Why do you pirate

Because I don't give a fuck, corporations can go fuck themselves.

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>>60332654

Why?

What have bug corporations done to you?

because it's free and convenient and because a lot of the content i enjoy is not available in my country

Because I can.

>>60332620
>posts a picture of Stallman
>asks a question using a corporate weasel-word he's been at pains to discourage

>>60332620
because intellectual property has no philosophical basis

>software/media made in West
>live in poorfagistan in East
>5 times lower pay if not more than in West with a similar job
>prices are the same in both places
Fuck that.

>>60332620
I only pirate media, because I like to be entertained and don't support DRM.

>>60332620
If I can buy the music in DRM-free format from an ethical site, I buy it. Bandcamp is a godsent place. My country also has a site where you can buy music of local artists in mp3 and fucking FLAC for a cost about 40 US cents.

If it's only available from iTunes, google play music, amazon and streaming services then I rev up those torrents.

Because I'm free.

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>>60332708

He is a fat autist who eats foot fungi and had sexual relations with a parrot

His wishes are irrelevant

>>60332765

Free as in beer or free as in speech?

>>60332769
He is the greatest philosopher we've got these days.

Man, I haven't played software side I was in high school. Between free alternatives and a lack of interest/need for expensive software, there just hasn't been a reason to open myself to the kind of malware commonly hidden in cracks. As for media, I just can't justify posting fucking too much a month just to watch a handful of shows on less than ten channels. If cable companies unfucked themselves and let me take JUST the channels I want for $1 per channel per month or less, then maybe I'd change my mind.

>>60332620
More money to spend on things I can't get for free

because it's free

>>60332798
He's an autistic manchild screeching about not getting things his way.

>>60332902
This is basically just evidence you never read anything he wrote.

I just do whatever's easier for the specific instance. Software can usually be bought online no problem, so I haven't pirated any software which I could purchase that way in recent years. Movies, on the other hand, are somewhat more difficult to obtain here, with services like Netflix still not having full reach where I live. I could go out of my way and buy some kind of DVD from overseas, perhaps, but is it worth the time wasted? Eh, probably not. Generally: I'll buy your shit if you sell it to me, but if you don't, fuck you.

>>60332620
easier than buying it

dont like downloading DRM to use software

>>60332620
I don't. I think I've done it twice in 10 years.
>what about chinese cartoons or tv shows?
I stream -_-

>>60332902
Isn't that the basis of all philosophy?

I live in a 3rd world country.

>>60332620
Anyone else doesn't really pirate software anymore (just media)? Other than the malware risk, I've felt like I've found a freeware or open source alternative to any paid software that I would need.

>>60332654

This.

In case of video games I pirate them first to see if I can run it on my system and if the game is any good. I usually buy the good ones if not absurdly expensive.

>>60333230
The only software I'd consider paying for is MalwareBytes(3 licenses for wife and son) and PerfectDisk. PD's defrag is best I've seen along with good partition tools that only a live session of gparted can come close to.

>>60332654
is this guy "moot"

>>60333255
There once was a report that actually said as much that pirating increased sales of media.

>>60333301
>>60332620

>>60332620
cause it shouldn't be a crime, are you telling me that all spotify and youtube content is not piracy? why should i care then, it'll be boring cause people wouldn't upload if they seize every media platform

>>60333314
That's Richardu Stallmanu, big fat faggot freetard founder of GANOO+Loonix.

>>60332798
No. He might have done some good stuff, but his philosophy is flawed as fuck.

>>60332620
Because I got no fuckin' money or time to spend going to the cinema or buy movies.

I don't even watch the latest movies as a lot of my collection is old or kinda modern, streaming services can be crap unless they offer DTS or AC3 encoding so my hand-me-down sound system can pick up the signal.

>>60332620
I used to pirate games on pc when I was a console gamer, now that I switched to pc I buy them for like nothing thanks to key resellers, and I like t collect them on steam.

