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Fuchsia will kill it on phones, then laptops, desktops, and servers. It's over. Android will be obsolete by 2020. Everything else will die by 2030.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2017/05/08/google-fuchsia-os-matures/
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Not with that font it won't
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>>60283337
>fucks ya, by google
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>fuchsia
>fucking fuchsia
Gayest. OS. Ever.
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>>60283337
open source =! libre =! liberated

Android barely can be unfucked from intricacies of google. this will be impossible
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Because everyone wants to use an OS done by an ad company
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Lots of hype but it will end up in the bin just like all other "innovative" Google projects
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>>60283337
looks promising
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>>60283415
>'member google wave
>e-mail is ded, based google
TOP KEK.
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Did they name it after rms's coat?
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understandable that they doing this desu
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>what if the company could design a platform while dumping all the technology it no longer needs or wants, such as Linux or any traces of Java?
wow rude
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>>60283368
This.

The fuck were they thinking?
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Probably the most gay OS name and color that they could think of. Fucking SJWs everywhere ruining the image of technology...
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>>60283337
in b4
>only runs android apps
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>>60283502

I guess they will heavily support flutter and other languages this time. Too much trouble with Oracle
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>>60283368
>>60283456
>>60283472
>what is google pride
>complaining about faggy colour scheme chosen by a faggy company
rly meks u thing
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>>60283399
Faggots like OP do.
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>>60283337
it'll have terrible performance and they'll abandon it eventually
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>>60283337
It probably won't, but if Fuchsia manages to overtake the desktop and server markets, I'm quitting computers forever. I don't want to live in a world where I use Google OS to use Google Chrome to access websites running on Google OS servers.
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Problems:
1: its not applel so sluts wont touch it
2: no directx so no games for fags

its dead, jim.
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>>60283337
Was it made by all gurlll Koders?
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>>60283574
no, it was made by this guy
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>>60283337
Fuchsia is a big pile of cuck bullshit that will end up on a small number of overpriced Google products before being shelved permanently because nobody else gives a shit about it.
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>>60283337
I see a lot of naysayers in this thread. But I think this is a trend away from monolithing kernels which will continue. It may or may not be Google's microkernel whether it is Fuchsia or something else they come up with, or the Redox microkernel, or the Hurd microkernel, or the seL4 microkernel, etc etc. But I think that the trend is that people are going to be more interested in heading in this direction away from monolithing kernels and towards microkernels, and exokernels like so called 'unikernels'. There has been a lot of interested in this in the last few years and I see that interest growing.
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>>60283337
>More C-based shit
In the bin it goes
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>>60283337
Unfortunately, it's just another example of Google's dead on arrival projects
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>>60283642
There's nothing wrong with C.
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>>60283636
a unikernel is not an exokernel
and microkernels are fucking pointless
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>>60283642
I'm >>60283636 so just because something is in C doesn't automatically mean bin it because consider how seL4 is in C but they have a program which reads in the C source code and translates it to into a theorem prover like Coq which formally verifies and proves that the C code is correct with no bugs.
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>>60283624

It will run android eventually
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>>60283636
>year of the microkernel is finally here!

Yeah, how about no?
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>>60283670
i c wat u did thar

C:
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>>60283337
>Google fucks ya

They sure fuck you a lot alright.
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>>60283337
Considering Google's track record with it's real innovative stuff (eg Buzz, Wave, etc), it will probably be either seriously gimped in favor of adtech or be commandeered by assclowns at launch to make it a new version of the Segway.

Honestly, they need to release some more information besides PR hype.
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>>60283678
>>60283695
Interested in this area has been growing in the last few years a lot of people are interested in this. See the discussions on places like Hacker News. People have been coming up with all kinds of unikernels and stuff like Mirage is catching interest and even microsoft had a few research operating systems like singularity and spinnoffs like cosmos. And consider how extremely rapidly Redox got traction and gained over 50 contributors, that's pretty impressive when considering how usually new OS go on in obscurity nobody interested and never catching on.
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>>60283623
Is everything of note at google made by Pike?
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>>60283772
he's actually not related to this project as far as I'm aware
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>>60283772
Has anything or anyone from bell labs gone on to do anything remotely interesting since the days of research unix?
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>>60283337
Fuck off Microsoft
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>>60283636
the trend to get onto new kernel designs is as old as linux itself and there wont be any shift you say will happen. why? because there is no need to. who would use a kernel that doesnt offer a feature set that works for what your are trying to accomplish? linux already has driver's and lots of features and the ring0 performance. the initial investment to catch up to linux feature set would be astronomical and is growing every day


tl;dr nobody has the time/money to produce a good alternative (for general use)
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>>60283337

