Is wikipedia dying? What should it do to cure its cancer?

it got hijacked by left wing activists so now no one views it as credible

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>>60275712
Give Big Jimbo $20

>>60275712
Moderate to minimum standards of specific EU / US natonal laws.

Introduce tagged "importance" filters to allow hiding away very detailed descriptions that are only relevant for people who follow the details of national / local topics or even readers of a certain publication.

You could then just enable all topic details that likely are only relevant to people from Los Angeles and who read reddit because they never really made it out of information sources local to these places, and it wouldn't have to be moderated out of WP entirely.

>>60275712
>What should it do to cure its cancer?
Ask for even more donations.

>>60275724
>Conservapedia
>credible

>>60275724
It never was a credible or authorative source of infornation.

It turned into kike propaganda

>>60275810
only liberals beg for money

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>>60275712
it turned into a project of how much content can they delete by referring to WP:**-sections than it is a project of presenting human knowledge

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>>60275826
its not meant to be authoritative, it was meant to provide objective information and sources. but now it doesnt even do that, it censors actual facts and sources that the admins dislike. no one believes theyre credible administrators of an online encyclopedia any longer, just like no one believes snopes is a fact checking site anymore either.

>>60275973
Cuckservatives and shitlibs are the same thing you homo.

>>60275712
Lots of different groups using to to push a verity of political agendas

>>60275712
Wikipedia is dead. Too many agenda-driven e-gangs a.k.a "taskforces".

Just let it die

>>60276028
ayy the goalpost

>>60275712
You really dont know how use shillpedia?
> tip: You dont fucking use the article posted on the shitsite

>>60275712
It stopped being even an untrustworthy encyclopedia and is now just another vector of far left misinformation.

>>60276299
Still better than far right misinformation.

>>60276382
Sure, if only there was such a thing as the "far right"

>>60276382
>Same thing
>Better
Do you even understand how shit works?
Macfags can at-least say "I prefer the operating system"

>>60276382
>due to its political slant, this set of false information is better than that set of false information
Interesting.

>>60275712
If liberal Universities give credits to students for editing in feminism in articles and if they allow literal open commies to edit how can anyone view it as credible on any topics that are even tangentely political or social.

>>60275712
>>60276002
Wikipedia can't be fixed, it's broken and it's been for many years.

Think about this, who has time to spend all day every day editing Wikipedia articles so they can become an admin there? Those who for various reasons have it as their job, that's who.

I'm guessing OP just realized that it's a simply a propaganda tool and therefore think's it can be fixed. It can't.

The real fix is to setup your own website(s) and use other websites.

>>60275712
>Is wikipedia dying?

For what I use it for, wikipedia is just fine -- in fact, it's often my first and often only resource.

Here's an example of the kind of articles I've looked at over the past few days. Every one of them is a fine, informative article for me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stability_of_the_Solar_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-relational_impedance_mismatch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(computer_programming)

>>60275712
Not much is wrong with it. Unless you search for politically sensitive material, but who gets their news from wikipedia?

Did the MOSFET page change to further leftist propaganda? No.

>T-these are all leftist propaganda!
t. you

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NO ONE TOUCHES MY ARTICLE IT'S MINE FUCKING NORMIES STOP EDITING MY ARTICLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Who cares about Wikipedia? I mean, it doesn't accept the cherrypicked charts I took from /pol/, and debunks with arguments all the shitty studies we, at /pol/, use to justify our bigotry.

Wikipedia is obviously fake news controlled by super Jews because it doesn't align with my personal, bullshit, opinions. I get all my news from /r/thedonald anyway.

>>60275724
Reality has a left wing bias

>>60276480
>propaganda tool
Propaganda of what exactly?

>>60276915
THE JEWS. You can only trust Metapedia.

>>60276164
>agenda-driven
The fuck does this even mean?

>>60275973
Do they have a literal jews face slide in on a half screen banner to beg for donations?

>>60276915
>Propaganda of what exactly?
Class D amplifier propaganda.

>>60276712
Its only bad on the humanities.

>>60275712
>What should it do to cure its cancer?

Nuke it from orbit. Restart it in urbit.

>>60276879
Tell that to David Reimer's grave

>>60276921
>>60276939
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking about.
That and the article about Metaheuristic I was reading.

>>60276879
lel, btfo

>>60276712
Now check the articles on Gamergate or Cultural Marxism

>>60276931
Does conservapedia have anywhere near the same reach and daily users as wikipedia?

>>60277112
>Gamergate
Was a serious failing for wikipedia.
>Cultural Marxism
Doesn't real.

>>60276923
For any politically related topic, or sociology, or even controversial-but-historical items, the articles are practically tripe. In any article where you can paint a certain group or people as good/bad, or where someone can benefit from an article being slanted in a particular way, the article becomes a battleground. Whoever has more patience, or has a bigger number of partners in their e-mob a.k.a taskforce, wins. Their viewpoint gets to the forefront, and the loser gets to be relegated to a couple of footnotes.

>>60277123
conservapedia is where liberals from wikipedia larp as conservatives and a few confused boomers who believe its legit

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Information wants to be free.

Checkmate Jimmy.

>>60277112
The article on Gamergate is 100% accurate.

>>60277130
If we had known the ultimate truth we wouldn't need an encyclopedia. It is perfectly normal to have discussions during editing.

Give an example and let's go over that.

>>60276712
>For what I use it for, wikipedia is just fine -- in fact, it's often my first and often only resource.

Well that is the thing really: as long as it is your "first and often only resource" it will appear "just fine", to put it in your very own words.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_marxism

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It's dying because shit like pic related.

https://thecreatorsproject.vice.com/blog/art-feminism-wikipedia-edit-a-thon-records

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/16/feminists-at-oberlin-bucknell-temple-host-wikipedia-edit-a-thon/

>>60277130
Thanks for the explanation. Even though I kinda see that as normal.
That's also why we have elections. The majority opinion is going to win.

>>60277201
>'Cultural Marxism' in modern political parlance refers to aconspiracy theorywhich sees the Frankfurt School as part of an ongoing movement to take over and destroyWestern society.

Literally what's wrong with that? It's literally what /pol/ says all the time

>>60277201
Wtf is cultural "marxism" even? Doesn't the clueless right realize that the cultural revolution has been driven by capitalism? Abortion and sex change surgeries are all about money. If anything, it should be called "cultural capitalism".

>>60277232
how it became to be. the lefties basically strong armed their views into getting it deleted and merged. and conspiracy has a huge negative connotation for something that is based on history.

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>>60277112
>cultural marxism

searching that brings up the right page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

>>60277256
why does the clueless left not realize seizing the means of production (labor) and capitalism which is seizing money which is based on labor is the same shit. it's just two groups vying for power with different ideologies

Humanities have always been a pointless shitflinging contest, both right and left are mad that there is no hegemony (and before you underaged /pol/tards complain, there is a leftist bias but it's a matter of more human workforce being devoted to it).

