/cyb/ general: cyberpunk and cybersecurity

>>60324000
Wake me up when we have mind/machine interface

Seems informative.

>>60324000
https://pastebin.com/UY7RxEqp

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>>60324000
Please get me out of this antiquated flesh and into a titanium shell.

>>60324432
nice resource. I know someone who's currently writing about non-edgy hacking an security topics, I'll provide a link when they're online

>>60324466
This is also a good resource linked in OPs cybersecurity resources paste.
https://pastebin.com/raw/5a0y9hsp

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Human:
>What is the purpose of life?

Machine:
>To serve the greater good.

Human:
>What is the purpose of living?

Machine:
>To live forever.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.05869

>>60324450
Placing our brain into a synthetic shell only introduces a plethora of new cybersecurity concerns. As it stands only your environment can be hacked. In the future *you* can be hacked too.

Sec question, why is there still no good p2p encrypted distributed group messaging app?

>>60325164
tox

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>>60325164
Why aren't we all using Wire?

>open source
>beautiful UI/UX
>audited crypto
>windows client
>macos client
>linux client
>android client
>ios client
>web client
>end-to-end encrypted text chat
>end-to-end encrypted group chat
>end-to-end encrypted audio calls
>end-to-end encrypted video calls
>forced encryption: no opt-in or opt-out
>email registration available
>no telephone number required

https://github.com/wireapp
https://wire.com/en/

There is seriously no other messaging client that does all of this.

>>60325238
because IRC is more 1337

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>>60324000
How do we destroy mass surveillance before it gets even more accurate at identifying individuals?

Is there even hope?

>>60325238
Wasn't there some sort of PR disaster? That's bound to have put some people off.

>>60325238
because that "linux client" is just the webapp wrapped in electron
I want my software to have *native* client(s) for my platform

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>>60325269
I remember there was a Blowfish addon for an IRC client ages ago. Is there anything like this still in use? I'm curious if anyone actually does forced end-to-end encryption on IRC anymore.

>>60325309
Yeah, but isn't that nitpicking at this point? I mean, what alternatives do we really have? I'd elect to have end-to-end encryption over fuss about electron.

>>60325238
So what do they gain from this? Wire seems to be a for-profit company, and the software is only open source for auditing, not to be built on.

>>60325464
Executive Chairman Janus Friis told Bloomberg that the company will "never create an advertising-based business model", but "might charge for certain premium services in the future".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_Swiss#Business_model

Cyberpunk comics
http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2017/05/11/0885-cyperpunk-2017-please-dont-sue-us-cd-project/
...kind of.

>>60324012
We have had that for years. I guess you were asleep when it was announced.

>>60325067
Protip: your meatprocessor has already been programmed since birth. Or did you think those thoughts, moral structure and ethics belonged to you?

?

>>60325743
but that's a lot less direct then your synthetic shell being hacked to display McDonalds(tm) advertisements

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>>60325743
>Protip: your meatprocessor has already been programmed since birth. Or did you think those thoughts, moral structure and ethics belonged to you?

Most of it, yes.

Well I guess one could argue instincts are "programmed" by evolution.

Daily reminder that necromancy is possible through dead cyborgs.

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>>60325743
There is always social engineering as well.

>>60325976
what about necrophilia

>>60325269
>>60325238
Don't get me wrong, I live messengers and irc. Just as of late it feel like the safest way to pass information has been physically with say a flash drive or by mouth even depending on what it is.
Its just if half the shit the gop is saying about their abilities to track and breach, is there really a secure way to send content over the net anymore?

>>60326905
I can reasonably safely say that stuff like PGP isn't broken, so that's always an option (make sure to be weary of metadata though)
Physically sharing with a flashdrive doesn't really help unless you can be 100% sure your devices haven't been compromised, see: airgapping

>>60326936
okay cool, good to know about PGP.

I already know about airgapping. I guess what I mean is by not sending it online there is much less of an issue. Cause if its to the point you are worried about physical transfers, I'd say you've already been caught.

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>>60326905
>>60326936
>>60326993
A lot of this was addressed in the OP links:

>encrypt your emails.
>PGP is pretty much all we have, but it is all we need.
>https://www.enigmail.net/

and

>encrypt your instant messages.
>for better or worse XMPP+OTR is still our best bet.
>https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/

How little has changed in the last ten years. We really need a second cypherpunk revolution.