Google has NEVER been good about being able to maintain backwards compatibility with their newer products, especially trying to replace Linux. Chances are small though, between the technical hurdles and Google getting slapped around for being monopolistic.
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>>60283399
Chrome OS and Android are insanely popular. WTF
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>>60283803
Plan 9
Inferno
Limbo
K-L algorythms
AMPL
AWK
UTF-8
Go

All of this made by four little shits. Be amazed. Not to mention Unix and C, of course.
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>>60283337
It's likely based on the linux kernel retard
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>>60283861
>Chrome OS
>popular

>>60283892
it's not
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>>60283861

"Insanely popular" as if 90% of the people give a fuck what they use.
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>>60283901
>>Chrome OS

it is in the US, especially in the education system
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>>60283825
All very valid points.
Maybe it's like how when you buy a certain kind of car and then after that all of a sudden you see that exact same kind of car everywhere, similarly Im interested in microkernels so I when I see so many discussions on it I think it more significant than warranted. But it is interesting how rapidly Redox attracted over 50 contributors which is very unusual for a OS, I have even wondered if its because of some politically motivated agenda with all that which is surrounding Rust. But on the other hand, at the very least there are a growing number of people who seem strongly dissatisfied with Linus so maybe all that might come together at the right time into a perfect storm.
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>>60283922
thats fucking scary

the fuck is it good for there?
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>>60283350
That font, that name, gayest shit ever.
You'd think Google could think of something better.
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>>60283922
What's it being used for?
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>>60283950
What does a student need a computer for other than writing documents, making powerpoints or doing math?

Google already covers those with google docs.
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>>60283922
>in US
The rest of the world isn't retarded enough to use iPhones and Chromebooks
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>>60283950
Schools like that it's super locked down and can only use google botnet services.
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>>60283969
brainwashing lil shit into consumerism and mediocrity
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>>60283337
but thats for embedded low power devices not desktops or even phones.
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>>60283950

they are provided by the school mostly I think (I'm not american)

But they are cheap and when they break they just get a new one, no loss of data and cheap to replace.
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>>60283989
gotcha
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>>60284017

that's why it got a smartphone interface called armadillo?
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>>60283939
there is always somewhere a sc student who has to deliver any kind of project. plenty of which pick obscure or unapplicable problems to solve and some try themself on stuff that never comes to be. lets just point out that there are to this day people who develop on haiku and react os. nothing wrong with that but also it shows just because these things exist doesnt mean they have to have a prominent/relevant place in general computing
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>>60283685
Citation needed.
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>>60283825
Actually Google
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>>60283571
the unironic botnet will rise to power in your lifetime.
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>>60283821
read this image guys, everything is true.
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>android is a gimped out java VM with a linux kernel
>fuschia is a kernel made to run a java VM

Why is this going to kill Linux again?
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>>60283398
Tyrannical open source software will wipeout free software. I'm not sure there's anything we can do to stop it at this point without destroying capitalism itself.
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>>60284360
>fuschia is a kernel made to run a java VM
wrong fuschia will run flutter/dart apps
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>>60284312
>a good alternative
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>A fucking lgbt endorsed kernel.
>runs this aberration of Javascript which is dart
>Apps meant to be cross-platform
So this is how Android ends. I don't give a shit. I'll keep using my rooted chink phone for ever and if the battery dies I'll buy another.
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I wonder if Jewgle uses Fucksia for its own servers instead of Linux.
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>>60284927
Why would they use incomplete software for their servers
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>>60285043
So nobody is going to use Fucksia for a while.
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>>60283884
UTF-8 is the only good and practical thing in that list that had a significant impact.
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>>60283337
>not gpl
>owned by google
>replace linux?
>TOP KEK
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>>60285092

Pretty much, its still in early stages.

If Google is serious about this (I suspect they are, Android is becoming a huge liability for them) I wouldn't expect anything until 2020 at the earliest.

The best sign of their seriousness is if they mandate that Play Store apps are written in whatever language fuschia ends up using years before its first release.
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>another fucking google product that fragments their own market even more and will be abandoned in a few months
ebin
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>>60283642
you should throw away your computer as well since it's written in C and you aren't making very good use of it
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>>60283642
Go ahead and throw away like 90% of the electronics you own.
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this build infrastructure is extra niggerlicious. Kernel itself looks interesting. Anyone tried running this on raspberry pi 3 or any other arm64 test board?
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>>60283529
No trap, no nigg, no disabled dude in the chair. Boycott google and their services.
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>>60283350
Every good project has a shitty font
we're fucked
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>>60283642
Anything even remotely relevant is C-based.