What really matter is that hard sciences are fine, facts are as ok as possible and as many subjects are added to it as humanly possible, the point of enciclopedias is providing a surface glance at subjects but making sure every subject is compiled into a single source, you are supposed to build of off it, not take it as a final source.

I swear, discovering populism has made you yuropoors and murrifats even .ore retarded than usual, have fun with that.

>>60277264
Basing your fantasy in history doesn't mean anything.

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>>60277310
Populism is dead in europe though didn't you hear?

>>60276879
I guess that's why left wing ideology is the greatest creator of inequality and death then?

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>>60277291
I just see it as distributing resources evenly as needed, doing away with mindless consumerism and waste of resources and advertising and the whole planned obsolence, use-and-dispose mindset

combined with automating menial jobs that nobody really needs to do, leaving a few tasks left that are still hard to automate, that people passionate for it can do, be it being doctors, doing research, or maintaining stuff. There are already tons of nonprofit organizations so there are people like that.

not the 60-80s meme communism where everyone is supposed to do hard labour and live off potatoes only

there has never before been this possibility of not needing to work because of previous technological constraints

of course jews/americans are never going to allow anything like that to happen

>>60277337
For now, no one there is really prepared to deal with populism, it's shitposting in politics form.

They'll have fun once nationalism kicks in and civil liberties become restricted.

>>60277177
>If we had known the ultimate truth we wouldn't need an encyclopedia

The obvious, correct treatment with disagreements is to present all of them and let the reader make up his own mind, not to wage a jihad.

"Nullius in verba". That's the golden standard for science and truth. Now we have political correctness and no-platforming.

>>60277396
the oligarchs aren't going to let you eat tendies and jack off to anime for free they will squash you with their robotic army if you protest their power grab. if communism did actually work it would be the quickest way to end humanity. It comes down to this. You either believe or do not that a utopia is possible and beneficial or you do not that is the basis of communism.

>>60277337
>Populism is dead in europe though didn't you hear?

This is just the antebellum.The economy is going nowhere and immigration is only going to get worse.

>>60277380
Left wing is all authoritarian communist countries, alright. The right wing is all Nazis then.

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>>60277279
isn't it odd how shit like COINTELPRO gets through the cracks but the george soros page has nothing about blm, not even on the talk page or it's archives?
also
>yfw marxists can't into memeing or economics
no wonder the neocons are winning

>>60275724
t. alt cuck

>>60276406
But anon, not wanting unlimited sand monkey immigration is extremely far right. Hitler didn't want sand monkeys either. You don't want to be literally Hitler, do you?

>>60277515
All ideologies are retarded, the whole point of a true republic is making sure no one retard stays in power long enough to fuck it up badly.

>>60277515
>The right wing is all Nazis then.

The nazis were a mixture of rightist zombies with socialist memes.

The actual right wing were the nobles, the KANGS and shit from the ancien régime. Throne and altar. The organic state. All that jazz. WW1 destroyed them all.

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>>60277232
>>60277256
>>60277279
>>60277324

>Thinking /pol/ made up Cultural Marxism
>Believing it's a conspiracy theory
>Falling for the very same manipulation that we are literally discussing right now

>>60277588
Prove it from first principles.

>>60277588

4chan is on the political radar now. Infiltration and subversion. Rules for radicals. All by the book. And a lot of useful idiots that even do it for free.

It works, because leftists have thermodynamics by their side. To destroy, to engender chaos, is always easier than creating, to order. Civilization is a eternal fight against entropy.

It already covers most general info

Specific info is for other wikis

>>60277708
Fuck off back to /x/.

>>60277562
>Le all sides are the same meme
I bet you watch South Park too

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Since alt-right hypocrites have invaded /g/

>>60277756
kek

>>60277424
>"Nullius in verba". That's the golden standard for science and truth.
That's a highminded ideal that is literally impossible to make real.

Most of science is dependent on the verbum, i.e. stuff other people wrote that you have to trust in to a certain extent. Only in new fields a single scientist could learn the entire body of knowledge, but even they would be dependent on knowledge of related fields, and it would only be a matter of time for complexity to rise to such an extent that you have to rely on the word of other people.

>The obvious, correct treatment with disagreements is to present all of them and let the reader make up his own mind, not to wage a jihad.
You can have that in the discussion page, but the actual article needs to be in a readable format, which prevents people from putting 400 screens worth of flat earth theory on a page about heliocentrism.

>>60277733
I am old enough and have seen enough to know that there is no right solution and anyone that thinks so needs some growing up to do, it does make sense that 4chan has turned to politics, all the underaged ban are getting into college years now and are full of stupid ideologies. Have fun having your dreams shattered but not being able to do nothung because you voted an authoritarian into power.

Who /radical center/ here?

>tfw people attack neoliberalism

>>60277756
>the donald
Full of neoconservatives, leftists by another name

>>60277756
Maybe the thing he noticed is that places with little moderation tend to attract the whiny babbies from the places with moderation.

Can't you just read the talk page and history on pages that would engender more controversial bias?
If I'm reading about something more neutrel it seems fine.

>>60277785
Search for "Earth".
You'll find plenty of papers on it.
This means the Earth is flat.

>>60275927
conservatards litter that shit with ads and never actually become relevant to begin with

>>60277804
By your logic Trump is left

>>60277849
He's a Nazi, what isn't left by his logic?

>>60277771
>That's a highminded ideal that is literally impossible to make real.

Like every model and theory in science, ideals are to be approximated as humanly possible, to strive for them, not to throw the to the trash because ideology.

>You can have that in the discussion page, but the actual article needs to be in a readable format, which prevents people from putting 400 screens worth of flat earth theory on a page about heliocentrism.

You put a link to the flat earth theory article, then.

>>60277177
>Give an example and let's go over that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon

Here is a standard example. A long time ago, this topic was about classics of Western art, items that were powerful and influential enough to have influenced Western culture, whether they be books, poems, paintings or sculptures.

You can see evidence that this was once a great article, every other paragraph. But somehow, sandwiched between these good paragraphs is a lot of unrelated material about how Western canon is biased to favour the works of European men, how this needs feminism/minorities/Marxism.

You wonder: What exactly does Western canon have to do with Marxism? Western canon typically relies on art from the 17th century and prior, so why is feminism in there? How are we getting alternating paragraphs about Western canon and paragraphs of unrelated sociopolitics?

You see, there was another article called "Dead White Men":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dead_white_men

THAT article criticizes Western art for being the work of white men. Some extreme retard decided that "dead white men" should be merged with "Western canon". Why? I do not know, but here we are.

The article is now rubbish. You can no longer read about Western canon on Wikipedia, without also reading about unrelated feminism and Marxism.

Now head over to any article about any ongoing conflict, especially controversial sociopolitical conflicts, and enjoy the mess.

>>60277877
>Like every model and theory in science, ideals are to be approximated as humanly possible, to strive for them, not to throw the to the trash because ideology.
People disagree on how to do that. Doesn't mean that they don't value that ideal.

