/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Best Vim keyboard? Something that maps arrows to hjkl would be good.

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>>60254915
HHKB

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post a picture of your current keyboard without replying to me

>>60254925
But that esc

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>>60254935
doesn't matter

>>60254948
but what if I don't have an emacs pedal?

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>>60254958
its clear you aren't an advanced enough user

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Nth for 75%

I like 1800

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You got it anon.

>>60255455
Your keyboard isn't even nice

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if mechanical keyboards are so great then why do they all use touch screens on star trek?

>>60255487
A better question would be why do they even pay people to operate computers when they have super intelligent AI?

>>60255487
are you sure that aren't mechanical touch screens?

>>60255561
>tfw no OLED keycaps

>>60255486
i dont recall him ever claiming it was?

>>60255486
It's a Filco so it definitely isn't shit, it's just a little boring. He clearly takes the gun hobby more seriously than the keyboard hobby.

>>60255486
I've got a Filco majestouch 2 myself, it's a very good keyboard with a modest design that doesn't go around screaming i'm a huge faggot

>>60255560
>pay
I thought Star Trek was a post-scarcity communist utopia

>>60255919
They get paid in holodeck hours

>>60255919
Pretty sure its a fascist empire

>>60255560
why does the super intelligent AI even allow humans to exist to fuck things up

>>60256051
where can i buy those key caps

>>60256013
>tfw you live in a communist hell hole and risk death on a daily basis just to spend a few precious minutes in a simulation where you can pretend it's 1950s America and your life has actual meaning
>also sweet ass mechanical typewriters

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>>60256051
>having to use the digit keys to type

What a horrible language

>>60256099
KBPfans, Originative, Imsto, Aliexpress, Taobao

>>60256140
most Japanese don't actually type like that.

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Hello. I have this old keyboard with blue cherry switches. Chicony kb-5191. I lost the din to PS2 converter so I will need one. Would be possible to change the layout to something similar to US?

>>60256180
How else do they type? IME?

>>60256201
yes it is an IME that inputs kanji. the IME can use romaji- or kana-based modes, which is the one which requires the number row. but most use romaji; at least I was told that by a Japanese person once.

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Building a new pc when Vega releases but I want to go ahead and get a new keyboard since I accidentally broke the last foot a few weeks ago. I've never actually owned a mechanical keyboard, but I have used them and know that's what I want. I just don't know a whole lot about them. Maybe you can help me?

>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Best for gaming? Black? Blue?
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% full, preferably with 5-6 additional keys to bind for future use
>Backlight
yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Saitek Eclipse II, pic related before I cleaned it a couple years ago. I've had it since 2009

Thoughts on the Anne PRO?

I'm thinking of picking one up for myself with these keycaps https://www.massdrop.com/buy/backlit-doubleshot-gradient-pbt-keycap-set

>>60256195
A E S T H E T I C

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>>60256548

>>60256624
It hadn't been cleaned. Ever. I keep it much tidier now.

>>60256195
That's pretty nice, what board/switches/caps?

>>60256839
not him
GMK Hyperfuse, Varmilo VA68M

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>tfw no 75% keyboard with 2.75u backspace + 2.75u forwardspace instead of 5.5u spacebar

idea guy here

keyboard with a power button for turning your computer on and off

>>60256140
I love the look of the caps but its probably way easier to just type the english letters and have the computer output the correct kana.

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>>60257986
>giving my cat the power to destroy all my work at any moment

>>60257986
Das 4 has a sleep button for that

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sushi board

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>>60257986

Here you go. My engineers work quickly. No need to thank me.

>>60257986
you can just program that in numbnuts

>>60258175
nice but did you mount the spacebar correctly, looks like it sits a bit high

>>60258323
You'd probably have a hard time programming a key to turn your computer on from a powered off state.

Is that even possible through USB?

