>Steven Chase—creator of the world’s most notorious darknet

>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/creator-of-infamous-playpen-website-sentenced-to-30-years-in-prison/

if the fbi wants you, you'd better be in the middle east or frozen at the top of canada because just using a distro or tor won't save you

>implying windows or osx is more secure
If someone wants to get you they will do it regardless of what technology you use.

>>60256621
Once again going to show we don't need to compromise encryption or increase surveillance to conduct law enforcement. Just need law enforcement doing ground work.

>>60256621
>used malware
Who would be stupid enough to download shit from a CP site?
Apparently those fuckers.

>>60256704
>pedos are fucking dumb
is this news?

>>60256621
I thought traditional FBI investigative methods no longer worked due to military grade encryption?

>>60256735
Tor is full of flaws because of the design of the network and how it routes you and how the US government owns most of the nodes

>>60256704
What else are they going to do on a CP site?

Even if they didn't actively download files there are still ways to get exploits onto computers through the browser, even better when they can do it from the host of the site people are visiting because scripts are more likely to be allowed.

>>60256621
>the feds eventually caught a lucky break and received a tip from a foreign law enforcement agency, which included Chase’s true IP address.
Seems legit.

>>60256723
>>60256704

I knew a guy who got busted with CP.... he was an IT professional and he had it stored on his WORK LAPTOP

i'm no computer genius but how the fuck do you go to college for all that shit, work in the field, and then go out and download CP and save it to your work computer?

he was in his 40's and claims he was innocent but they basically forced him to plead guilty. i don't believe him lol

>>60256755
Shhh.

THANK YOU BASED FBI

>>60256769
Either framed or >>60256723

>>60256744
You can tell it's compromised by the way it is

I'm not trying to be one of those guys who think pedos should die or a pedo apologist but they really should have just given them life sentences, even when they do get out of jail, they'll never hold a job or have friends, so what's the fucking point?

It's honestly cruel to not give them life.

Everyday I am thankful to God that he gave me a MILF fetish

>>60256805
People like that are beaten up and sometimes killed in prison
I think a life of suffering like that would be worse than life outside

>>60256755
Russia probably.

>>60256649
>middle east
they don't need cp
they can do it in real life legally

>>60256649
they got 1500 IPs off of 50,000 connections
good odds on it just being another javascript exploit

>>60256908
The Russian GDP is made of 25% CP.
More likely the NSA.

>>60256849
Can confirm. Dad was in prison. Pedos and child rapists were automatically put in isolation for their own safety.

One guy successfully petitioned to be put in gen pop. They caused a distraction for the guards in another part of the prison, then a few guys started anal raping the pedo, supposedly got like 10 minutes in before a guard was able to respond. Once the game was up, the last guy shanked him in the spinal cord in the neck and kept raping him until his eyes stopped moving.

>>60256945
>look at a combination of colored light emitting diodes
>get anally raped and killed
hmmm

>>60256985
Nah, this wasn't just a CP guy. He was supposedly raping his and his neighbor's daughter for like 5 years.

This is the first time we've made America great again

Also this >>60256698

>>60256985
>implying it's as simple as looking at a combination of colored light emitting diodes

>The statement also touted the fact that as a result of the Playpen bust, hundreds of people in the US have been arrested, dozens more were prosecuted, and 55 American children have been "successfully identified or rescued." More than 500 additional people associated with the site have been arrested overseas.

>>60257037
so only content creators were targeted?

>>60257064

You're increasing the demand by being a consumer.
Fuck all of them.

>>60257087
This

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>>60256621

>>60256621
>The agency then ran the site and used malware for two additional weeks to monitor its users. In a handful of instances since, the government has dropped prosecutions rather than disclose the malware source code it used to discover the true IP addresses of Playpen users.
Lol. Windows REKT

>>60256621
Good thing I don't use JavaShit or download iffy shit while I'm on Tor - or even been on that site for that matter.

I wonder how that foreign agency got the information the did, and what it was.

> LINUX DISTROS
Good thing I use OpenBSD :^)

>>60257064
well of course, you're not a murderer if you run a gore website

but I guess if you like to watch it so much up to the point to make an account in a shady website just to get more, you're probably one step away from being a pedo

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>>60257087
see
>>60256985

>>60257184
Tor is not that secure of a network when the nodes are owned largely by single organizations.

There's lots of attacks to figure out who is sending stuff over the network, but it requires owning lots of nodes.

>>60256985
this. crime neutrality when>

>>60257201
>>60256985

Nah, if all you did was look at CP, you'll probably be recruited by the white nationalists as a vagina.

>>60256735
>FBI investigative methods no longer worked due to military grade encryption?
>feds eventually caught a lucky break and received a tip from a foreign law enforcement agency, which included Chase’s true IP address.
they apparently didnt

>Military Grade Encryption

>>60257250
Encryption doesn't protect you from being a dumbass.

Was probably using a VPN in Russia and got busted through that.

>>60256621
I'll go post this on /b/ and see how the pedophiles defend it. Based police always catch the degenerates.

>>60256698
Please, it was a lucky break.

>>60256945
Real and heterosexual post.

>>60257087
>increasing the demand by being a consumer
the only thing increasing the demand is sexier children

>>60256698
/thread

>>60257321

>215,000 accounts
>convict the owners and only manage to prosecute dozens of users.
>dozens of users.
>215,000 accounts
>Based police always catch the degenerates.

no

>>60257221
this
>ITT: dumbfucks trusting Tor
>literally dev'ed for military and 3-letter agencies
>core developer appelbaum got btfo and ((demoralized)) (just like Assange rape meme)
>project is now run by 3-letter agents
>trusting cloudflare/internet
>cloudflare captcha on anonymous network
majority of tor honeypots requires running of non-free javascript so you'll get owned if you're using defaults.
if I'm correct the infosec pedos are on usenet

>Playpen hosted 215,000 user accounts
fucking amateur hour over here

>>60257390
Don't downplay what happened, they still caught the owner, whom has access to ALL of the material. This means that even many more children can be identified.

