/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60321732
copied from old OP because im not usually OP, but we need new thread

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I need a motherboard that utilize the latest DDR4 ram speeds to the fullest extent possible.

>>60321749
>>60299391 is the new OP.

>>60321852
I don't want 1440p, I want 144hz.

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1tb ssd recommendations? the one I was gonna buy jumped in price by $100

>>60321882
Get 1440p 144hz yo.

The extra CUs and VRAM don't help hardly for 1080p. Moar ROPs, higher clocked ROPs, and ROP IPC helps 1080p. RX570 and RX580 have the same ROPs.

So whenever EK releases vega blocks, do you think they'll be smol like the Fury X blocks, or do you think some of the AIB partners will use longer PCBs?

Also, reminder that according to islamic law, blandcucks should be shot

>>60321907
Why the fuck would you make a huge PCB for smol HBM card?

>>60321869
ah, will save for next time
thanks

>>60321932
Height reduction maybe? Since they don't need the space for VRAM anymore, could they redesign the card to be narrower?

>>60321899
Every single monitor I can find that does both is 27" instead of 24" and at least $150 more expensive.

>>60321732

>fractal design nano s vs phanteks evolv itx vs cougar qbx vs cougar qbx kaze

Which one for my next build? looking for something smaller. Gonna OC on air and will use 2 3.5" HDDs (maybe 3 in the future) and 2 2.5" SSDs.
I think cooling is the main issue here since I'm not water cooling.

>>60322056
How small is your home?

>>60321968
>height reduction
the fury was barely taller than the bracket
>narrower
i doubt they will release a single slot version even if it's long with the tdp, they could barely get a single slot 1070 at 150w
just my 2 cents, it would be interesting though
i would love to see a fat 3 slot dual fan design though, taller than normal too, with some nice big slow fans

>>60322056
get the ftz01 if you can get by with 3x 2.5 and 1x 3.5.

silverstone makes nice cases, but they are shit company unfortunately.

>>60322019
1440 is pointless on a 24 inch screen

>>60322092
Have you seen the new 2017 Toyota Corolla?
Now imagine 4 of those in a 2x2 formation.

That's how big my home is.

would it be worth it to get a dual xeon lga 2011 build going instead of 1700x if i want to make sure that my computer won't get bugged down with CPU intensive tasks for years to come?

lga 2011v3 xeons are out of my price range

>>60322019
Put the monitor 11% further away from your eyes and it will look the same as 24".
$150 more is nothing for what you get.
That GPU is also almost $70 more for little benefit in in 1080p.

>>60321732
>>i3 are only worthwhile for dwarf fortress & single-purpose emulator boxes
>>i5 aren't worthwhile. Get Ryzen 5, drop down to G4560, or up to R7/i7
>>i7-7700k is good but bad value. If over budget, an R5 is probably as good or better for you
Who the fuck wrote this marketing bullspin bullshit? Intel's line-up absolutely BTFO out of Ryzen for 95% of games out today. An i5-7500 trounces a 6-core (with HT, mind you) in Adobe CC suites and scales far better with faster memory frequencies than Ryzen can ever hope to achieve. The i3 is objectively the best gaming CPU for any game running an API older than DX11. The i7-7700K is the best value to performance CPU on the market right now, especially when overclocked.

Can someone make a REAL, non-shill thread and report this one for advertising and marketing?

>>60322092
pretty big but I'm tired of big cases.

>>60322101
I need at least 2x 3.5 drives, I already compromised on not having a optical drive (which I use from time to time), gonna use an external one when I need it.

After fighting my broken build for around a year now I am calling it quits and upgrading. So this is basically an upgrade. What do you guys think? I am going for a mid-ranged computer, the most graphically intensive games I own are Dark Souls and Nier.

Also, a note on the heatsink: I have taken off and put on that heat sink multiple times throughout the year and it is a huge pain in the ass. Are there any other heat sinks which are easier to install? Preferably third party, because I live in the south-east USA and it gets hot here.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bayonetta4life/saved/MYWycf

>>60322157
>Can someone make a REAL, non-shill thread and report this one for advertising and marketing?

If you want something done right, do it yourself.

>>60322157
>Can someone make a REAL, non-shill thread and report this one for advertising and marketing?
no, these threads are dominated by shills.

>>60322157
(You) tried.

>>60322121
depending on your workload maybe, the 2670 is a mean deal right now and is 80% as good as a 1800x, 2 of them makes it 160% the performance
you're gonna be locked into a dead end system though, where on am4 you'd have upgrade options for the next 4 years
wait for amd to make an announcement in regard to naples if you can, or wait a bit and see if the rumors about a 16 core desktop chip are true. either way naples will either be a bangin deal like ryzen has been so far or get intel to drop their prices, doesnt affect the going rate of used gear, so it's not like you're missing out on a deal

1080ti or Wait(TM) for Vega?
I have the Gsync meme but it's not important to me

R5 1600s are $190 at Jet. There's a $110 1050Ti and cheap RX580s as well.

>>60322191
you already paid for gsync, so even if vega is the same or slightly better than a 1080ti for the same or less price, you shouldnt have a problem paying more for the same

>>60322188
when is naples supposed to come out?

The Intel shills are persuading me to not build a ryzen rig. What do

>>60321888
Try the Mushkin Reactor its was half the price of an 850 Pro

>>60322211
apparently there's supposed to be an announcement coming on the 16th. as for release i think they are targetting 3rd quarter. so far naples looks crazy good, and the fact that the ryzen chips are only losing because of clockspeed and have way lower tdp makes them very interesting for server chips. potentially running higher performance at same tdp from intel, or running same performance lower tdp from intel
its looking really really good for naples, even better than for r5 or r7

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>>60322157

>>60322191
If you already have Gsync, and don't plan to get a new HDR10 monitor soon, then get 1080Ti.

>>60322211
Within 6 weeks. Naples isn't on AM4 tho.
It's the HEDT platform you should look at. There may very well be consumer 2p boards. AMD has done them in the past. They don't lock things down as much as Intel does.

>>60322255
remove shill

>>60322157
7700k is the only intel cpu worth buying atm given amd's lineup.

>>60322102
>>60322123
Do you two not understand what kind of nonsense you're spilling?

>1440 is pointless on a 24 inch screen
A 24" screen is something that I want while 1440p isn't.

>$150 more is nothing for what you get.
WHAT THE FUCK DO I GET?

If I push the monitor away to make it look smaller, I can't fucking see any of the extra details that 1440p would give me over 1080p.

So, you're telling me to spend more money just to hurt my framerate.

>That GPU is also almost $70 more for little benefit in in 1080p.
Looking at benchmarks comparing a stock 480 to a stock 580, this is kind of a thing, BUT it isn't any different in 1440p than it is 1080p.