>>60258350
https://superuser.com/questions/596758/how-to-turn-on-computer-via-usb-keyboard

>>60258350
Most programming methods have a sleep/wake option. For power I imagine you can add a simple macro code that will power off, but power back on? Not sure..

>>60258342
I think I hadn't had it fully pressed in in that photo but even if it's properly mounted it's still a tiny bit above the alts. I think it's the space bar

>>60256548
>>60256548
plz halp

>>60256548
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterKeys-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01ITE93VA
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DOLCH-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-side-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-87-104keycaps-108keys/2230037_32791274444.html

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>>60254928
Fuck

Why does it seem like most 65% keyboard kits are available in very few and specific configurations?

Are there any kits out there where I can actually get my own key caps and switches separately?

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>>60259147
For 65% kits I think your only choices are the Clueboard and that chinese 65% kit that was on Massdrop a while ago.

got a pok3r with mx clears in the mail. did i fuck up?

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>tfw no 65%/75% kit with options for the bottom row which include split/unsplit 5.5u spacebar

>>60259212
yes

>>60259212
it'll be fine anon

>>60259295
:(
>>60259301
:)

>>60259311
non ergo mx clears are pretty bad

I have a poker3 and lately while playing games I'll start strafing one direction like I'm holding down a key and the rest of the keyboard become unresponsive for about 1-2 seconds. Any ideas? I only play 1 game regularly so I'm not 100% positive it'll happen during other games/ tasks with roll over

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>>60259218
>>60258863
seiden.tech, how hard do you think it would be to DIY the split spacebar configuration? would it be worth looking into or would the plate and the pcb need to come like that from the manufacturer?

>>60259345
if you have programmed macros or rgb lighting try resetting it. i had this type of issue when i set a too complex rgb color pattern on my choc mini rgb where the keyboard would be unresponsive for like 1-2 seconds once in a while.

Anyone has IBM Model M here?
How good is it for gaming? I'm mainly doing programming and CS:GO / osu. I heard they are very good for typing, but the 2KRO scared me a bit

>>60259407
The FPS cluster is a non-issue because the way the matrix is laid out allows pretty much all common key combos based on WASD to work. Don't know about osu.

>>60259432
Thats good to hear, maybe I'll get a model M then. For osu you only use X/Y (X/Z for US layout, different layout for me) so thats probably not a problem, maybe just the time / force of pressing a key, and the durability of the keys

>Budget
$125
>Location (continent at least)
America
>Preferred switch type
Brown or Red, mainly for gaming
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
full
>Backlight
yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Steelseries Apex 300

good morning friends

>>60259569
Ducky One

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how is this keyboard mates?

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I need some non-gamer pandering memeboards that feature silver switches. Was looking at the Vortex Race 3 for pre-order. Any recommendations?

>>60259388
The only rgb is to show what preset it's on since it's a 60% I don't have any macros set other just the stock 4 presets. I'll look into that though thanks.

>Budget
$125
>Location (continent at least)
Europe
>Preferred switch type
Blue / Brown, programming and gaming
>Layout
ISO preferred, ANSI is okay too
>Form factor
numpad not necessary, full otherwise
>Backlight
not needed
>Previous/current keyboards
none significant, shitty plastic ones mainly

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I've missed you guys

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>>60259738
mmmm

>>60259843
That's nice, I've actually got blanks in the mail right now.

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>>60259855
They go nicely with ssk's, post a pic when you have em!

>>60259880
Sure will!

>>60259691
I don't get why they decided to make the top row nonstandard. I'm fine with a short right shift and 1u bottom modifiers, but that Esc and Del key will make finding replacements harder. Luckily the colored keys are extra cause I'd never use them. If they made a race 4 with a more standard layout I might buy one

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Soon...(tm)

>>60260387
Should I buy this?

>>60260399
if you want to

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>>60260399
I'm not a fan of the aesthetic, especially for 200 burger bucks.

>>60260399
It's a $200 complete programmable tkl

With kailh switches

I'll let you decide

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Should go up for sale in late may

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lol, shipping probably sometime next year or at the end of this year.