>>60257390
Windows 12 confirmed

>>60256621
>YOUR LINUX DISTROS WON'T SAVE YOU.
I use linux because it doesn't have ads or recommend me software. Also I wonder what was so hush hush about the source code of the malware. Sounds cool.

>>60257420
he's already been indicted, tried, and convicted. the investigation is over.
this case is years old, theyve IDed as many children as theyre going to.

also thats not how you use "whom"

>>60257456
>also thats not how you use "whom"

What? Whom is short for "who may"

>>60256621

>wankers getting 30 years of prison

seems fair. not an scapegoat to justify government's mass spionage at all.

>>60257420
It's still a case of only the big fish getting caught.

There are too many pedophiles to catch them all, you take down one site and another pops up and what has really happened at the end of the day?

>>60256769

>forced him to plead guilty
Unless they did so at gunpoint, I wouldn't believe it. If you're not guilty, under no circumstances should you ever plead guilty. There is no way that it could improve your situation.

>>60257483
>what has really happened at the end of the day?

Their morale is diminished, remember Freedom Hosting?

They will be slow and cautious, the police are winning. We need pedophiles to know that they aren't safe to post that shit on the deepweb OR anywhere.

>>60257483
That's a rather defeatist attitude. What is law enforcement supposed to do?

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>>60257475
i have no face

>>60257508
>What is law enforcement supposed to do?
Distribute CP until everyone's sick of it.
Reverse psychology is what they call it.

>>60257507
we need law enforcement resources invested in real crime.

fapping to pixels on a screen is nothing

>>60257475
>Whom is short for "who may"
im at a loss for words

>>60257508
There is really nothing for them to do but keep doing what they're doing.

>>60257507
>the police are winning.
They really aren't though.

all you fucks ITT advocating this shit need professional help. I sincerely hope you seek counseling and aim to overcome this issue

>>60257533
>fapping to pixels on a screen is nothing
Intellectualize the problem all you want

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>The agency then ran the site and used malware for two additional weeks to monitor its users

>>60257539
>im at a loss for words
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/

Dude, calm down, I was just kidding. I'm so fucking happy that you know proper grammar.

>>60257555
kek. that's precisely how i imagine them.

>>60257475
>What? Whom is short for "who may"
the state of neo/g/ everyone
i'm past being upset, i'm curious to see just how much further it's possible to take this

>>60257575
huehue so funny, I made a typo and now you want to ride my cock.

Here, have a ==SAGE==

>>60257539
Mad introvert spotted

>>60257539
>im at a loss for words
How about "whom"?

>>60257564
>https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/

get that weak shit outta here and boss yo life up
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/who_vs_whom

>>60257592
A typo is a error in writing that is unintentional.
If you intentionally use the wrong word, thinking it is the/a correct word to use then you are simply incorrect.

>>60257613
>If you intentionally use the wrong word, thinking it is the/a correct word to use then you are simply incorrect.

okay.

>>60257606
im mostly at a loss because although it sounds like nonsense at face value, who am I to say that's not how it was derived 500 years ago and I'm actually the brainlet

like that "i know i know nothing" guy

>>60257339
kill yourself nigger

>>60257394
What happened to rotor browser?

>>60257184
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>60256621
>The agency then ran the site and used malware for two additional weeks to monitor its users. In a handful of instances since, the government has dropped prosecutions rather than disclose the malware source code it used to discover the true IP addresses of Playpen users.

christ this shit should be illegal
not that i feel bad for these pedos in the slightest but "whoops we broke the law, don't worry we'll drop a few of these cases, really it's nbd"

not to speak of the vast majority of users that i'm sure were identified in court by parallel construction schemes despite having fallen victim to said malware

>/g/ paedos on suicide watch
lmao, nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

>>60257831
>>/g/ paedos on suicide watch
ill break this down for you
>215,000 users
>500 arrests
>100 indictments
>10 convictions
>3 prison sentences

im more fearful tonight is the night I swallow a spider in my sleep

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if the people who were caught had all their shit on an encrypted laptop and only used public wifi (ie, not home connection) they probably would still be out there.

I still think anyone with CP should be killed, but if they had any brains at all they could easily avoid being caught. Server hosting is going to be difficult, but possible if you know what you are doing.

>>60257499
Completely untrue. Stacked evidence against you (even untrue evidence, faked evidence, or planted evidence) only has to convince a jury.

If you are in a situation where you're getting totally fucked over because you're innocent but you given the choice between a plea deal to avoid prison or get sentenced to 20+ (where you WILL be murdered, because retarded inmates think they are somehow moral for killing pedos)

>>60257649
that's a long post there. just admit that you're an introvert m8. no one get's that angry because of a single word misuse.
>>60257692
you mean the windows-only copycat of tor with ascii art website?
>>60257831
except ((they)) or your enemies can implant evidence to ruin your life.
cp is being weaponized. they can easily wipe you off the grid by ((pulling the strings)) (backdoor)

>>60257949
>you mean the windows-only copycat of tor with ascii art website?
yep

>>60257960
didn't it crash? did it ever RC0?

>>60257949
>that's a long post there. just admit that you're an introvert m8
dont get me wrong I am aggressively autistic, thats what brought me here. dont tell me /g/ is filled with fucking normies

>>60256704
The FBI used an NSA-purchased, Zerodium-brokered 0day vulnerability in Firefox ESR as used in the Tor Browser Bundle, which was sent to users who had logged in to the Playpen forum.

The intent was to infect computers running Windows and the Tor Browser Bundle and send a ping to the FBI servers linking their forum ID with their real IP address and other identifying information.

>>60256723
Not particularly. Not all of them are, unfortunately, but they will always be able to get the ones who are, one way or another.