>You put a link to the flat earth theory article, then.
Yeah. In the discussion page, at most.

>>60277813
I proved that Cultural Marxism isn't a conspiracy theory made up by /pol/. I don't know what your autistic rambling is supposed to be about.

>>60277396
mate, TVP and other start trek type communism ideas are a joke.

>>60277942
The Earth isn't a conspiracy theory either. Therefore it's flat, and anything you hear to the contrary is a conspiracy.

>>60277928
>feminists and sjws are ruining everything

and the sky is blue.

>>60276879
gr8 b8 m8
surely no one is stupid enough to actually belive this as true

>>60277928
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon
Can you pinpoint exact portions for me please?

Because,
- It is obvious that the debate section would cover these.
- It is obvious that 20th century would have a feminism section.
- It is obvious that there would be a women in western art section.

I don't understand which particular section breaks the flow of the article.

Simple, stop editing with zero references. Also new edits can't be posted before being reviewed. Like it's a great idea, but corrupted by think tank derailers.

>>60277177
The Gamergate article is fucked up. That's the only truly biased article I've seen though.

Wikipedia is fine. Stop shitposting.

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>>60278012
Dude... the section about Non-Western 20th century stuff is twice as big as the section on classical Greek philosophers.

And it comes before.

>>60278080
That's because the definition of Gamergate is not something everyone agrees on and it should not be considered encyclopedic knowledge anyway.

>>60278081

Wikipedia is shit and I'm glad that other interest specific wikis are balkanizing wikipedias stronghold on general purpose information.

>>60278122
Did you read that section? It literally talks about the effects Western canon had on everyone else. What better topic could've been chosen to focus on the impact Western canon has? And it's not presented out of blue either, it is in the section dedicated to the "expansion" of Western canon.

I still don't see your point.

>>60278125
agreed, it started out as a chick whoring herself for better reviews of her game, and then it spiralled out of control and I'm not even sure what it is about anymore.

>>60278122
The first paragraph is info specific to expansion of western canon. Where else would it go?
A more in depth section on the greeks would just be redudant since there's pages for that.

>>60275724
Guys, I'm from Italy and here Wiki is pretty safe from political biases, thankfully.
People contributing understand how an objective point of view is a central value of an enciclopedia, thus they manage to deliver a suprisingly quantity of high quality content.
En Wiki is cancer, on the contrary.

>>60275712
Wikipedia should die already. Literally nobody with a functioning brain uses it.

>>60278036
>Subversion. The favorite weapon of the left. Don't even bother to answer them, you're arguing with a meat bot.
In other words, don't let yourself get seriously confronted on your beliefs and you can enjoy your echo chamber.

> Once an idea has a name it's easier to recognize it everywhere.
In fact, it even makes it easier to recognize phenomena that don't exist, such as lunar effects.

>>60278155
You did not read the section. It does not talk about Western canon's influence on others. It talks about non-Westerner contributions in the 20th century, and dedicates more space to that than the article does to Greek philosophers.

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>>60278012
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_canon

not that anon, but take a look at pic related. The article covers, in ONE paragraph, contributions ranging from Homer to Becket. That's almost 3000 years of literature in one paragraph.

Then below, mentioning the Canon's expansions, fucking Pamuk gets his own paragraph, including a mention of all his books, his university job and other bullshit. Garcia Marques gets TWO paragraphs, which include a quote from Colombia's president saying how great he was. What the fuck does that have to do with the fucking Canon? Not their mention, but all the other shit thrown in? Why?

Wikipedia isn't dead, just the articles of political nature should not be taken as fact.

>>60278180
It's a boogeyman that doesn't exist anymore

>>60278188
>A more in depth section on the greeks would just be redudant since there's pages for that.

Bullshit. Check out pic here >>60278228 and tell me why they needed to include the whole fucking bio of all those minority writers, when they too have their own pages, but they just mention 30 western authors in one paragraph. Bullshit.

>>60278228
What happens if you edit it?

>>60278218
They're included in Western canon because they produced Western-style work that became prominent in literature of others so they "expanded" the Western canon.

>>60278228
That is impossible to manage though. There might be one editor that knew much about the guy, but there might not be any that knew a lot about the actual topic. So yeah it is messy but not perpetuating an agenda.

>>60275724
>>60278196
Non-english wikipedias are funny.
From super-objectivity to weird cranks and conspiratards that went unnoticed.
There's literally a part of an article that says "some people say the US gov is getting cucked by zionists"

>>60278180
>it started out as a chick whoring herself for better reviews of her game
No, it started out as a bunch of Wizards jumping on a false claim that she did.

>>60278283
>they needed to include the whole fucking bio of all those minority writers
They're not minority writers, they're literally people from other countries that produced western style work.

>>60275712
everything on the internet that started "free" were actually heavily seeded and funded by the USA "elites" that /pol/ sees as "jews" (trust me they're not -just- jews), which later transformed to shape the western population into their political agenda.
as for the censorship in Turkey, most of us don't give a fuck here, since there are much better well-documented and well-sourced encyclopedia sites out there (usually tied to British universities). people need to be aware of "what the majority says should be right thing" complex (including hired redditor rating tweaks)
t. albino roachfag

>>60275712
Ditch Jimmy Corrupto

>>60278125
Everything should be encyclopedic knowledge. Deletionism is harmful. Even Jimmy agrees.

>>60278333
What did the blog post by the boyfriend say? Could that have been the reason?

>>60277928
fuck sake falcon, take off your tripcode already. I used to respect you.

>>60275712
Purge all the SJWs and Americans they hired onto the staff would be a great start

>>60277279
It's hard to say it's a "KONSPEARASEE THEROY" when it's clearly visible to look at.

>>60278444
>Believing an ex's rant about a woman without question because you're a kissless virgin who needs to believe women are in no way worthwhile so you don't off yourself over your abject failure over everything in life
Could that have been the reason?

>>60276923
It means they constantly push their chosen agenda. Do you understand words?

>>60276879
Yeah, survival of the fittest and natural selection is exactly the same as welfare for the weak and everyone being equal

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They still use my article that I wrote when I was 14. The bottom picture is from me.

>>60277194
> as long as it is your "first and often only resource" it will appear "just fine",

But here's the thing:

When I put those articles into practice, I almost never find errors.

And when I compare those articles to other sources, I almost never find contradictions.

Maybe wikipedia's technical articles aren't perfect -- but they save me a huge amount of time because (for the particular articles that I read) they can, as a practical matter, be sufficient as a first and only resource. I'm not writing a PhD thesis here -- I don't need to have extraordinarily high standards for my reference materials.

It's analogous to stackoverflow. If I forget exactly how to get the current weekday from the JavaScript Date object, the first stackoverflow post I read usually gets it right -- and I can tell it's right because the code actually works for me. Now, I could, if I wanted to, fret about how it's possible that I've been misled by some idiot posting bad code on stackoverflow. But I have found through the years that just isn't a big problem. So I can do one of two things: (1) rail about how shitty stackoverflow is and refuse to use it, or (2) use stackoverflow as an ultra-quick resource so I can just get the fuck on with my coding. Since I'm a pragmatic person, you can probably predict which approach I take.