>>60283636
Please name just one microkernel that has been relevant in the past 20 years (or one that has ever been relevant beyond old Mac OS and maybe AmigaOS).
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>>60283529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QdSLeQ0494
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Looks more like an android competitor than a linux competitor.
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>>60283337
Crappy ass name.

Also Androids are cool as shit. Fucking fuchia? My mom might buy that I guess...
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>>60284485
literally what
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I wonder how loudmouth Linus feels about this.
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>>60287930
He must be feels good as Android didn't gave back anything useful aside high amount CVE numbers thanks to half baked SoC drivers.
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What does /g/ think about Google patent license?

https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta/blob/master/PATENTS
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>>60283337
Did we need another broken operating system?

>Dart
Did we need another javascript?

>inb4 we have a color-themed series of failed kernels from giggle.
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>>60287897
No java, apps are dart now. What is hard to understand?
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>>60288025
Microsoft still can milk them.
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Google is a huge fucking ad company
Android has shitload of ads in the device itself
It is obvious that fuschia will be having ads
If they conquer all the devices ,that's fucked cause you'll be seeing ads everywhere
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>>60283337
Linux was fine before Android, it'll be fine (arguably better) after it. Satisfying Android demands was killing other good opportunities and limiting development (read LKML).

Good riddance.
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>>60283415
It's much harder to bin an open source project than a SaaS.
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>>60283368
>>60283364
It's supposed to be read "fuck CIA".
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>>60283571
Nobody is forcing you to use Chrome -- at least not yet. Firefox runs on desktops and on Android.
>>60283642
The next big OS after Fuchsia will be written in Rust.
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>>60283636
I don't care about monolithic v. microkernels, but I really hope unikernels catch on soon. I am sick of having to ship an entire Un*x-compatible OS will its thousands of potential vulnerabilities just to run a daemon like Redis that doesn't even need disk access.
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>>60288182
Let's hope to fucking god Google uses the opportunity to start an app store from scratch that doesn't incentivize add ridden freeware so much and ends up with a decent Appstore like iOS

But who the hell am I kidding there's no other way they're going to get the Pajeets and cheap neckbeards and kids interested in downloading lots of apps
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>>60283901
Just last year where I live (Ontario, Canada), use of chromebooks became mandatory in high schools. If I remember correctly, students are now given one when they enter grade 9.
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>>60283623
every time
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>>60288504
>much harder to bin an open source project
mfw people don't want to work on inanely complex software with a retardedly massive codebase without being compensated
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>>60283337
>A new-and-improved botnet.
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>>60289099
>mfw you think it's a one man show
If it's important you will be compensated especially now, when corporate fags realised the meaning of free in floss...
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>>60283684
Isn't seL4 written in haskell?
I doubt you can formally prove C code without tracking the whole machine's state
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>>60283529
The asian fag to the right isn't bad, I'd fuck him in the ass.
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LMAOing at all the assblasted linux fangays in denial who say things like "lunix will be better now that google is dumpstering it"

Meanwhile Apple uses BSD code and all the BSD's are superior than your garbage GNU/Linux distros.
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>>60283337
>Fuchsia will kill Linux

2/10
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>>60289416
Don't talk about shit you know nothing about. sel4 specification is in haskell, implementation is in subset of C11 they chose to build a model for. Both formally verified with Isabelle/HOL. Problem is the only verified compiler (compcert) uses different model (large subset of C99). Should have used coq for the verification, but aussies are retards.
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> MIT license

uh no thanks
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>>60283642
>it's going to be a buffer overflow causes zero-day vulnerability episode

But C dindu nuffin C is a good language
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>>60290744
>blaming language for one's own incompetence and unfamiliarity with tooling
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>>60290781
If a tool is so poorly designed that only experts can use it safely, while there are others that even a monkey could use without hurting himself and achieve almost the same result, then your tool is a worthless piece of shit, my friend.
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>>60290854
nigger monkey detected
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>>60290854
You don't have to be an expert to run your code against static analyzers which catch most of the stupid shit one (even an expert) would do.
You can't write safe code in Rust. There is no mathematical model for it. You can in C though, there are several such models, including the one shipped with frama-c.
Rust is a webdev fad that will die as they get bored with their toy and find a new one. C is the language that runs the world and it won't change anytime soon. You need to bring something more to the table than glorified Ada, which is exactly what rust is, to replace C.
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>>60283961
>Goygle
>not being gay on purpose
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>>60283983
iPhones are in every first world country you brown piece of shit only people who use android are poorfags

Posted from my Galaxy s6
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>>60283337
>Killing Java on phones
That's good.
>Reinventing the wheel in "fuck knows what" time by writing their own OS
Why? They can stay on Linux and just use some closer to hardware language (like Apple is using Objective C and Swift) instead of Java with it's crappy JVM. That will give them good performance boost.
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>>60283983
iPhones are the standard for the corporate world.

