What bullshit

>>60320555
There are far fewer capital 'D' Drivers, that is, people who enjoy their time behind the wheel, out there than there are people driving cars.

>>60320555
>Why would anyone want to give up complete control of their vehicles to the discretion of some fuckin pencil necked geeks who hate cars in the first place

convenience. Get in your car half-dressed in the morning, say "okay car, drive me to work", and finish buttoning your shirt and shaving at eating breakfast on your commute. Then after work you go out with some people. You get falling-down drunk, stumble to your car, and say "Okay car, drive me home" and fall asleep and wake up in your garage.

>>60320770
Wrong.

I wouldn't ever consider buying a manual transmission car, and pretty much everyone under 30 will agree with me here. Kids growing up today don't even know what manual transmissions are until they hear about it in driving class.

Cruise control is fucking great, not only does it let me drive lazy, it also helps gas mileage.

As for self driving? You bet your ass I would use it.

>>60320964
Look up one post, anon. That's a person who sees driving the commute as wasted time. There are many more where that anon comes from.

>>60320837
okay, but society shouldn't bend over backwards for a small minority of sloths. let the sloths pay for this out of their own pockets. sloth button enable.

>>60320555
Because someone will decide that they want their car making them money driving for Uber while they're sleeping.

As soon as that happens, it's game over. The robotos will rule the roads.

>>60321018
wasted time. look, if you really want to eat and dress yourself in public, read a book, go ride the subway. that's a driverless car. that's a socialist car nobody owns.

because driving, especially commuting, is boring as shit you buffoon. it's one of most mentally unstimulating activities left in the modern world. i'd much rather read a book or some shit while i reach point B from point A

>>60321027
You have it backwards anon. The majority of society welcomes an age where we can sloth, and businesses are VERY eager to create tools to allow this. You're the outlier. The only cars marketed at people who ENJOY driving are expensive luxury sports cars. Everything in society is shifting towards automation, not just cars.

>>60321041
if what you say is true, robots wont rule the world. remember, the bot is programmed by the pencil necked geek. what gives the pencil necked geek the right to control the publicly owned roads? how DARE you take the side of the pencil necked geek.

>>60321064
so like, how about them self driving motorcycles?

>>60321053
Public transportation doesn't stop at my door, nor at the doors of many other people. I'm a control freak, so I'm not in their target audience, but I know damned well that I'm also not in the majority.

>>60321079
the fact that 90+% of ordinary drivers are happy for him to handle something they see as a burden (driving) so that they don't have to. Driving is like doing laundry for most people, they'll be happy to have it automated.

>>60321106
if you're a control freak. go join a BSDM club in the gay village. hands off my steering wheel, fag.

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>>60320555
>Why would anyone want to give up complete control
the commie dream

>>60321109
if driving is like doing the laundry, so easy, why can't you even do it? protip: you're a fag.

>>60321102
You laugh, but that will actually happen someday, though probably much later than cars.

>>60320555
There are too many variables that can cause self-driving opticals to fail. Rain, fog, snow, poor road markings, glare, temporary construction zone markings (will it recognize a flagman's signal to stop?), opossum carcass, etc.

>>60321102
That'll happen eventually, although they'll more likely be trikes not bikes. The computer doesn't get tired, drunk, or distracted, so it will become safer than a human driver in time. Eventually, people who want to be in control of the vehicle will be seen as odd-balls best relegated to closed tracks, where they'll only hurt themselves.

In 1900 there was some fag like you blathering about how no real man would ever part with his horse.

>>60321150
It is the commie dream. Only an ignorant LOSER, who doesn't know the difference between imprisonment and freedom, would give up any inkling of control of their right to mobility to some car hating, socialist, pencil necked geek's software.

>>60321201
men drove horses, then men drove cars.
it was still men driving.
this is toatally different.

>>60321183
>distracted
computer doesn't become distracted. what a joke. DDoS, signal jamming, spoofed signals. sure thing buddy.

>>60320555
>i personally think...
thanks for sharing all those hot informed opinions

how do i unsubscribe to your blog?

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>>60321211
What about the disabled & elderly? Self driving cars will give those groups far more mobility & control over their lives than they have now.

>>60321201
the thing about real self driven cars, self as in you, not some socialist bot, is that they are not a horse.

>>60321155
There's all this talk about washing machines taking over. What a joke. I personally think that this will only become a feature of laundry, much like detergent, pegs to hang out to dry. Why would anyone want to give up complete control of their laundry to the discretion of some fuckin engineer who hates fashion in the first place, and designed metal to control you?

