''It's the AMD year!''

we need to start measuring you kikes for the ovens you're gonna be thrown in.

Ryzen 3 will be good.

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>>60323126
>terrible momboards

Not expensive enough for you shillboy?

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>>60323138

Intel shills are getting more and more desperate.

>>60323126
The antimonopoly law will save amd

>>60323138
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_companies_with_research_and_development_centres_in_Israel

Amd are in Israel, Nvidia not

>>60323223
>hard too oc
>not all ram speed support

Is Ryzen 5 1400 best choice for 4c/8t atm?

>>60323259
what do you mean? no board supports over 3200mhz natively without fucking around with the blck

>>60323275
Nah, 1500x. But what's the purpose when 1600 exists?

>>60323286
But 1400 is cheaper than 1500x?

>>60323323
It has much less cache so performs noticeably worse

>>60323323
With half the cache and Zen L3 is victim so...

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>>60323126
JUST WAIT™ BROS

>>60323285
Gigabyte K7 on f3 bios. Running 3200 ram.

Fuck you

>>60323126
>>ryzen
>>only good on multicore aps, suck on gayming, terrible momboards

Have you checked out the benches with the recent bios updates? No? There's hardly a difference. Plus, anything that's not geimur they tend to do quite well at, so it's the more logical choice for most people.

>>polaris
>>late, not efficient, on pair with 390/290x
>>rx500
>>rebranded bios overclocked rx400

Yeah, they did really shit everywhere on these. The only reason to buy a 500 is to have more stable power delivery imo.

>>vega
>>we still waiting®™
>>lose markets
>>lose money

A pity, if they just managed to push both Ryzen and Vega together, I'm sure they'd have managed to do quite well. I'm sure they'd have gained market share in the CPU side, as any and every office that requires multi-threaded loads should go with Ryzen. Though on the GPU side, ah well. Can't have the best of both worlds.

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>>60323126
JUST WAIT

>>60323226
lmao

fukin saved

>>60323126
>lose markets
Didn't they gain gpu market share though
>lose money
Not really

>>60323126
>suck on gaymin
when is this meme going to fucking end

+2/-2 FPS difference (almost margin of error) with far better minimums than StutterLake™ is not "ricen suck for gaymin hahahaha"

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>>60323733
>anything that's not geimur they tend to do quite well at

Really makes you think

>>60323126
>only good on multicore aps, suck on gayming, terrible momboards
Except that's wrong you fucking retard.

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>>60323765
Ryzen 7 is really awful for gaming, a horrible value

Ryzen 5 fares better, but only matches Intel at best

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>>60323771
Really actives them almonds.

>>60323765
Why do you argue with these people? They have a folder full of cherrypicked images and planned shitposts. Literally all you're doing is bumping the thread and giving them the attention they want. Sage, hide, take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.

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>>60323800
Oh wow an encoding or rendering benchmark? What a surprise, Ryzen wins that?

Meanwhile at everything else.

>>60323837
You must have some kind of reading comprehension problems.

also, i5-7500 > i7-6800k
Really makes you squint and think.

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>>60323126

>mfw I shrunk my 5TB porn collection to 2TB thanks to h.265 encoding on my Ryzen 8 core/16 thread beast

>>60323862
>not storing your entire collection on a notepad as a mathematical expression of the raw binary.

>novidya and kikes shilling this hard
oy vey shut it down!

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>>60323771
[no source]

>>60323854
You must have some kind of reading comprehension problems.

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>>60323806
Yes, just hide the truth, don't let the goyim know.

>ryzen
>marketed as a GAYMER cpu
>really is only good for rendering
name one single game that uses more than 4 cores, i'll wait

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>>60323806
i still see people and OP's in /pcbg/ still shitting on what is essentially a non-issue

>>60323927
Niggerfield 1.

>>60323910
I don't recommend reading the source, it will make delusional AMDtards cry:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Photoshop-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-907/

>>60323939
does it really?

>>60323942
>Really, the true test for Ryzen is how it compares to the Intel Core i7 7700K since that is currently the best CPU available for Photoshop. Unfortunately, Ryzen simply can't keep up with the i7 7700K which is both cheaper and significantly faster. In general tasks and photomerge the i7 7700K is around 23% faster than Ryzen on average. Interestingly, the 1800X does pretty well when creating HDR photos, although it was still around 13% slower than the i7 7700K for that task.

>Overall, if you are looking for a Photoshop workstation we would advise you to skip Ryzen and stick with the Intel Core i7 7700K. Not only is it more affordable and on a more established platform, but it should also be significantly faster for pretty much any task you might perform in Photoshop.

>>60323927
there isn't even any game which fails to run on a dual core. all these people meme'ing about ryzen being absolutely compulsory because games all use fucking 16 threads are just straight up paid shills.

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>>60323806
>STOP PROVING SHILLS WRONG

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>>60323962
>STOP PROVING SHILLS WRONG

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>>60323971
>>60323962

Will both of you just grow up and buy which brand suits your needs?

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>>60323971

>>60323800
>10 sec clip
>any longer and the 7700k would have overheated due to OC

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>>60323862

my nigga

>mfw I compressed a tv-show episode from 3,5GB to 500MB and there's not really a noticable difference if you watch on a TV a couple of feet away).