Call me back when standard android can be remotely wiped by an exchange server.
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>>60291467
Google have decided they don't like either Torvalds OR Poeterring.
They think they have enough manpower in their machine to make this a reality.
IBM thought that once too, we'll see how it turns out for Google.

One thing is for sure, no one is going to care about it now that Android exists unless they can run Android apps, and Fuscia apps and preferably side-loaded Metro apps.
Google's Taligent won't work out any better.
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>>60291558
Just a laugh the top Google result for "Google's Taligent" is Google Fuchsia.

I'm not the only punter thinking this way...
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>>60291558
>Google have decided they don't like either Torvalds OR Poeterring.
On servers they still use Linux and systemd have nothing to do with Android and Linus potentially don't give a shit.
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>>60291558
When they kill gapps on android, you won't have much choice
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>>60291467
>That will give them good performance boost.
But they don't need extra performance boost. They've deliberately chosen to make bloatware to push the smartphone industry to the limit as MS did it for Intel.
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>>60283337
Too late.
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>>60283892
It absolutely isn't.

It's a multiserver design ontop the magenta microkernel.
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>>60285498
I've run it on rpi3. It built on the first try, and worked on the first try.

Not bad at all.
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>>60291581
GAPPS are not mandatory to install on Android, but in Fuchsia we don't know.
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>>60289435
fisting is 300 bucks
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>>60293366
How many apps work without google's cloud bullshit? Android without google is useless pretty much
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>Non GPL OS
Into the trash it goes
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...and I thought naming a fucking mobile phone OS "Android" and then codenaming every version after a goddamn candy or desert was as retarded as google could get
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>>60293459
There is a tool on fdroid to download apks from play store. Gapps are shit and android can work without it and this triggers the fags in sanfran.
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>>60293571
Not saying it can't, just that it doesn't. We're not talking about few autists on uzbeki yak-milking forum being able to use android without google. We're talking about majority of people loosing their most used apps when google decides to cut android from it's services.
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>>60293571
Which tool is that?
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So, have you watched kernel code instead of judging Fuchsia because of its name?
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>>60293898
https://github.com/yeriomin/YalpStore
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>>60283337
Why didn't they use MINIX 3 instead? I mean, it is already a microkernel with a BSD license, so what's not to like?
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>>60293891
Normalfags are helpless, but it doesn't mean i should give a fuck about their shit. Exploit them if i can.
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>>60294049
So you'll be using a dead os, full of security holes, that can't run any popular messaging platform, doesn't have push notifications, etc.? You might as well just write your own os at that point. Google has absolute control over android, so when they decide it's dead, oems will follow them. Fuchsia has absolutely no chance of being worse than android. It's impossible to build a worse system.
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I will continue to use Linux BSD etc.
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>>60283337
Linux won't die. This might take a bit of its marketshare, but Linux will remain A Thing, if for no other reason than people are invested in it and it's an OS that's not controlled by Google, Microsoft or Apple.
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>>60294139
Only in the server world, but in the consumer world, if not backed by some big name, it will die for sure.
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>>60291581
I don't own a smartphone.
And no servers need smartphone bullshit.

Android is literally trash. Google makes meme applications and the only things of value they have ever made search/gmail/maps are all over 10 years old. The company is not winning anymore.

No-one is handing control of their servers to Google. No-one. NT failed in the server-space for a reason.
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>>60283337
How do u even pronounce this?, sounds gay af
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>>60294116
>Google has absolute control over android
That's only true if you want play store. Chinese meme phones and amazon tablets says something else.
>oems will follow them
Most vendor hate android because most of the profit lands in google's hand when the heavy lifting is usually their part. Samsung tried to escape their shit, but didn't have the balls to make competitors for the galaxy line. Yet.
>Fuchsia has absolutely no chance of being worse than android.
0 compatibility with art. How is that a good thing?
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>>60294193
Pajeet, stop skipping your English homework.
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>>60283571
This is the end goal. Google isp to browse Google internet servers with Google browser on Google OS from your Google device.
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>>60294165
Thus is a thread about os for smartphones. It's pretty obvious it's not ever going to be used as a server os, even at google.
Android is indeed shit, that's why i'm excited about fuchsia. It will suck, but less. There's no way to make an abomination on the level of android again. It's what the masses use, and the masses are where the money is. Google controlls masses pretty well.