If someone would just make a cross-platform electron app that used the Matrix protocol for e2e encrypted 1:1 chats and group chats we'd be in a whole new era of cryptography. How hard could this be?

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for what it's worth

https://github.com/siacs/Conversations

>>60327584
>https://github.com/siacs/Conversations
If only it had a desktop client and supported group chat.

>>60327738
https://github.com/siacs/Conversations#what-clients-do-i-use-on-other-platforms
Desktop client is just other XMPP clients

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>>60324000
>nothing to hide? please.
>https://youtu.be/pcSlowAhvUk
This was always a bullshit excuse. It's either social signalling that one is the "good guy" or absolving oneself of responsibility for not protesting the surveillance state.

>>60328283
Either way they're an asshole.

>>60325313
>I remember there was a Blowfish addon for an IRC client ages ago. Is there anything like this still in use? I'm curious if anyone actually does forced end-to-end encryption on IRC anymore.
Anyone?

>>60327066
Making it may not be too hard, its just getting stable support that would probably be the difficult part

>>60324000
How's my plan for digital anonymity?

>Wear a different mask every time I go out
>Wear dazzle camo makeup under mask in case it needs to be removed
>Purchase phone service under a pseudonym
>Connect phone to a nonlogging VPN and then to TOR
>Run Replicant with no gapps/proprietary software apart from necessary driver blobs (I figure I'm safer with the number of eyes on the AOSP/LOS/Replicant code than some obscure feature phone OS)
>Physically disable cameras, microphone, and Bluetooth
>Communicate through encrypted text message/email
>Pay with cash or buttcoin when possible
>Ride motorcycle with "accidentally" obscured plates (fewer cops will care compared to a car with obscured plates)
What did I miss? Is there a way to get a credit or debit card that isn't attached to an SSN? Is there a way to avoid facial recognition that's more compatible with physical anonymity?

>>60328780
Encirc?

>>60328283
holy shit that youtube url
>pcSlowAhvUk
>pc slow ah fuk

>>60324000
just call it /sec/ for cybersecurity

>>60331613
You can still find the thread with 'cybersecurity' in the title. Why must it also have /sec/?

any good books for linux beginners? Command line shell scripting etc?
Also any good math books?

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>>60331729
cybersecurity is a meme word
infosec is better

>>60331729
Because it's a general.

Also this >>60331768

These past weeks have been very depressing. First, security vulns in Intel ME (and there are more, for sure), then the unsandboxed JavaScript interpreter running as SYSTEM in Windows, and now another vuln in the shitty Linux network stack, along with grsecurity telling upstream to fuck off (and rightly so, admittedly).

What is left now that grsecurity won't be accesible to the general public? OpenBSD?

>>60331737
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html

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>>60331768
>>60331821
Noted. I will use a different title in future posts. I primarily wanted to to remove dead links, out of date advice, and bad resources from the old pastes. I hope the new ones are more helpful and organized.

I would also appreciate feedback and criticism of the "cybersecurity essentials" in particular: https://pastebin.com/raw/0AjC2mcD

Thanks.

>>60332088
>he doesn't use OpenBSD

>>60332521
>He doesn't use FreeBSD

>>60332538
touche

>>60332538
https://vez.mrsk.me/freebsd-defaults.txt

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Hey guys, what's stopping NSA from conducting a mass social engineering campaign against anti-forensics?

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I just realized the OP has so much fucking information within the /sec/ resources link
https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md

>>60332595
Nothing. I don't think enough people care for it to a priority though

>>60325277
Because mass social engineering is a problem, and that same problem is enforced to prevent any cyberpolitics to effectively take place on cyberspace

>>60332571
I never said it was perfect out of the box. Fortunately there's a simple guide on hardening it.

>>60332807
FreeBSD isn't really secure. It's not only bad defaults, they don't take security seriously.

https://www.viva64.com/en/b/0377/
https://www.viva64.com/en/b/0496/

>>60331613
>just call it /sec/ for cybersecurity
In which case /cyb/ will appear once again. In theory /cyb/ and /sec/ should be a good match yet when you look at the actual discussions here there is little connect between these topics.