>>60277279
>(((conspiracy theory)))

>>60278536
Probably because nobody speaks Hungarian.

>>60278488
lol what

>>60278561
(((((())))))

>>60278285
-WP:SOCK, WP:SPA, WP:TROLL
-You are being disruptive!
-Stop or I will bring this up to the relevant Wikiauthorities!
-You are topic banned. Any edits to anything related to this topic will result in a total ban (and nuking your house, if we could only...)

>>60278289
Why have an article on "Western canon" at all then? Do you see huge paragraphs about Western influence on Japanese art in this article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_art

Why have 3 paragraphs about 3 Japanese and Chinese authors, and 1 paragraph about more than 20 Western authors?

>>60277130
STEM-related topics are exempt from this.

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>>60277756
>reddit
>right-wing

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>inserting off by one errors into psuedocode on wikipedia

>>60277217
Pic: So I guess that pic is demonstrating that black women can be feminists too.

I think they call that "intersectional feminism", if I remember correctly.

>>60278592
After the end of World War II in 1945, many artists began working art forms derived from the international scene, moving away from local artistic developments into the mainstream of world art. But traditional Japanese conceptions endured, particularly in the use of modular space in architecture, certain spacing intervals in music and dance, a propensity for certain color combinations and characteristic literary forms.

Art from 1603 to 1945 (Edo period and Prewar period) were supported by merchants. Counter to Edo period and Prewar period, art of Postwar period was changed to the art which is supported by people as consumers. The wide variety of art forms available to the Japanese reflect the vigorous state of the arts, widely supported by the Japanese people and promoted by the government. In the 1950s and 1960s, Japan's artistic avant garde include the internationally influential Gutai group, which originated or anticipated various postwar genres such as performance art, installation art, conceptual art, and wearable art. In photography, Kansuke Yamamoto was prominent.

American art and architecture greatly influenced Japan. Though fear of earthquakes severely restricted the building of a skyscraper, technological advances let Japanese build larger and higher buildings with more artistic outlooks.

As Japan has always made little distinction between 'fine art' and 'decorative art', as the West has done since the Renaissance, it is important to note Japan's significant and unique contributions to the fields of art in entertainment, commercial uses, and graphic design. Cartoons imported from America led to anime that at first were derived exclusively from manga stories

>>60277310
Even in the hard sciences Wikipedia falls short of objective accuracy. I was reading the article on CPR on the English wiki and it claimed that performing CPR will most likely break the sternum or rib bones, when that is actually not true at all.

There is definitely an inherent issue in the relaying of information. It will always be a game of telephone, the data that makes up the information will always be altered in some form from audience to audience.

>>60278626
you're my favorite frog-poster

The uruguayan banking crisis article still insists after all these years that it was caused by people withdrawing their accounts and not by the banks that fucked off before people could even do it. I call complete bullshit on this left-wing bias.

>>60278626
>implying you wouldn't catch it as you implemented it in any given language

>>60278488
>the whiteknight instantly resorts to "lol ur a virgem"

Like clockwork

>>60278649
I wouldn't say that CPR is hard science, it's a standard. And it has changed from time to time.
>it claimed that performing CPR will most likely break the sternum or rib bones
I don't see this one the page, it says that's one injury it can cause and that it's the most common cpr related injury with some stats and citation.

>>60278649
I was taught in the boy scouts by a first responder that breaking the ribs is expected when properly doing CPR. Do you have a source that says it's not true?

>>60276480
>propaganda
Show me one example, or stfu.

>>60277176
100% bullshit.

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>>60275712
>What should it do to cure its cancer?
Eat fresh vegetables like Steve Jobs did.

>>60278752
You forget where you are?

>>60278556
But it's the principle of the matter. Wikipedia is not secure, there is no accountability for the authors that do edit articles with bias and spread misinformation on controversial topics.

Wikipedia is claimed to be (and sometime proclaims) the largest repository of human knowledge that has ever existed. Any topic of interest can be "researched" in fractions of a second.

The implication that anyone with any agenda can edit that devalues the entity. It no longer can be used for objectivity and truth (which is exactly what it stands for in principle). There is no more truth when it can be covered in lies.

So yes, you can read about geometric normals and vector fields with a degree of accuracy, but what does that say for the historical facts that are swept under the rug and ignored? What happens when I want to form an opinion on something and all I'm fed is biased information? It's antithetical to what Wikipedia stands for.

>>60278722
Not him but I believe that's a thing they used to and maybe still do tell amateurs in training since the bigger risk is them not pressing hard enough and ribs heal. A better trained person won't need to break ribs most o the time.

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>>60278757

>>60278673

The modern left is too busy with feminism, transgenderism and _cultural_ marxism in general to worry about little things like bankers owning the world.

>>60278718
I agree that CPR isn't a hard science but it is nonetheless practical and material information, very similar to hard science. I also forgot to include in my post was that it was misinterpretation of the source material. This could happen in any circumstance, including one about physics, chemistry, or mathematics, a minor misinterpretation can overturn the entire validity of the article.

>>60278784
>he thinks this is about sex and not his stupidity
You're really obsessed with this failure of yours, aren't you?

>>60277129
>doesn't real
go away Juan

>>60278802
>too busy to worry about little things like bankers owning the world
I find that, at least here, that describes the right-wing better. While the country was completely crashing and burning, they were off fucking everything up, making our president go to Argentina to publicly ask for forgiveness for an off-comment, and doing literally everything instead of fixing what they fucked up by trusting on bankers.

>>60278833
That's why started projecting your sexual frustrations on an internet stranger in the first place? right? right.

>>60278850
You left it hanging out there, so I called you on it.

>>60278722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXsJnLN3i8M

It's practically a myth.

>>60278884
Not even the same guy you replied to, just pointing out your glaring insecurities. better luck next time.

>>60278833
You mean your stupidity for valiantly defending fair maidens against any criticism on the internet for nothing in return?

>>60278846

Do you know the tale about the elephant and the blind men?

The left is trapped in their countercultural obsession and the cuckservatives and libertardians in the "free" market meme.

>>60278649
>and it claimed that performing CPR will most likely break the sternum or rib bones, when that is actually not true at all.
It actually is kinda true. "Most likely" is a bit of an exaggeration, but it definitely happens.

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>>60278833
>how dare you criticise a woman, bet ur a virgem!!
>lol he thinks this is about sex

>>60278908
No, your stupidity for thinking that there are maidens on /g/ to defend.
This is about you. It is fucking annoying watching you wizards sit here and create fantastic tales about others to use as excuses for the state of your sad little lives.

>>60277562
PURE IDEOLOGY

>>60278944
If preformed incorrectly you dingus. Cite your fucking sources if you know so much about resuscitation.