>>60294208
>That's only true if you want play store. Chinese meme phones and amazon tablets says something else.
They still use gapps and google's cloud service. You don't get push notifications without google, among many other things that make the phone actually usable for most people
>Most vendor hate android because most of the profit lands in google's hand when the heavy lifting is usually their part. Samsung tried to escape their shit, but didn't have the balls to make competitors for the galaxy line. Yet.
And they are not escaping. They don't have the manpower to support it. Especially true for the abomination that android is. With fuchsia, depending on licensing, they might have a better chance because it seems to be an actually sane system so you don't need the hordes of software engineers working on arcane bullshite
>0 compatibility with art. How is that a good thing?
It's not a good thing for smaller companies and pajeets that bet on android and java. They will now have to rewrite their apps in whatever google chooses (seems to be dart?), but unlike in android, the architecture makes it easy to support your language of choice.
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>itt: fake another """news""" article from a jewish company
the fucking KERNEL
>https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta
is a FORK of another LINUX KERNEL
>https://github.com/littlekernel/lk
>https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta/blob/master/docs/mg_and_lk.md
how is this going to kill linux in any way?

FUCK OFF JEWGGLE SHILLS
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>>60294042
>using all the bullshit that unix has to pull to work
No, thanks.
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>>60294339
(you)
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>>60294339
Are you retarded, son?
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so now people will have a real reason to fork AOSP.

Sounds good to me.
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>>60294468
This has long happened.

Not only with the community distros, but also on the corporate side around the pretty important Linaro consortium and other entities.
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>>60283337
Competition is always good esp. when backed up by Google.

Maybe Linux distros would finally start to unite and focus on unifying the ecosystem than splintering into gazzilion forks, package managers.
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>touching anything google

shiggy
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>>60294553
This.
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>>60283337
>Android will be obsolete by 2020.

Good riddance I say.
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>>60283961
They used it on purpose, so it will get adopted by an extremely vocal minority.

That's literally how Firefox became popular over IE and Opera.
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>>60294553
>implying it will affect desktop linux
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>>60283368
All google is infestest with queers and weirdos What were you expecting
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>>60294768
Yeah, they will bring their numbers near to zero again.
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>>60294193
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>>60294874
Currently Fuchsia have zero numbers and there is no Obama in the White House to swarm the schools with the latest Google abomination. Maybe next time.
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>mikrokerlel
enjoy you're performance
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>>60283337
>implying all (or even many) google projects last long enough to be useful without fucking everyone when they inevitably pull the project a few years from now
>being this much of a google shill

You seem to be forgetting that Google is an advertising company. Unless Fuchsia is going to help their bottom line, there's no fucking chance it will last 5 years let alone 13.
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>>60294953
http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2016/01/01/0/
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>>60283571
>Google OS to use Google Chrome to access websites running on Google OS servers
Help us Kikey-Wan Zuckerberg, you're our only hope!
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>>60294553
>Maybe Linux distros would finally start to unite and focus on unifying the ecosystem than splintering into gazzilion forks, package managers.
you use largely the same software in all linux distributions
only people with no technical knowledge keep parroting this non-issue
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>>60294953
>2017
>still believing that all microkernels are Mach
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>>60295192
>http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2016/01/01/0/
>mach run DOS
That's awesome in some ways.
>>
>open source
But is it free as in freedom?
>>
>>60284363
https://www.ethereum.org/
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>>60283337
then there's the problem of 3 million existing android apps they need to support
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>>60283337
>Xamarin is going to die.
I fixed it for you.
>>
We need a new OS

OS development has become pretty stagnant
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>>60294208
This, Google switching to fushia is Samsung wet dream. They can release their own os and slice a big chunk out of Google mobile market share.
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>>60294208
>Most vendor hate android because most of the profit lands in google's hand when the heavy lifting is usually their part. Samsung tried to escape their shit, but didn't have the balls to make competitors for the galaxy line. Yet.
What profit?
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>>60295722
This.
Thanks Linux. Thanks Unix.
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>>60295192
I was referring to the effort they are putting their distributions not the software. There is no need to have so many distributions as you can install any major distribution's netinstall, slap a DE on if you like and install any software that is supported by your device.