My TV-show went from 350GB to 70GB wit HandBrake Very Fast 1080p30fps preset but with h.265 instead of h.264

Gaming is literally the only workload ryzen loses in.
And that's cause games have been developed around low core count cpus, not because the 7700k is actually better. Thankfully most people buying high end don't do it so they can get a higher framerate running games at 720p.
>>60323259
>hard to oc
>put in base clock
>put in mutiplier
>put in vcore
>????
Are you literally retarded? I swear /g/ is less tech literate than the videogame boards they claim to hate.

>>60323978
I already did, I bought a 7700k.

It's not really hard to figure out what to buy.

Do you do rendering and encoding all day long? Buy a Ryzen.

Do you do literally anything else? Buy Intel.

>>60323980
>>60323971
>>60323962
who makes these images lel

>>60323942
>>60323951
>t. Literally who

Photoshop is well known single threaded workload; 6900k and 6950x will do poorly compared to a higher clocked i3. Have fun with your Dwarf-Fortress-and-Photoshop-station I guess, just make sure you close all other software every time.

>>60323947
Ashes of the benchmark does do

So will Prey.
But its not like you care so go back to you're safe space and just think about IPC like a good shill.

t. intel 4core corelet

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>>60323837
>tom's hardware

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>>60323980

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>>60323987
>Gaming is literally the only workload ryzen loses in.

Really makes you think

>>60323994
translation please

>>60323988
everything else runs better on Ryzen. Only thing that Intel has upper hand on is couple of games but even than advantage is rendered obsolete when you set your game to be GPU bound, like a normal person.

>>60323862
>>60323984
Dumb question does ryzen even have a h265 hardware encoder? I guess it doesn't matter with a cpu that beefy. I'd be okay with doing this but idk what the fuck to playback on.

>using fucking Photoshop or excel as a benchmark of CPU performance
Jej.

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>>60323988
>I bought a 7700k.
I'm sorry for your loss.
>>60323991
The artist known as GIMP.

>>60324002
>no 6900k
make you think really hard.

>>60324002
Hahaha. Jesus christ. Why on earth did someone test this?

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>>60324006
>everything else runs better on Ryzen. Only thing that Intel has upper hand on is couple of games

Wow you're really making me think a lot here

>>60324011
Because Gimp is fucking stupid.

Literally the same shitposting. Every fucking day.

>>60324031
>Margin of error
>All of them

Shills are shillig so hard, they don't stop to think what they actually see in the graphs they are posting.

>>60324031
>>60324002
Reminder this is what /g/ uses their souped up computers for.

>>60324031
Wow. Web based java script. Not like only retards run that often. Or all of it.

>>60323126
>polaris
>not efficient

Its time to stop posting.

>>60324051
>Wow. Web based java script. Not like only retards run that often. Or all of it.
how did you post if you aren't using javascript?

fucking useless jannies and mods need to clean this fucking garbage board, i get cancer every fucking time i come here

>>60323126
> not efficient
8-pin vs 8-pin + 6-pin. Besides, 1/6 FPS increase in comparison with R9 290X. It's not groundbreaking, but good.

Everyday the same shillposting. Just THE SAME.

I bought a goddamn r7 1700 because I needed those cores for cheap prices. Probably the best thing I've ever done. Retarded intel shillfag can't understand that PC users don't solely compromise of gaymers. And about those gayming tests you've been talking about, why didn't I see any performance decrease? 150fps vs 145 fps, whoa what a difference on my 60hz monitor. Retarded shill.

>>60324064
This board needs IDs. And flags.

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>>60324043
Yes goy, it's definitely just a margin of error, buy Ryzen, all the benchmarks are fake!

>>60324004
>Ashes of the benchmark
>translation of meme name pls

Ashes of singularity
Prey
City skylines
Doom
Fall Out 4 with that high texture res pack
witcher 3
gta 5
civ 5 and 6 ( in some high AI calculation situations)
Daw of war 3

that's not alot of games its not like intel users care , right?
Pls just go back to your safe space pls there is nothing to see here.
You don't need those cars and i think most of them are limited to six cores as of this post.

>>60324072
Holy fuck you are delusional, there's like 1 gayming test in the whole thread.

GOOKMOOT JUST MAKE A SEPARATE FUCKING BOARD FOR HARDWARE WARS.

Id unironically be better off with Ryzen but I'm gonna buy a 7700k just so i have a reason to watercool. Hate me /g/?

>>60324073
or just a fucking janny that did his job instead of just wanking every fucking day in his chink shit thread

>>60324093
Hello retard shill, I am ACTIVELY using the CPU myself. Fuck your benchmarks. Stupid faggot.

>>60324103
Why the fuck chink shit thread or whatecer is even a thing? Its pure rampant consumerism.

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>>60324104
>Fuck your benchmarks. Stupid faggot.

Yes just stick your head in the sand and ignore reality.

>>60324112
Literally nothing wrong with consumerism.