Personally I have an interest in electronic warfare (EW) and tried to fire up a discussion about that a few rounds ago but that went essentially nowhere. There is some conflict and some synergy between EW and /sec/ and would be /cyb/ since it relies more on finesse than brute force but it seems perhaps too left field here.

>>60333175
I would be quite interested in that, maybe you could make a thread on lainchan.jp/cyb/ about it? People might be more interested there, I sure am.

>>60332866
Post a comparable audit for OpenBSD or Debian, please.

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>>60333175
>Personally I have an interest in electronic warfare (EW) and tried to fire up a discussion about that a few rounds ago but that went essentially nowhere.
>>60333258
>I would be quite interested in that, maybe you could make a thread on lainchan.jp/cyb/ about it?
I second this. Just because it isn't appropriate here doesn't mean it wouldn't be successful elsewhere. I can't speak for everyone, but I would be interested.

Fucking awesome OP,

>>60325238
We have XMPP + OTR, that's why.

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>decide to check out the TSUKI project
>it's some /cyb/erpunk meme cult about lain
sounds neat

>uses discord
what the fuck?

>>60334825
Yeah, when it was at about 700 it had the nice small website, genuinely weird vibe going on. Now they've made it blatantly obvious that it's an ARG, what with all the changing of the usercap, and suggesting moving the date around and shit.

They also changed the wording around to make it not a suicide cult anymore. They "clarified" that the July 1st date was simply a registration date, not a migration deadline as was originally heavily implied.

I'm pretty disappointed honestly, now all that's left in the inevitable ARG regression is for the guy to break character once it hits enough users to sustain itself.

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>>60335252
>Yeah, when it was at about 700 it had the nice small website, genuinely weird vibe going on. Now they've made it blatantly obvious that it's an ARG, what with all the changing of the usercap, and suggesting moving the date around and shit.
How could have that possibly have been avoided? You're basically asking them to freeze time.

>They also changed the wording around to make it not a suicide cult anymore. They "clarified" that the July 1st date was simply a registration date, not a migration deadline as was originally heavily implied.
Isn't that the responsible thing to do? Websites like that can really fuck with people with pre-existing mental illness like schizophrenia. I'm sure someone with severe psychosis already killed themselves.

>I'm pretty disappointed honestly, now all that's left in the inevitable ARG regression is for the guy to break character once it hits enough users to sustain itself.
We pretty much knew that they wanted to evolve towards an actual long-term community when they affiliated with lainchan.jp. You don't take the time to affiliate with another website a month before you kill yourself.

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>>60335356
>How could have that possibly have been avoided?
Not him but picking a date that isn't so close would do it.

>I'm sure someone with severe psychosis already killed themselves.
One of the clauses is you don't get to see Lain if you die before the set date.

The site is having an identity crisis, the people there thinking they had an inner circle suicide club are upset that it's expanding. And it doesn't seem to be very cyberpunk outside of the aesthetics.

The Discord is a pretty big deal, and any cyberpunk community that uses Discord officially is well, not cyberpunk. It's a proprietary chat program for video games.

>>60335424
This is 60335356 here and I must say those are all pretty valid points.

>>60335424
I'm also curious if you personally were one of those types of members to which you are referring?

are there any decent cyberpunk movies beside matrix and bladerunner?

>>60335569
I don't think the site is bad for what it's doing, it tried to do something really neat it's just having trouble making that transition from ironic cyberpunk suicide club to lainchan-esque community. The purpose of the site is being lost in the process, it's not a suicide cult and it's not a hardcore cyberpunk community. So who is it for?

The userbase doesn't know, they're all worried about "normies" ruining their secret club and begging for the registrations to close. But they aren't meant to close.

>>60335589
Nah, I only watched it's growth as something kinda neat and silly. I've got no desire to kill myself, and if I did it wouldn't be with a bunch of channers on a lain worship site.

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Is it more /cyb/ to be fat or /thinspo/?

>>60335787
Slight chub.

>>60335787
If I can see the bones in your cheek or your chest you are not /cyb/

>>60335787
If you aren't a skeleton surviving only on soylent, stims, and soykaf you aren't /cyb/

>>60336136
nope, you described a disgusting slum dweller at most

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>>60335356
>How could have that possibly have been avoided? You're basically asking them to freeze time.
Cap it when you said you would, nuke it when you said you would. Not everything needs to grow and flourish, some things can be transient. Have a bunch of fun up until July 1st, end with a huge party, then replace the homepage with a huge

"THE WORLD HAS CLOSED"

text and leave it. It could have been beautiful, now it's just like everything else.

