounds more like some idiot opened an email attachment or something.
>NHS Digital said the ransomware attack was not "specifically targeted at the NHS" and was affecting other organisations.
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>tfw because of this Thinkpads w/ Gentoo become mandatory in all UK Government offices and the country becomes entirely led by techy geniuses with ridiculously high-spec equipment

Y E S
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>>60345710
It's easy to remove it but that won't bring the files back.

And while I'd like to hope that everything is backed up and ready to be completely restored in a matter of hours and blahblahblah... the NHS is severely underfunded right now. It's not looking good.
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I bet they were using Windows 10
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>>60345992
ex MI6 on sky news blamed on windows XP

*inhales*
hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahaahahahahahah
ahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
ahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
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>>60346325
some were still on XP. X fucking P!
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>Some men just want to watch the world burn
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>>60346358
>some

Not some. See >>60346039, there are entire hospital trusts still using it. They all paid Microsoft for the extended XP packages because apparently ten million dollars for one more year of support was a smarter option than just upgrading.
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>>60346343
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How safe is the perpetrator?

Obviously almost all ransomware hackers are never caught, but might things be different if an entire country's cybersecurity forces start working on the case?
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>>60346358

Quite a bit of the NHS appears to be on XP
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>>60346400
Someone's going to be skinned alive. GCHQ is arguably the most competent state intelligence organization in existence, and an attack on the British medical system, incidental or not, is guaranteed to fall under their purview.
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>>60345661
>Some idiot employer downloaded porn.mp4.exe and installed it
>IT guys will just restore a backup
>We got "hacked"
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>>60346400
GCHQ are the real deal
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>>60346449
so telefonica and the NHS both installed porn on their central servers? on the same fucking day
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>>60346449
>backups

um... unless they make backups of the entire system literally every hour then this is very serious
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>>60346491
That would be a reasonable thing to do for healthcare systems, in my opinion. But I severely doubt it was actually done.
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>>60346491
>backup are not infected
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>>60346479

Telefonica UK has NHS support contracts.
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>>60345661
It was Russia obviously.
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As long as the radiology and pharmacy machines aren't infected, this really shouldn't be that bad. Just a logistical nightmare for a day or two. This is why wifi-enabled stethoscopes are a bad thing tho. MRIs and the like should be connected one-way only, output and absolutely no input.
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>>60345661
Seems to me the solution is to build unhackable systems.
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BBC just said it's effecting all versions of windows that are being used from vista up to server 16/windows 10
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>>60346784
Nice meme
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The Apple Macbook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have this problem.
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>>60346586
Why did it take this long to say this?
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Why doesn't the NHS have some kind of backup for patient data?

Seems like something like this was bound to happen
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what a time to be alive
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People will literally die because of this, operations are being cancelled. So fucked up.
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>>60345661
>Black Cock news
probably lie
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>britbongs are going to die because some retard brought in a USB drive from outside or opened a suspicious email in work
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>>60349032
I wonder if the people who wrote this feel guilty now
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>>60349036
lol people will die, so funny right, upboated Xd
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will i be safe???
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>>60345661
>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382
It's global

>>60346586
kek they're under attack too

the global cyber war is finally upon us
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>>60349074
Hey, you have to laugh at these things
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>>60347033
yep, its an exploit that was patched a while ago
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>>60349104
>saved thumbnail

I'm a retard
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>>60349127
>that filename
This can't be real. What's wrong with cucks?
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>>60349127
If only the cuckold part was true.
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>>60349164

the cuck part is fake retard
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Is that possible? Simply visiting a website gives the possibility to someone to run a program like decrypt0r on the computer used to visit the website? Without the user accepting to download and install the program? It happened before? What S.O. where affected?

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/wanna-decryptor-ransomware
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>>60346385
It is. Because the software that runs there is probably written in spaghetti and doesn't support anything outside particular build version.
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>>60349298
Adverts that run third party JS or Flash programs can do some nasty shit, including throwing a piece of ransomware into the startup folder.
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>>60349298
Infected pdf what i heard, did sone dcom fuckery
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>>60349127
Current state of normalfags.
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>>60349350
If this is true then anyone running windows should be fine as long as they avoid PDFs, right?