>>60324009

I'm not an expert but the current Ryzen processors (summit ridge) does not have an iGPU (integrated GPU) and this there is no h.265 hardware encoding.There will probably be in the coming Ryzen APUs (raven ridge i thik)

AMD RX 400 and 500 series have hardware encoding but it doesn't really matter because my old AMD FX 6200 with an Nvidia 650 (none of these have h.265 hardware encoding) can play videos just fine, I think. The CPU usage does go up a little bit but there is no suttering or performance degretation on my limted tests.Another anon in here said his older Core i3 processor can play h.265 just fine aswell. If your CPU and GPU does indeed suck dick, you can always grab a cheap AMD/Nvidia card that has h.265 hardware encoding. Look up the specs to make sure they do have it,

>>60324116
What part of "I am already actively using it" don't you understand? I am using it, in the real world, with real world scenarios and doing a real work myself while playing gaymes. Do you understand it?

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>>60324060
>or all of it
Selectivity choosing what code you execute on your hardware is a right you have.
>run that often
Stobbit! That's how you get aids. Not executing JS in every site untill you know what the fuck it does is akin to wearing a condom.

>>60324112
it's better than the fucking speccy and screenshot shit threads at least

>>60324117
Murrica pls.

>>60324124
Wow you were dumb enough to buy Ryzen? Congratulations!

Most benchmarks compare ryzen at 4ghz to kaby lake at 4ghz
But kaby lake can hit 5ghz easy while 4ghz is the max for amy ruzen part. That isn't to say Ryzen isn't better in most workloads. It's just something i find odd that most people ignore.

>>60324078
>9590 better CPU than 6900k
It's confirmed, Intel is shit.

>>60324131
okay how much do you earn with this shilling? I want to join, it's a fucking anonymous board in the end.

>>60324131
>Wow you were dumb enough to buy literally best CPU on the market? Congratulation!

>>60324149
Delusional AMDtards think everyone is a shill. I seriously wonder what the rate of mental illness is in hardcore AMD fans, it must be near 100%.

>>60324129
Nothing's worse than this shitfest. Like holy fuck everyone posting wojaks need a permaban.

>>60324146
>tfw my 5 year old 8350 is running at 9590 settings. So i basically have a better chip than the latest intel $1k cpu right?

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>>60324156
>literally best CPU on the market

Really makes you think

>>60324159
These benchmarks prove that you do.

>>60324166
And Tom's own comment section tore them a fucking new one for the blatant shilling in that article.

>>60324146
Protip: 6900k is a niche CPU for the exact same reason Ryzen is.

>>60324166
Comment were fun on that page, Intel shills were BTFO by their own community.

>>60324143
7700k has overheating issues and Intel is telling everyone not to overclock it.

And most benchmarks don't compare overclocked CPUs.

>>60324174
Oh god not the comment section, I'm sure they must be really intelligent people

>>60324181
Ryzen what? Ryzen 7? Sure, it is, it was meant to be.

Ryzen 5 is CPU for every day consumer.

>>60324079
funny. i own all of these games except for civ 5 (uninstalled it when 6 came out) and dawn of war 3 and they run perfectly fine on my 3 year old i5.

>>60324191
Ryzen 5 is better for sure, but it's still not good enough to compete with Intel.

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>>60324157

>>60324157
>I'm using the CPU myself and I can see how it perf--
>NO THE BENCHMARKS, LOOK AT THEM YOU SEE WRONG RESULT, LOOOK AT THE BENCHMARKS ILL AMDFAG

>>60324207
Lmao

This is exactly what I'm talking about

AMDtards are seriously out of their minds

Just to avoid that toxic community is enough reason to not buy AMD

>>60324203
If you are buying anything other than Ryzen 5 for your new CPU you are doing something wrong.

>>60324157
Meanwhile in India.
Young Pajeet wakes up for another day of self deprecation and slavery to his Chinese and Jewish overlords.
Instead of making an honest living from selling cow shit an piss for human consumption he breaks many rules of his religion to lie and cheat people to purchasing sub-par products.
Not only is he recommending these products, he's using the competitors hardware to be able to do it.
Such is life for a bhenchod.

these threads deserve perma ban. shillwars are beyond control.

>>60324231
>I can't comprehend people having different use-cases
You're as bad as Intelshills.

>>60324186
That's just a liability thing though. Can always delid or get an AIO. You should always overclock. That's why 7700k is popular not 7700. It's free performance. Also unfair since amds parts are basically just max oced out the box, intel parts are not

>>60324225
i know. i actually was considering getting a ryzen 1600 because i know a guy in retail who can knock off a chunk of cost on it for me and it sounded like a pretty attractive offering but when i asked here about pairing it with my gtx 1070 i got a fuckton of hate for pairing ryzen with an nvidia gpu and one retard even told me to downgrade to a 480. the amd community is toxic as fuck.

>>60324263
You really need a specific use case.
If you are using it for AutoCad, then sure i3 is your friend, but most use cases for normal user is Ryzen complementary.

>>60324290
You still on 1080p and only playing CS:GO?

>>60324290
Just do it anyway.
the RX580 is just as good as GTX 1070 with a 5% loss of FPS

>>60324300
1440p60 currently playing battlegrounds, gta 5, prey, civ 6 and replaying through hitman 2016. some skyrim special edition on the side but not very often.

>>60324290
Well... the thing is, Nvidia GPUs aren't working very well with Ryzen at the moment. Nvidia is working on a driver patch that should fix it, though.