>>60278934
>The left is trapped in their countercultural obsession
No, that's the retarded liberals, not the leftists
>and the cuckservatives and libertardians in the "free" market meme
No, that's the retarded ancaps, not the cuckservatives.

>>60278535
>implying social darwinism is even remotely credible
kek 6th grader spotted

>>60277112
Who gives a shit?

Oh right, you're a drooling /v/edditor manchild

>needs more money because it has trouble hosting
>uses apache

if they switched to nginx they could host probably 100 times their traffic

>>60279044
t. drooling wikipedia manchild

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>>60277112
>>60277232
>>60277588
>>60277644
>>60277785
>>60277813

>/g/

>>60278746
Read the talk page for Liancourt Rocks/Takeshima Islands/Dokdo Islands:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Liancourt_Rocks/Archive_3#Important_Information_About_Dokdo

Literally just a fight between Koreans and Japanese. Also read any article about Japan and mysteriously anything that Japan has ever invented or any part of Japanese culture is actually Korean or Chinese, despite Chinese or Koreans just creating their 'ancient' cultural whatever in the last 20 years modeled directly off of the Japanese thing. It's just propaganda for the Korean and Chinese governments at this point who employ people to just constantly edit articles for them.

Examples: Sushi, Karate, and many many others.

>>60275724
This. Anons this were not wiki mods or constant contributors prior to Gamergate don't understand how much politics goes down behind the scenes on wiki pages or determines what that wiki keeps and deletes as topics

>>60278488
It's definitely possible, but there's probably truth from both sides.

It's common knowledge that most professional reviews are sponsored in some shape or form and it's common knowledge that connections get you places, services and things and that some women use sex to get what they want from men. Well, perhaps this knowledge isn't as common as I think it is, but these things do exist. I would say for a known promiscuous woman who does nude photo shoots, has an eccentric body image, low self-esteem and presumably low to no morals who has been caught lying, who released a very poor game that got rave reviews by someone who had a personal relationship, I'd say that it is extremely likely that the ex boyfriend's account is truthful, give or take some personal biases that may have flared as the desire for revenge was high.

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>>60279392
kek

>>60276879
LOL

>>60275946
And that is the reason why I stopped contributing. The management and the raging editors are the direct descendants of the mob that burned the library of Alexandria.

>>60278499
You mean they have objectives they strive to fulfill? Like any normal person does?

>>60279647
Objectives like pushing a leftist agenda/viewpoint

Problem is not everyone is a leftist and agrees with them

>>60279011
>implying it's not credible
kek amerifat spotted

>>60278956
Nice projection

If there aren't any maidens on /g/ why did you enact such a passionate defence of their honor when someone questioned it? And you dare call someone else stupid, fucking hell

>b-b-but ur a virgem!!!

>>60279683
>leftist agenda/viewpoint
Shouldn't it be specified as "leftist agenda"? If you just say "agenda" can't it also mean right wing agenda?
Sorry, english is not my main language.

>Be famous star
>Read my Wikipedia page
>"Goy Goyinson went to Oxford University"
>Know this is wrong as I went to Uxford University
>Edit it to fix this issue
>Admin comes along and reverts change "I am an expert on Goy Goyinson, all the books agree he went to Oxford"
>Edit it back explaining politely that I am Goy Goyinson and I know where I went to school
>Get banned, article gets reverted and stays that way

Welcome to Wikipedia where an "expert" is more important than the truth.

>>60277396
If I control the food supply and have robots why the fuck am I giving any of it to you to do nothing but jerk off in the corner?

>>60279890
because you do not control the food
mathematical models that optimize distributions without wasting energy or resources while still distributing enough for people to live comfortably and at the same time being sustainable for the future does

>>60279772
>If you just say "agenda" can't it also mean right wing agenda?
Yes, it can mean any agenda if you don't specify, but this thread is about Wikipedia and most people know that a lot of it's editors support leftism

>>60279876
Welcome to /g/, where retards think that historiography is done through opinions of random people and no one has ever heard the word "sources".

>>60277849
Trump is left. He's promoting female empowerment and equality. Neither of which are right wing ideas. You have to understand liberalism dominates the West to such a degree that it's impossible for anything right to exist at the moment. As the utopian Liberal ideas prove false (Education > biology basically) we will see liberalism die as it already is. But at base value, not a single active Western politician with a career is right wing, that's why you confuse "right wing" with "the other side of the left wing coin"

>>60279982
Biologically you should be exterminated with the rest of the NEETs on this board.

>>60279956
He's saying that if "credible" sources publish objectively false information, the primary source is not allowed to correct it on Wikipedia.

>>60280035
How is wikipedia supposed to know if it's truly the primary source? Make a blog post or tweet or something and cite it.

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>>60275712
Left-wing activists made it their playground and infiltrated the moderation teams. That's the problem with leftists, they can never just do their fucking job, they have to be activists and further their political agenda in whatever they do. They've read "1984" and understood it as a manual.

>>60279956
Welcome to /g/ where retards don't understand that sources can be inaccurate and it's incredibly easy to paint a narrative of lies as we see daily in the news. Wikipedia takes the news over first hand evidence if the first hand evidence isn't published by a small set of websites they pre-agreed on being accurate. If the accurate websites all hate Goy Goyinson and only publish inaccurate things about him then Goy has no way to correct it, no matter how true or false any of it is.

>>60279929
I own the distribution mechanism, I own the robots who make the food, I own the factories who prepare the food. Now convince me to feed you. And don't go "muh civil uprising" because I have an army of robots, I don't even care if you live or die and you didn't get the normies to up rise and produce shit because that's never happening.

>>60280035
He didn't say anything about actually identifying himself as the primary source to the editors. He can be the dude the article is about himself, for all I care. If nobody knows that he actually is, it doesn't give him any authority.

>>60279876
>commit major fraud
>get caught
>years later edit my wiki because "I never did that"

>>60279948
>most people know that a lot of it's editors support leftism
Had no fucking idea.

>>60280073
>If the accurate websites all hate Goy Goyinson and only publish inaccurate things about him then Goy has no way to correct it, no matter how true or false any of it is.
It's much more likely Goy Goyinson is a liar.

>>60280073
no, you do not own them.

>>60280106
Not true, did you miss the media campaign about Trump? Lets say you're Trump and your wikipedia article is based on the media running up to the election. How accurate do you think that article is?

>>60280126
>I bought these robots
>I own the entire system they work on
>I will defend my robot minions with my army of robots carrying assault rifles

Tell me again how I don't own them commie. As long as I possess the object and am able to defend it then I own it. I will defend it, I will kill any dirty commie who tries to take it and I will give food only to those I like. Now convince me to keep you alive.

>>60280065
Can't cite Twitter or Blogs, and they specifically warn against the use of primary sources anywhere.

>>60280078
>Edit it back explaining politely that I am Goy Goyinson and I know where I went to school
>explaining politely that I am Goy Goyinson
>I am Goy Goyinson

>didn't say anything about actually identifying himself

I can see you did well in school.