Washing machines. What a joke. Society will reject these things.

OP is some /pol/tarded /r/le_donald faggot that stumbled in here from reddit

>>60321270
you people who bitch about them are more obnoxious honestly

>>60321277
t. /pol/tard

>>60321240
yeah, what about disabled and elderly. is the entire population supposed to bend over backwards and give up their right to mobility to these geriatrics? no. this brings me back to my original point. robot cars are for losers, and won't be a defacto method of transport, but merely a feature on cars, similar to ... lol ... cruise control.

>>60321256
This man knows what he's talking about. Why, just the other day I heard some frazzled young man saying that electrical machines would be used for shaving purposes! Imagine such a thing. How could any man give up his straight razor and entrust his shaving to a machine? Society will reject this.

>>60321281
so what if i am you can't do shit about it but whine and cry

>>60321308
i can hide your posts. bye ;)

>>60321240
This is truth.
The elderly will be able to be driven to Walgreens and Tuesday Morning bowling without their turning signal blinking the whole way there.

the point is folks, don't give up an INKLING of your freedom of mobility so some engineers can prove how smart they are.

>>60321250
The roads, unless you're only driving on private ones, are already socialist institutions.
Also, the best thing about a well trained horse is that it pays attention to the task at hand as much or more than the rider. In fact, a good one will get you home from the bar even though you're too blitzed to take the reins.

>>60320555
Society will be explained what is good for it. Seen all these TV commercials with cars that magically stop just before the crash? This is all for your safety, and this is future.
And after all, why would you want to drive yourself? What are you, redneck or something?

>>60320837
>ok car take me home
>wake up in garage
>no uber or taxi fees
>no gaz

take my fucking money broooo

such advance
much technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZU8hgbPHVY

>>60321347
no gaz.
i hope you enjoy your insane electric bills.
oh, what's that? you heat your house and cook your food with electricity? sorry, that's going to cost a lot more now that we don't use gasoline.

>>60321373
>that's going to cost a lot more now that we don't use gasoline.
But he doesn't pay for gas, so he'll be able to afford any cost increase

>>60320555
Because driving is a chore you mongolid. Most people are not driving primo cars and showing off, they are transporting themselves.

>>60321373
>i hope you enjoy your insane electric bills.
Time to go solar energy.

>safer
>comfier
>more convenient
>faster
>eventually, cheaper
I can almost see everyone flipping you off when your shitty antiquated car causes a traffic jam or maybe they'll have a special road to prevent special people from causing them in the first place.

>>60321492
if they are transporting themselves as you claim, why do they need a pencil necked geek's hazardous, exploitable code to do it? if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>60321547
good luck getting enough amp hours with those mouse farts in the winter.

>>60321599
Because driving sucks and isn't fun, most people don't like driving

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If you cant see the future of Self Driving Cars, then you just do not understand where the world is going.

AI is coming and its coming fast, Self Driving Cars are going to be the norm sooner rather than later.

>>60320555
99.999% of car usage is for daily commute. You're just trying to get to your destination.
What's better:
Using your concentration to follow the meatbag in front of you, having to deal with all the other meatbags who don't know how to drive, who need five car lengths of space just not to crash into the guy in front of them. Meatbags who overcompensate on inputs causing traffic jams for no reason whatsoever (Guy taps on his brakes to go from 60 to 56, guy behind him goes from 60 to 52, behind him to 48, behind him to 44, behind him to 40... all the way until traffic grinds to a halt 30 or 40 cars behind -- a stoppage that propagates backwards and may take hours to work itself out).
Or:
Having your car in wireless communication with every other car on the road, planning out the most efficient overall traffic pattern. Being able to follow millimeters behind the car in front of you, gaining massive benefits from drafting. You get in your car, get to sit back and surf the 'net while it drives you to your destination faster, safer, and more efficiently than you ever could.

>>60321619
speak for yourself. you aren't most people.

>>60321643
just like those pilotless jet aircraft, right? oh wait, there's still pilots, even though jets can auto pilot.

Having all cars on the road be automated has its advantages. You could get rid of traffic lights and just have all cars fly through intersections continuously. A standard protocol could have all cars approaching talk to an automated traffic controller at the intersection, and the controller would tell the car exactly what speed the car should use to approach. City commute times would be a fraction of what they are now.

Also there's the advantage of not dealing with idiot drivers.