>>60324322
Given you still haven't bout. Vega is threeish weeks away, should tank the price of the 1070. Even 1080's if ya lucky.

>>60324337
Today in i don't understand how a cpu gpu or api work....

>>60324337
there was nothing to suggest i couldn't maintain 1440p60 on ryzen even with these issues

>>60324340
i already have a gtx 1070. that's why i was going to upgrade the cpu. i've had the 1070 for ~3 months now.

>>60324345
nVidia API is flawed, and DX12 drivers are broken.
You dumb motherfucker.

>>60324355
what CPU do you have right now?

>>60323126
My r5 1600 is at 4GHz and doesn't go beyond 60degC using a 212 evo and a b350 with memory OC'd to 2666MHz cl14

My rx480 is clocked at 1400MHz and only goes up to 66deg under full load

>>60324375
What voltage is the cpu at?

>>60324372
4690k

>>60323910
oh yeah because everyone compiles the linux kernal 7 times every hour,...
useless in the real world

>>60324381
1.35 on the vcore so yeah I got pretty lucky and I ran a couple hours of stability tests

Although the ambient temp is pretty low rn fucking winter won't go away

>>60324400
Why even consider upgrading?
You should be in the gravy for the next 3 years at least.

>>60324420
because i somehow managed to break a bunch of shit on my motherboard when i was removing my old gpu out and buying a new z97 motherboard is super expensive now. even used is pretty expensive. i mean, it works but i'm limited to dual channel ram and only one pci port.

>>60323223

>msi titanium

kek

MSI Titanium AM4 has a shit VRM.

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>>60323988

>>60324363
Nvidea has an API? neat. I always thought mantle was cool from AMD.

It'd be nice when they bring out their ITX board chipset.

>>60324447
Problem is 4k gaming is like that because of gpu bottlenecks. Not because they are equal.
I just want a cpu that lasts me 5 years. Ryzen is probably the answer but I'm scared.

>>60324441
I have similar problem with my motherboard but instead by motherboards chipset got fried somewhat, still gravy after a year.

>dual channel ram and only one pci port.
It's all that you need, to be honest.

>>60324448
nVidia has billions of APIs, or are you /v/irgin who thinks that API only references to multimedia?

>>60324471
true. i'd like to upgrade to 2x8gb sticks but ddr3 is super fucking expensive now.

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>>60324231
Ryzen 5 is garbage at tons of things

It's just a better priced Ryzen 7, with all the same limitations and even slower performance

>>60324166
>Tom's kikeware

>>60323126
>suck on gayming
I get 60fps+ maxed out on 1080, all games. I think it does 60fps+ on all games 1440p with a GPU.

>>60324290
That's sad, these people are truly insane. They don't care about actual performance, it's just a delusional AMD cult.

>>60324231
Those 2 extra cores on the 1700 are nice to have

>>60324445
So, just like any MSI board?
Those things are firecrackers

>people are unironically shilling 4/4 abortions in 2015+2
What the fuck.

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>>60324459
The 8350 is making gains because of cores.
No need to be scared.

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Haha, Intel is dead. Can't OC chips, has awful microstutter in games and overheats.

Meanwhile AMD costs less, still maxes out games and destroys Intel on everything else plus comes with a stock cooler that does a very good job.

Intel is dead.

>>60324548
same exact single threaded test, every time.
What next, AutoCAD?

>>60324563
if you need them, sure.
Most people will see no benefits of Ryzen 7
and that was kinda the argument.

>>60324595
How do I interpret this

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>>60324598
You do realize all those cores are useless in 99% of cases, that's why Ryzen is getting killed in so many benchmarks

>>60324614
>3 photoshop CC benches
>AutoCAD

So many, it's spoopy.

>>60324614
That's easy to say when a $60 pentium is overkill for 95% of all cases.

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>corelets

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>>60324623
I can post these all day

>>60324626
There's a big difference between overkill and being useless

The problem with Ryzen is the cores are literally useless, i.e. they aren't even being used at all

>>60324612
Benchmarking is inconsistent and either chip is powerful enough for whatever you plan to do with it so stop being a fanboy dickhead.

Don't forget that Nvidia has also 'collaborated' with software companies to make CUDA the "industry standard" when supporting both openCL and CUDA would be much more fair.

>>60324640
you are going to post AutoCAD and say "look it's different, it has different name, who cares that effectively it's the same shit?"

>>60324649
go play your games lil kidd

>>>/v/

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>>60324650
Yes good goy, ignore the numbers, it's all the same. Might as well buy Ryzen because it's "good enough".

>>60324666
>posts tons of application benchmarks
>games

What's the average IQ of an AMD user, like 80 at the most?

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>>60324683
>posting cherry picked benchmarks from toms shillware

>>60324683
>>60324675

See >>60324586

Intel has serioues stuttering problems plus it's cores are maxed during gaming. Alt+Tab on W10 with a 7600k while gaming and it's shit. My 1700 destroys every effort of the 7600k. The 7700k I have stutters still and still gets maxed on most cores.

I miss the old amd the athlon amd :(

>>60323126
>It's AMD's final year
There, fixed it for ya.