I only pirate anime because if i'd have to buy them now I'd live under a bridge. (One piece bluray, 4 eps, 50euro. No thanks)

>>60333349
He has nothing to do with linux
You can run linux without gnu userland or even the gcc compiler

>>60332620
>Why do you pirate software and media?
Because I find the scheme of intellectual property (and artificial scarcity in general) profoundly immoral, and will not support it, financially or otherwise.

>>60333310

Well, for me for games it did. Music not so much. Video practically none.

>>60332620
Who doesn't want free shit?

I have other things to spend my shillings on.

1.) I can immediately start streaming it on my android smartphone.

2.) It's free.

3.) If the internet disconnects I can still watch what I already downloaded.

4.) It's free

5.) Fuck you.

6.) Did I mention that it's free?

>>60332654
This. Also I don't have money.

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Because I can.

>>60332620
Because I live in Russia and cannot afford to buy all the software and media production I need.

Because, unless you live in California, it is literally a patriotic thing to do. Think about it not as "stealing" but as "not wasting my real money". You can buy resources, tools, hardware, labor, better food, - anything, the real stuff, something that actually exists. Media does not exist. You are all just giving your money for nothing and it will never trickle down back to you.

>>60332901
/thread

I basically stopped. I find half the shit I pirate I never use since there is no incentive to use it.

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Very interesting

My follow-up: why are there so many posters who do it for the financial savings, or do it because they cannot afford to purchase software/media the normal way?

How do they have a computer and an internet connection? Why are they here?

I would like to know more about this

>>60332722
And also private property in general.

because it's not free, if it was free I wouldn't pirate it

>>60334382

Hello communist,

Why do you feel this way

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>>60332620
If I can easily obtain them it doesn't make sense to pay for them, even if they are priced at 1 cent.
>b-but you are stealing!
developers are not losing anything, they are just not gaining anything from me.

>>60334386

Free as in beer or speech?

i pirate tv shows because i'm not watching fucking commercials

>>60332620
>software
No. Non libre software is a form of digital slavery, i refuse to use it.
>media
Let's think about it this way:
Thievery is borrowing something without owner's permission.
But if someone BOUGHT something and then AGREED to share it with me via e.g. bittorrent, why should I refuse?
Also i strongly dislike mainstream digital marketplaces. I prefer supporting favorite artists directly using donate button of bandcamp or whatever.

>>60332685
This. Several times I have gone to vendors with money and it couldn't even be special-ordered.

>>60334381
It's not like they do it out of spite, maybe they have better uses for that money. I don't live in US and prefer to spend my money locally, supporting small/medium-sized businesses. There is no ethical or economical reason for me to feed some random oversea media giant.

>>60334381
>I would like to know more about this.

I too would like to discuss any plans anyone might have for illegal acts. Out of curiosity. Fellow hip kids, where does one purchase narcotics in your hood?

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>>60334394
Meh. It will took too long to explain.
Basically, because if we'll try to absolutize idea of private property, we'll obtain gazillions of nonsense conditions such as need for processing infinite amount of transactions, infinite computing power of human brain etc.
There's no way world where everything is privatized can be a thing.
But if we'll instead try to absolutize idea of public ownership, we'll just get normal world in their natural state, where air, land, water, just everything belongs to everyone.
It was a thing for a millions of years, and it's just the way things should be. I think so.

>>60334679
>It was a thing for a millions of years,
So were dinosaurs. They are dead now.

>>60334881
Yes. So would be our civilization, unless we become the sustainable, balanced, joyful and healthy society.

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>>60335006
Maybe we were never meant to last :(

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>>60332620
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

>>60332620
Why do you masturbate? There's your answer. Now go fuck yourself, kike.

>>60332620
because it's free.

>>60332620
I don't know about pirated software, but pirated movies are
>cheaper
Obviously, they're free, but you also don't have to deal with getting Jewed somehow. For example, late fees for physical movie rentals or having to "own" a file you downloaded from Apple with DRM which you don't really own.
>quicker to acquire
- no driving to Redbox or Best Buy, or even waiting 24 hours for next day shipping from Amazon, and
>better
- no sitting through previews or FBI warnings, you can do whatever you like with the file, a scratched disk doesn't make the movie unwatchable.