>>60322279
>>60322284
will the pricing for naples be retardedly high though? i'd like to keep the CPU + motherboard cost under $1k. if i go with 1700x with the microcenter promo i can keep it under $400.

can any of you bastards finally tell me why everytime i post here i get told to go with the msi gaming x370 carbon pro instead of something else? why that board over something like the asrock x370 killer?

>>60322305
you can't play at 1080 resolution on a 1440p monitor ya know

>>60322338
i doubt it. naples should scale from single socket 8 core up through dual socket 32 core chips (total of 64) im sure they'll have a config that would fit your needs. beyond that, if pricing is anything like the desktop chips have been, and there's no reason it shouldnt be at least to some extent, its gonna be crazy

>>60322355
you can

>>60322346
Get X370 Prime.

>>60322355
>>60322403
Sure, but why in the name of all that is holy would you ever do that when it'd made it look like a blurry mess?

I swear, some people have the worst ideas.

This would only be a reasonable suggestion if we're talking about two resolutions that scale perfectly, like 1080p on a 4k monitor.

>>60322346
Better RAM speed, maybe?

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>>60322157
>The i7-7700K is the best value to performance CPU on the market right now, especially when overclocked.

Enjoy your Kaby Lake housefire

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>>60322437
>when it'd made it look like a blurry mess?

>>60322465
ryzen becomes a housefire when overclocked past 1.35v and it' still slower on single threaded tasks...

>>60322536
>ryzen becomes a housefire
Ryzen NEVER becomes a housefire when overclocking because it's not at all limited by heat.

>>60322425
considering this board as well, but as i understand it the asrock has a better vrm design. could be wrong though ill have to dig around. I've used asus before though so i'd be more familiar in the bios, which would be nice
>>60322458
that could be it

>>60322579
Just a heads up on the assrock. It's got 12 phases. It'll consume more power, even if it's not drawing from those phases.
But should be better for an extreme overclock/squeeze out an extra 50-100Mhz.
Mentioning because power costs in Aus are a cunt.

>>60322536
If you dump voltage into it past what it needs for 3.9-4.0ghz. Rather have a cool CPU than a housefire at 4.5.

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>>60322560
Meanwhile back in reality.

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>>60322169
i5 is stupid buy when you can get 1600

>>60322652
I only buy Intel. Suck it.

>>60322711
don't ask questions then

>>60322600
its not a true 12 phase, its a doubled 6. and thats only on the taichi and top end gaming board
power is included in dorm costs, so i dont mind, i have to pay the same no matter what

>>60322628
>AMD recommends you don't go over 20% above the stock voltage
>Intel recommends you don't OC at all on your expensive "k" cpu
k

So I have had 2 WD hard drives fail on me in the past year and a half or so. I'm thinking of going with an ssd, but they're pretty expensive. Can anyone help me decide to go either way or tell me what drives wont just die overnight?

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>>60322897
I've got two Kingston U400 SSD's in RAID0. No problem
Power-On Hours (POH) 139d 6h

I think you've been unlucky or your PSU is shitting the bed.

>>60322897
hgst/hitatchi for most reliable hdd. ive had one last over 12 years as well as had 4 running 24/7 reading/writing a lot of that time in a nas for almost 4 years now
for ssd just go with a crucial mx300 and be happy, or whatever is cheap if you dont care about speed. realistically you wont see a difference
but like >>60322935 said it very well may be another problem, ie bad psu or dirty power from wall

where the fuck do i put my case cables into the mobo? some of them are perfect fits but others arent

>>60323015
It depends on the cables.
You put the power and reset switches on the power and reset pins, you put the USB cable sin the USB header sockets and you put the audio jack cable in the audio whatever.

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>>60322536

>>60321861
Some of the ROG x270 mobo's from Asus support 4200mhz ddr4

>>60322305
LG 24GM79G-B
24 inch 144hz monitor

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Is there gonna be a ryzen 3 line?

>>60323298
Yes, AMD CEO said release is start of H2 2017.

>>60323150
I'm still not going to believe you till you post temps using ryzen master.

>>60323305
You need windows 10 for that.

remove anti static wrist band from wiki

"Wireless" or "dissipative" wrist straps are available, which claim to protect against ESD without needing a ground wire, typically by air ionization or corona discharge. These are widely regarded as ineffective,[9][10][11] if not fraudulent, and examples have been tested and shown not to work.[12][13] Professional ESD standards all require wired wrist straps.[9]

>>60323603
But the wiki isn't talking about the bullshit wireless straps. I think anyone with half a brain knows that wearing a metal bracelet with no wire to a grounding isn't going to do shit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Besides the CPU...what do you guys think of this for an 'SLI in the future' setup?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxjxm8

currently have i3 4130
Mboard is Gigabyte B85-HD3
GPU is GTX 750ti

made my build over 7 years ago and looking for upgrade. just want something under 700 and consistent 60fps. i ain't fancy so all my peripherals are stock shit walmart.

>>60324016
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hqKb6X

Okay second try.

>>60321732
Capacitors, resistors, radiators and integrated circuits.

>>60324026
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hqKb6X
sli in the future, you would want to go 1080ti i would think. also, if you're gonna go with an i7 that would be the one, unless you're going to delid. although since you seem to be thinking about upgrading in the future i would think ryzen would fit better, as you'll be able to upgrade your cpu too.
besides the cpu everything looks good, maybe consider going up to a 750 just to be safe on psu though
and i just noticed monitor, i7 is probably better call for 144hz

How many PCI-E lanes does the 1700 and the 1600x have ?

My friend gave me an old workstation that has dual xeons from 775 era or a little later and it has a raid controller. What should I do with it. Selling it would be nice it probably has ecc ddr2 ram

>>60324414
16+4/6/8 depending on chipset.

>>60324483
b350m and x370?

>>60324016
Just don't do it. Crossfire is bad enough, and it's at least a good value. SLI is generally worse than Crossfire, while being drastically more expensive. Any time you'd consider SLI as an upgrade, selling you current card and buying a new one would be the better value.

>>60324510
1700/1600x has x16 PCIe lanes
b350 has x6
x370 has x8

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>>60324531

>>60324515
>sli worse that crossfire
hate to break it to you buddy but that isnt true. in most cases sli will scale better and the frame times are a lot nicer. only exception being the fury series cards. it is more expensive to sli though, given that the cards you can sli are more expensive since you can only crossfire 1070 and above, and that you need a x370 mobo if you go amd

>>60323665
theyre both useless

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How often are good m-ITX HTPC boxes on sale?

I need to make a few cheap testing builds. Like one with a GCN APU, and a, i5-2500, i5-4570.
The problem is the case makes the cost stupid.
I like picture related, but it's $80, which winds up being 1/3rd the build cost or more for each.

You'd think such a tiny case, so little material, I would get for <$40 easy.
There are cheaper ones, but I still want it to be compact, look nice, and have decent airflow.