>>60325817
>when you download vaporwave420trakmix.docx and it hacks you ironically but the creators went long on Ronaldcoin so the pirate advertising causes the 3rd Ethereum hardfork that day because of moral ambiguity around whether burger branding should be legally recognized by our benevolent DASI overlords and among them the rogue sentient avatar of Wendy's enters a prediction market with a bet that the maintainers of vintage computing platform Macrohard 1984 will still be alive in a week thereby incentivizing a band of autistic Ukranian misfits to engineer a virus that specifically targets the developers whose genomes were leaked in the great UNIT (United Nations Identification Tripcode) database hack of 202X but the Macrohard developers are all NEETs living on basic income from the Swiss Empire and have biowarfare threat level VI rated drone airlocks for receiving tendies so the attack fails and it turns out Wendy tipped off the developers to collect the assassination prediction money from the Ukranian biohackers and then posts smug memes which become self-aware and counter-hack the vaporwave producers but that's their fetish so they start making pornographic VR music environment tributes to smug pr0nographic self-aware Wendy memes and several months later pornhub releases their yearly statistics report detailing their confusion over why Wendy's has suddenly become their most popular catagory and why most of their new premium users are unable to answer captchas.

>>60336432
Is this fresh pasta? On /g/?

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>>60336432
>tfw you live in a universe exactly like this but the names are different
>tfw this is reality

>>60336559
Yep.

I've got another 7000 words of similar stuff thanks to NaNoWriMo where I failed hard but not spectacularly to reach the 50K goal.

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>>60336596
It's only a matter of time...

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>>60335787
>>60335971
>>60336039
>>60336136
>>60336221

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>>60336432
That's the greatest shit I've read all day

>>60333175
merging /cyb/ and /sec/ had its ups and downs. the ups are are more active thread, more people talking and contributing to conversation. but the downs are /cyb/ does drown out /sec/ and most people that come from /cyb/ to /sec/ are new. what i mean by this is many people from /cyb/ do not know how to use ssh or irc. these are just two examples but think about if they do not know how to use either of those and can not take the time to look up how to use them then they should not be learning how to into /sec/. anyone in /sec/ will tell you that it is critical to understand that system you are going to exploit and your tools before you can do anything

>>60338271
>many people from /cyb/ do not know how to use ssh or irc
>if they do not know how to use either of those and can not take the time to look up how to use them then they should not be learning how to into /sec/
yet when people offer to teach you find idiots supporting the elitist trolls

>>60337689
You're welcome.

Your compliment has been logged and automatically added to my user reputation at your expense.

>>60338333
it is not about people being willing to teach the new. it is about the new not having the initiative to learn themselves. something as simple as how to use an irc client or ssh into something have a surperfluous amount guides.

>>60338519
I suspected somebody would say that, discarding hacker culture tradition of sharing information and teaching the new batch

Lets cut the crap, I know some trolls are behind this shitty attempt at forbidding free flow of information, you can tell those fuckers to stick a pole to their asses

And you my friend, you are manipulated, I don't fucking care if they won your "trust" on IRC private messages or what gives, but if you are helping assholes guess what that makes you

>>60338580
this has nothing to do with culture or the free flow of information. if someone does not have the common sense to look up something they do not know before asking for help then they have no place trying to learn security. security in general requires an immese amount of self study. how am i being manipulated if i do not go to irc.

>>60338671
if you have nothing to share and nothing to learn, do you say you belong here?

>>60338771
how do you know if i have nothing to share or learn and you should ask youself that question

>>60338824
is a straightforward question, which you didn't answer

so, if you have nothing to share and nothing to learn, do you say you belong here?

>>60338843
i do belong. and why do you not answer anyone of my questions?

>>60338869
I do share, and sometimes I do learn, which answers my own question

but you get interested in my question all of a sudden, weird, because you expect everybody here learn stuff outside of this thread

I seriously hope you won't stop anybody to share and learn here though

>>60338901
i never said i expect people to exclusively learn outside this thread. how can i stop anyone from learning over the internet

>>60338271
>the downs are /cyb/ does drown out /sec/
Interesting. I feel the opposite, that /cyb/ is being drowned out.