I remember when Blockbuster was still around, my dad would rent a movie and return it late sometimes only to get hit with late fees nearly exceeding the cost of buying the movie. And when he didn't pay late fees on time, they would contract out debt collection agencies to come and get their $7-12 late return fees. It was a seriously corrupt racket and people of my generation will never forget that.

>>60332620
I only pirate tv-series/movies. there is really no other way! Yes there's things like netflix and amazon instant video but in my country the episodes are released years after US release and the number of shows / movies you can choose from are way to small. if there was a similar offer like spotify just for movies/tv-series I'd never pirate again. just look at amazon instant video, most of the videos you have to buy anyway, even if you have amazon prime. that's just a poor joke. I was using netflix once but in 2 months I watched all tv-series worth watching or I have seen it before. then I got KODI and streamed all the content since it was not illegal in EU but recent legal changes made it illegal, so what the fuck should I do? if I can get assfucked for streaming I can go ahead and download anyway. the publishers of tv-shows brought this on themselves by not allowing watching legally the latest releases in a central place.
it is defenetly possible to do so, as you can see how it's done with music

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I don't 'pirate', I download stuff from the internet. In the 00-s I have even been paying for it.

>>60332686
>>60332686
>>60332686
>>60332686
>>60332686

Most companies want to fuck us over, they aren't good guys. I also don't have a lot of money to spend.
I will buy a game, or app every once in a while but can't afford to spend hundreds.

This >>60332654 >>60332686 >>60332898 >>60332901 >>60333069 >>60333765 >>60333817 >>60333873

>tried netflix
>dont have half the shit i want to watch
>susbtitle placement is so bad on multiple shows that its laughable

I can get everything I want with pirating and it's all centralized and the subtitles are way superior

the only good thing about netflix is the part where they save the last timestamp you watch something so you can continue watching them on another device but that is botnet material

>>60332620
I dont because i dont own a boat.

i'm poor. anyone who claims anything else as the primary reason is lying and doesn't want to admit to being poor.

>>60337220
>but can't afford to spend hundreds.
Perhaps if you spent less time consuming useless media and more time trying to improve your life that would be different.

because i can
because no one can stop me
because it makes up for things i've lost

I have very little money

>>60332792
Free as in Linux

>>60332620
Because I disagree entirely with the concept of intellectual property.

This is why i love /g/ more than /v/ . On /v/ all the whiteknights and big company shills were on to me like beavers in a log pile for illegal downloading.

>>60341339
But how do you justify downloading software for free that the creators want you to pay for?

Free shit, nigga

I only pirate stuff that I can't buy for one reason or another. That would be content that hasn't been released here or rare content that's either impossible to find or extremely expensive.

>>60341415
I only use fully Free (Libre) software, so I don't need to justify anything.

>>60332620
I'm a self-entitled white American.

>>60332769
Is that the Arch Linux guy?

I don't have money because im a NEET.

>>60341685
The question was why do you pirate software and media. Pirate meaning illegally download. If you use free software, then why reply to OP?And why mention your disagreement with IP if you don't pirate anyway?you aren't pirating anything in that case

>>60341883
>and media
>media
Learn to read, I was replying to the media portion of the question.

>>60341935
which you didn't specify in the slightest, and software is still bound by intellectual property, therefore you're broad statement can apply to both. Learn how to talk to people. Waifus dont count

>>60332620
because its free and im not getting in trouble for it.

>>60341964
You are correct. I apologize for the errors of my ways.

Also "waifus" and relations are bloat that you do not need in your life.

I bought Screenflow for 120 bucks in 2011.
Wanted to install it on Mac OS Sierra.
Did not let me, said this version was incompatible.
Downloaded the newest version of Screenflow.
Isntallied it, did not let me enter the license key.


This is why I pirate software.