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If I buy 2 AMD GPU's for my build, one cheap (rx 550, maybe), to run my desktop and another something like rx 580 to passthrough to VM.

Will it work?
Can I have 2 different GPU's installed in my motherboard?

>>60324772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bYSC6OT6s

>>60324788
Yes. Most B350 boards seem to boot the x4 GPU at the bottom first so it can boot for your Linux desktop and have the x16 one for pass through which is grouped on the CPU.

It seems lm_sensors isn't working except on ASRock. But MSI did say they're working on improving Linux support. But the pro4 mATX will only take a 2 slot GPU.

>>60324824
Where you learn this? What about x370 do they have iemmi problem?

I had bought a memeboard from asus a while back (z97 sabertooth s) with the cool looking white armor for my all white build (i browse /pol/). Now it has these shitty little assist fans to blow around air under the armor. But even then my VRM hit about 60+c while gaming.

Now Anus says that their mosfets or whatever have been tested for thousands of hours at 100c+ so it should be fine. But the temps in thermal armor 2 actually mark it as red, which has me worried a little.

My OC is quite modest, 1.250v 4,5ghz. With load line calibration turned off.

8GB VRAM is a goyim-swindling meme, rite?

>>60324848
Wendell and he tested it on Taichi.

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Motherboard
>MSI X99A Raider LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor
>Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W BX80648I75930K Desktop Processor

Ram
>CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model CMK128GX4M8A2666C16

GFX Card
>EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12G-P4-3990-KR 12GB

>>60322157
>An i5-7500 trounces a 6-core (with HT, mind you) in Adobe CC suites and scales far better with faster memory frequencies than Ryzen can ever hope to achieve.

Source: your ass

>>60324859
they can run up to 125c and be ok. 60 isnt amazing but it is pretty good.
red doesnt mean danger, it means hot shit

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>>60324909
You may wish to rethink.

>>60321732
Is a 970 used for 150 euros a good offer? Compared to the RX 560 for example which will probably price similarly. (Although new)

>>60325160
You are correct but don't link that "source". It's complete bullshit.

>>60324909
the bait is bad and you should feel bad
although i lost it at the titan z holy shit

I originally ocverclocked to 4.4ghz with the software from my mobo. But vcore was a little too high (1.369v) and I wanted to get better voltages so I messed with ocing through bios, but that lowered my speed to 4.2 but greatly lowered my voltage to 1.167v. I wanted to push for 4.5 but it kept crashing my bios. So then I set it back to 4.4 using theme software that came with my motherboard and now my computer crashes at the bios screen. Someone please help.

For average consumer that plays games on their PC and programs too but nothing really demanding.

2d nand TLC or 3d nand TLC? Mushink has a cheap 480gb 2d nand ssd online for 130 euros while crucial has a 525gb 3d nand TLC for 146 euros.

>>60325276
Get the MX300 if that's what the Crucial one is.

>>60325229
Never mind i used clear cmos to reset the bios

>>60322157
>The i3 is objectively the best gaming CPU for any game

No, it's not the best CPU in terms of anything. It's not the fastest consumer CPU from Intel, that's the i7-7700K. And it offers really poor value compared to the G4560. If you're unable to do the basic math required to understand this then you should go learn some math or shut up.

The very simple reason I agree with OP on this is that the G4560 really does offer great value for your money. The step up (local prices, anyway) from that to a i3 is double the price of a G4560. Be honest and think about it, is a i3 twice as good as a G4560? If you actually believe that then please go ahead and tell us all about how the cheapest i3 is twice as fast and gives you twice as many FPS as a G4560. And if you don't then you should realize that the value for your money when buying a G4560 is excellent while the value dollar for dollar of a i3 is as bad as it gets. This is why it is totally fair to recommend skipping the i3 and the i5 for that matter, if you want a cheap CPU then it's obvious that you should get the G4560 and if you're not on a budget then you're getting more value for your money by going to something like the R5 1600.

And nobody cares if something takes 0.0014 or 0.0016 seconds in Adobe CC, not even a little. How long it takes to encode a x265 video or compress a 8GB large folder matters because those are the actually CPU-intensive tasks that take more than a millisecond.

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>>60322255
> tell intel shills you'll shill for them if they give you a good intel rig
> sell intel rig
> buy ryzen rig
congratulations you now have a fee high-end computer

>>60325375
Is she included xd

>>60325375
why ryzen

>>60325392
fuck off, she's my gf, buddy

>>60325375
Keep faster Intel rig. Win.

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Guys, I only build PCs once every 5/6 years so I don't get it, why is RAM so expensive now? I remember they were like, the cheapest possible parts in a computer.

I was considering building a new PC with Ryzen5 1600 + GTX 1060, but I preferably need 16gb of ram, and the cheapest DDR4 I found cost 140€. This feels disgustingly expensive to me.

Should I buy just one 8gb bar and wait for the prices to go down?

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Pls don't bully me, I wanna know if I'm messing up this CPU+GPU combination

>>60325450
You were already responded to. fuck off.

>>60325517
I got bullies replies, like yours..

>>60325526
The bully replies were correct. That build is complete garbage and even worse value.

>>60325428
they might go down next year

>>60325450
Are you emu or kiwi? If so then it's kinda good.

At the Time I only had AIDA64 and HWmonitor up. Is it normal for my temps to fluctuate like this?

In order to prevent things not working properly and save myself time when installing a new mobo/cpu, I can just throw in a Windows installation file after putting the components in and just install Windows over my old Windows version right?

That should update all the drivers and whatnot

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>>60325620
forgot gif

>>60325450
If you still want a decent processor get a 6600k it's a better value than the 6700k. I would also recommend a 570 instead of the 1060 it's cheaper and they have similar performance

>>60325450
Cpu is too powerful for the gpu unless you want to upgrade to a 1080 I would downgrade on that

>>60325735
Or you could get an r5 and a different mobo

So tell me /pcbg/
How's the ryzen DDR4 support coming along?
Got the 1700 ,AsRock b350m amd DDR4 3000 on the mail, will arrive by next week.

Os the bios still shit or will it be a smooth ride?

>>60325563
Thanks.
I can't wait that long so it's time to spread it wide.

>>60325809
fine, just update the bios.

>>60325809
Should be smooth it still needs some optimization but with 3000mhz ram it should be good until then

how do i move my operating system from my 1tb hdd to a new ssd without having to delete a bunch of shit?

t. tech illiterate

OK I am getting a new machine for general purpose usage and gaming. I am not looking to play the latest and most demanding games ( I don't play FPS in general) @ max/high settings.

Should I get ryzen or intel?

no meme plz

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>>60322056
pls

>>60325856
Control+c or use the ssd transfer kit. Here is one that would work for it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011M8YACM/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494501877&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ssd+transfer+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=51bXzhXZynL&ref=plSrch

Plug it into the ssd and the into a usb 3.0 port and it will copy files from your c drive to it

>>60325897
Post build plz need to know what else is in it to make a good decision

>>60325856
if they are the same volume, use clonezilla.