>>60324363
OK dude. Also nobody uses dx12.

>>60324375
who's your rx480 vendor?

>>60324662
The good goy didn't pay do for his multithreaded plugin

>>60324683
>Lets test a E5-2698V4 in only single threaded applications and games
>Oh wow an overclocked i3-7350K beats a $3500 processor!

That's how fucking stupid you are, shill

Polaris is slower than the 390/390X though, not on pair.

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>>60324586
Intel is seriously bad at everything

~15(!) months ago people on /g/ were asking if a 980ti is a good buy and got told to wait for new AMD chips that would totally come any minute. not later than june for sure.

now almost 2 years after release, AMD still doesn't have anything better than the 980ti while Nvidia is already announcing Volta. they just can't keep up with them.

>>60324581
>posting that adoretard graph that was debunked by hw unboxed
kill yourself drone

>>60324744
This

>>60323126
where is my agesa 1.0.0.5?

I bought at $5 and sold at $15, feels good man

>>60326547
Found the vid
https://youtu.be/76-8-4qcpPo

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Some actual news: AMD added two new device ID's for VEGA cards to the GNU/Linux kernel driver stack yesterday. They have published the code, they've already put it in place and you can go take a look right now if you are curious what VEGA device IDs 0x6864 and 0x6868 are.

This latest push gives us a total number of *9* VEGA device IDs. That's right, there will be a total of nine different VEGA cards.

I need an upgrade form my amd 380, what's the next level and also with less TDP?

>>60323862
Is there a script to do this to every file in every subdirectory in a given dir? I have a similarly large movie collection and I'd like to transcode all of it to HEVC.

>>60327848
I wouldn't. I realize nobody here accepts Passmark as a valid benchmark but it's good for me enough for a rough comparison.

Radeon R9 380 scores roughly 6000 at a 190W TDP.

The Radeon 480 scores roughly 8000 at a 150W TDP. They don't have numbers for the 580 but that's just the 480 overclocked which gives it slightly higher performance at a higher 185W TDP.

To put it another way, upgrading to the best AMD card available would mean paying a whole lot of cash for a rather minor increase in performance.

If I had this card then I would simply keep it for half a year or a year and see what kind of performance gap there is between your card and a brand new card. You can obviously sell the card you have but you're still talking "a lot" of money for a minor increase in performance. We're just talking some minor change in the scheme of things unless you're really poor but you're not squeezing every penny if you upgrade to some other AMD card. The alternative, if you really want more performance, would be to get a high-end NVidia card but now you're talking $1000 not $300 and the performance-per-dollar ratio gets even worse.

>>60324190
as if you or anyone ITT is better lmao

>>60323126
So this is the daily troll thread, right?

>only good in multicore apps
I mean, we could just keep cranking up core clocks, shrinking nodes, and increasing pipeline size, but that's inefficient as fuck since all of those together cost more than adding more cores, and won't be sustainable forever without increasing TDP. But hey, fuck future computing, right? We should have stuck with single core CPUs, multicore was a mistake. All computers are good for is gaming anyway, and real games only use one core.

Polaris is pretty efficient for being on par with Hawaii. If you consume less power while outputting the same performance, that's an increase in efficiency.

>>60323259
Generally when people refer to Israel here, they're talking about Intel, not Nvidia.

>>60323862
>h265ize
damn this is great
I wish I had a Ryzen CPU now
this alone might make me purchase one

>>60324183
They're still tearing it up
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html#3
>When OVER HALF THE ARTICLE is trying to justify only recommending one manufacturers CPUs, despite there being better alternatives in both price and performance, you know you're unbiased as hell.

Ryzen 3 fucking when?

>>60323947
It does, but you see the most stress in 64 player servers. Many of the benchmarks are done in the singleplayer campaign, where load is much lighter (albeit more predictable, which makes it better for benchmarks) on the CPU so you rarely see examples of just how well it scales across more cores on paper. With a Sky/Kaby Lake i5 at 4.4GHz in 64 player multiplayer, it's not uncommon to be pegged at a constant 90%+ CPU load (if your GPU is good enough to push enough frames, this generally happens above 90fps on Ultra). If you don't cap fps, the stutter is pretty bad.

[h265ize]: [ffmpeg] Processing: 2fps 0.8% [00:01:05.72] | 00:09:14 [x0.083] 27:09:00

fuck, I need to buy a Ryzen CPU asap

>>60324313
Y

>>60323776
>cost per fps
What a shit metric.

Try cost per minimum fps, or cost per second not spent stuttering

>>60328531
They didn't even put the G4560 on the list and the freaking 7350K is there. What a meme

>>60328561
>>60328531

Indeed.

Don't get me wrong, my 6700k is great, but the stuttering thing is pretty real. It's not awful, or unplayable, just annoying as shit, sometimes. That, and the old AMD motherboards were >>>>> current Intel ones.

>>60325781
seriously who plays that game?
its literally the game devs make when they run out of ideas.

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>>60328639
But muh gaymen.

>People keep spamming video game benchmarks when 99% of people aren't being GPU bottlenecked so having a better CPU will improve your FPS by like 2-3 frames at most compared to actually saving money on getting a weaker CPU and a better GPU
Do you /v/ kids only play CS 1.6 at 640x480, or what?