>>60341997
Since you are a reasonable anon in a sea of retards, no harm done. And agreed

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If people sold high quality DRM free files I would buy them. They don't so I don't. The few exceptions are Band Camp, GOG, and MST3K Episodes off of the RiffTrax website. I am also not looking to buy a license I am looking to buy a product.

This isn't to say money has never been a factor but when I have money I tend to buy what I have downloaded if I can. To be honest if it wasn't for piracy I wouldn't be half the man I am today. The art I have been exposed to has changed me into a more well rounded and charismatic person.

Unrelated but something I still think is important. Due to all of the media I have been exposed to and showed friends I have seen them buy products they never would have even known about. Giving people an option to pay after the fact is probably the best way for companies to make money in this modern era of the interwebs.

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So i can post in /g/ about my opinions like it really is my blog.

I'm so glad i've got a safe space to share with my epic pirate bros, fuck capitalism.

>>60342205
was with you until you started mentioning blogs and safe spaces. Fuck off you pathetic little wannabe skiddie reddit scrub, don't disgrace this board with your fucking impotent Beta shite again

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>>60342222
Kek has blessed you anon, trump is at this very moment sending tomahawk missiles to your targets location.

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>>60342205
> talking about and sharing personal experiences on the topic of file sharing on a technology forum is blog posting
> file sharing isn't an important issue to talk about given how it's the reason companies pass draconic laws ruining our tech
> you shouldn't kill yourself
> summerposting in spring
3/10 got me to respond, enjoy your (you)

>>60342253
So he's bombing his own country then? Can't say im surprised

>>60342356
Well the joke is that he could and then also be in no legal trouble for doing so.

>>60342375
you say its a joke, its beyond disturbing that he has that power, and more importantly, that people want him to have it

>>60332877
> played software side

mysides.webm

Because they're all fucking greedy as fuck. All of them. They spend peanuts and expect my fucking first born in return.
I bought a fire emblem edition 3dsxl but the jews couldn't be bothered to at least pack a fire emblem cart with it. I only pay if I feel like it, and honestly,why pay when you can get it for free ? At this point I pirate because I can , to spite these fucking jews.
I live in a relatively non-globalised country and imported things are double the price here, and honestly I'd pay if they were the right price.

>>60332620
Because most of the times it's easier to Torrent what you want, even for free program or music that you already payed for (Daft Punk in my case, 2 click on TPB, à fuckin hell for the official method).

It's not for the price in my case.

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Think about it this way, their intellectual "property" is just a collection of thoughts and ideas from the collective cultures of the world all slapped together. You are never the first one to think of something. So why should the company who compiled ideas from the culture be allowed to claim that this is now their original idea and everyone else has to pay for it. Fuck that.

>>60342457
Pretty much this

>>60342457
This.
Just torrented 7TB worth of video games which apparently cost "billions" to make.

>>60332620
Pirate? Do you mean downloading illegal distributions of software and/or media? There is no piracy involved - I don't rape anyone in the process of my illegal downloading, I don't kill anyone, and I certainly don't take anything physical.

Because why would I pay for something when I can get it for free with almost 0 chance of any consequence? Also it's often more convenient to obtain a movie or series that way than actually pay for it. I do have a Netflix account.

i dont pirate, i support free software instead

>>60342881

This

>>60332620
Because I can't remember the last time paying for a movie/game was actually worth the asking price. If they are just copying each others ideas, why can't I copy their products?

>>60342984
two words
battlefield one

>>60343365
You mean battlefield 3 with a WW1 reskin, yes I am familiar with it.

Because I'm poor. If I had the means I'd buy the things I felt deserved my support (which is not a lot)

>>60333255
>try before you buy
>low low price of one rootkit
retard

>>60332620
Dinosaurs died because they didn't do so.

>>60343465
i could list every game ever and you wouldnt pasy for it regardless.

>>60332620
It's just a copy, you salty hoe.

Because pirating content is faster and gives you better results.
You get the files straight away and at better quality than you would with most streaming websites.