Or is there some other way it can then spread?
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>muh coordinated attack
It's more likely that the affected computers are all part of the same nefarious data-sharing network.
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>>60349385
Yeah avoid attachments like always and your fine.

Force shit into gdrive or something to view/edit until it cools down, work has to get done, but fuck don't run shit locally today.
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>>60345661
The tories - bring down the NHS once and for all
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>>60345876

Hey I have a good idea lad. Pay the 300 bucks for one computer, one that has administrator privileges, then get all the info, transfer it to an non encrypted drive , then format all the other hdd

Yeh?
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I think this may be a long term repercussion of the scrapped Fujitsu NHS systems overhaul from a few years ago. Basically, the whole thing was so pants on head retarded and broken that the NHS fired Fujitsu and had to undo their shit, go back to old systems and start again. Private Eye covered the story at some point.
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>>60345690
>>>/jp/sie
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How are they gonna pay the ransom with all that free health Care they have?
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CONSERVATIVES ARE FUCKED

THEY CAN'T EVEN MANAGE THE NHS PROPERLY

LABOUR WILL WIN IN A LANDSLIDE

SOCIALISM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>60349504
>implying this isn't common in burgerland
the presidents doctor uses windows xp
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>>60349474
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28464002
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>>60345661

>An NSA Cyber Weapon Might Be Behind A Massive Global Ransomware Outbreak

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/05/12/nsa-exploit-used-by-wannacry-ransomware-in-global-explosion/#53d7aa8de599

Fuck murifats! Why you guys are so dumbasses? This is your fault, muricas.
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>Conservatives and Microsoft get bad press
How is this ever a bad thing in of itself?
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>>60349549
The exploit was also patched in March by Microsoft. Here's a perfect argument for automatic updates if they ever needed one.

Of course that's not gonna help you when you're running Windows XP.
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>>60349532
>common in burgerland


Yeah, but when we go to the hospital or doctor we pay money, money that can pay the ransom

Where does the magical free ransom monies come from in free health care land, and how long is the ransom money going to spend on a waiting list?
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>>60349506
Its just more ammo to move to a more sensible health care system desu, which includes private options
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>>60349588

I'm not talking about the security breach either in Windows, MacOS or Linux. I'm talking about the tool created by the NSA.
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>>60345711
it's just the monthly SMB RCE vuln
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>>60349549
Didn't Germany just go back to Windows after not being able to run Linux? You'll pay up and ask for more fuckboy.
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>>60345661
> Who would do this
Ransomware.
> how
March Windows SMB exploit. I'm patching all of my systems now.
> what possible motive could there be
Patch your OS or disable SMB v1.
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>>60349588
>Here's a perfect argument for automatic updates if they ever needed one.
i have not updated my system for going on 3 years. i run malwarebytes premium and the paid spybot.

i figured my system runs perfectly now so why update?
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>>60349644
>patching only after shit happens
why are IT guys so retarded
I take better care of my personal computer
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>>60349644
or install gentoo unironically
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>>60349606
>we pay money
>we pay a deductible and hope that the insurance company will cover the remaining cost without fucking around for months trying to find a way out of covering the medical costs

ftfy
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It amazes me why they haven't switched to Macs. They wouldn't have this problem if they did.
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>hack multi-billion pound government organisation
>ransomware all their shit
>ask for $300 dollars
>three hundred dollars

Someone please explain what in the fuck?
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>>60349717
or if they updated their machines and used MalwareBytes instead of the piece of shit Mcafee or Norton i see on every machine
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My friend got that shit today. He is reinstalling windows right now.
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>>60349717

Funnily, true.
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>>60349707
How many American hospitals are running XP based systems?

How many times have Americans gone to the hospital only to see a "hospital closed due to HAX0RZ" sign?