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>>60325781
>AMDdrones this triggered

>>60328751
do me a favor and cherrypick some h265 1080p benchmarks so you can BTFO these AMDfags
[spoiler]and so i can decide which CPU to buy[/spoiler]

>>60328782
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-and-ryzen-7-review-a-deep-dive-on-1800x-1700x-and-1700/20

>>60328682
what gpu are they using? this looks fake.

but my question still stands, who the fuck players that shitty slowmo sniper series.

>>60328810
thanks but they're doing 4k to 1080, any 1080 to 1080?

>>60328817
It is false, see bottom of them page:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600X/12.html

>>60328751
>1500X - 112.3 fps
>7700k - 111.6 fps
AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAH

>>60328817
>but my question still stands, who the fuck players that shitty slowmo sniper series.
you'll understand when you're 40 years old, anon

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>>60323126
PLEASE STOP

>>60328845
I understand now. i suppose there is a growing market.

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>>60323126
Daily reminder it took this long for AMD to barely reach the 2500k

>>60328868
It's a game for middle-age dads. It's like the AC/DC of FPS games.

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Why is Intel's BEST CPU FOR GAYMEN so fucking shit?

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>>60328882

>>60328821
If it takes a dump on Intel in 4k to 1080 then I don't see why it would be any different in 1080 to 1080

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>>60328901
>If it takes a dump on Intel in 4k to 1080
it doesn't, intel wins
...as usual

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>>60328682
>"Deus Ex: Mankind Divided provides rare respite for the Ryzen processors; they beat their Intel competition in convincing fashion during the game's benchmark".
The website itself notes the performance is an outlier.
Which is why their conclusions were ultimately that the R7 provides inferior performance to the i7 generally, and oftentimes the 7600K as well.

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>>60328899
>Even the super top of the line 1800x barely beats the 2500k

Supporting AMD is antisemitic. Stand with Israel - do not buy from AMD.

>>60328957
>barely
even the lowly 8350 has caught up to the 2500k due to the increases in optimization and greater utilization of moar corez
I know you're just some kid goofing around and sillyposting but for innocent bystanders, the truth is that the Ryzen CPUs are pretty good in general

and muh magic passmark number doesn't change the fact that the 2500k performs like 20% worse in gaymen than the 1800X in many games

>>60324258
Leddit >>>/r/amd

Faggot

>>60328987
>and muh magic passmark number doesn't change the fact that the 2017 1800x flagship performs only like 20% better in gaymen than the 2011 mid-range 2500k in many games

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>>60328953
The common consensus is that i5s are pretty much obsoleted since Ryzen offers superior gaming experience.

>>60329019
>Intel's current-gen offerings provide maybe 25% more performance by this same line in the sand
>oOOoooOo muh current year
lol fek off m8

>>60328987
Ryzen is not good for gaming. why can't amd drones accept this?

Maybe, when Zen+ gets released and AMD boosts its IPC. It would be worth it.

I highly doubt it though, they keep pushing this more cores/shit single thread meme since Phenom days.

>>60329067
>AMDdrones
>accepting anything even slightly negative about the savior of mAMDkind
>ever

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>>60323126
At this point they are just abusing people with autism.
Their marketing is pure scam, and all they do is shove more cores in.

>>60329067
>>60329084
I just buy whatever's better for my purposes. There's nothing wrong with AMD here. You seem really committed to trolling.

Again, I get that you guys are just dumb kids, but just in case anyone who's on the fence is reading, the current AMD lineup is a solid offering.

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Why are data center's waiting for Naples?
Why did Microsoft tell Intel to fuck off?

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>>60324166
Tom's

>>60329105
You don't have to be so feisty, nobody's calling you personally an AMDdrone.

>>60329105
>you're just kids
>muh ryzen

Alright pal.

>>60329132
you can't be more than 16 years old to be posting that way

if you are you are a legit manchild

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Lets get some real benches for these shills

>>60329141
>keeps relying on ad hominem attacks to defend his favorite cpu brand

Alright pal.

>>60324231
>0.069 seconds difference in a single-threaded test
Is this significant at all?

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>>60329022
>The common consensus
Yes, consensus is easy to achieve within the echo chambers of places like r/AMD.
However, in the real world, where competing opinions aren't squashed, websites high and low all came to similar conclusions: the R7 is terribad value for gaming. The R5 is a better value proposition, but even there they trade blows with the i5s depending on the games. You want to start cherrypicking? Given that more websites found the Ryzen CPUs lacking in game performance relative to Intel than vice-versa, I can assure you I have significantly more ammunition than you do.

I don't understand how reviews across web independently realizing the same thing is difficult to trust. Perhaps the Jewish cabal that secretly runs Intel slipped mind-control serum into everyone's coffee. I dunno man. But I'm sure you have your theories.

nvidia V100 presented 120TFlops in fp16, 7.5 in fp64...evebn in GPGPU market amd will fail

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>>60329157
Intel CPUs are awful at pretty much everything. Being reduced to only two SKUs is really bad. And the 7700k is still a stuttering housefire. Only the G4560 is nice because it's really cheap.