>>60332620
Because it's free

>>60332620
I pirate because fuck the police, everything is become more inconvient to buy and it's easier to pirate. I don't care if you pirate, it doesn't hurt anyone.

>>60344068
It's just so much easier.

>check netflix/hbo/hulu first, if it's not there

>option 1
>drive to store
>hope they have movie
>pay money
>sit through commercials and ads before movie starts

>option 2
>order movie online
>wait a few days for it to come in the mail
>sit through commercials and ads before movie starts

>option 3
>download movie
>wait 10-20 minutes
>watch movie

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>>60332620
Because I don't have any money.

>>60344212
This pretty much proves the ancient adage that states "if the point you're trying to make is made exclusively with a cartoon, you should probably just kill yourself".

>>60344212
That picture it great. If it's possible to duplicate every item on Earth, including golden bars, food, computers - we're in for a great future and businessmans can go fuck themselves with a duplicated dragon dildo.

>>60344315
You can't duplicate latinum though, so the oligarchs will still hold control through that.

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>>60332620
Much easier to pirate an entire season and have the files in the best quality available in 5 minutes, than to go make 50 accounts for 50 different companies, take 100 steps to add my bank card, make sure I dont sign up for any montly recurring fees, and remember all my shit for all those accounts.

Illegal is just more convenient than legal when it comes to software.

>>60344315
If cloning ever became that prevalent, I'd imagine they'd just charge you for cloning it.

>>60343861
I have paid for quite a lot of games actually. Last one I bought was superhot. But by all means, go ahead and assume whatever fits your silly narrative.

>>60332620
Trust me, if I could pirate hardware I would do it, instead to pay overprice for sand derivatives.

>>60344569
>>durr I love someone already
>well fuck, time to get a different gf then
Dumb cunt.

>>60344852
And they could do that exactly once. And when I have paid for my clone I'll let anyone clone my clone.

>>60333340
megaupload was taken down because its content, why not youtube?

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>>60345059
Excuse me anon?

>>60345102
>not charging others to clone your clone

Come on, anon, it's like free money

>>60345226
Sharing is caring mate.

>>60345246
And having others share money with you is caring

The last time I pirated something I was 19 yo, 9 years ago. Reading this thread I think I should start pirating again.

>>60345267
Sharing is giving without demanding/expecting anything back. You're describing selling.

>>60332620
Because copyright laws are the tumor of modern humanity.

Seriously, think about it. If you were to suddenly pull back the state enforcement of those laws and allow people to freely copy something as long as it doesn't directly harm anyone, absolutely nothing would change in modern society. Except that all those companies who profit on things that shouldn't be otherwise profitable (i.e selling an easily-copiable software and then crying to the big daddy to send its army of law enforcement in the case someone refuses to pay and force him to pay) would simply cease to exist. Those companies aren't needed for society to function and are leeching capital away from vital and needed services like the rest of the technology sector.

For every dollar of revenue that a movie makes by hiding behind a copyright law, some car manufacturer or chip producer elsewhere makes one less. It's the exact definition of cancer - a useless growth that leeches resources away from vital organs and isn't supposed to exist.

>>60332620

I couldn't afford the software as a kid but really wanted to learn it. I learned Premiere and Photoshop this way.

When I graduated college though I made sure to adobe Adobe CS6 Master Collection for $649. Software still works great some four years later because, as expected, Adobe CC nixed innovation and convinced people to pay monthly for software.

Feels good.

>>60345408
/thread

>>60345446
why do you want CS6 at McDonalds?

Because I can

>>60332728
Basically this

>>60334679
It's our instinct to like owning things.
Feeling ownership towards something helps us defend it.
In primitive times we defended our woman, our children, our houses, our land, from transgressors because we were stimulated by the feeling owning it.
The same thing happens with animals a wolf thinks he owns his territory, an alpha male feels like he owns the pack.
It's hard to live selflessly because of that instinct.

>>60332728
Yeah. A windows license costs a months salary over here.
Computer vendors and even the government pirate it.