I'm currently downloading OpenSuSe Leap to use on my workstation but that is only because I'm working with rpm based servers and I hate Fedora with a passion due to it hating my machine.
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>>60297365
The most simpleton rpm based distro is mageia. Free software is about you chose your project, not merging everything in a giant pot and flaming on mail list in tribes because some people don't want glibc, or systemd or whatever happens the next anti-hipster software. Also there are distros that try to make an ecosystem. They won't merge with anything and its development is in cathedral model (android is one of them).
So it's not 1 maintainer + 1 maintainer = 2 maintainer. It's ok to have a bunch of distros as most of them just an iteration of the current packages with some new configuration. It's ok, you can make your own distro based on whatever existing repo and it's great.
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>>60297554
I somewhat agree but these 'distribution' wars are pointless.

I'm using OS as a tool to get the job done. Current set will be Windows 7 (as it is more than enough for what I need) and OpenSuSe Leap.
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>>60297365
you dont need to know anything about programming to make a linux distro.
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>>60295453
>But is it free as in freedom?
Yes. Open Source as defined by the OSI is, freedom wise, equivalent to Free Software as defined by FSF/GNU.
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>>60296167
This, fucking unixfags had to ruin everything. They killed every other viable option in the market, alongside other operating systems. Like that phrase "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly" they like to say so much.
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>>60283337
>FUCHSIA
>FUCK CIA
Are they trying to tell us something
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>>60298121
>FUCHSIA
>FUCK YA
yes they are literally going to anal rape you
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>>60283337
>Linux is going to die
Linux is dead. We killed it.
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>>60294193

"fucksya"
>>
>>60283337
DESU I might be ok with this. So long as it dual boots as easily as linux does
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>>60299570
Dual boot to install what?
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>>60288190

fuck russia
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>>60283337
t. unpaid google shill
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>>60299930
wangblows for my "it just werks"

also my excuse now, besides portable vidya, is that hardware updates are only available through windows utilities for my laptop
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>>60283337
>Linux ever dying before Torvalds' death
>>
>>60300608
This is my biggest fear. The moment Torvalds die is the moment Linux will be overrun by SJWs.
>>
>>60284017
it's pretty explicit in the documentation that it's intended to be scalable from IoT all the way up to desktop. You know, kinda like linux. This is on a very modern microkernel though, so it already beats the fucking piss out of linux.
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>>60283552

This

Ms tried to replace windows with singularity

Shit failed spectacularly and they lost billions in development only to go back to good old NT.

Meme shit like microkernels are just that memes.
>>
>>60283685
how many chromosomes do you have?
like 100?
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>>60301485

There's always BSD, loonix is already raped by SJW jewgle cucks
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>>60300608
Linus has tried damned hard to murder linux almost since day 1. Thankfully the open-source community is fighting tooth and nail to prevent that.
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>>60283337
>Fuchsia
>Fuckcia
>Fuck CIA
Fuck CIA, score one for the good guys!
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>>60302067
Fuchsia is a color.
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>>60302109
What kind of color is "fuck CIA"?
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>>60283399
/thread

Google promote the image they do because they are the sleaziest company out there.

I found out Eich's new browser uses chromium today, I cried a little, was my last hope against google.
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>>60283337
google with continue to use linux on servers
this will just replace the linux kernel on media consumption user end devices. In the end there's little real loss to the linux community.

Android developers rarely
>contribute any code to the linux kernel
>actually fucking post kernel sources

google does to contributions in regards to the android project but it's almost shit android related so meh. If google just didn't fuck up android's design so bad in some aspects we wouldn't have this problem. Modern kernels never man
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>>60302178
It could always move up to servers...

It's meant to scale from desktop to smartphone to """IoT""" already
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>>60302109
>>60302114
someone post the pic of that punk with pink colored hair CIA nigger agent
>>
Proper µkernel multiserver architecture with the backing of Google.

Linux doesn't stand a chance. And I'm glad. It's about fucking time.
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>>60303881
Don't use my headshot wife to shitpost.
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>>60283337
Looks nice but that's not happening.
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>>60303881
>Proper µkernel multiserver architecture
might as well write it in java,same performance
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>>60283337
Is update distribution still a tire fire like Android?
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>>60283364
nailed it
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>>60304995
It is just another kernel, I don't see this changing any of the previous issues of Android.
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>>60293459
I don't have gapps and never really had issues with any Android apps

>>60293505
>it's bad for using a superior license
wat
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>>60283337
> google

No thanks I don't want broken shit

I just got an android 7 phone and that shit has problems when apps try to use the sd card
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>>60288528
yeah, from one of the biggest collaborators out there. Are you stupid or did you hit your head when you were a kid?
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>>60285498
try it on qemu aarch64 virt board
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>>60283961
Well, no.
No, I wouldn't.
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>>60288909
How does Google excuse having such an absolute shitheap of an app store? It's completely unusable unless you know the exact name of the app you want
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>>60293533
They didn't chose the name Android, and even if they did, Android is a great name. Way better tha Fuchsia
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I've read it runs on compiled javascript.