>>60325735
Thanks for the useful reply

>>60325882
Ryzen it isn't as good for gaming but you said you wont be using it for the latest games. It is better than intel for general use purposes

card        passmark     TDW    RAM    $/perf    price
GTX760    4952    170W    4GB        12.38    installed
RX460    4299    75W        4GB        47.78    $90
RX470    7341    120W    8GB        40.79    $180
RX480    8049    150W    8GB        40.25    $200
RX560    delayed until ????
RX570    6687*    150W    8GB        37.15    $180
RX580    7733*    185W    8GB        38.67    $200

* = insufficient sample size

What is the 560 going to look like? Should I just buy a 470 or wait and see the 560? the 570 and 580 benchmarks don't look promising... higher clocks, bigger power drain, LESS performance

>>60321732
>RX480(if cheap & not blower)

what does this mean?

>>60325922
If you're going for a budget card get the 1060 msi has decent decent clock speeds. If you want good value get a 1070
1060 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JVWrxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-gaming-x-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-6g

1070 -
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fPFXsY/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1070-o8g

Imo the 560 isn't worth waiting for. it probably will be cheep but that's all it probably will have going for it

why is mitx and matx more expensive in Australia?

>>60325903
is there no way to do this through the sata connections in the pc?

>>60325913
ssd is half the size of the drive my os is installed on

>>60325964
I'm only looking at AMD cards since driver updates and hardware video encoding aren't locked behind installing spyware

>>60325975
Unless you want to hook up the ssd and do a manual file transfer. It's just easier this way. I recommend it because you said you were tech illiterate. Here is a good guide if you wont want to get the cable
http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows

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How is this looking so far? Trying to get an all around decent machine under 1000€ in spurdoland.

>>60326033
Shitty, but not nearly comparable to mandatory online activation. My AV can block drivebys while allowing the drivers... I can't control what a binary blob phones home with, I have to accept the whole thing or accept a half-working card

>>60326104
Is that before tax. I have a similar build with better components right around 1000 usd

>>60326130
It's after tax (24%).

>>60326156
I would try to get faster ram since ryzen scales with it

>>60325937
the type of cooling fan.
Ones that blow out the slot are loud and don't cool as well.

>>60326104
>2133MHz RAM
>cheap corsair PSU
Why don't you just get a 1600 and overclock it instead of skimping on everything else?

alright fellas, got an old beast here I'd like to upgrade in a few weeks/months
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sf6zxY
>tv tuner, nic, fiber card as well take note
what would be best to upgrade? I know the cpu is getting older but it does everything i need, although it is limiting me in some of the games I'd like to play, but I already know I'm upgrading to a 4k monitor this summer for work related stuff
>things im already planning on
fury x would have to be ghetto rigged in the case, my dumb ass didnt measure and it doesnt fit with the cryorig in there, got a buyer lined up, will be switching to 980ti in 3-4 weeks
gonna drop the 1tb drive and slap another 512gb ssd in there, to let me fit a longer psu (info below). most of what is on there anyway is just games and media, most of that can be moved to the NAS as a quicker access than re downloading, and that'll work fine
psu situation is a mess. had a nice 1250w seasonic before switching cases, a psu in another rig died and i had to swap my personal one out for that, using a backup 450w and a 480 now. Would like to go back to a nice psu and higher wattage (750 or higher for future proofing, never know when the next 290x is gonna drop), but idk what is the go to these days. Only thing is it has to be from newegg, got the credit from the RMA there, dont wanna spend more than 150. Any suggestions?
tl;dr
switching hdd for ssd, need to keep the other 3 pcie cards, need new psu (150 and under, preferably 750w and up gold), not sure what to upgrade other than all that

>>60326191
>the type of cooling fan.

how many types are there? All I know are the ones that blow down into the card and out the back.

>>60326205
thats it. blower style has 2 applications where it wins, where the card would otherwise be starved for air and servers
aftermarket (where the card blows down on to the card) win every other time

>>60325964
What would you recommend instead of a 560 for a budget build then ? The 1060 is too expensive honestly. I also thought about buying a used gtx 970.

>>60326191
I just went with the minimum wattage, what should I look for in a good PSU? Something wrong with Corsair?

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>>60326111
>I can't control what a binary blob phones home with

>>60325104

Oh okay, well I did disable stock LLC which was set at level 8 and extreme VRM settings (changed it to optimized). and now it's about 50.

>>60326229

I am super confused by this post.

>>60326298
if it blows out the back and you're not
running a server
working in a retarded circa 2004 htpc case
you've fucked up

>>60326003
Ok you could wait for Vega but that will probably be at the end of the maybe the start of q3 or q4
Otherwise the 580 is a pretty good value

Here is one that is good for over clocking
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6ZmxFT/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gaming-x-video-card-rx-580-gaming-x-8g

Userbenchmark PC Build Comparison
Baseline Bench: Game 105%, Desk 122%, Work 75%

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1070
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (2016)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB
MBD: Asus PRIME Z270-A
Total: ~ $ 1200

As far as I understand Z270 is a necessity for Kabylake CPUs. I'm not sure about the frequency of the ram though, would 2400 MHz be enough?

>>60326238
The 1050ti is very inexpensive but most of the time you will be getting sub 60fps on high-ultra some times even on medium

what is the best value medium capacity ssd (~500gb) for under $150, preferably closer to $100/120? it will be used for storing games and windows so it doesn't have to be blisteringly fast just faster than the shitty hard drive i have now.

>>60326337
Wouldn't recommend storing games on ssd it will make the load faster but wont really run much faster but here is a decent one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rcRFf7/western-digital-blue-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds500g1b0a

>>60326238
>>60326335
the 1050 ti is good for 1080p60 in 9/10 games when settings are reduced to the mediums/highs but there will be the odd game like witcher 3 which will kill the gpu even at low settings. for the most part it's fine though.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ArT1S/search?query=1050+ti

I'm having a dillemma here pcbg. Building a new rig and i need good sound card quality for hd 559 headphones and a decent mic i'm getting, so i'm stuck between either buying Creative Sound Blaster Z internal sound card or getting a x370 mobo with good onboard soundcard. I don't need any of the other features of x370 mobos since b350 ones overclock nicely. The creative sound card costs 62euros here. Is Creative Sound Blaster Z a good sound card for that money? Should i just get a x370 mobo with good onboard sound card? Which one should i get then?

>>60326357
so shall i get get a low capacity ssd like a 120gb for windows only?

>>60326362
>>60326335

Then I'll still wait for the RX 560 though. I mean I only play blizzshit games but playing them on high would be good.