>>60321064
>expensive luxury sports cars
god I hate this meme. luxury sport was the worst thing to happen to either category - muh sport mode fucks up the smooth ride you expect from luxury cars, and muh luxury adds needless weight, cost, and complex controls to an otherwise excellent sports car. remember those fucking shit dial controls every manufacturer tried to include to control the fucking radio? there's your fucking luxury sport - trying to look pretty and in reality pissing everyone off for being needlessly complex

>>60321683
look at all the people in this thread would say they don't like driving lmao, i think you are the one who needs to speak for themselves

>>60321680
so you're telling me that the navigation of everyone should be dictated by the commands of a few? what are you, some kind of goyim?

>>60321683
I can fully see a day where somebody will be riding to their job in a self driving car, while at the same time playing a racing video game.
Even for people who like to drive, self driving vehicles are just going to become the norm.

>>60321680
>Being able to follow millimeters behind the car in front of you
that can already be done. professional drivers don't do that if the car in front breaks down. are you telling me that driverless cars are .... flawless?

>>60321693
That's more of a legal and insurance thing at this point than anything else. As soon as the airlines can operate without flight crews they're going to do it.

OP is a faggot, I would definitely pay for a self-driving car

>>60321680
if you want cars that follow closely, without having to worry about braking, go take the god damn subway, you fuckin' loser, and get off the god damn road.

>>60320555
>I personally think that this will only become a feature on cars, much like automatic transmissions, cruise control.
So a feature in basically all cars?

>Why would anyone want to give up complete control of their vehicles to the discretion of some fuckin pencil necked geeks who hate cars in the first place, and designed AI to control you?
Because your insurance company will give you discounts for it, followed by increasing the insurance costs for people who don't have a self driving car after a large portion of the population has them. Most people don't own cars because they enjoy driving and would happily start using a self driving car.

This is coming from someone who has yet to own a car with cruise control or even power windows/locks and considers a manual transmission to be a necessary feature due to the extra control it gives me.

>>60321373
My mom has a nissan leaf and solar panels and still doesn't use more electricity than she generates

>>60321744
oh, so self driving cars don't need insurance?

I would hate a self-driving car, think of how terrible it would be to follow the speed limit and make full stops at stop signs again...

also I honestly wouldn't know what to do with the time, I already use my car as a way to force myself out from in front of a screen sometimes.

>>60321680
>What's better:
Freedom

>>60321808
>also I honestly wouldn't know what to do with the time, I already use my car as a way to force myself out from in front of a screen sometimes.
Ever considered killing yourself on a motorcycle?

>>60321800
so basically, it wastes energy.

>>60321822
Actually yes, fairly seriously too, but I don't know where to start learning and right now don't have the chunks of uninterrupted time necessary to start

>>60320555
Sounds good for long car trips. The number of collisions should lower too. If a person falls asleep behind the wheel it isn't game over. I'm assuming the robots will follow the law and use their turning signals.

But yes, the driver should be able to take control at a moment's notice.

>>60321134
>Autism in action

>>60320555
I know this is bait, but...
What about the ability to have your car park itself and pick you up when there's no parking nearby?
>>60320770
You'll understand when you're old enough to get a job and have to commute every day

>>60321717
The needs of the many out way the needs of the few, especially yours.
If you're too poor to buy, or too unskilled to build, your own road, you'll have to deal with society's dictates on driving.

>>60321804
No, the insurance companies right now want someone to blame if a plane goes down, or a car gets in an accident.
Sort out a legal framework so they don't need that anymore and the airlines and trucking companies will start firing pilots and drivers left and right.

>>60321871
>You'll understand when you're old enough to get a job and have to commute every day
You really ought to read that post again. It says that far fewer people want to drive than have to drive.

>>60321885
do you know the difference between wants and needs?

>>60321897
well, if it's bots, we don't need people to blame. insurance companies can render the software and it's authors incompetent and uninsurable if a person dies. good riddance.

>>60321231
Your car doesn't have to be connected to the internet, IoT is a meme.

>out of touch with reality: OP forgot to take his meds edition

>tfw wagecucking and spending 50 minutes getting to and from work every single day

Might become a certified busrider again. At least I could read and sleep on the bus. Self driving cars are not a meme, I'd pay for one in a heartbeat. If I wanted muh driving feels I'd pick up a manual for track use only.

>>60321929
I don't think enjoying driving means you have to like ALL driving, or that you have to think that there aren't things that AI is better at.

>>60321005
>I wouldn't ever consider buying a manual transmission car, and pretty much everyone under 30 will agree with me here.
24 here, I've been driving manual for just about 8 years now. I would grab one if I ever wanted a new car.