>and most people that come from /cyb/ to /sec/ are new
This too surprises me. I come from the /cyb/ angle but have worked professionally on /sec/ a long time ago, strictly white hat. I had expected more to have a similar background.

If it turns into an elitist circlejerk, this thread is good as dead. Just saying.

>EW
>>60333258
>>60333462
OK, I'll give it a try, and make a primer pasta to go with it.

>>60325313
>>60328780

Yes. It's still in use.

>>60326936
You can read on Bunnielabs how insecure flashdrives are. Avoid.

A plain CD-ROM or DVD is safer.

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What is the best file encryption out there guys

>>60342439
Depends, do you want it symmetric or asymmetric?

>>60336432
>vaporwave420trakmix
wait, vaporwave is /cyb/?

>>60342775
The initial meaning behind it is pretty /cyb/

Hey guys I got a PRETTY nasty computer virus/malware.
I asked before on how to deal with it but NOTHING worked. What happens is randomly something on the screen like a captcha or a link or someone post will automatically copy and paste when I go to click on something.

I used 2 different mouses, two different OS (Winblows 7 and 10), I used MalwareBytes to scan my computer, I used Kaspersky to scan my computer, I disabled clipboard with firefox and I used two different keyboards.

I'm completely out matched by this fucking thing, should I just nuke my HDD and start over?

Would it be possible for my videos and pictures to be infected? I have some pictures of family members who passed away I'd rather not have lost.

I also asked StupidQuestions thread but they had no idea on what to do.

>>60343256
Did you try another browser? Upload a picture on some upload site like pomf.cat, not on 4chan, and I'll take a look at it to see if it's infected.

>>60342775
I don't know whether it's /cyb/ or not but vapers are usually retardedly cancerous people.

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>>60343328
It did it with the original firefox, now I'm using waterfox and it's still doing it. I don't see it happening on google chrome but then again I don't want to use google chrome to browse 4chan because I don't clean the cookies/cache on it. This all started when I downloaded a torrent for photoshop.

https://a.pomf.cat/piyvvx.jpg
And I thank you for any help.

>>60343441
The picture seems to be ok. As I thought the issue is with the browser. If I had physical access to the computer I might be able to fix it, but imo your best option is to save all the important stuff and wipe.

>>60343551
Is there a browser besides firefox ones you would recommend? Something with security and functionality?

>>60343256
First off if you have the install media required for the windows OS ypu want then this should be kinda painless.
My best suggestion is a total wipe. On a different computer (is available) download Ubuntu(you could use another gnu/linux based os, but I say Ubuntu because its easier to find what we will need.) and install it to a live disk or flashdrive. Turn off you main PC and boot into Ubuntu.
Now at this point if you want you can back up IMPORTANT files. If you can stand to lose memes, games and porn then do it. Only save what you feel is worth backing up incase the virus has infected random files, and try any not bulk move entire directories to back up for the same reason. Its painful, bust save as litrke as you can and move the files in small groupings making sure you knowbwhat you grab.
After you do that, there are tones of how to videos and articles on how to do this, just look up "remove a virus with Ubuntu" the newer the video the better obviously, but it might take a little searching.
Follow one of these and then reboot.
If all is fixed and you don't get the issue anymore, then great! Otherwise, boot back into Ubuntu and whipe the harddrives of your computer using GParted. Then re-install your desired OS.

Hope this helps anon.

>>60343441
>https://a.pomf.cat/piyvvx.jpg
Checking https://pomf.cat/transparency.php
Boom!

>>60331737
what do you want to know about math?

>>60343256
Have you checked your router? It can easily intercept things. Are the captchas on https or just http?

You might also want to try Spybot S&D rootkit scanner.

>>60338671
But what if they learn something here? Is a good thing if we help each other.

>>60343918
Learning something from here is a different thing than willing to learn everything from here.

>>60343676
>if this is not updated for more than 2 weeks, please assume something has happened.
2016-03-01
IT'S OVER

>>60344014
Not sure we are talking about the same thing. Let just leave it there.

>>60343612
Thank you. I was wondering if I just backed up everything and then wiped everything and installed Ubuntu would the virus still effect Ubuntu?

I also don't have access to another computer would making a USB with an Ubuntu installer still get compromised.