>>60326393
That's what I use I store all my games on a 3tb hdd and OS on one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GPFXsY/kingston-ssdnow-uv400-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-suv400s37120g
Boot time is 10.4 seconds last time I checked. I use a 5400rpm hdd and games load decently quickly. You could get that ssd and this hdd
For the same price you would be spending on the 500gb ssd alone
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/44Gj4D/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm010

>>60326405
Unless you really want a AMD card you can get a good 1050ti for under 120 usd

Morning guys. I come here with a question.
I have a core i5 2400 with a Zotak gtx960 Amp 4gb. I mostly use it for Tf2, Dota 2, and some other light games... But I was thinking about buying something a little bit newer (there's nothing wrong with this build for me, but is very old) Should I change it for a ryzen 1400 or a 1600? I'm still ok with this pc? I the case that I go for the ryzen and a mobo (plus ram) Should I keep too the 960?

>>60326376
dont get a sound card, get a usb dac, and then eventually get an external amp
there's a ton of reasons why but even just the usb dac will be much better than any internal solution, seriously

>>60326467
Forgot link if you want to look
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cm38TW/evga-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-sc-gaming-acx-20-video-card-04g-p4-6253-kr

>>60326471
>im still ok with this pc
i think you answered your own question
if it does what you need no point in upgrading, when it no longer meets your needs upgrade to the best performance you can get at your price point at that time or over a short period of time through sales, future proofing is a meme
dont be a consumerist whore

>>60326474
if it is about convenience i don't realy care, how is a usb dac any better? i don't think i need an amp for 50ohm headphons.

>>60326446
ok thanks

>>60326471
960 is good for tf2 and dota a new processor and mobo would be best for you. 1600 is a very good processor but if you can get the 1400 on sale I would go for that. Upgrading this two parts would probably do your pc wonders

>>60326499
it isn't about convenience, its about quality, interference, signal strength, etc.
you probably dont need an amp for 50ohm, but the driving capability will be better and the power delivery wont have interference and will be cleaner. dac is gonna do you more good here though, the amp would just be the "finishing piece" so to speak
/hpg/ might be able to help with a dac or give you more info. but internal sound cards in 2017 are kinda a waste of money

>>60326490
>no point in upgrading
What did he mean by this

>>60326518
>>60326471
if you're gonna upgrade go with the 1500x over the 1400. double the cache and the processor should be a touch nicer and better for a lot longer, my 2 cents. realistically there's no reason the 1600 shouldnt last another 5 though, so that would be my go to pick if you just want to upgrade and forget.
like i said above though, if it aint broke dont fix it

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is the 1070 overkill for 1080p/144fps gaming?
i'm thinking about getting pic related

>>60326545
>>60326518
>if you're gonna upgrade go with the 1500x over the 1400.
Would agree missed that when I was looking

>>60326490
I'm not my man, I buyed this build new. before the i5, I got a gigabyte mobo with a i3 2120 and a Ati 6750. And worked awesome for like 4 years, but then I buyed this i5 and the 960
But, then again, you are right.

>>60326528
I'll look into that. I can't loose anything, right?
I mean, if I go for a ryzen 1600 the performance just can go up in vidya?

>>60326567
The 1070 is an amazing value and will last you a very long time.
He is another option couldn't find the specific card I your pic so you will have to compare the.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fPFXsY/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1070-o8g

>>60326332
anybody? ;_;

>>60326567
1060 6gb/rx 580 can run Overwatch at 144hz, depends on what you'll be playing. But 1070 would be a safe-bet

>>60326467
More expensive in the German caliphate.

https://geizhals.de/kfa-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-oc-50iqh8dsn8ok-a1527722.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

Cheapest one I can find right now.

>>60326264
cheap corsair's are unreliable. And not modular at all is just a mess and a pain.
400-550w is fine.

>>60326625
1070 value isn't that great. 35% better than the RX570 for double the price.

>>60326332
2400mhz ram is decent enough but if you don't mind spending the extra money 3000mhz will be good for a long time

>>60326627
We're only commenting on ryzen builds for the time being. Jk that looks good if you aren't overclocking otherwise I would suggest hardier mobo

>>60326332
>$1200 for 4 threads
>not reading the OP
yeah waste the money pls. I want to see your buyer's remorse soon.

>>60326104
I would suggest you to downgrade for r5 1600 (you can oc it later to 1600x levels), drop the cpu cooler and get faster ram and 8 gig gpu with the leftovers. Also the psu looks dodgy imo.

>>60326718
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3885vs3915
I based my decision off this, 16 threads don't look all that better really
What am I gonna do with that many threads anyway, quantum computations?

>>60326649
I would argue the 1070 is the best mid-high end card. That 35% is the difference between 1080p and 1440p. It depends on what you use it for. If you are gaming in 1080p get the 570 or 580. If you want to game is 1440p get the 1070.
Benchmark so you can look
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-RX-570/3609vs3924

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>>60321732
>tfw not even 32gb ram is enough

Don't let anyone fool you

Best HDD to buy? I'm starting to collect movies and music etc. Right now I'm just about finished with 1.5tb between my SSDs and 1tb HDD. What good, fast HDD should I buy? I want something reliable and probably 2tb (does it get unreasonably expensive to get up to 4-5, and is it cheaper to buy more small drives?)

>>60326774
I'd argue it's the worst because it doesn't pair up well with a given resolution/frequency except for specific games.

>>60326796
in many cases the higher density drives offer a better price/1tb
best price/tb is found on 3tb as of now iirc. i would recommend taking a look at the hgst nas drives, just as fast as desktop drives, reliable, pretty cheap too
heads up though there arent any 3tb nas drives, so look at deskstar for those

if all i want to do is play the witcher 3 at 4k is a 1080ti the ticket?

>>60326266
>add firewall rule
>try to run shadowplay
>demands login
>error: login failed, check your internet connection to use Geforce Experience

Like I said... it's all or nothing. I can't say "just log in without sending any other data" without reverse engineering shit.

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>>60326649
>>60326166
>>60326760
Switched to faster RAM, better PSU and found a better SSD deal. As for the processor I really don't wanna hassle with OC'ing and I feel like I can go over budget for that factor. But will it be hindered by the fact that I'm going for only 2x4gb RAM? Or does only the speed matter?

>>60326376
sound cards are a scam

>>60326499
It converts the signal from digital to analog which triggers a placebo effect in audiphiles. DACs are a scam.

>>60326939
>cheap corsair PSU still
Is that the only brand in your country or something? Go with it I guess.

>2x4gb RAM? Or does only the speed matter?
capacity only matters when you run out.

You don't have to get DDR4 3200. 2666 is fine.

>>60327081
>Is that the only brand in your country or something?

Pretty much, ~80% of all the available PSU's are Corsair.

>>60327255
>file deleted
but why

how accurate hwmonitor about clocks?

just installed 1600x system on gaming 5 board/LPX RAM 3200
apparently it runs at 4092Mhz out of box on all cores for me, nh-d15 cooler

XFR not a meme?