>>60256744
False, false, and false.

(t. I have been involved in the development of anonymous networks for over 20 years)

>>60256698
Agreed. I had heard the admin was found not via technical means but because he made a very stupid OPSEC failure. However, I don't really know.

I fully support the prosecution and conviction of this guy. I really hate these people. If there were a way to get them off networks and still have the networks censorship-resistant, that would be wonderful, but also of course magical and self-contradictorily impossible, that's just me defining the terms of censorship which isn't OK either.

However, there were numerous forensic and ethical failures in the process beyond that: the "beacon" communicated insecurely, with no authentication or integrity protection; there is no forensic chain indicating it could have run other code; the FBI refuse to disclose the vulnerability, even though it has in fact already been fixed, and have dropped cases to try to keep it secret, thus going against the mission parameters; and continuing to run a site actively distributing and incentivising the creation of new CP (i.e. actively involved in child abuse) is in my opinion much much worse than dealing drugs as an undercover cop - it's extremely ethically troubling, and unnecessary to the operation as a whole.

>>60256945
True. They tend to have special units for them; other prisoners will put ground glass in their food, etc.

>>60257988
You need to chill m8.
Have a green tea

>>60257998
>need to chill
>have some caffeine
there's just no pleasing you

>>60256649
Or be in Russia

>>60258021
bullet is caffeine free

>>60256723
All globalists and Rothschilds are pedos and they are not dumb.

>>60256937
this or some absurd API that allows the browser to fingerprint (like webrtc and xgd-like APIs)

Pedo genocide when

>>60257507
>they aren't safe to post that shit on the deepweb OR anywhere.

The downside of that is, the actual molesters just don't get caught.
All the shit they do and record stays hidden away and traded very privately like it was before the internet when people rarely went to jail for doing this stuff with kids.
Practically every other family has grandpas and uncles and shit going back generations who molested/raped half the kids in the family and it all stayed a secret for too long and they wind up never paying.

Also why don't actually child molesters get this much prison time?
Why are they just run through the system and released into back into our neighborhoods?
I'm not as worried about the asshole running some tor site as I am about the actual child predators who's houses kids are walking past on the way to school everywhere.
There's a shit load of them and they almost always re-offend.

>>60257934
Thry don't think they're moral. A good number of prisoner types were abused as kids so they take it out on the pedos and rapists

>>60257934
>he still thinks people attack pedos in federal prison

You pedophiles are given alot of protection there. If anyone touches you, they get shipped off to another prison and they get time added to their sentences. Everyone avoids you pedophiles like the plague though.

>>60256621

>only 30 years

For a moment there I thought this was in the UK or something

Quite surprised he didn't get 500 consecutive life sentences

first the drugs and now all the CP

Tor is just a massive honey pot

>>60256745
only morons have their JS on

>>60258203
Even without JS there are some ways to exploit browsers.
It is easier when you have the host so you can target the malware to the specific browsers people are using.

Firing squad them all.

>Tor on Windows
What did they mean by this?

>>60257221
How does Freenet or i2p compare to tor in terms of security/anonimity? Specifically with public nodes and not a friend only/assisted network.

I see a lot of people talk up i2p but without explaining why it's preferable.

>>60256621
garbage humans getting busted, cool
why should i care if i don't have CP or do anything illegal?
is it really news that it's easy for people with access to better than consumer tech to be able to get into your shit?
retards

>>60258347
>people are garbage for having instinctual urges
You gonna pretend like you don't jerk off, as if that makes you any better than anyone else anyway.

Pedos are a symptomatic problem of society. The root cause is not being dealt with and in fact most of society refuses to talk about it openly. Pedos in many countries cannot even get help to make sure they don't offend. The sexual compulsion is a strong emotion as many of you all know. Yet we continue to fight the problem from the wrong end of the stick.

Why is 4chan so butthurt about pedos?

Is it just americans being prude?

There's 7 billion people and we can't even feed them all or save the planet's nature, who gives a shit if a bunch of kids got raped

>>60258434

Do you think it's even possible to fix the problem?

Pretty sure it's inherent in people and it will never go away.

>>60258434
>sexual compulsion is a strong emotion as many of you all know
what if, for instance, their sexual compulsion drives them only to the extent of beating off to cp. why does that warrant a prison sentence for such a though crime?
>inb4 it makes them want more
there is literally no literature to suggest this, and some that indicates the opposite.

>>60258425
here's your (You)

>>60258465
Decriminalizing the thing they use to satiate their urges seems like a good start. Notice in Japan that their molestation rates are lower despite suggestive child swimsuit videos being legal.

I feel like CP laws should be on par with drugs, where use is not a crime but production and distribution is. Who does it hurt to watch the content, it's only the production and unsanctioned distribution that is harmful.

>>60258465
Well banning child like sex dolls and lolicon is not going to make the problem go away. The whole 'it normalizes pedophilia' argument is huge strawman.

Allow counceling without fear of being reported to the cops.

Steer them towards venting their urges on alternatives like the above.

Guide them away from negatives.

Get them involved in the community (not near kids obviously).

If we take away the social stigma everything follows from there.

Right now though we shun them and they stay under the radar continuously abusing and the cycle is not broken.

>>60258434
Relevant but long video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJU_LvwL-Kc

>>60258480
Most of what society and law is based on is emotional knee jerk. The "it's 'icky' and offends me" mentality.

The argument is that by looking for it you are causing a demand for new material. I suggest legalizing old CP and keep the production of new CP illegal.

>>60256937
this. using a distro or tor will save you, as long as you're not a fucking idiot.

>>60257002
>change the position of atoms
>get anally raped and killed

>>60258548
>looking for it you are causing a demand for new material
I hate this because no one says "I'd never touch a child. Unless of course I had an audience."
people molest children because theyre child molesters. not because of a capitalist tenet.
If everyone stopped watching isis beheading video, im pretty sure theyd continue beheading. because theyre isis.