Really activates the almonds, doesn't it?
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>>60349750
Not specifically targeted nhs.
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>>60346119
I thought 4chan was hell?
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>>60349782
pwn2own says other way
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>>60349758
Hopefully he has his important stuff backed up, if not he learned a lesson at least
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>>60349794

Thank god. I was having a hard time understanding why someone would specifically target the NHS, be smart enough to do it and then ask for $300. I wonder how they got the ransomware in the first place. Apparently Telefonica got it too, very interesting. It would be nice if Microsoft themselves got it.
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>>60349623

Germany's problem. I have nothing to do with that.

And by the way, the system has not been migrated from Linux to Windows. This is just the wish of a head of government who is a fanboy of Microsoft.
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>>60349750
>hurr viruses only target specific computers
Is /g/ only full of newfags? People already forgot about mass infections?
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>>60349707
nah, Americans just have to worry about their entire government being in the pocket of the Russians and Chinese due to repeated massive security breaches, see OPM hack and USAF unsecured backup drive leak. The information in those situations would be enough for a foreign actor to effectively blackmail, extort, or bring specific threats against anyone who matters in the US gov. To be honest, hacking hospital computers is small potatoes in comparison.
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>>60349958
meant for>>60349792
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>>60349909

Large organisation hacks are usually deliberately targeted you stupid fuck.
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>>60349987
No my little newfag, corporate computers get fucked by common viruses all the time just like any other, this is only news because it's so widespread and has a spooky ransom message.
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>>60349758
Can you beat him over the head for being stupid enough to leave SMB 1.0 sharing on default ports and not using a firewall?
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>doctor
>not able to revert to pen & paper for patient history

Pls
Doctors aren't stupid like you IT pajeets
Nobody is gonna die kids
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>>60349608
>sensible
>private

You really are gullible over there huh. In Finland private is just as good as private because the same doctors work in both systems and our public is not free but super low cost and free for the poorest people.
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>>60346039
If people die because that cunt is running outdated software he should be locked up alongside the hacker.
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>>60349127
kek
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>>60345690
>Not posting Maki
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>>60350013

>newfag

I've been here longer than you have.
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>>60350717
I have been here since 1990. The site just didn't loaded.
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>>60350096
>Doctors aren't stupid
Tech illiterates aren't stupid on their field, but their tech guy should be fired.
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anyone got a link? i want to try it on an old pc
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>>60346247
>anime is very much entrenched with satanic bs
this
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>>60346068
> Doctors are mostly old (40+)
False.
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>>60351044
>docs are mostly 40+
>false, here's a pic that shows docs are mostly 40+
what did he meme by this
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>>60351044

That table proves his point you retarded fuck.
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>>60351044
this has to be bait

nobody is this stupid
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>>60350844
Seconding this anon.
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>>60351044

>doesn't know how to add 22.3 + 13.7 + 6.0

even if you exclude the 40-44 year olds you're still fucking wrong you retard.
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>>60351194
That only adds up to 42%, it's impossible to tell whether or not most doctors are 40+ from that table
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>>60351276

8% isn't a small amount anon.
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>>60351093
>>60351122
>>60351142
>>60351194
Americans? No one's reasoning is this bad.

The groups below 35-44 are larger than those above, and the trend is clearly skewed toward the lower ages within the 35-44 group itself, compounded with five years below 40, compared to four above.

There are clearly more doctors below 40.
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>>60351319
>40+
>Above 40
No anon, you are the Amerifat.
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>ITT: people believing a random table with no source, no information on where this informtion was taken from or anything
>ITT: people then proceed to say that doctors must be 40+ because chart.

good fucking lord

all this means in the end is that the person who used the chart as ''proof'' is a sporg with a paper-thin defense.
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>>60351359
http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/search_stats.asp
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>>60350717
>>60350013
caring about "member since:" status on a fucking anonymous fijian fly fishing board
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>>60349430
Stop spreading false info you tech illterate
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>300 dollars worth
>bitcoin fluctuates like crazy

the whole thing put the price of bitcoin down , buy cheap i say
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