>>60322346
Don't ever buy MSI boards
Those things are firecrackers

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>>60327460
forgot the pic

>>60325213
Avoid because of 3.5GB
Get a R9 290 or RX470

>>60325450
Shitty quad core CPU
1TB is nowhere near enough
Why would anyone buy a 1060 over the 580?
Firecracker PSU

>>60327487
damn nigga thats some hot shit on your voltage
>1.5v xfr stock
that's a beastly chip if the temps are accurate, which i have no reason to think they arent. shame you arent putting it under ln2, chips with that kind of stock voltage go the distance under that kind of cooling

>>60326104
Get a 1600 non x
Drop the cooler
Don't get a MSI board
Get a better PSU, the corsair VS sucks ass
Get faster RAM
Avoid kingston SSD

>>60326939
Looks fine, except for the board
Get a gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 or anything that isnt Massive Shit International

>>60327523
that's auto voltage on gigabyte board, stock settings for now, I don't think I even need to change anything with these clocks except RAM speed

what's the usual voltage?

>>60327523
Those 1.5V are likely because of loadline calibration
Actual voltages are much lower

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>>60327555
it flows around up to 1.45 in CPUz

>>60327547
near 1.3x if im not mistaken. most people arent going past 1.44. hey if it aint broke dont fix it
>>60327555
he's at stock he said, not sure if he has llc enabled. even then thats high as fuck for stock with llc

>>60327437
Turns out it wasn't compatible. Found a Seasonic twin of the Corsair one though.

Guys I'm on a tight budget right now and I can afford rx570 with single fan which is half the price of one with two fans. Do I just get an extra cooler in my Case for my GPU(which will cost less than a hundred dollars if i try buying a two fan 570) or do I save up for the two fan one? What's the diference?

Why is ryzen so bad in arma? You keep saying that it is optimized and stuff, but 7700k gives almost double the fps with only 12% higher clock speed.
I want to pick ryzen but it runs the stuff I like so bad.

>>60327586
I thought it's normal due to XFR, in CPUz voltage is as low as 1.2 and goes up to 1.464

would be a shame to bake whole thing due to incompetence

>>60327611
Dual fans will have slightly better performance, moreover when overclocked. Although if you don't plan on overclocking and don't mind a noisy rig then that's fine.

The difference is usually in the clock speeds.

>>60327470
What about the MSI RX 570, is it a liability?

This was /g/ and me building a PC in early 2012

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8ZT7h

And this is me and /g/ building a PC in the last week.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/78HMxY

For note, the 680 died and was replaced by a 970.

While I wait for Vega for that freesync goodness.

Are there any good mATX boards for Ryzen yet?

>>60327586
It is normal
Setting LLC to auto made it report 1.51V, instead of the 1.25V I set

Hey gang, I'm building my first PC and I'm using a Ryzen 5 1500 and a tomahawk b350.

When trying to start the computer everything goes on except nothing happens on the monitor, and the CPU debug led comes on.

I was reading about someone with the same problem who said there BIOs was outdated and they had to send the mobo into a service center (fuck doing that). I tried reseating the cpu and that didn't work. Plz help

What's a good Z77 motherboard? I fucked up and impulse bought a 2700k to replace my old 860k, and don't know where to search

>>60327806
do you know if 1600x has temp offset on gigabyte boards? just seen 79C
59C makes sense, 79C is a bit too high?

>>60327813
Should have bought Intel and not have those problems. It's your fault for falling for the memes

>>60327698
Their cards are ok, but I still don't recommend them
But their boards are complete shit

>>60327813
Guess you've convinced everyone about MSI boards then.

>>60327813
it's definitely not the bios problem, just put 1600x in with old pre R5 BIOS

try installing only one RAM stick in different slots, it is also might be due to your GPU not being in legacy or UEFI mode can't remember which one

>>60327611
Never get single fan gpu unless you want to burn your entire village down.

>>60327878
I have a EVGA 1060 3gb GPU. I also tried booting it up without the GPU and I had the same problem. Will try re-positioning the RAM stick. Updates to come.

>>60327813
Tomahawk takes forever to hits BIOS.

Freaked me the fuck out. Still can't get the son of a bitch to do 3200 RAM even after their latest update either, only 2933.

where should I go about putting a thermal sensor on a vrm? would the side be fine? also, is superglue the best option there? I feel like duct tape is a bad idea

How do I choose motherboard for G4560? I know that I need B250, but there are so many of them.

>>60322169
Just use the stock cooler.

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Posting this from the last thread. Here's my build. I've already started purchasing parts but if anyone has any other comments/suggestions I'm all for it. Ryzen 5 1600 build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dn8gxY

>>60327989
ditch the gigabyte, get something else. they have the worst vrms on b350, period

>>60327989
Looks good to me

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>>60327909
Re-positioning the RAM did nothing. Starting to get sad. Just gonna have 1000+ worth of junk sitting in my room

Are you supposed to have to buy special ryzen RAM or is XMP shit supposed to work at its rated speeds and latencies?

>>60328175
just buy LPX

>>60328039
I'm getting kinda mixed messages here, if neither MSI or Gigabyte is good, is ASUS the only solution?

>>60328201
I already own RAM and am wondering for the future when I upgrade from skylake.

>>60328108
did you try removing battery for 5 minutes and clearing CMOS?

>>60328210
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI
gigabyte a shit, msi a shit on x370, not as shit on b350
i would go asrock desu famalam

>>60328230
except for ryzen any VRM will work, it's not even close to be power limited on OC

>>60328215
will work, not at rated speed this week, next week will work as intended due to AGESA update

>>60328210
gigabyte is good if you are afraid of breaking BIOS on update

>>60328230
He didn't go over the higher end Gigabyte models, though. There are 5 and 6 phase VRM ones. Gaming 5, for example.

>>60328039
Seems like all the ~$100 ranged 350 boards are shit based on reviews from a few websites, should I put out extra cash for a $150-200 ranged board? It would bring my build total to around $900

>Nvidia GPU + Ryzen has issues in some specific games atm (Civ6, RoTR, Rocket League)
What

>>60328294
The gigabyte AX370 gaming 5 is pretty good
LEDs are useless, but its a decent board

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Who makes the best cases? I don't wanna get meme'd on I just sleek black box.

>>60328274
>what is b350
>what is the gaming 5
>what is the title of the video
>>60328266
this is true and mentioned, still it never hurts to have a board that will function with the load as low as possible, more headroom for zen+ as well as less chance of failure, less heat, cleaner power, etc. honestly if we're going with that argument then msi is the golden child since the vrm for b350 are ahead of competitors and even then the ram compatability is the best
>>60328294
i wouldn't, especially not with the 1600. bear in mind though whatever you do if you do it right and smart you wont need another motherboard for another 2-3 cpu generations, even if amd goes full bulldozer again and drops some 125w monster

>>60328566
>sleek black box
fractal design define series
they're the sleek black box masters

>>60328566
No one. Every case is shit.
Find the one that is the least shit to you.