>>60258434
>>60258480
Pretty much the issue is that people aren't willing to accept that an attraction to "underage" people can be as hardwired into people as attraction to opposite sex, same sex, older people, certain body types, and so on.
Some of those things were looked on almost as bad as pedophilia in the past but things have changed so perhaps there is hope for the future.

It is still a really massive problem that if someone came out and said "I am attracted to underage girls (but I am doing the best I can to avoid doing anything illegal)" they would likely be branded a pedophile and their life would basically be over, even if they were never charged or found to have done anything illegal.

It is that big of a social taboo that people cannot even talk to others about the feelings they are struggling with, and that is probably what ends up driving them an online community that winds up getting them into CP.

>>60257553
different anon,
>fapping to pixels on a screen is nothing
The act in and off itself in isolation does not harm anyone.
HOWEVER, of course if the images are real and involve the abuse of minors then I am all for them being taken down and the people responsible for abusing said minors and creating said content to be effectively stopped, punished and rehabilitated.

The problem is when authorities go on a moral witch hunt involving content that does not suit their agenda even going as far as condemning people for viewing or possessing illustrations they deem illegal which are virtual and do not directly involve the abuse of real people for instance.
And of course this is not limited to the topic of what is considered to be underaged porn, considering certain countries such as the UK are butting in and banning consensual porn footage involving rape or even more timid footage such as female ejaculation for instance.
Not sure of the state of their laws currently I've only glanced at it before when the craze was going on here a few years ago the situation may have changed there by now but the point still stands.

>>60258659
It's insane to imagine how it got here too given that it wasn't too uncommon in other great civilizations. As for natural instincts, some people speculate that the purpose of pubic hair is to demonstrate to other humans that they're ready for mating, in some countries teens aren't seen as taboo where in others it is.

It's even crazier when people admire child-like traits, nobody hesitates to say that smooth tight skin is attractive, or that the older someone gets the less attractive they appear (without assistance from cosmetics). There's some crazy repression going on that's not so uncommon and not so secretive, girls acting ditsy, men wanting to be called daddy, pigtails, school uniforms, etc.

>>60256915

kek, underrated

>>60257610
Thank you anon, I'm a total dumbass and this explains it bright as day.

>>60258712
Not forgetting shaven pubis. Humanity is one big hippocritical fuckup for sure.

Lmao at all these idiots who act like they wouldn't fuck a preteen if they had a change

>>60256621

>But the feds eventually caught a lucky break and received a tip from a foreign law enforcement agency, which included Chase’s true IP address.

KEK, the feds couldn't do shit, then some foreign agency hands them the perps actual IP address.

>YOUR LINUX DISTROS WON'T SAVE YOU.

Guy was obviously running Windows 10

Even though western society (and to some degree the far east) accepts homosexuality, secretly most straight men hate faggots. They just cannot say it in public anymore. Women accept faggots because they feel 'safe' amongst them. Women generally dislike dykes however.

Entertainers tend to get less hate simply because many of them are clownish comedians (like Graham Norton in the UK) or singers/prettyboys teenage girls swoon over.

In private with our trusted friends and family we still state our hate for those that do not fit our ideals (racism etc).

You may not be able to see it in public (we all wear our masks) but we have not changed much.

>country of freedom
>can be put in jail for watching harmless videos on the internet
Lmao murriclaps on suicide watch.

>>60258806
we takin over

>>60258818
law enforcement would rather be sitting in an office chair playing computer games than out on the streets facing the chance of real danger at the end of a gun.

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>>60256621
Holy shit bros where should we go now, first kindzaza chan now this, how worse can life get?

>>60256621
>The agency then ran the site and used malware for two additional weeks to monitor its users.
FBI running a literal CP site, I thought that wasn't allowed.

>>60258867
>FBI sharing CP
You just cannot make this shit up

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>>60256755
Them getting PlayPen's admin and mod IPs is most likely from the TheLoveZone bust. When they tookdown TLZ they operated it for months, and eventually were able to link TLZ staff to PP.

In pic related:
Website A = PlayPen
Website 2 = TheLoveZone
Moderator-1 = David Lynn Browning
FLA = possibly Task Force Argo in AU

This is just the conclusion I've come to after reading articles and whatever official documents on each case I could find.

>>60256985
IT pros legal logic, sirs.

>>60256805
I don't want to pay taxes so some prisoners live off of them

Waste of money. Just like the war on drugs. Not one of the guys convicted did something wrong.

>>60258898
Makes sense.

>>60258954
I look forward to your future prosecution you kid diddler.

>>60259073
At least you enjoy what you pay for, most of us don't. I'd rather my money go towards the shitty roads in my city than the guy whacking off in his home. Paying the salary of FBI agents who monitor this stuff daily while arresting others who do it less often.

>>60258026
One buy was put in jail for hosting a node for TOR, so yeah, nope

>>60258026
>>60259154
guy*

>>60256621
Oh shit they monitored Playpen users? Um... I mean... users of this completely perverted website which I had never heard of before coming across this thread. Hope they all go to prison... and stuff...

>>60256621
>feds eventually caught a lucky break and received a tip from a foreign law enforcement agency, which included Chase’s true IP address.

Sounds like someone fell for the VPN "we don't keep any logs" lie

>>60259270
Is there something you want to share with the class, Anon?

>>60256704
stuff was uploaded to OCH, just the links were on the playpen forum

>>60257087
the producer is not a slave to the consumer, try harder.

>>60259292
What would I want to share? I am a totally normal individual and member of this society. I have sexual intercourse with adult women. You know because that's what normal adult males do when their penis gets erect.

>>60257553
it's literally a victimless crime. you want to help the abused loli? catch the people who make it.

>>60259386
By consuming it you're encouraging the creation.

>>60259415
Explain your conclusion.