So... javascript is taking over everything?
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>>60294941
>Currently Fuchsia have zero numbers
They just started the project, give them some time.

>no Obama in the White House to swarm the schools with the latest Google abomination
This is irrelevant
>>
>>60283456
Google here. If you must know, it's because we already have projects called Turquoise and Magenta.
>>
>200+ posts
>Only 3 mentions of "botnet"

G..guys? Are the shills here?
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>>60305509
>This is irrelevant
Only schools buy them in mass.
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>>60305732
>shills
>>>/pol/
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>>60305783
Schools buy them because they are basically dumb terminals, so kids can't really fuck them up like Windows machines.
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>>60306306
MS and Linux supports thin clients too. It's all about Google's lobby.
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>>60305508
I'd like to see some proofs.
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>>60304879
lrn2rd
>>60295194
>>60295063
>>
>>60290987
>wymyn
>bearded numale hipster cuck
>nog wymyn
>chink
>wymyn
>nog
>>
>phones
Nope. A OS with less features aren't gonna make it. Been tried before.
>then laptops
Chromebooks sure, if google pushes it.
>desktops,
No. Again maybe "chromeboxes"
>and servers
No, other than SOME of googles own.
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>>60308460
>less features
And no apps
>>
YAAAAAAAAS QUEEN SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

*sips bull semen*
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>>60285170
kill self
>>
>>60283337
finally someone actually capable, besides apple and microsoft, is making an OS
>>
>>60308470
implying it doesn't simply have a dalvik vm packaged in.
>>
>>60295524
they have a compatibility layer in the works.

Problem solved.
>>
>>60302064
Nigga, what?
>>
>>60283399
iPhones and Macs don't have this problem
>>
>>60283399
>Because everyone wants to use an OS done by an ad company

It couldn't possibly have more ads than Windows 10.
>>
>>60288708
Redis needs disk access because it's going to try and load more than 1600 gigabytes of ram and it's going to need to swap them to the disk. Also, the config file
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>>60283821
I believe you anon, I mean is not like people go to the internet and say lies right?
>>
>>60283337
Good. I like dart.
>>
>>60283825
Just virtualize linux and then incrementally replace it. Like how web-devs incrementally replace php generated web page components with modern javascript equivalents.
>>
>>60287783
>Please name just one microkernel that has been relevant in the past 20 years (or one that has ever been relevant beyond old Mac OS and maybe AmigaOS).
MINIX is still being maintained and has been around since the late 80s.
>>
>>60287783
QNX's kernel
SeL4
>>
Linux is cancer, good riddance.
>>
>>60283552
it's in their best interest to have an OS that meets their infrastructure demands

If they're working on custom silicon and hardware what makes you think they can't put together a proper OS to unify everything? Not that I'm for abandoning GNU/Linux I just don't see why it will fail
>>
>>60283803
No. I know it might sound shocking but people tend to age and Bell Labs dissolved decades ago
>>
>>60283939
yeah, but I doubt their intention is to make a general purpose kernel

I would imagine they want to write something purely compatible with their hardware to run as efficiently as possible
>>
>>60316861
It's not just ageing. Maybe his wife affected his retarded style.
>>
>>60316907
Then they would still use little kernel and rewrite it in C++.
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>>60317779
*don't rewrite it
>>
>>60295556
Xamarin will prevail. Smart fellas in that joint.
>>
>>60283337
>An OS made by an advertising company
>Look at the history(present) iOS app ads vs Android app ads.
>>
>>60283337
Can I install a tiling window manager on it?
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>>60317874
>implying anyone will need Xamarin after Flutter SDK get in production
There is no workaround in this game for Icaza and his minions.
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>>60283337
>Linux is going to die
They said that about Minix in the early 90s. Linux won't die until they start lowering Torvalds's casket into the ground.
>>
>>60283415

the best google products are raw code. everything else is an afterthought.
>>
>>60308489
No
>>
So, does this mean Linux is kill?
>>
https://askubuntu.com/a/569345
Non ironically explaining linear algebra to adjust mouse sensitivity
It's about fucking time Linux dies
>>
>>60283337
Why have you shared a Google AMP link?
>>
>>60318576
Keep dreaming.
>>
>>60283399
Read the source BRO
>>
>>60283337
I'm already working on getting it running on my system and getting some linux utilities running

As well, why is everyone here ignorant to the fact that we could just de-botnet and redistribute this?
Not to mention there's no trace of botnet yet if you read the source
>>
>>60291494
you wipe it with google device policy, more and more companies are using gmail instead of exchange
>>
>>60283337
This is going to end up like all the stuff by google that fails miserably.