>>60328566
fractal, lian li, NZXT

>>60327137
>Pretty much, ~80% of all the available PSU's are Corsair.
Stop browsing that shitty store.
Jimms.fi has better selection and you don't get jewed on prices as much as in verkkokauppa.

>>60328615
Yeah, I noticed later on. I put up a price comparison in Excel and Jimm is whooping 60€ cheaper in my case.

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>>60321732


so I just upgraded to Win10 after Win7 failed to boot (bitlocker fucked up, shop I went to fucked it up more).

besides all that

what is this?

>>60328316
Ryzen has great tastes and don't want you to play garbage games
You should be grateful

>>60327989
Make sure the board supports >65W CPUs

>>60327932
Check for features you want, like number and type of USB ports, m.2, video out, form factor, etc

>>60327896
Not really true. Gfx cards this gen aren't housefires

>>60327813
No such thing as r5 1500

Also plug the monitor cable into the graphics card, retard

>>60328725
That's the NorthBridge, AM3+ still had those

>>60327989
Woah, the rig I'm building has the same cpu and board
So what are you going to do if the gigabyte isn't good?

>r5 1600
>MSI b350 tomahawk
>2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz
>$405 after combo deal + cash back
Seems like a steal, or is the tomahawk too shit?

I want a RX 570 and heard Sapphire is the go to brand for AMD cards, is the Pulse ITX version worth getting or would it run hotter because of the smaller size/less fans than the regular size one? My case is a mATX case so a regular sized one would fit but the ITX model is cheaper.

Basically is the ITX's card heat fine or would a full size be less hot?

>>60328734
>Make sure the board supports >65W CPUs
What do you mean by this?

>>60328766


what does it do?

>>60328734
>Check for features you want, like number and type of USB ports, m.2, video out, form factor, etc
There are three motherboards I'm looking at:
MSI B250M PRO-VD
GIGABYTE GA-B250M-D3H
ASRock B250 Pro4

>>60328798
full size will be less hot, pulse is a little loud jsuk nothing crazy though
smaller cooler of same design will always be hotter

Are hybrid hard drive a meme? Do they have the same write cycle problems as real SSDs?
Thinking of getting the FireCuda 1TB 3.5"

>>60328809
It connects the CPU to the memory and primary PCIe ports

>>60328841


Why do AM3+ boards do that and others dont?

>>60328779
If the Mortar, which is the mATX version of the Tomahawk, is something to go by: the board is perfectly fine. Only problem is the long POST times that are being slowly fixed with every BIOS updates. Memory compatibility is good and OC'ing is straightforward: puch in the clock speed and the voltage and you're good to go (so no offset modes)

If my i5 4570 scores almost as much as a i5 7400 in synthetic benchmarks, would it be useless to upgrade to it?

I'm not comparing it to ryzrn because amd is not an option for me and I'm always on a budget.

RX 480 or the RX 580?

I can't decide.

>>60328767
well right now that mobo is sold out on all sites with no indication of when it will be back. so I might have to just buy something else. but a lot of these mobos arent doing so well with quality

>>60328584
Not him (or any of them) but in the end is the Gigabyte here >>60327989 still okay? I do plan to overclock, but not over 4Ghz, I'm just aiming for 3.8Ghz at best on the R5 1600

>>60327989
me again. what about the Asus X370-pro mobo for $160? anyone have any experience with that?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132964

>>60328734
Pluged monitor cable into the graphics card nothing happened.
>>60328224
Cleared the CMOS nothing happened

Time to junk this thing?

good deal?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130894

Where should I go to get help for PC monitors?
I literally don't know where to start, I don't even know what kind of resolution is considered mid range today, or is 4K affordable now. Also Gsync sound like a big deal

Poorfag here. What are some good stores to go through their electronic recycling to strip parts?

I need a LGA1150 CPU cooler and motherboard but I'm not paying $100 for an outdated new one.

>>60329088


>still buying from oldegg

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>>60328862
It's not that others did not. It's just that in the recent years most of the northbridge functions have been moved to the CPU. Pic related, It's how things used to be before. Chipsets nowadays are glorified port multipliers, especially on AM4 since the ITX chipsets are pretty much only there to give security features and to allow overclocking.

>>60328926
Absolutely no reason to get a 480
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-AMD-RX-480/3923vs3634
More expensive and less powerful

>>60329250
Gsync is for nvidia cards freesync is for amd
Here is a guide to find what you're looking for
https://www.cnet.com/topics/monitors/buying-guide/

I'm looking for an entry level workstation PC for video editing, photography, music production, programming and some moderate gayming at around $800 or less, does this look reasonable? I'm going to get a 1440p monitor but I'm not too concerned about needing to max out everything, I can drop down to 1080p.

I already have the 500GB SSD and the XFX RX480 regularly goes on sale for 175 GBP here in Sweden while the cheapest 570 starts at £220. I'm also unsure on what mATX case to get that isn't outrageously expensive, what do you people recommend?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7Z73XH

>>60329351
Thanks.

stooopeed question

Will an AMD gpu work on an intel mobo?

>>60329367
I'm building the same kind of PC too. Are you serious with this one 8gb ram?
Video editing needs a lot of ram. Unless you render somewhere else and even then..
CUDA acceleration is also a huge plus for editing with Premiere so that AMD graphic card can fuck off. As far as I know, openAL acceleration for Premiere isn't anywhere near as good as CUDA on Nvidia GPUs.

Unless you're not really serious about editing, this doesn't sound optimal at all.
I got the same CPU and motherboard though.

>>60329387
Yes.
Nvidia GPU will also work on a AMD motherboard. There are no forced limits in place.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2fBnqk
I just want to play some new fps and old rts games on a 3440x1440 monitor, and really minimal photo editing, and i dont want it to be loud. Im not a rich man but this seems good enough, about 1200-1300 budget

Should i get 6700k over the 7700k? prices are around the same. But alot of reports of 7700k overheating.

>>60328926
580, unless the 480 is noticeably cheaper

>>60329515
1600 or 1600x
No reason to get an i7 at the moment

>>60329514
Forgot to mention that i do want to oc the cpu, aiming for 4.2 to 4.4ghz

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Does anyone have an RX 580 aarus? Could you take a picture of it with a ruler?
Really want to know how long it is without the fan shroud.

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>>60322157
>The i7-7700K is the best value to performance CPU on the market

No. The only reason for a 7700K is if you strictly only play videogames on your computer. And at low resolutions. And even that is debatable. If that's all you do, go ahead. It's there recommended on the OP.

For any other use case a Ryzen 5 is much better.