>>60332620 Because it's easier, cheaper and have almost no risks if done right.

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>>60332620
Because it's the right thing to do.

>>60334381
Beautiful geese you got there.

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>>60332620
nice pic OP

>>60332708
>piracy is a corporate weasel word

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>>60332620
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.

Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.

There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically seperate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.

>>60348222
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy

>>60332620
>software
I don't defile my personal devices with overpriced proprietary malware.
>media
Convenience is king. I don't pretend to have an ironclad moral justification for torrenting movies (though I disagree with the current copyright term), but Netflix is the only streaming provider that manages to both use a semi-responsible DRM scheme (for all the hate EME gets, at least it puts that shit in a box), and not torture the user through the process of finding and starting the movie. So when something isn't on Netflix, I have to watch it on an optical disc or torrent it. The former is only happening for films that I already know I like.

>>60332620
People pirate because they want to be able to keep their money and retire some day instead of not saving and working till they die like their parents.

>>60332620
Because crunchy roll is shit and I've configured mpv out the ass for my east Asian cartoons

Businesses are not trying to make good product anymore. Its all about giving you bullshit at retarded prices. They want to hold back humanity by continuing this stupid make-believe, self-perpetuated IRL monopoly game. Fuck em. I'm not participating. Give me my shit, and fuck off. I'm never paying anyone pedaling me garbage so they can buy a yacht. They fundamentally don't deserve any benefits of financial compensation.

>>60338505
Even if you have a job games and other content can get pretty expensive.
I barely even consume media anyways.

>>60332620
I don't pirate software
I pirate media because it's released earlier in the us than in germany
Also I like to watch TV shows in english

>>60332674
Me personally? Not much. To my fellow labourers? A lot of shit

Because I'm not going to pay for cable/satellite for the 3 shows I watch.

Because I'm not going to pay $20 to watch a movie with popcorn and a drink

Because I'm not going to pay for photoshop when I use it maybe an hour a month

The things that I use regularly and that are worth it I do pay for.

>>60332620
convenience, money, habit. it's a product i want, made better.

>>60344144
Can you not fast forward through ads? I'm on your side, I pirate, too, but I wouldn't list a fast forwardable inconvenience as a reason as to why I do it.

>>60350372
You can't

>>60346502
>Pirate Bay

People still use this Honeypot?

>>60350496
What's the alternative? Ive been looking for one. Chiefly for music.

i pirate
i adblock
i flashblock
i customize GUI to take up one bar
i remove websites "top bars" (i thought toolbars are cancer, when did they become the norm of every website these days? youtube, google, fb, practically everything has a top bar. god damn smartphones ruining internet screenspace design. I thought we invented widescreen and high resolutions to use the screenspace, not waste it on blank fucking pixels and emoticons) i cant stand meme culture cancering up all my tech, the media produced for it, and the communities surrouinding it.

Fuck you all, I take what I want, sans your garbage.

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>>60333212
USA? I feel sorry for you.

>>60332620
Software should be free (as in price and freedom)

>>60332620
Hoarding and no money.

>>60332620
Because I'm broke nigga

>>60350960
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its fucking sparks, why pay when there is no effort involved after the computers are connected its literal copy paste.

money is retarded anyway. archaic way of thinking holding back society.

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>>60332620
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>>60334420
I agree, fuck commercials - they're nothing less than psychological warfare to force you to buy things you don't need and destroy overs quality of life.

>>60342661
is electricity not physical? do you not take it from unauthorized distributors?

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>>60332620
because I don't want to spend my hard earned money on a collection of on's and off's

Because I can't play Netflix or Amazon streams in mpv. If they want my money, they need to let me use my own media player and not some shitty DRM'd web player.
And I don't have a 4K display, but I can pirate 4K rips, which are better quality than the 1080p streams they would serve me anyway.
Don't expect me to pay for inferior versions of something I can get for free.

>>60334381
goose there is sitting why

>>60341710
top fucking kek