>>60258175
w2c those caps?

>>60260522
I don't get why they'd put so much effort into making a really high quality case and PCB, then cheap out with garbage Kailh switches and Tai-hao keycaps that people are gonna replace anyway. They could at least have a barebones option where you supply your own keycaps and switches but nah

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>>60260476
The switches are hot swapable. Pop
In whatever you like

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>>60260555
Because people can always just replace the kepcaps and switches(without soldering) anyway and thus helps shitters that just want a plug and play kb or are too scared to mod their on.

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wtf i love rgb now!

I'm looking for an enjoypbt set in classic white/grey colors in US layout. Anyone know where to look?

>>60260554
>>60260692
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps/32694867686.html

>>60260703
sorry about the french link but aliexpress seems terrible with languages

>>60260576
for 200 dollaridoos + the cost of the switches you could get multiple keyboards with different types of switches

>>60260476
>$200 with kailh switches

>>60260756
it seriously look like shit just get a magicforce

>>60259691
I was hype as fuck for that board, until I saw the top row. I really want a 75% board too... winkeyless looks like my only option

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>>60256839
>>60257621
yes, exactly.

switches are gateron browns.

>>60258369
so the only option is to have a magic cat?

>>60260992
All cats are magic

>>60259691
You could just get a gamer-pandering memeboard and change out the keycaps.

>>60260883
drevo gramr m8

>>60260992
it's a BIOS setting

>>60261017
Was actually just looking at it, The case looks sorta flimsy, specifically the feet on the back of it. How much of a bitch is it to take apart (i.e. am I gonna destroy those feet on it)? I don't trust their switches, I'd need to replace em.

>>60261040
Errr just to correct myself, I was looking at the Drevo Excalibur, I like the floating key design more.

>>60261034
but the setting they mentioned was only for working from sleep mode, not from a cold boot

>>60261096
>Power On By Keyboard
might only work with ps/2 keyboards tho

>>60261096
Not him, but my PS/2 keyboard turns my PC on if its turned off. Don't know why ot just does.

>>60260703
>>60260714
thanks

>>60261278
>>60261287
I'm not even the anon who asked about it before, but I took an interest.
Just tried it on my PS/2 keyboard without any luck.
I'll tinker around with my bios setting a little later to see if I can get it to work.

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>>60259353
Not that difficult, you'd just need to have a plate cut at lasergist and either find a PCB that supports your layout, design one yourself, or handwire it. I recommend the latter. Finding keycaps may be a bit more difficult, but SP offers all kinds of DSA caps, so it shouldn't be impossible.

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>>60262238
i'm clueless about this stuff but i'm intrigued. the stock choc mini rgb pcb (pic related) would be really difficult to mod by handwiring it right? since it has the circuitry in the places where i'd want to put the two switches

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>>60262557

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>>60262579

>>60259658
>babby's first mechanical keyboard

No but seriously though, it's nice.

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>>60262609

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>>60262635
looks like they put the controller right under the space bar. If you want you can use the existing PCB as a base, then hand wire the keyboard to a new controller.

>>60260854
this

What's the point of browns? They feel like crappy blues to me

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Think Drevo is any good? Seems to cheap to actually be decent

>>60263242
Browns are the switch for normies who don't want the clicking noise and are scared by the concept of linear switches. If only Cherry made factory ergoclears and normie companies put them in boards, then no-one would want browns.

>>60262557
I'd suggest you start from scratch, PCBs don't lend themselves well to modding.

You can join the /mkg/ telegram chat if you like, makes things like this a lot easier and gives you another outlet for shitposting
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEGEghPcd5X2gGVwmw

>Budget
<$100
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Red or Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
tenkeyless
>Backlight
Would be neat but not needed
>Previous/current keyboards
Shitty 90s packard-bell membrane keyboard

>>60263242
Not everyone want the clicky sound.