>>60343918
its less about learning here and more about wanting to learn by yourself

>>60331768
cybersecurity is a different word, go back to your encryption and data classification

>>60344244
I don't think some anons understand how it works. Because yes, you have to be willing to learn by yourself, but another guy in this thread was bragging too much about learning somewhere else, not even sharing was allowed for what he said.

I say the first thing we should teach new guys is that having an attitude to life of curiosity and determination is an important part. Covering that, is not bad making a guides on stuff like ssh or IRC, I made one myself.

Maybe we can put a notice in the OP for whoever wants to be part of either hacker culture or cyberpunk to understand about self determination. I have a few links about that:
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/forum/problem-solving-is-essential-hacker-skill-0150882/

By the way, here is my IRC guide https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/forum/problem-solving-is-essential-hacker-skill-0150882/

>>60344490
If we are about to add links to the OP, Aaron Swartz's Guerilla Open Access Manifesto should be at the top.

>>60344490
>By the way, here is my IRC guide https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/forum/problem-solving-is-essential-hacker-skill-0150882/
sorry, copy and paste failed me, here is the right link https://pastebin.com/WFkuY5pk

>>60344168
If the virus messed with Ubuntu after a wipe and install you have bigger problems lol. But I doubt that would happen.
You can install it from the infected computer but there may be complications. Some viruses disabled some system abilities, so you may not be able to make the live disk/drive.

>President Trump on Thursday signed a long-delayed executive order on cybersecurity that "makes clear that agency heads will be held accountable for protecting their networks, and calls on government and industry to reduce the threat from automated attacks on the internet," reports The Washington Post.
>The executive order also does not address offensive cyber operations, which are generally classified.
>https://slashdot.org/story/17/05/12/007237/trump-signs-executive-order-on-cybersecurity
Important stuff happening guys.

>>60332595
the same things stopping facebook from doing experiments.. .and we know how that went

>>60344490
>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
I already said some threads ago that this link was pretty pointless. The other link is better.

>Covering that, is not bad making a guides on stuff like ssh or IRC, I made one myself.
That doesn't mean you didn't do wrong. I don't think you understand that spoonfeeding is what makes people not prosper. Learn for yourself or gtfo (helping != spoonfeeding), we already give enough resources for everything. I really doubt that we want to breed pajeets instead of exploit-producing machines.

Also why doesn't OP use the /sec/ pastebin which contains far more resources? https://pastebin.com/UY7RxEqp

>https://pastebin.com/raw/0AjC2mcD
This one is fine though, so keep it.

>>60344851
Can you elaborate? I don't really follow news about facebook, but this sounds interesting.

>>60336662
Good shit op. Pastebin moar?

>>60345033
>I already said some threads ago that this link was pretty pointless. The other link is better.
I disagree, Raymond put some valuable effort on proper attitude.

>I don't think you understand that spoonfeeding is what makes people not prosper.
Lets avoid being vague and call everything spoonfeeding and we'll be fine.

>Also why doesn't OP use the /sec/ pastebin which contains far more resources? https://pastebin.com/UY7RxEqp
I agree, is quite the master pastebin there.

>>60344490
no one was bragging about learning from anywhere else and no one said anything about not sharing. you do realize that by spoon feeding someone a guide on how to do something is killing any insentive to be curious or want to learn on their own. i agree fostering those things are critical but in the end it relies on the person.

>>60345154
>I disagree, Raymond put some valuable effort on proper attitude.
Wrong definition of hacker, not the definition that /sec/ uses..

>Lets avoid being vague and call everything spoonfeeding and we'll be fine.
Shit, how is https://pastebin.com/WFkuY5pk not spoonfeeding, please tell me. And specially on something so essential and basic like IRC, you should've just done something like IRC tips, where you state that accounts, vHosts, znc and SSL exist, and elaborate on what everything is and maybe vaguely how to set up SSL for client and znc.

There you're just filling the spoon with information and pushing it so hard in the reader's mouth that their IQ is decreased by 20 units.

>>60345165
Sometimes calling spoonfeeding to something actually kills the discussion, and curious minds thrive on good explanations.

Not defending lazies here, those are evident. But talking about the new guys, when new find something cool and understandable they no longer fear is unreachable.

Of course I am interested in making hard things more simple too, too much information we are diving and is sometimes we need to save time to each other.

