Nothing beats a pure UNIX ecosystem

>>60272371
XD

>>60272371
post one then

>>60272371
Macintosh isn't UNIX, though.

at being shitty and android is pretty shitty.

toss those headphones and watch in the trash

>>60272371
Where the h*ck did you get an all black macbook pro?

>>60272383
It's certified UNIX but it is not a UNIX descendant

>>60272383
https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3627.htm

>>60272371
UNIX is just a placebo certificate, it sells for money. Also
>a pure UNIX ecosystem
>turns out to be complete fisher price trash, just like the certificate
Really made me think

>>60272405
It uses BSD, which is real actual UNIX.

>>60272420
Sure, just like how Android is a real Linux

>>60272432
Android uses the actual Linux kernel and is distributed with standard GNU user land tools. It is a Linux distro.

Linux, unlike BSD, however, is not UNIX.

>>60272432
Android is actually Linux, idiot

>>60272383
This. macOS takes a wet, steaming, heaping, ebola-infected shit on the Unix philosophy. They just paid for a purely titular status.

>>60272503
It has a complete BSD user land and even a pretty great third-party package manager. It is UNIX.

>>60272383
macOS is fucking CERTIFIED UNIX, you retard. Linux, on the other hand... kek... is not.

>>60272503
Unix was literally designed to be extended by licensees - the fucking marketing model depended on shitting on the Unix philosophy.

The entire reason the Unix philosophy is the way it is comes from the fact it was a bootstrap operating system companies like HP and DEC could heavily modify and sell.

>>60272469
explain.

>>60272503
You really couldn't know less about this if you tried, could you?

>>60272469
android is a retarded bastard child of gnu/linux thats chained up in the basement

>>60272420
The BSD's of today barely qualify as actual genetic UNIX descendants...

All identifiable AT&T UNIX code has long since been removed and whatever left hacked into oblivion over the years.

>>60272463
Android removed the GNU userland tools and uses non-GNU userlands don't they?

This was to limit google's future sharing advances with GNU.

>>60272624
This is where the GNU/Linux distinction is actually practical and is more than just theory.

Android runs on a Linux kernel. Therefore, it is a Linux OS.

That said, not in the same family of OSs as Debian, Arch, etc, which are all GNU/Linux.

>>60272553
Why would you mention Linux is not Unix? It's pretty obvious. Linux was built from scratch. It is, however, very unix-like.

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This is the only truth.

>>60272543
>third-party
>supposed BSD lineage that was then left to just sit there while they bolt on to it their own smooth brain tier paradigms to

>>60272553
>on the other hand... kek... is not
>... kek...
18+

>>60272645
Not an argument, Tim.

>>60272598
There's shitting on it in a way that makes sense and then there's frankensteining it into something that you need to pay someone just to convince people that it's still Unix in some meaningful way.

>>60272657
For what is worth, FreeBSD is goat if you have hardware that supports it, and the time to configure what would have taken maybe and 30 minutes to an hour on GNU/Linux but will now take you maybe four if you're lucky. Once you've got it all set up there are literally no gotchas or random, annoying bugs and crashes, such as you see on most GNU/Linux installations with a GUI when you're a few days in.

>>60272371
itt: retards defend their affinity for vape, window managers, and byzantine configuration in an effort to control damage against the single best unix or unix-like operating system for desktop environments

>>60272371
Yeah but without the watch.

>>60272463
Depends on the distro. There are Unix certified Linux distros. Ergo Linux can be Unix.
If we're really being pedantic. GNU's not Unix, and also X is not UNIX.

>iPhone
>MacBook
>AirPort Express
>iPad
>Apple TV
>Apple Watch
>AirPods
>iCloud
>iWork suite
>other Apple applications
>all of these devices and services communicating and cooperating seamlessly

Apple product ecosystem is just too good.

>>60273307
>that entire list of shit
>mmmm its so good
>please feed me more of that shit
>i love eating shit
You.

>m-muh piece of paper
No one cares.

>>60272553
Objectively false, some distros with the mainline kernel have the certification.

Keep being proud of your patchwork of 3 kernels stapled together (because God forbid Apple would develop something from scratch), while distros use a single Kernel, and the one most used in critical systems.

>>60273372
>that entire list of shit
You mistook it for a list of Poogle products.

>>60273427
Apple is basically Google.

>>60272371
stop being gay

even rob "muh unix philosophy" pike uses a mac

iOS, a Unix ecosystem that you can't run shell scripts on. Soooooooo useful.

I'll prefer my Android and Desktop Linux ecosystem, thank you very much. They may not have the official title of Unix from the OpenGroup, but they are both more usable as Unixes.

>>60272782
Why is Linux in there?

Actually wait, iOS isn't actually Unix.

https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/

Only OS X is.

>>60273614
Because it is Unix-like.
It isn't a direct relation to Unix but it has an indirect relation.

>>60273617
>The UNIX 03 Product Standard is a precisely defined and documented set of functionality to which products can be certified. It provides a mapping between certification, the specifications, and the test suites needed to demonstrate conformance.
It is a conformance test, nothing more.
If Linux passed certification it would gain an equal standard while not being Unix.

>>60273307

>Garbage that spontaneously combusts and has no headphone port.
>Garbage that dents easily.
>Useless garbage.
>Locked down garbage in a form factor for things that shouldn't be locked down.
>More useless garbage.
>Completely useless garbage (in 2017, watches are basically jewelry. We can use our fucking phones to tell time).
>Garbage that makes you look like an idiot.
>Garbage that is ruining the industry (we need less "cloud" nonsense)
>Garbage that can't compete with Microsoft Office
>Garbage that nobody cares about unless it's Final Cut Pro

It's all garbage.

>>60272399
It's a dbag skin

>XNU is not UNIX

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>>60272405
>>60272553
Certified UNIX doesn't mean shit.

>>60273208
>>60273617
iOS is based on macOS, and watchOS on iOS, so while neither is officially certified, they have the same Mach/BSD-based core descended from NeXTSTEP.

>macOS has UNIX certification
Yeah, because being certified compatible with a deprecated minicomputer OS from the 70s is hot shit, right?

Linux, as shit as it might be, is the new standard.

>>60272657
Nonetheless, it's still a descendant. That it's evolved out basically all of the original code is kind of beside the point.

>>60274084
Actually it means that the OS is UNIX.

>>60276740
What he's getting at is that something can be UNIX but not work properly.

>>60276826
No shit.

>>60272469
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60276965
There are operating systems that use Linux that aren't "GNU/Linux," Android is one of them.

>>60274078
>XNU is not UNIX
Dis
Literally, apple's kernel is called X is not UNIX

>>60276965
nice copypasta fag

>>60276965
Cool copypasta, bruh

>>60276995
OS X's kernel may stand for "X is not UNIX" but it is UNIX.

>>60276995
And much like GNU's Not Unix, it still implements Unix, even if it isn't "actually" Unix.

>>60277070
But it's not Unix, is like saying that the original Macintosh was XEROX Alto, because it uses a mouse

>>60277035
>source: my dad told me, and he was Steve Jobs' fuckboy

What even is UNIX compliance and how is it relevant to your use as an everyday user?

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>>60277120
https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#Currently_Registered_UNIX_systems

>>60272371

Is that a real macbook? Like you can buy it in that color? Because it looks fucking gorgeous

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>>60277010
>>60277016
First day on /g/, faggots?

>>60277403
They've probably been here for a few weeks.

>>60272383
third post best post

>>60277403
This image really fucks with me for some reason

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>>60272371
>mfw looking at the picture
>tfw poorfag
>probably will never have these
it really hurtrs

>>60272371
>pure