>>60280129
>trump
>not a liar

>>60280153
you would be as irrelevant as any homeless person is now, except you would not be homeless, you would be living comfortably like everyone else.

>>60280162
"I am a classmate of the King of China. Dude, believe me, because I say so."

No.

A source needs to be verifiable.

>>60280162
>people have never lied about credentials
I've seen articles where they mention the other guy's side of the story, "A denies having gone to blah blah" but giving people carte blanche to edit information about them is retarded.

>>60279956
Issue is people believe sources that are not credible over other sources.

Simple example:
One guy fucked with the biography of his friend (a researcher who just got famous) on wikipedia, media took wikipedia as the source as the researcher got famous and reported on him with the fake nonsense the friend wrote into wikipedia. Dude tried to fix it later but couldn't cause wikipedia was pointing at the "credible media sources" that copied from them as the source and never fixed it.

Outside of that there is a simple rule with it:
If it's related to politcal/religious it's garbage.The only exception is obscure shit with no attention. Outside of that math&co articles are pretty legit.

>>60277539
kys

>>60280211
That's not how reality works, but enjoy your sonic fanfiction. I'm sure when you're not needed by the elites they will totally keep you alive to continue to make it.

>>60280215
>>60280235
Guess someone's pissing the entire point of the conversation. The best sources cannot edit wikipedia, it has to be 3rd hand knowledge. First hand source > published work > Normy reading said work. This makes it incredibly easy for poor information to be put up there. And the normie has more time to defend it than Goy Goyinson the best scientist in the world does. So Goy can't make wikipedia a good source because wikipedia is slanted against him. It drags everything down to attrition, which is going to be won by severe autism and petty people not smart people.

>>60280305
>One guy fucked with the biography of his friend (a researcher who just got famous) on wikipedia, media took wikipedia as the source as the researcher got famous and reported on him with the fake nonsense the friend wrote into wikipedia. Dude tried to fix it later but couldn't cause wikipedia was pointing at the "credible media sources" that copied from them as the source and never fixed it.
name?

>>60277396
>>60279929
Distribution models that compensate for unequal usage by certain professions (a man who does hard labor needs more food than a programmer) will by necessity have to include arbitrary values.

Is it fair for a programmer to receive less food for his work even if it is far more mentally strenuous versus physical labor? How do you prevent the programmer on the ground from thinking that way as well? How do you also plan on distributing luxury items, if I want a bicycle but my neighbor does not do we both get bicycles or neither of us? Then there is compensating for personal production such as home carpentry.

>>60280335
>The best sources cannot edit wikipedia
Sure he can, if he puts himself out there. Make a statement to the press or self-publish, both with added credentials that are verifiable.

If he doesn't, then he is legitimately regarded less.

Also, as the ultima ratio, I'm sure there's someone he can sue.

>>60280335
Bingo, like that autistic communist weeaboo jew Ryulong. Was an admin, 57th in total edits, and was up to 0.02% of all Wikipedia edits before he got banned for taking money from feminists.

Here's a good quote from his blog:
>I took the Inner Dragon online quiz and found out I am a Copper Dragon on the inside. My Inner Dragon is the mighty warrior of dragon-kind. It's just that simple. Coppers show up when someone's about to die. Coppers don't mess around, and they don't play evil games like Red Dragons. They don't bother with magic, like Gold Dragons. They exist for a purpose, and they serve it well.
>But what sort of a dragon would I be if that really was the whole story? I also like to stomp my enemies, start the occasional war, and spend lazy hours preening my battle aura. My favorable attributes are strength, physical abilities, thriftiness, warmth, and longevity in battle. Just in case some puny human (or conniving Red Dragon) thinks they can get the drop on me, I've got a concealed breath weapon - gigantic masses of Fire. Hey, it's the tried and true way to cook a cow in 0.75 seconds.

This is who edits, and more importantly, Administrates, wikipedia.

>>60276939
>Class D amplifier propaganda
Could you (or anyone) explain what this means? I can find nothing by that name.

>>60280374
why would they receive too little or too much food, they could have what as long as people are not throwing away tons of uneaten food every year there is enough for people to not go around hungry

I do not believe everything should be shared and nothing owned, but at the same time some things stand unused most of the time, and could be replaced with a sharing system

non-personal stuff like bicycles could for a large part be on a lending-system with parking stations distributed across areas, people who bicycle more than just once in a while could probably have their own.

Computer-parts are harder to share because of privacy concerns, but throwing away fairly recent stuff every year to upgrade is unnecessary and wasteful (though upgrading is still reasonable). Centralized computing is problematic from privacy concerns too but might work for some workloads

cars are really wasteful and there should be some transportation system to phase out at least a portion of them

less commercial stuff made of cheap plastic that breaks after a year only to be replaced by more cheap stuff, most of it ending up unrecycled in the trash

stuff like that

>>60277771
>Most of science is dependent on the verbum, i.e. stuff other people wrote that you have to trust in to a certain extent.
Given the actions on Retraction Watch and the much published failures in reproducing allegedly important milestone findings this trust is being eroded pretty quickly.

"Nullius in verba" is more important than ever before.

>>60280504
This Ryulong guy needs to get off the internet for awhile.

Unfortunately, these are the type of people that possess the necessary autism to control the narrative at Wikipedia

>>60280634
>this trust is being eroded pretty quickly.
And yet it is necessary and unavoidable.

>Given the actions on Retraction Watch and the much published failures in reproducing allegedly important milestone findings
Why would they impact someone who distrust other people's claims, if that finding itself is from someone else, whom he also distrusts?

>>60278188
>A more in depth section on the greeks would just be redudant since there's pages for that.
You can rund that argument against the larger sections too - if you want it balanced and consistent.

>>60278285
Reversion within minutes, I would think.

Things like that is why I quit Wikipedia.

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>>60275724
>>60276002
Is there any actual evidence that Wikipedia has been hijacked by left wing activists or censors things the admins dislike, or am I just supposed to take the word of someone on an anonymous imageboard?

>>60280595
>bicycles are non-personal
Confirmed for never owning a bicycle

Do you think there are no privacy concerns with having centralized distribution for transportation? If you can track where everyone goes, you can usually track what they're doing.

It seems what you're concerned about is simply low quality cheap goods that are a result of seeking the lowest prices possible. This is only allowed by globalist practices that artificially expand the labor market.

When a product requires paying a citizen 3x min wage (typical factory job) an hour to make, cutting costs by 1c per product won't increase your margins enough. When you're paying Ling Ling the 14 year old Chinese teen to make it for for 50 cents an hour, suddenly cutting 1c per product makes a hell of alot more on margins percentage wise.

>>60279876
>>60280035
>>60280073
>>60280078
>>60280162
Welcome to the world of sources and citations. If a book publishes wrong information about you, you either ask them to correct or issue an official statement; you can't go to a library, take all the copies of that book and scribble with a marker over the false information.

Either Goy properly issues a public statement or he identifies himself properly. Any idiot could say "I'm Goy. I actually went to F.A.G. University in Andorra and fuck dogs in my spare time" according to you.