>>60345332
spoonfeeding surfices as an explantion. as for new people we only stand to hurt them by spoonfeeding

>>60345309
>Wrong definition of hacker, not the definition that /sec/ uses..
I see, but that doesn't make it less true. Maybe a warning about this issue is on point.

>you should've just done something like IRC tips, where you state that accounts, vHosts, znc and SSL exist, and elaborate on what everything is and maybe vaguely how to set up SSL for client and znc.
There is wikipedia for that, and even then it doesn't work well as a guide. Maybe you are thinking too much in terms of your own circle anon, not everybody spent time. Your allegations of IQ decreasing is just plain bias.

>>60345405
Again with the spoonfeeding. For you maybe is, but for someone else is a proper explanation.

>>60345409
>even then it doesn't work well as a guide
The wikipedians very much do NOT want Wikipedia to be a useful guide. That is one of the best ways of having your articles instantly wiped out.

Pastebin is miles better,.

>>60345409
you agrument agaist his suggestion only makes your guide look worse

I for one need more guides.

>>60345409
>taking the IQ decreasing thing literally
I had some sort of hope that you weren't autistically retarded, but you are, not gonna argue anymore with you, sorry.

>>60345405
>>60345465
Stop attempting to bring sense into this guy.

>>60345475
Shhh your sarcasm is going to make that guy make a guide on how to 4chan.

>>60345462
wikipedia is lost ground tbqh

>>60345489
k

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>>60345489
It wasn't sarcasm.

Lets just be friends. This OP has good stuff, other people are collaborating more pastebin.

We are doing good, lets just ignore harsh feelings and opinions we disagree, is not the end of the world.

Anybody notice how /cyb/ is becoming more popular? Not sure if is because /sec/ joined the party but having two different point of view seems like a sign of this.

>>60338271
That is why I specifically wrote the new 'cybersecurity essentials' text with novices in mind. We shouldn't only care about our own privacy and security. It's not a zero sum game. When more people use encryption, for example, it benefits us all.

>>60345875
Best comment in this thread m8.

>>60345875
Actually your comment is well thought. You are obviously thinking in nash equilibrium, and is very exiting to know you point to cybersecurity. Well done.

How do you protect yourself from IMSI-catchers like the Stingray? There's android apps to detect fake cell towers, but is there a way to encrypt your phone to protect yourself?

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It's an established fact that the botnet wants us to starve, and with even pizza being non-free it's hard for a cyberpunk to sustain his/herself in the meatspace. You can't survive on stims alone, and traditional food is just a waste of time.

So how do cyberpunks get their calories?

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>>60347199

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>>60347935
How long until they stop fucking around and release a Green variant?

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>love the /cyb/ aesthetic
>agree wholly with /cyb/ ideals
>want to be /cyb/
>but love my surface pro 4 and iphone 7 too much
who /poser/ here?

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Anyone willing to rec me some /cyb/ animes?
I got GitS:SAC and Lain on my backlog.

>>60348170
>I got GitS:SAC and Lain on my backlog.
Watch them then, dummy.

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>>60347996
the real question is, do you want to know what the other flavors are made of!
I think we better start learning to acquire a taste for insects, and assorted shrubs, plants and rodents.

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>>60347199
Diet Coke

>>60348200
Coffiest is tasty, but it's the only alt-flavour I've tried. I only drink Original and Coffiest, since Original is the only one that comes in a Powder and the Powder is like half the price of the bottled Soylent.

>>60348170
Cyber City Oedo 808 was pretty good.
I'm still looking for Megazone 23 English dub, myself.

>>60348200
remind me of that movie of a train which never stopped, passengers at the last wagon eat shit and cockroaches

>>60348031
most people here. it's ok, though.

>>60348344
I- I do what I can. I use Wire, and Protonmail, NordVPN, etc.

It's all for nothing because iOS and Windows 10, but I try.

Do you guys think we'll really reach cybernetic "immortality" in our lifetimes?

By that I more mean not being limited by age instead of literally being immortal

>>60343679
algebra etc

>ITT elitists

>>60348468
the simple answer, not likely, and certainly not the average citizen. immortality, if it ever becomes possible, will be reserved for the rich and powerful. everything is tied to money, power, and political influence. everything.