>>60259422

Are you this dense?

>>60258347
why don't you allow the police to install a camera over your bed? it will help them to catch muggers that would kill you in your sleep. they guarantee your privacy. you don't have anything to hide and don't do anything illegal, so everything's cool, right?

>>60259422

>>60259319
the producer has free fucking will

>>60256744
Ownership isn't even that important. The majority of nodes are in the US and Europe. If it was one third in China and one third in Russia and one third within NATO counties then it would be different. It's easy to monitor Tor when nearly all the nodes are within the NAZI alliance.

>>60259438
Not an argument, not anything. Try again.

>>60259438
>Are you seriously questioning my world view in 2017?

>>60256621
>>60256704
>>60256937
>>60257176
I think it's really problematic that the FBI is running child pornography sites. And I also have a problem with the FBI spreading malware.

Don't care that it was CP in this case. "Law enforcement" should not sell drugs or guns or run child porn sites or spread malware. This is partly why I have zero respect for law enforcement.

>>60256621
>running cp site
>not having an escape route,a fortress and a cyanide capsule on you the whole time
Seems kinda careless. Also,did what do they mean by "following the money"? Did these idiots use non-cryptocurrency?

>>60258747
i'm pretty fuckin sure that he run tails

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>>60256621

Person with illegal proclivities here

These guys had footage of real children being abused, and had forum members abusing children. The FBI was right to arrest them. To harm children for your own base satisfactions is subhuman.

>>60259701
reddit -->

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>>60259721

fuck off, I guarantee I've been here far longer than you have, and I've never visited that shithole. I'm not saying give up your chinese cartoons and what not, but that videotaping real children for the peasure of others on the internet is fucking disgusting.

>>60259701
>To harm children for your own base satisfactions is subhuman.
And hurting them for other reasons is ok?

>>60259701
>>60259748
those pictures are unnecesary
respect the server

>>60259701
>>60259748
nigga please, go back to plebbit

>>60259748
>but that videotaping real children for the peasure of others on the internet is fucking disgusting.
There's nothing inherently wrong with this, because you made that statement so vague at least. That would mean that vacation videos you send to your relatives via the internet are "fucking disgusting".

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Pedos are modern witches, glad I'm not one.

>>60256621
>be FBI
>seize CP site
>continue to host it because lol
>then add malware because it's what all the cool kids do
>"You can trust us, we're the good guys!"

>>60259809
But according to that analogy, nobody's really a pedo. So the FBI and whatnot could still label you as a pedo, even though you're not actually one.

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>>60259758

I didn't imply that. Harming children is never ok, but consciously doing it to satisfy yourself is particularly bad, much worse than inadvertantly harming a child - for example, a parent who exclusively feeds their child junk because they don't know any better.

>>60259838
They probably could.

>>60257087
If that's true, then piracy should not be illegal because it increases sales...

>>60259849
I think so as well. My point was that being glad you're not a pedo is a false sense of security. Probably didn't make that clear enough.

>>60258434
I agree, they should set up a few Care Centre around the world and let us go in there and vent out by fucking some lolis

>>60259773
You're not winning the argument by behaving as if you were clueless about the topic of this thread. Go play dumb before a judge, see how that backfires you sick pedo creep.

>>60259822
Lives of children are more important than that of some sick ass 40 year old, who's only good to feed the worms.

>>60260337
The only argument in that post was about how his statement was vague and technically wrong. Which is true. Don't force your own implications on it.

>>60259861
Non-pedos are less likely to be announced as being pedos. This means the sense of security is at least statistically justified.

>>60256621
karma
>>60256783
trips of truth minus the trips part

>>60260354
>Don't force your own implications on it.
What my own implications? Do you not know the thread at hand, is it not part of the context unless the poster explicitly tells it at you? Stop being a weasel.

>>60260377
Not according to the previous analogy. Which is what my post was based on.

>>60260391
Your implications that somehow my post meant anything but what I said. I know the context, but even within that context you can have different discussions. The context does not make the statement right, it's still intentionally (too) vague which makes it incorrect. Which was my point.

>>60256704
From what I have heard it was a javascript exploit and they got a small portion of the people who HAD JAVASCRIPT ENABLED which is utterly retarded to do anywhere when using tor
Also, if you are using something like tails, going to internet cafes, and have an encrypted hd with safeguards then you probably are completely untouchable no matter what you do on the internet. I guarantee many of these scumbag morons weren't doing this though

Also,
>100s of thousands of members
Oh, so there was a lot of normies, that explains why they were caught

>>60259838
>But according to that analogy, nobody's really a pedo.
It depends on what you mean. Witches did exist, they were just harmless, a group of women partying in the Forrest shoving brooms between their legs, not magical demon girls who torment the towns.

You could say the same thing about video consumers and producers in this case. Both are hunted as if they're the latter when the former is more or less harmless.

>>60257555
>>60257570
kys pedos

>>60260354
Not that guy but if you are trying to pretend it wasn't clear exactly what he meant you are a fucking idiot, which was his entire point. It's very clear given CONTEXT what he means. So next time before you be a pedantic fuck, learn about basic concepts like context.

>>60256769
Even if it's incredibly unlikely, it's not completely impossible

http://www.denverpost.com/2009/11/08/pc-users-framed-by-virus-collecting-child-porn/

>>60261363
Good thing that I'm not doing that, which should be clear by my usage of words like "technically".

>>60256621
>received a tip from a foreign law enforcement agency
JUST GCHQ MY SHIT UP DESU SENPAI

>>60257613
TITS AND GTFO

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Awesome it makes me happy to see the FBI doing useful shit like this. If they pulled off more busts like this maybe they wouldn't have such a hard time justifying their methods.

>>60256621
Good riddance.

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>>60258443
Might have something to do with some of us being raped ourselves as kids.