>b-but sources can lie and manipulate
Yeah, so? What's your solution? Abolish encyclopedias and base all of our knowledge in unverifiable anonymous posts from an anime forum?

>>60280779
All copies of a book can't be edited instantly, distribution is the limiting factor there.

>>60280709
Isn't he gone?

>>60280779
Sources and citations which are poorly balanced in the case of wikipedia.

Lets say I run a new wiki and I only allow Buzzfeed, Jezebel and Huffington post. What do you think my wiki would look like? Now you see the problem. Even if Goy identifies himself on his own website or on social media he still needs a credibly source which are anti-Goy and won't publish anything but hit pieces on him. They want to paint him as an uber rich asshole when he's actually pretty poor. Uxford is a poor college, Oxford is a rich college. What incentive does the acceptable media have to give the truth out there if it hurts their agenda to help Goy?

>>60280709
>>60280826
He got banned but still edits RationalWiki

>>60277788
>I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I'M OLDER THAN YOU

>>60280803
>>60280852
So, your entire argument is "X *could* happen, therefore Wikipedia is evil".

>>60280852
>Sources and citations which are poorly balanced in the case of wikipedia
Are they poorly balanced or are you just buttmad that they don't consider cherry-picked facts from right-wing circle jerks to be the only word on a subject?

Has any of you guys downloaded wikipedia? In case of emergency when internet gets fucked.

>>60280918
What an excellent argument you have there. You completely ignore the argument and just go for an insult instead.

>>60280346
would've written it initially if i would remember.

It was just an article i read from the guys perspective who added the fake story about his researcher friend and then couldn't fix it because wikipedia pointed at the media and the media never made it public that they merely copied it from wikipedia where that dude added his fake story.

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>>60280937
No, anime is more important than the combined knowledge of all of humanity.

>>60280215
>A source needs to be verifiable.
Howe about this for a creeptastic approach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nastassja_Kinski
>You are all wrong -- I posted the 1959 year of birth at IMDb for Nastassja Kinski for the very simple reason that I know it is correct. I used to work for the U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Service and like most of its employees I did look up the odd celebrity or such here and there (more than most pbly) -- the year IS 1959!!! As far as IMDb not being omniscient this is absolutely true and I am worshipping no false idols here!! 216.194.4.43 09:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedians are happy to use federal resources to violate any privacy to get facts and then brag about it. Why care about the law?

There are other cases too.

>>60280893
Name the last good American President

Trump? Nah
Obama? Hell no
Bush? Did 9/11
Clinton? Garbage
Bush? No

>>60280996
Your entire argument is "they only take stuff from sources I don't like" without providing proof.

I still haven't seen an article were a verifiable, reputable source has been deleted because a mod doesn't like the content. I've seen, however, a racist asshole whining because they edited out his debunked 1900's "study" that claimed "niggers" have a 74 point IQ and are therefore mentally retarded.

>>60280777
I imagined anyone could anonymously grab a car or bicycle, possibly in the case of the car just showing an unassociated license to confirm that they in fact can drive.

The bicycles and cars would probably have to be tracked, but the people driving them not so much.

>>60280937
I have a few version from 2009-2013 (only latest revisions, no talk pages), they are abouts 7-14GB each compressed.

>>60275712

Make a sjw test and fire everyone who fails it. Every company out there hires those gender study majors and other bullshit degrees on the cheap and ends up with politics they didnt want.

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>alt-right article
>mentions richard spencer in the third line

>>60280907
X has happened, therefore wikipedia is evil

>>60280734
>>this trust is being eroded pretty quickly.
>And yet it is necessary and unavoidable.
No. The thing is that one trusts single sources. In the absence of reproducible tests this is what happens. Thus it is neither necessary nor unavoidable but it does take time and money to verify. And that is sorely needed.

>>Given the actions on Retraction Watch and the much published failures in reproducing allegedly important milestone findings
>Why would they impact someone who distrust other people's claims, if that finding itself is from someone else, whom he also distrusts?
I gave it a try but really that sentence should be taken out the back and shot. Please restate.

What is happening now is that a whole lot of work is being undertaken to "walk back the cat" to undo the results of scientific misconduct. A large number of people trusted Schoen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6n_scandal
And it took a lot of work to untangle this mess. And this problem has not stopped, Retraction Watch is kept busy with new cases. And universities do not want to look into this due to moral hazards wrt. publishing counts and reference counts.

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>>60281071
Tracking the transport tracks the person inside

>>60278982
Source: my mentor is a paramedic with at least a decade of experience

>>60281160
Good thing Wayland exists then

>>60280535
It's an electronic amplifier type. As with any engineering subject the results can be quantified and there are situations where you might want to use class D amplifiers.

I was making a joke about the Wiki propaganda. Because you need to think outside the tesseract to further your political agenda in engineering topics.

>>60281184
>I gave it a try but really that sentence should be taken out the back and shot. Please restate.
The hyper-skeptical scientist doesn't trust other people's findings - mere verba. He only trusts his own findings.
Then, along come some other people with a finding: Reproductions in key studies of field X failed.

Why would that finding matter to the hyper-skeptic, if he doesn't trust what other people find? He didn't do those reproductions himself. Whether positive or negative, they're mere verba to him and he gives fucks in nullii, so it is simply irrelevant to him that others found out that the key reproductions failed.

Our teachers always warned us about the inaccuracies on articles at wikipedia and the rest of the internet, it is not like nobody tried to warn us before internet became mainstream.

>>60277112
What about the Brianna Wu article? There's no mention of him being trans and it's extended-confirmed protected.

>>60281473
They count that as against NPOV

>>60281570
If you agree with transexuals or not you have to admit that not mentioning that the "most iconic woman in gaming" is a tranny is not neutral. Neutral is saying that It was born male and letting people decide what they want from there. But that isn't what is happening here and it's an extremely left wing idea to consider trannies to be anything but fucked in the head.

>>60282212
but anon the best programmers are boys who dress like girls

>>60275712
No.

>>60278315

> Weasel words

utterly disgusting

>>60280197
>>60280106
you must be the kind of retard who thinks the stuff played on CNN is based in reality

>>60281061
Male genital mutilation, aka circumcision. That article was, and probably still is, a load of shit written by some fag who paid to have someone mutilate his dick as an adult. It was written almost completely pro-mutilation and it wouldn't be surprising if the article is still trying to claim that genital mutilation is a good thing.

>>60275712
Wikipedia has more internal politics than a liberal arts college's faculty assembly. The fact that they're even able to publish articles in the first place is a fucking miracle. They care more about stroking each other's egos than making Wikipedia a good source of information.

Wikipedia should die. I don't think it's worth saving in its current form. If someone wants to build a successor, go for it. But don't just adapt the old site. Build something new and amazing. (Or, at the very least, build another Encarta.)

is there any wikiclone that doesn't have fag mods and corrupt admins?