A real open source operating system that's aimed towards low powered complex devices like phones would be nice though.
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>>60283350
>>60283961
They name their shit after sweets.

The Project Manger presiding over the Indians making Android is likely a cum-gargling homo (and therefore kiddie fiddling) fat piece of shit.
>>
>>60320872
>They name their shit after sweets
Nothing wrong with that. Better than name your shit after cats.
>>
>>60320872
How do you jump from sweets to homosexuality?
The fuck is wrong with you...
>>
>>60320872
Dumb frogposter
>>
>>60283368
The worlds first COC OS
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>>60294193
Actually I had a horticulture teacher explain that while most people pronounce this fyu-shuh, the original way was fooksia.
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>>60323556
>fyu-shuh
Who the fuck pronounce Fuchsia lika that?
>>
>>60283695
why?
>>
>>60323721
Maybe a better way to type it is few-shia.
It's the only way I've heard it.
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>>60324110
> few-shia
Fuck-cia.
>>
>>60315003
Ok, but who uses Minix for anything productive or for daily general purpose computing? Isn't it an eternal toy/research project?
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>>60288504

tell that to opensolaris
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>>60321349
>Better than name your shit after cats.
What's wrong with that?
>>
>>60294193
fucks-ya
>>
>>60283337
Not with that name it won't
>>
>Phones
Nope. It'll be as big of a failure as Tizen or Firefox OS
>Laptops
Nope - not unless you mean they treat like MS did with Windows NT and slowly abandon Chrome OS.
>Desktops
Not a chance in hell.
>Servers
Even less - Linux is only taking over even more of the server market as corporations phase out ancient mainframes running shit like OpenVMS and z/OS.
>>
>>60283337
Good. Linux is terrible because it's maintained by nonwhite gamma minuses. At least the muds at Google are motivated by money.
>>
>>60315111
But an OS made by an advertising company is so much better, right?
>>
>>60318875
>Google
>No trace of botnet
You know Android (AOSP) is open source too, right? That's why CopperheadOS exists.
>>
>>60324321
Intel. In the Management Engine crap.
>>
>>60283697
>C:
C://
>>
>>60283337
>Google

At least it'll stop normies from fucking up GNU/Linux, I do expect babby tears when it gets better videogame support leenux after like a week of being out.
>>
>>60284363
Capitalism will outlast your kind, you puny ape. It is a force as fundamental as evolution.
>>
>>60327373
It'll be great. Valve already ported HL2 and Portal to android so they're familar with google's development tools. Valve games should be on Fuchsia almost immediately
>>
>>60324655
Nah, Pajeet-tier programmers are Betas.
>Linux programmers wear plain color t-shirts. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfully glad I'm an Android developer, because I don't work so hard...
>>
>>60301742
No, BSD gets its share of that too. Google 'FreeBSDGirl'.
>>
>>60301742
>raped
>by cucks
>>
>>60283337
>Fuchsia
>Fuchia
>Fuchya
>Fuckya
>FUCK YA

Are the GTA writers working with Google to come up with names?
>>
> Google OS
No fucking way I'm using it on pc
>>
>>60327829
It's pronounced "future".
>>
>>60327516
WTF. Brave New World reference?
>>
>>60324682
Android yes, their GAPPS not.
>>
>>60318204
>Flutter SDK
Literally who?
>>
>>60283430
Google wave was fucking fun with friends. Sadly it was built on some fricking java framework.
>>
I honestly not even a bit interested. I rather enjoy android having roots on linux and running linux on everything. Yeah linux aint the best choice for embedded systems but one just cant write similar cross platform support linux already has, not even google can produce that.

I like running aosp android without gapps if I please.
>>
>>60294628
>That's literally how Firefox became popular over IE and Opera.
Firefox became popular because IE was so shit that even normies were getting sick of it.
>>
>>60308514
Neither apple nor microsoft are very capable, if we're judging them by their ability to make OS.
>>
>>60318576
xorg is already deprecated, and that has nothing to do with the kernel.
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>>60283337
I want fuchsia to be a windows smasher not a tux killer
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>>60331576
But OS X is great
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>>60332387
Great in what?
>>
>>60332508
At being a desktop operating system.
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>>60332522
What a great system, isn't it? Too bad it's a clusterfuck for the most people.
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>>60283337
CoreOS is dank for it's use-case. This on the other hand seems stupid
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