>>60258265
you could also spoof the user agent and then the target website will have no clue what browser you are using, stop trying to scare everyone, fbi.

>>60258041
Please keep politics out of /g/

>>60261746

Lol get over it faggot.

>>60256621
Not knowing that tor can runs (& once built) on windows. Go back to /pol/ faggot.

>>60257394
Any hidden service that tries to give the users privacy and require javascript on default is not worth visiting.

>>60256621
What does this have to do with Linux?

>>60256838
Actually keked

>>60261597
giving people viruses is a crime.

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Steven Chase, pedophile and ex-kiddie diddler.
it does my heart good to hear some good news for a fucking change.

>>60258744
>pedo
>preteen

Must be hard being retarded.

>>60257934
they separate them in prison for that very reason.

>>60256838
>pictures of 18+ women could be considered CP unless proven otherwise

I wonder how many people have been busted for having legal porn that just looks younger. I'm guessing a few thousand at least.

>>60258443

fucking this. our planet is dying and no one even cares.

>>60256621
He's basically a political prisoner.

>>60256621
Funny thing is, this people will be finishing their sentences around the same time that cp will finally become legal in America

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>>60257475
Educate yourself slowly and steadily

>>60262152
Not for the one being retarded. For everyone else it is.

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>>60256621
Reminder that 99.99% CP is just cute, harmless, solo softcore

Reminder that playpen, magic kingdom, etc, had rules against anything that seem like abuse or violence

Reminder that only wankers used those places

Reminder that real psychos are laughing at this circus right now

>>60262554
>cp is cute
congratulations, you just earned a place in FBI tracking targets

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>>60259701
>harm

>>60262554
I think torture should be allowed to be used on pedophiles. If you disregard the human rights of the unaware children, you shouldn't have human rights either.

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>>60256621
Grand news! Too bad you're not dead, Steven Chase, because I cannot yet tell you to burn in hell for the immeasurable pain you caused so many innocent children.

>>60262583
why wouldn't be? human body is objectively beautiful, regardless of your age.

only a homo wouldn't consider most 16 year old girls attractive.

>>60262424
>>60262554
Kill yourself, pedo scum

i hope the F.B.I is tracking all of you

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>>60262597
>>60259771
>>60259721
Literally little monsters in their moms basement. You too will be put meet your justified end when you're put down like the sick dogs you are. In the meantime have fun feeling edgy shitposting. Your insides are thoroughly rotten though. You would probably throw up yourselves if years of desensitization hadnt made you blind to the corpse maggots already feasting on your deceased soul.

>>60256621
cp is disgusting m8, why should we care?
30years is not enough tho.

>>60262554
People are being prosecuted and sentenced to 30+ years of prison for watching a particular combination of pixels on a screen

>>60262698
continued from my previous post. Arguably the world lost its way in a sense when we let go of justifiably inconceivably painful punishments for those who prey on the weak and innocent with impunity (pic related).

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>>60262744
forgot pic, just one example of many

>>60262698
*tips fedora*

>>60262615
That would make the entire concept of human rights worthless. That's pretty much the talk of an angry parent who wants revenge rather than justice. Objectively, if we deny one person his/her human rights, we can very well abolish human rights completely. In every judical system there is room for corruption and error. We can only try to minimize the damage caused by these very real factors.

>>60262735
>People are being prosecuted and sentenced to 30+ years of prison for having a certain binary number permanently or temporarily stored on their computers.

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>>60262735
Prison is not even close to enough compared to what they deserve, or what you deserve for supporting vultures feeding on peoples innocent sons and daughters.

>>60262554
Is scientifically proved that people that fap to porn become psychopath rapists

Every men that fap to porn is a potential rapist and murderer and must be prosecuted and executed in the most painful way possible.

>>60262794
Excellent examples of European culture.

>>60262794
>implying pedos actually survive prison for 30+ years without being in isolation
Niggers and spics might do some horrific shit to human beings, but even they have some baseline principles. The second a prison population discovers that an inmate was convicted on CP or molestation, they'll jump on him so quick. Especially considering that the reason they're all so fucked up is because many of them are so fucked up because of traumatic sexual experiences when they were children.

>>60262698
>Calls others edgy
>Types like an underage mentally disturbed emo cunt who cuts himself and posts the pictures on tumblr

>>60262793
>People get arrested for launching certain combinations of atoms through the pedophiles chests' with certain tools

>>60262872
>Certain combinations of atoms forcibly get locked in other combinations of atoms for influencing other combinations of atoms in a certain way.

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>>60262808
THIS

only degenerate psychos watch/fap to porn

day of the rope can't come soon enough

>>60262860
Grammatical accuracy is unimportant, neither gods or humans (the ones that matter) are ever going to judge or punish me for it. You however, if you chose to align yourself with destroyers of lives and childhoods; these utter sociopathic vampires. You will justly get your comeuppance sooner or later, and probably sooner than you think.

>>60262926
Because fapping while watching a man fucking a woman is worse than fapping to a made up fantasy about a man fucking a toddler.

hello where is the technology :DDD

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>>60262938
>(the ones that matter)
Let me guess, you're the one to decide which humans matter and which don't?

Aside from that, your comments sounds like you're thinking of yourself as some kind of divine messenger and judge. I'm under the impression that you look a little bit like pic related. You're a dark knight, right? Or possibly some sort of Dexter type character? You're pathetic.

>>60262906
Yes, precisely, lets abolish all laws. It would be awesome if the parents of those children were allowed to shoot you in the face.

>>60262615
i am against torture (even if it is pedos). I think a death penalty would be good enough as a punishment. but putting them in jail for 30 years for free meals and bed at the expense of the tax payer is just outrageous.

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>>60262948
according to obama

>If it's technologically possible to make an impenetrable device or system, where encryption is so strong that there's no a backdoor — then how do we apprehend the child pornographers?