>>60348970
t. loser

Reading Stand on Zanzibar atm

Interesting stuff

>>60348970
not all though

>>60348468
Is technically feasible, but as >>60348974 said too many factors are screwing our odds. Number 1 barrier I would say is patent trolls.

What is cyberpunk sexuality like?

>>60349673
ERP over IRC.

>>60349673
http://www.billyshakespeare.com/pdf/The%20Guide.pdf

:^)

>>60345490
I am increasingly using pastebin.com for snippets of information. However it is not really geared for knowledge management hey way Google Knol was intended to.
https://knol.google.com/
https://knol.google.com/faq.html

Wikipedia as a Web 2.0 case was b0rken from day one since it is centralised. A federated and distributed model would be far more in line with the Web 2.0 thinking and /cyb/ for that matter.

If I had the time I'd like to build something like that. Wrestling power away from the mad bats of Wikipedia would feel good. So go ahead and work this idea if you wish.

>>60349419
Patent law needs a revision definitely. 10 year max lifespan

>>60348272
>that movie of a train which never stopped
Snowpiercer?

Speaking of Korean movies, how about this as "Resurrection of the Little Match Girl" as the Korean take on The Matrix?

>>60349930
Wouldn't be cool to have wikis with versioning like git so you can choose which individual made the best?

>>60349963
Is weird how small entrepreneur don't rush to protest against such a messy patent system. They all lose money like water through a hose.

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>>60349673

>>60350195
Now we are talking!

Also need markup specifically for retrieval. That is a problem I have. I have GB with text, data, images and more but retrieving and annotations are a nightmare.

Versioning is a must, yes. Perhaps something along the lines of project Xanadu, which has both transclusion and versioning. Too bad that is just a collection of concepts rather than working code.

>>60351195
Glad you like the idea. Can't say anything about code, but I've designed an interface as an old project. If you are serious about this maybe I can drop specs.

>>60349081
t. nigger
see, I too can play at that game.

This ransomware shit has made /g/ aids
Every retard is now a security expert who has no idea what they are talking about

>>60352656
Niggers cannot be elitist because they're losers by default.

>>60352700
Made me browse the "ransomware attack general" for 5 mins, you owe me a new pair of cybereyes when they come out.

>>60352700
>>60352956
just breath and repeat with me, "let it go, let it go"

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friendly reminder: the globe currently under a cyber attack. it is a ransom ware attack built on leaked code built by the CIA. the malware is spreading, and does not require a user to interact with a computer.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382
https://intel.malwaretech.com/WannaCrypt.html

we now return you to your regularly scheduled chaos, already in progress.

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>>60353190

>>60352956
t. Nigger

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/sec/ news

Another Vault 7 release

https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#AfterMidnight

AfterMidnight
12 May, 2017
Today, May 12th 2017, WikiLeaks publishes "AfterMidnight" and "Assassin", two CIA malware frameworks for the Microsoft Windows platform.

"AfterMidnight" allows operators to dynamically load and execute malware payloads on a target machine. The main controller disguises as a self-persisting Windows Service DLL and provides secure execution of "Gremlins" via a HTTPS based Listening Post (LP) system called "Octopus". Once installed on a target machine AM will call back to a configured LP on a configurable schedule, checking to see if there is a new plan for it to execute. If there is, it downloads and stores all needed components before loading all new gremlins in memory. "Gremlins" are small AM payloads that are meant to run hidden on the target and either subvert the functionality of targeted software, survey the target (including data exfiltration) or provide internal services for other gremlins. The special payload "AlphaGremlin" even has a custom script language which allows operators to schedule custom tasks to be executed on the target machine.

"Assassin" is a similar kind of malware; it is an automated implant that provides a simple collection platform on remote computers running the Microsoft Windows operating system. Once the tool is installed on the target, the implant is run within a Windows service process. "Assassin" (just like "AfterMidnight") will then periodically beacon to its configured listening post(s) to request tasking and deliver results. Communication occurs over one or more transport protocols as configured before or during deployment. The "Assassin" C2 (Command and Control) and LP (Listening Post) subsystems are referred to collectively as" The Gibson" and allow operators to perform specific tasks on an infected target..

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>>60354629

>>60325313
OTR?

can someone please post comfy hacker hubs
I deleted my 4chan folder before moving said pics to a different one

>>60356499
How would you use OTR on IRC?

>>60349673
Asexuality.

>>60359201
It's the only way to fly.