>>60321936
Yes.
Do you understand that your wanting to be in the drivers seat is subordinate to society's need for efficient safe transportation? Society does.

I'd buy an autonomous car in a heart beat. I really hate driving but unfortunately its a necessity to get around if you don't live in a big city.

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>>60320555
>Why would anyone want to give up complete control of their computers to the discretion of some fuckin hook nosed kikes who hate computers in the first place, and designed Windows to control you?
What makes you think the same sort of thing won't happen again?

There's all this talk about cars taking over. What a joke. I personally think that this will only become a feature, much like sliced bread, pasteurized milk. Why would anyone want to give up complete control of their horses to the discretion of some pencil necked geeks who hate horses in the first place, and designed cars to control you?

Cars. What a joke. Society will reject these things.

>>60322117
Turn it off.

>>60320555
>flash infrared sensor suddenly at a light

>roadkill

>deploy radar jammer

>millions in damage and clogged roads

the things are a joke and need a ridiculous array of redundant sensors otherwise they are a liability

>>60321005
>>60322049
19 here, I've been driving a manual for as long as I've had a car and prefer it greatly over automatics, and will get cars with manuals for as long as they make them. It gives you more control and they're way simpler to work on for anyone who would.

>>60322049
>>60322415
>19 here, I've been driving a manual for as long as I've had a car
Wow, that long? Get back to me after driving in stop and go traffic for a decade.

Kids love manuals because they think it makes them some kind of fucking race car driver.

No one is impressed by your l33t stickshift skills

OP, why are you obsessed with explaining that the engineers behind self-driving cars have pencil-like necks?

>>60321316
>if i don't see it, it's not there
haHAAAAA

>>60322669
Because it's trying to incite people on /g/ with a ghetto Freddie Blassie imitaion.

The design is retarded. No one will buy it until it looks like something someone getting laid often would use.

>>60322572
I was just replying to a guy who said kids don't know that manual transmissions exist but basically every other kid my age drives a manual because they get hand-me-down econoboxes or because they buy the cheapest shitbox they can find and cheaper cars tend to be manual.

>>60320555
Normies will want to fuck while driving, it's like the mile high club but in a car

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>>60321211
t. sovereign citizen -tier mongoloid

>i use digital technology to bitch about the lack of control one has with digital technology
>i believe in the "lost right to mobility"! close your account at the dmv! lmao guize i actually drive my ancient fucking shitbox without a license, believe me
>am i being detained? am i free to go?
https://youtu.be/QCozh_vbYdM?t=8m45s

>>60322974
is your arm ok?

>itt manual niggers out of the woods

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>>60322572
>Get back to me after driving in stop and go traffic for a decade
>next year I will have been driving for a decade
Where the fuck has time went? Still driving a manual by the way.

>>60321702
not him, but I also enjoy driving
I am even ready to pay premium for a better experience. I wouldn't do so if I'm just transporting from A-B. Chinese Self-driving cars go ahead and take my money.

>>60322868
My girlfriend thinks it's the coolest thing ever and I don't think she's that unrepresentative of the 51% of the population that's female

>>60322991
Is this bait? This has to be bait right?

let the normie shit drivers sit in their car taxi lmao, i'll enjoy blasting past them

>>60323201
>i'll enjoy blasting past them
On two wheels, I hope, since I'm sure that the authorities will be able to command self driving vehicles to create rolling road blocks anywhere and anytime.

>>60323314
no you cant make chad late for work, there will be a major uproar if his car is used every second day as a roadblock

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Self driving cars could be a great privacy risk depending on how it's implemented.
Also, what if the NSA switches in into manual mode and drives me to prison because I looked at a special arrangement of led lights

>>60323314
>thinks passing another car is illegal

>>60323341
That is the cost of greater convenience. Open source alternatives are likely to not be developed for self-driving vehicle until decades, if not longer or maybe even never at all, after major proprietary software developers establish themselves in that market.

>>60323384
Excuse me, I mean the cost of greater convenience in a market that is universally regulated pretty heavily.

>>60321183
It's already safer than a human driver in most conditions. Self driving cars are the nuclear power of transport, far safer and more efficient than all other modes in most conditions by far but brainlets like OP are too dumb to see it.

>>60323355
Speeding is. I expect 2nd or 3rd generation fully automated cars to cooperate in ways humans would never do to keep traffic at the speed limit. I also expect that in time those erratic human driven cars will be 2nd class citizens on the highways, possibly even banned from them.