>>60262976
And in the same instance everyone would be allowed to shoot you in the face. Besides, why would parents of abused children shoot ME in the face? Am I an advocate of child abuse and CP?
>>60262990
Exactly. Death penalty is a valid option. The problem is, justice isn't perfect. One person executed for a crime he/she didn't commit is enough to question the concept. There's a huge difference between undeserved 20 years in prison and undeserved death. That's a line we'll be only able to cross once we can look into the past.

>>60262976
OK I think I didn't make it clear with >>60263018.

What I was trying to say was, with >>60262906 I tried to point that it's utterly absurd that we care for anything at all.

>>60263001
Making it obligatory to have all children go through frequent medical examinations would be a good start.

>>60262973
Normal people who get married and have lovely cute loved little children - just like you were once, before you grew crooked, rotten and beyond redemption. Typically not the kind of people who rape children, fap to the rape of peoples children or even worse rape their own children. As observed by other posters, even the uttermost scum of earth in our prisons know that at least they are more morally upstanding than you since they would never consider hurting an innocent little child.

What is literally wrong with you, guy? Are you really planning to go on like this until someone rids you of your pathetic existence?

>>60262841
>Niggers and spics might do some horrific shit to human beings, but even they have some baseline principles.

lol

https://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=CARTEL+TORTURE

Beaners kidnapping random people off the streets, including children, amputating their hands, feet, faces and gouging out their eyeballs while keeping them alive for as long as possible with IVs.

I'd take a pedo assraping any day over having anything to do with niggers and spics.

Wish I had saved the webms, truly some horrifying shit from hell.

>>60263097
I'm sorry did my comment imply that I'm a pedophile? I'm not. I just think you're a wannabe edgelord, that's all. And being an edgelord is more pathetic than being a pedophile.

>>60256621
Tor is run by the feds so i aint surprised. Kiddy diddlers deserve it anyhow

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>>60262424
cp won't ever become legal, because there's no better excuse for mass government spionage.

>Witch hunting
>McCarthysm
>War on drugs
>War on "terrorism"
>Pedohysteria

only a couple of those have an emotional component. and only one mixes the "SEX IS DIRTY" with the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" component.

>>60263154
Its just a post on an imageboard, might as well have been your mom for all you know.

What I said is true though. If you chose to make your life about the rape of the innocent, better look over your shoulder every now and then. I'm not aiming to sound like Linkin Park here, only reiterating some truths. Didnt cost me anything except two minutes of my time.

>>60263055
>>60263018
See>>60263097
Yes, we shouldn't care about your well being at all. Why do I have to pay the government so they can feed parasytes like you? Draw some lines on what people can do and what they can't so we don't have to debate on planted evidences.
>>60263154
Helping criminals obfuscate evidence or directly contributing to the crime is also a crime, you imbecile.

>>60263084
how can you conclude from a medical examination that a teenager hasn't been photographed on the nude?

>>60263235
>Helping criminals obfuscate evidence or directly contributing to the crime is also a crime, you imbecile.

I feel like there's a huge deal of miscommunication involved here. At what point did I help criminals? I'm not even criticizing Anon for his content. It's his "I'm a godsent avenger of the innocent" style that bothers me.

>>60256621
Where are the fbi's charges for months of running playpen and for posting child pornography and beastiality on this website?

the governmental child porn databases weren't supposed to be a fap folder for spooks before going to pizza parties.

>>60263285
>According to what, I dindu nuffin
All you have done through this thread was defending those psychopaths. If they get a free pass on abusing children, you are directly resposible for making that happen.

>>60263235
>Why do I have to pay the government so they can feed parasytes like you?
The government doesn't feed me. I work for my money you retard. Also, I don't put my dick in anything younger than 18, if that's what you're implying. Well, the youngest piece of pussy I managed to get was 16 but that was when I was 16 as well so I guess that's OK.

>>60263084
>have all children go through frequent medical examinations
>penis inspection day is now legal
almost made me fall for it

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>>60263285
>"I'm a godsent avenger of the innocent" style that bothers me.

That's just aesthetics you imbecile. Word choice. Really silly and ephemeral things to get worked up about, especially when talking about real evil - which does exist (pic related).

Maybe you have some growing up to do?

>>60263285
pedo threads are nothing but purposeful miscommunication

pedo=normal hebephile man
pedo=harmless fetish
pedo=statutory rapist
pedo=psychopath murder

>>60263344
I didn't defend anyone at any point. I was just pointing out that it's neither my nor your job to care for those things. Except, of course, if you're working in law enforcement or if you're directly affected (like a witness or victim)

>>60263368
It's not just aesthetics. It's the kind of rhetoric that promotes vigilantism, which is always wrong. Child abuse is a danger to children, no doubt, but these comments are a danger to society.

>>60263380
If its not your job to care about these things, why do you post in this thread, at all? By your logic, lets bring back aristocracy because majority of citizens doesn't control the government. Fuck off.

>>60263372
Just choose one, and argue like a retard without even remotely considering anyone else's opinions

am i the only one who is confused how people who don't create or share are prosecuted? what exactly are the percussions of your "intent" if you accidentally viewed it?

>>60263423
Famous last words of the pedophile with the hollow soul: I only damaged the lives of a few expendable, children but the guy who put the shiv in my kidney put a shiv in the very foundations of our democracy.

Cool story, childfucker. Better sleep with one eye open when you go to prison, which you eventually will.

>>60263428
There are other things I care about. For example the downfall of society as described by >>60263423. It's my job as a member of society to protect it from harm. It's yours too. If child abuse, at one point, would take over and affect huge chunk of my country's population, I'd be more than willing to care. But currently, I percieve the arguments in this threat as a greater danger to society.

>>60263480
you don't accidentally make an account on a cp site and visit it regularly

>>60263503
Yes its more dangerous to express your hate towards pedophiles than actually going out your way to rape children. Good job.