>>60329501
Nah, I'm just a hobbyist video editor. I've been cruising by with my gaymen PC I built in 2013 with 8 GB RAM for editing for now but I'll upgrade to 16 GB when my budget allows for it. And the 1060 is so much more expensive than the 480 here that it's not worth the benefit I'll get in editing since my livelihood doesn't depend on it.

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>>60322157
>especially when overclocked
He doesn't know.

Can you overclock a 1600 to 4.0 on a B350 board or is that limited to x370 chipsets?

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On an AM4 board, how can someone tell which USB 3.0 ports are connected directly to the CPU and which are connected to the Chipset? Is an application that will tell me that, like the Windows Device Manager?

Some manufacturers list it on the specs but Asrock doesn't, for example in the Taichi.

Instructions told me to plug the 4+4 pin eps12v in the mobo and psu but i cant find the cable, which one is it? already plugged in the 2 small cables into the psu that should supply the mobo.

>>60329579
You know the full length, just calculate how much percent of the length the card is without shroud, then you can estimate its actual length with that.

>>60329692
Is it measrued at the very far part? Or where it's inserted into the slot?
There's also camera distortion, as it's not orthographic view.

>>60329510


what about an intel CPU on an amd mobo?

>>60329771
No, mobos are specific to their amd/intel alignment. You won't even be able to try, because all intel are LGA rather than PGA like amd.

First time PC builder here. Is it normal for a GPU to run at 60 C without the fans turning on? I never get above 60 C when I'm playing games. Running a 1050 Ti.

>>60329823
It's usually 60C that they turn on, if the card has such a "technology".

>DDR4 2400 MHz and higher memory module will only run at maximum of DDR4 2400Mhz due to AMD® chipset limitation when using 7 th Gen A series CPU

great

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Any cheap 4k monitor?

At least 32 inches, preferably 40".

Used mainly for productivity and movies.

Also, minimun gpu?

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Any leads on good and beautiful SFF cases?
It still need to fit a 1060 and the Ryzen stock Wraith Spire.
I wanted this one but the red version isn't available anywhere, fuck.
I'm tired of black boxes.

>>60327813
I'm this guy. Fixed the CPU issue but now I have another problem.

The GPU fan starts to go for 10ish seconds and then stops, and the GPU LED comes on. It's a GTX 1060 with a tomahawk b350. Please help. Sorry for bothering you /g/

Fractal Design Celsius S24
or
Fractal Design Celsius S36
it's for my ryzen build, i'm going to buy either the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X

>>60329611
If you are going to buy a 480 you might as well get the 580. It is a much better card for pretty much the same price. Here is one I recommend
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q8cMnQ/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-4gb-gaming-4g-video-card-gv-rx580gaming-4gd

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Was going to build a computer for around $500.

Should I still bother building it myself, or is this the best option available for that price?

>>60330051
Where are you buying from looks like a scam to me. If you trust them it's a really good price you would just need to over clock the cpu

>>60330094
Woot isn't a scam.

The biggest downsides I can see are that the motherboard doesn't have many expansion options, and that it probably has a reference 480.

>>60330048
Please read my post before responding, if the 480 costs £175 and the 570 costs £220 then the 580 sure as shit isn't going to be any cheaper. The 580 starts at £235.

>>60330129
Sorry didn't know you were from the UK in the US the card I linked it 198.

>>60330128
That's a problem you're going to have with almost all prepare pc's. Just be careful when OCing the fans on it might not be too good

Can anyone tell me or point me in the directions of some screws that will screw in Corsair SP120 fans please or tell me what size screws I would need please

>>60329959
Mod a raijintek metis.

>>60330094
That cpu can't overclock, and pretty sure the mobo can't either.

>>60330270
You can change the bclck on the 6400

>>60330289
I get what he means. It might be locked some ((((companies)))) do that so you have to buy another when you want to upgrade

dumb question, if the cpu comes with a stock cooler I dont need to buy thermal paste?

>>60330355
Well, i know i5-6400 with a bios update lets you change the bclock, but if the mobo doesnt support it then he can spend another 80-100 bucks to get a z270 or z170 one that does. Might be wrong though, if its possible then 500 wouldbe a great price for the system.

>>60330396
your choice

>>60330396
Most include a lil pre applied thermal pad on the cooler. Its usually low grsde shitty paste but the difference will be 1-3° at the most.

>live in chicago
>have all the parts in checkout cart on amazon
>ok anon time to calculate tax
>11%
>$65 taxes

fuck this city

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Rate my meme build

6700k
GTX1080
Corsair LED DDR4 3000 2x8gb
Asus Maximus viii hero (with aura)
H115i liquid cooler
EVGA G2 650w gold
Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5

Got fucked by a monitor company. Day after I recieved it from newegg, I talked to their support about a dead pixel and they told me to send it in. Weeks later I get it back and it still has the same problem. I talked to two support peeps and they basically BS and said there is no problem. I literally asked the first time if I should send it in for a dead pixel. Then they do a bunch of shit about making me take pictures of the screen. I say I only have a low res camera and they say they need a picture of the whole screen, 1080p. then they say the shape of the dead pixel isn't right (shitty camera) and there is no problem.

How should I go about compiling the chat logs etc to post around? Anyone can chat with me and go over things? Discord maybe?

>>60330626
pretty sure dead pixels are NEVER covered under most warranties bro. these companies find new ways to fuck you every year

>>60330651
The thing is I literally asked before sending it. Should I send it in over a dead pixel? Was told yes. I asked if they would fix it and if they couldn't fix it would I get a replacement, they said yes. I made it damn clear.

Then they basically withhold the new monitor from me for weeks during shipping/1 week of repair.

When I get it back dead pixel is the same. Support note says "Turned it on for 24 hours no trouble". Doesn't mention pixel.

The bullshit is that they lied and said they would fix it, then fuck me over later and insult me during the chat.

>>60330421
What kind of retard spends that money to overclock a shit CPU?

>>60330677
same person. The chat logs are pretty damning and it's a well known company

sHould I compile it into a big pic and spread around?

>>60330619
not enough memes. asus has a better rog mobo, 6950x is a thing isnt it? corsair 4200+ ram, 1100w platinum psu. cosmos 2 case

>>60330694
Yeah we probably can't do shit but it would probably be interesting to read

>>60330694
send it on twitter and reddit, dont put drama here though

>>60330740

I never said it was the memest. You could get pretty expensive with it.

>>60330693
How would you spend 600 on a pc?

>>60330768
>>60330745
Can either of you help me craft it? Like showing you a rough draft?

>>60330852
Post rough and I'll do it when I get home

>>60330880
Forgot to say I'll be home around 430

>>60330816
b250 mobo, g4560 cpu, 2400mhz 8gb ram, RX 580.

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>>60330816
>>60330914
Like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXmT7h

Point is to spend money on a cheap mobo and CPU now, so that you can later on upgrade it, and not lose too much money on it.

>>60330907
Do you have any contact info or discord? Should I post the rough in here?