>>60329192
Continues to cherry pick the low tier ryzens

>>60324345
>i don't understand how a cpu gpu or api work....
Long story short Nvidia has a big problem in their drivers in that they can't multithread well, as you can see by Ryzen VS Intel benchmarks.
Their DX12 implementation is also broken. They're probably working on fixing it, but for now AMDs drivers have the upper hand. Strange, I know.

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>>60329226
keep circle jerking and ignoring the evidence, throttle faggots

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>>60329192
>Yes, consensus is easy to achieve within the echo chambers of places like r/AMD
By consensus I meant the rest of the world, sorry to burst your bubble but even dumb shills like salazar realized their mistakes.

But hey, you have the right to stay delusional while the rest of the world stays in reality.

>>60324459
>I just want a cpu that lasts me 5 years
The good thing about buying AMD CPUs is that you can sell it later and buy a better CPU without buying a new mobo, and you still get the best CPU for most use-cases.

If you go Intel and you want to upgrade, you better be ready to churn out for a new mobo.

>>60329228
The 1700 is represented, dipshit. It still can't best a stock 7600K in Tom's bench for GTA V.
Cherrypicking is easy bro. Especially when there's more evidence for my case than yours.

>>60324459
See
>>60329215
Be assured your CPU intensive games will have twice the min fps at 4K than 7700K, and still be running 50% utilisation

>>60329161
Calling you out on being a childish idiot isn't an 'ad hominem' you moron, take your wikiphd elsewhere
>hurr if you insult me that constitutes a logical fallacy

>>60324459
>4k
That's precisely why Ryzen is even a better choice for 4K. It maxes the game the same as Intel and you still get to reap the multi-threading benefit from Ryzen that Intel misses.

Why can't AMD just fucking die already so we don't have to put up with this shit

>>60328751
Thanks for proving how a 7700K is a really bad investment.

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>>60324447
Fixed your scammy image shill

>>60324640
>toms

You're a bit out of the loop.

>>60329328
Because you touch yourself at night while thinking about all the trees you payed to be planted in Israel.

>>60323126

Ryzen is really good and intel doesnt look like they are ready for competition. The expensive as fuck enterprise market is usually where you see the stuff they hold back from the consumer market. They cant egt the clock speed much higher no matter what.

Intel needs to build on ryzen Intel looks like they are in the process of a major choke. They better be putting money back into R&D.

I cant wait to see these amd server chips I need to replace my freenas box.

>>60329328
Literally my first thoughts

>>60329347

Who cares by the time the gpus get passed it next gen chips will be coming.

>>60329328
Be careful what you wish for, Apple will buy AMD someday and dominate the CPU market

>>60328922
>intel wins
Intel ties, is what you mean.

>>60329253
Jesus fucking Christ Intel CPUs are a stuttery mess

>>60329403
Great, maybe Apple will actually be competent and not fuck up every single release

>>60329406
last time I checked, 47 > 46

this is one of the only areas where 8 cores should actually help, but it doesn't

>>60329403
>>60329423
>implying Apple will ever make its cpu compatible with windows.

>>60329426
>8 cores should actually help

I'll give you that. But I'll never defend the Ryzen 8 core CPUs. They're bad for games, we agree. They're great value for multi-threaded workloads though.

I defend the 6-core parts for games though, and a 1600X would score the same as a 1800X and is much cheaper than a 7700K.

>>60329347
And in that time multi-threading practices should improve.
7700K only has what, 15% single core over Ryzen?
Meanwhile Ryzen has 8 cores and 16 threads only being used 50 something percent as of present.
Improve that and it's heads and shoulders above a 4core 7700k

>>60329475
>They're great value for multi-threaded workloads though
why is it slower than the 4-core 7700k? shit is bonkers.

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>literally the same images and replies posted for the last two months from both parties.

Is /g/ the most autistic board in 4chan?

>>60329580
Yep. There's no doubt you could replace benchmark spammers on both sides with bots and never tell the difference. It's the same song and dance every fucking time.

>>60329580
Defending obsoleted CPUs is definitely a sign of autism.

>>60329495
Just wait until the 6 core Coffee Lake CPUs come out and lose half (or more) of their single core advantage. We might even see some hardcore idiots continue defending the 7700K or even reccomend the 7740K.

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>>60329637

>>60329651
ebin :--------DDDDDDDD

>I'm using AMD
pajeed detected poo in loo XDDDD
>I'm using Intel
Stop shilling!! Gas the jews XDDDDD

Can you faggots please fuck off?

>>60324073
>add flags
>every lasting bit of discussion is reduced to ad hominem
Fuck, no. IDs would be a good idea tho, it would discourage the shitposting.

>>60329495
The fuck are you talking about? Even the 1600X wipes the floor with the 7700K on multi-threaded tasks, let alone a 1800X.

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>>60329361
>Ryzen is really good and intel doesnt look like they are ready for competition

>>60329697
yeah ok bud, see also >>60328810
and >>60328922

>jump into conversation and ignore all context
>hurf durf

>>60329697
Intel shills are disconnected from reality.

>>60329302
typical fanboy, every time.

I miss inelite, at least that retard could be fun and sometime resulting new OC for the board
These days it just some retarded anon posting the same shitposting over and over again for weeks, this board is getting boring now.
At least produce new OC instead of posting months old image charts.