>>60257542
>weekend /g/

>>60263498
There are people whose job it is to persecute child abuse crimes and I trust those people with it.

>Better sleep with one eye open when you go to prison

This pretty much confirms my point. Pedophiles will damage and probably end lives, which is sad and outraging and must be punished, but from a universal point of view it's completely irrelevant. What's not irrelevant is, that there are actually people like you who would willingly overturn our elaborate judical system to get revenge, rather than justice.

>Yes its more dangerous to express your hate towards pedophiles than actually going out your way to rape children. Good job.

No, but expressing the wish for anarchy is more dangerous than raping children.

>>60263579
>>60263528

>>60263579
Couldn't have said it better. Revenge =/= Justice. Our society is stronger than that. If it's not, we're all doomed.

>>60263528
That's not what's happening in this thread. It's not merely expressing hate and it's not always raping children.

ITT: People forget that pedophilia is an actually sickness that can (and must) be treated. Morality is what matters. A morally well adjusted pedophile is likely to go into therapy rather than putting his dick up his niece's ass.

>>60263664
Torture and prison aren't treatment by the way.

>>60263579
>from a universal point of view it's completely irrelevant

Your life is also completely irrelevant from a universal point of view but we both know that you would cry like a little bitch and appeal to whatever power you pathetic mind could conceive, were you about to be robbed of it. Sad!

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holy fucking shit dudes I clicked on my /g/ bookmark but the tubes brought me straight to reddit

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I thought this was /g/, why is everybody ranting about pedos and children rather than discussing the fact that FBI distributed viruses or shittalking the opsec of the pedo who got caught?

>>60259562
In this day and age if you stick with your 19th century law ideals you'll be overrun with pedo kingpins.
Also these kinda ops are called "sting operations" and they're meant specifically for out of hand tasks like these.
Now wear your MAGA cap and suck on a fkin dorito

>>60257991
>The FBI used an NSA-purchased, Zerodium-brokered 0day vulnerability in Firefox ESR

did this vulnerability imply the user using javascript?

>>60263687
I'm just tired of the government doing fucked up things on the internet. What's there to discuss? Wew, another FBI/NSA exploit?
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if literally every machine has a backdoor in it.

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>>60263687
sunday wagenorms taking their aggressions out on 4cham

>>60256621
>followed the money

I thought CP is free?

>>60263680
I didn't say crime is irrelevant to victims. It's just irrelevant enough not to bother regular people who are not involced and who would be better off worrying about the current state of society. Crime only concerns criminals, victims and law enforcement and those in their immediate surroundings but impending anarchy concerns everyone. It's a problem much larger than an everyday case of child abuse because it must be dealt with by everyone.

>>60256621
As >>60257991 said:
>The intent was to infect computers running Windows and the Tor Browser Bundle
Targeting Windows users makes most sense because Windows is the most common desktop OS.
Also pedos are usually retarded and technologically challenged middle-aged men that can barely into Windows, let alone Linux.
Statistically most pedos are Windows users.
Linux users fap to cartoons anyways.

>>60256698
Totally agree.

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>>60263758
You'd be surprised how many people pay for this sick shit. Bitcoin is a thing, you know. This guy (German politician) was caught because he paid for CP with his credit card.

>>60263798
btw he wasn't convicted. He told the court buying and consuming CP was a mistake and then was let off the hook for 5000€. Just great.

>>60263741
Kill yourself, shit or brains.

>>60263798
Time to shave my legs and learn to make little girl noises

>>60263831
>>>/reddit/

>>60263834
Why? Do you think he sexy?

>>60256649
Jokes on you kid I'm hiding behind 6 death notes

>>60263815
He said he was sorry, gawd...

Proof that quantum computers are in use

>>60263871
No I want pedobux

>>60263951
Oh. I thought you wanted to have sex with Edathy.

>>60256704
probably drive by downloads

To all you pedophiles, why don't you just fap to Loli or Shota?

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>>60263778
Dont worry my sweet summer pedo. Your kind gets their just comeuppance daily and since the dawn of time for all I know. Great civilizations have budded, blossomed and withered all while pedos have got their balls cut off and shoved down their throats. The judicial or extrajudicial expedition of sick pedos is completely immaterial to the prospects of civilized society.

>>60264244
>pointing out far greater problems than pedophilia makes Anon a pedophile

Dat logic

>>60264244
"unga bunga kill pedos"
insightful social commentary you have made there, did you copy this post over from your facebook?

>>60264286
>>60264281
>please dont hurt me, I barely touched her, I swear

Pitiful

>>60264244
Confirming my posts once again

>>60264298
Jokes on you, Im only into boys. Anyway, we're talking about important principle here, like the right to love anyone across racial, gender and age borders.

>>60264302
>>60264244

Guess who's been touched by his uncle...
Come back after therapy. Then you'll realize that society can withstand pedophilia but not advocates of your misguided ideology.

4chan's entire culture was built around making fun of the kind of people who post this trash.
What bothers me about this thread doesn't have to do with pedophilia in particular, it's the volume of mind numbingly boring and utterly contentless mainstream views that are better suited to other sites that operate as a popularity contest.
Years ago before the captcha this would have been flooded off the board with loli manga dumps, just for lulz and because it's a shit thread.
Pedos are merely the canary in the 4chan mines.

>>60262618
It's good that he's not dead, because then he'd be getting away scot free since hell doesn't exist

I don't get it. Adults like food, kids like food. Adults like music, kids like music. Adults like sex, kids... Well, what makes you think kids don't like sex?

>>60265373
You got a point. I've never seen a child crying during sex

>>60265373
Puberty's a thing you know.

>>60265968
Then how come kids don't protest when I...
give them candy...

>>60266016
Nothing sexual about sucking on a lollipop mate.

>>60264427
4chan was beautiful while it lasted.

its own nature was its worst weakness: it's too susceptible to even a medium size shilling organization.