Wikipedia used to be cool since anyone could alter an article, now Wikipedia is the leading brand for censorship on the net

>>60275712
>Is wikipedia dying?
no
>What should it do to cure its cancer?
donate less
at least that's what I'll do after donating 3 years in a row

I love 'em and all and I have no idea what I'd do without wiki but 50% increase in spending in 3 years with just about no change in service is idiotic
well ok, they did improve the android app quite a bit in the last 3-4 years, but not ~$40m worth

>>60276028

/pol/ plz go back to your containment board.

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Go back to /pol/, Stormfags.

>>60276784
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>>60277727

Anon isn't wrong. 4chan is definitely on a lot of political radars right now. You will see how horrible shit will get soon enough.

>>60278245
GGRevolt's remnants have a bottomless well of autism and time. They've successfully driven away every single information node that didn't push /pol/ politics and have their own autists inserted into the KotakuInAction moderation staff. They're doing everything they possibly can to turn GamerGate into the ultra conservative bogeyman that media outlets painted it as.

Just a glance at KotakuInAction shows they've just about succeeded. It's The_Donald Jr. at this point.

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>>60284351
GG is a shambling corpse at this point anyways, IA knew when to bail on it.

>>60284730
Yeah but IA left for different reasons. I'm retrospect I regret having followed IA's boycott. From what I heard, that was part of the reason a number of brands that later pulled out of YouTube did so - because they were so afraid of controversy hitting their brands that they went to avoid it everywhere.

Turns out actions to punish the speech of some people create precedents that can be used to justify punishing your own speech. Who knew?

>>60284990
Except IA was never affected by that at all, he doesn't monetize his videos, hell he only started taking patreonbux recently in exchange for a regular video schedule. Rumor is he's only doing that because of a chronic health problem.

>>60285023

The advertiser boycott wasn't for specific YouTubers. It was for specific themes. It hit plenty of good YouTubers that aren't IA.

>>60285067
Yeah and it only hit people who were dumb enough to rely on ad revenue

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>>60284351
>i dont agree therefore FUCK OFF XDD

I have read this thread and still don't know how is it supposed to be duying other than muh cultural marxism boogeyman.

>>60285147
Did you miss where it also won't say the Earth is flat? How could it possibly be neutral if it doesn't reinforce my beliefs?

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>>60285147
Just read any article on a humanities subject.

>>60275724
Can we donate money on the condition they fix this? Maybe make changes to blockchain to be more tamper resistant?

>>60285228
like what

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>>60285255
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

Second paragraph right off the bat they start going on John Money, who's work has been wholly discredited as not being reflective of reality. His study on David Reimer was the key basis of his work, and yet Money falsely stated that the sexual reassignment that David underwent was successful, when it wasn't in the slightest, with David later returning to identifying as a boy rapidly once Money's influence was removed. The Reimer twins later committed suicide over the acts that Money forced them into over the course of his study. Including shit like making them mock play sex, "genital inspections", and photographing them while naked.

Thats the sick bastard who came up with all these theories that they rely on now for "gender is learned", and not once on the wiki page for Gender is Reimer mentioned despite his case being the key example Money used to support his hypothesis. But sure they hold Money up into he article and purport his bullshit, and the mound built ontop his bullshit, as being an accurate reflection of reality.

>>60275712
Pick a date, print all entries to low acid paper.
Send to library of congress, digital copy to archive.org
Start over..

>>60285489
Feminists have been saying gender is social much before this guy came in. Go hit the library and read some Beauvoir, kiddo. I don't even necessarily disagree with them and their perspective on the topic you're talking about (some even say David Reimer "developed" his gender identity when he was like 1 year old) but if you want to attack them you need to know your way around it, not act like some /pol/tard who just discovered capital T truth through some copypasta on 4chan.

>>60285982
I mean, I don't even necessarily agree*

>>60275712
wikipedia only expands
dying .. pffft.

>>60280068
i started a new article, large & have been left alone / helped with syntactical corrections

you only get into trouble if you walk in and start mauling with established things

contribute largely and you are left alone

>>60280068
wikipedia people are watchful/protectful
walk in like a bull in china shop and you won't get on.. then you arrive @ places like this thread saying wikipedia is unfair

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An image estimating the size of a printed version of Wikipedia as of August 2010. (Up-to-date image using volumes of Encyclopædia Britannica)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_of_Wikipedia

>>60286158
there'll come a time when wikipedia starts to challenge academic thought. because academic thougth is closed, narrow

>>60286313
Whatever happened to dangerous academics? :/

They are all now pussies looking for tenure.

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>>60286975
LMAO

Right-wingers edit Wikipedia articles and then screenshot them to attempt false-flags

Kill yourself

>>60277112
t. guy who has never read a single book by Adorno in his life

>>60286237
And somewhere in there is a synopsis of every single Kamen Rider episode.

>>60286953

Don't fucking care, /pol/. Go back to your containment board.

>>60282850
www.lurkmore.com but obviously it's not trying to be an encyclopedia with nobody editing it

>>60275712
How does the most used encyclopedia in the world, die?

>>60275712
It's a tool of the status quo and an ideological fuck fest. If you're a alt right or a sjw you're just a tool. See this and focus on surviving despite the ideologies that line the pockets of the rich. The rich profit when the have-nots are divided and focused on hating each other and don't see the hands in their pockets.

How much do you work for rent? I rest my case.

>>60280774
There was a post a while ago about how Brianna Wu put up a bunch of bullshit about college and work on her page and the admins let it slide without any sources.

>>60289200
Brett Wu*

>>60289200
Well why didn't someone edit it out?

>>60277562
>All ideologies are retarded

Good luck not being a victim of ideology.

>>60289232
Because the admins will revert it, talk shit about you on your talk page, and ban you from editing.

>>60287619
How is this somthing /pol would post? It's hard evidence of his claim, not "HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG" or "1488 GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW". MAybe you shouldn't be such a stupid Antifag and call everything you don't like from /pol/

>>60287416
>Right-wingers edit Wikipedia articles and then screenshot them to attempt false-flags
[citation needed]

>>60275712
There's an article about the starb*cks unicorn coffee...

>>60287416
When you state something, it is upto the stater of that claim to provide replicatable evidence that upholds to scrutiny.

>>60277129
>Doesn't real.
Rust cultural marxist detected

>>60275712
I think it's really insular and all the editors there have massive egos. I started editing on everipedia instead, and the founders even participated in a comment thread for a page I was working on with more relevant info. Basically they're not left wing insecure cucks

>>60277849
He was a Democrat for about 20+ years before he ran for office, was a major contributor to Chuck Shumer and he gives no shits about social issues that hardline evangelicals (and hardline progressives) froth to have an opinion about. What do you think?

biggest problem is retard power tripping losers who control most of the articles. You can barely edit most major articles now, and if you do the changes will probably be instantly reverted by some autistic power user who spends all day correcting his favourite articles.

>left leftist retards inject their cancer into wikipedia
>wonder why its crashing and burning
Gee..