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>>60329703
Wipe out the last 3 generations of Intel processors and they would still be better than Ryzen.

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>>60329743
>I miss inelite

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>>60329743
This is the only chart that matters.

>>60329765
Seen like dozens times, its getting stale.

>>60329774
Did I stutter?

>>60329759
And now for some actual facts >>60329157

>>60324447
>console emulation
>+50% for Intel

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>>60329765
No, this is.

>>60329347
>content creation
>while Photoshop performs better on Intel
Nice try tho

>>60329874
>muh one single filter that runs with a single core
All it proves is Photoshop is junk that Adobe should've updated properly years ago.

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>>60329765
>>60329862
Are you even trying?

>>60328810
>>60329723
>Day 1 review with now known to be faulty BIOS

Your brand loyalty is showing anon.

>>60329488
>multi-threading practices should improve.
JUST WAIT™

>>60329862
What is that a benchmark for... oh... never mind, carry on.

How many months until both sides getting bored by these autistic shitposting?

>>60329765
had a proper giggle

>>60329899
Clearly Adobe fault.

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>>60329917
holy shit I have been called a shill by at least 3 different retards in this thread and at least two of them support opposing products

>tfw being unbiased makes me a shill

>>60329385
>Why just upgrade the GPU every few generations when you can upgrade the whole package

Nigga, I've been running an i7-2600 for six years now and never upgraded anything besides the GPU, wen't trough everything from a 560ti to a 1070...

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>>60329909

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JUST WAIT

>>60329926
Never.

>>60329985

welp, no wonder board like /pol/ laugh at us.

>>60330008
/pol/ is too busy spamming diversity hire bait to care about these autism magnet threads.

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>>60329954
Ok anon, but if you're unbiased get your info updated. Those benchmarks have been invalidated long ago.
Yes, it's a shame Ryzen's launch was the mess it was but it's been sorted out for a good while now.

>>60329926
The problem is having SIDES. If these faggots would stock sucking Intel/AMD dick they would choose and recommend the best CPU for each use case and call it a day.

Get a 7700K if all you do is gaming.
Get a 1700X if all you do is encoding or number-crunching.
Get a 1600 for any other or mixed scenarios.

WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60330008
Every board laugh at /g/. We are like /x/ but tech literate.

I want to see the shills fight in their native poo tongue. tell the other side what you really mean in hindu

>>60330042
>Ok anon, but if you're unbiased get your info updated. Those benchmarks have been invalidated long ago.
I am willing to listen to you here but unless you can provide me with another source with this same or a similar benchmark, I really can't do anything with what you're saying.. all I can do is trust the numbers.

>>60330046
>/g/
>tech literate

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>>60330008
>board like /pol/ laugh at us
>/pol/

That leaves me so sadden I can't even sleep.

>>60330042
>WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How are we supposed to fill countless threads with autism if we do that?

>>60330033
That's the sad part, the bottom of the barrel board actually laughing at /g/.

>>60330067
Dunno man, I've only been studying the 1600 and 1600X mostly as I'm not interested in Ryzen 7, but from the comparison benchmarks I say, between the new BIOSes and software optimizations there was a severe uplift in performance. Improved RAM speeds also helped.

>>60330086
At least it's ironic. But the Intel/AMD shilling is very fucking real.

>>60330086
Old /g/ autism is much better than this botposting.
Its literally the same replies for freaking two months.

>>60330042
>Get a 7700K if all you do is gaming.
>Get a 1700X if all you do is encoding or number-crunching.
>Get a 1600 for any other or mixed scenarios.
Those are shitty advices.

>>60330120
yes but I need actual sources and numbers. some hard data

>>60330162
There were like three or four Zen-related threads in path two month that contained actual discussion.

>>60330213
There was an entire Volta thread last night that got nuked from orbit by the mods due to terminal infestation with shitposters spamming 'poo', 'pajeet' etc.

It didn't even have anything to do with AMD, they don't even compete in the high-end AI workstation space. But they showed up and shit it up anyway.

>>60330191
What's yours?

>>60330311
Radeon Instinct is kinda a thing now though.

>>60330330
buy product Z because I love it love it love it!
Z4lyfe

>>60330330
Different usage and budget means different processors, but it's never as straight forward as you make it to be
Telling someone to get an 7700k because she's searching for a cpu to play games would be retarded, the R5 1600 is generally a better choice. 7700k is only if you want to crunch the highest possible number of frame per second.

>>60330663
>Telling someone to get an 7700k because she's searching for a cpu to play games would be retarded

Have to agree. I was referring to people that want maximum FPS regardless of value though.

>>60329874
photoshop faggot living in a photoshop world

>>60323138
Sounds a little racist there anon. Also, they bend easily, and their hairs secrete naturally flammable oils

>>60323987
There's two reason Kaby Lake has higher single threaded performance:
• Clock speeds because of the manufacturing process used
• Intel's compiler

Summit Ridge has higher possible IPC. It's just not taken advantage of by compilers yet.

Pinnacle Ridge will leap ahead of Kaby in IPC even with a compiler disadvantage.

>>60323995
> Tom's hard

new thread when