>>60263320
>the concept of linear switches
Linear switches are overrated.

>>60255486
you're not even nice

>>60263414
i'll put the idea to rest for now. i'm waiting for 2mm o-rings to arrive and i'm still experimenting with lshift+rshift+space as backspace so i have some things to keep me entertained for now. but building my own keyboard from scratch seems like something i'd be interested in doing at some point in the future. thanks for the advice.

>>60263419
Ducky One TKL

>>60263585
how is the Magicforce with cherry mx browns in comparison, is it worth the extra $30 for the Ducky?

anyone got a WASD keyboard?

are they gud?

or should i just fall for the pok3r rgb meme?

>>60264024
I want to know this too.

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>>60264024
They're okay desu. I've got a V1 and the only thing wrong with it is the stabilizers. I can't stand pic related now that I've had boards with the other type.

Keycaps are nothing to write home about but if you're in the hobby you're gonna replace those soon anyways.

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>>60263975
I'll assume you are talking about the 68. Well the ducky keyboard has more keys and much much better keycaps. I'd go with the PBT version, but the ABS keycaps are fine too. Ducky also has programmable macro support while the magic force doesn't. Besides the keycaps Ducky has a steel plate, while magicforce has an aluminum one. Magicforce also has a dip switch on the back that replaces caps lock with Ctrl, which I find really nice. ducky also does have dip switches, but those only switch the position of the FN key. Personally I took the 82 over the 68, but that ends up costing more then the ducky since you have to replace the awful stock keycaps. I'd pass on the cherry magicforce version and get the gateron one instead. Also be prepared to also factor replacement keycaps in your budget if you do go with the magicforce, since the stock ones are garbage.

>>60264147
what's going to be the difference between the gateron and cherry switches? it's only a $7 difference... also recommended keycaps?

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>>60264254
the smoothness. cherry switches feel scratch in comparison, now while people say that cherry recently updated their molds, its gonna take a long time for the new smooth cherry switches to find their way into the cheap chinese keyboards. the one thing that I like about ducky is that their stock keycaps are on a whole other level compared to their competition. you'd have to spend 40-50 bucks to get keycaps that are better then them in quality. I'd go with these cherry profile dye-sub PBT keycaps as they are slightly better then the stock keycaps that come on the Ducky One PBT version
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/one-dye-subbed-keycap-set-104keys

>>60264324
I'm thinking I'll go magicforce 68 with gateron browns. If it comes in and the keycaps are ass like everyone's saying I'll get replacements

Currently have Cherry mx blacks which do you think would be better. The blacks, green, blue or clears?

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>>60264456
Its a good keyboard. I just wish they sold a version with better keycaps.

how are leopold kbs compared to vortex?

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>>60264538
part of the charm is that the keycaps are ass so you get a good bang for your buck when you replace them with dank enthusiast keycaps of your choice

>>60264690
I'm looking to get the black one with white backlight, best aesthetic replacement options with clear letters?

>>60264764
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-doubleshot-pbt-keycaps
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-set/pbt-104-key-cherry-mx-keycap-set-backlit-doubleshot-black.html

what's the cheapest tenkeyless brown switch I can get?

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I pre ordered one of these.
>75%
>MX clears
>DSA keycaps
>certified downs syndrome color scheme
>retarded top row

Am I retarded?

>>60257986
here's an idea, use the keyboards ability to input characters to issue the shutdown command to your computer by writing text.

>>60264922
this one
http://www.amazon.in/Redragon-Double-Shot-Injection-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019OAQ6VI/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494184994&sr=1-6&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

>>60264963
>full-size
>blue switches
>indian amazon

>>60264950
Where do you order them?

>>60265054
mechanicalkeyboards

>>60264963
those are just keycaps

this is nice if you're in india

http://www.amazon.in/Tvse-Gold-Usb-Bharat-Keyboard/dp/B00U126ZGA

>>60265500
I wish it was available in ANSI, and not just that weird upside down ISO.

I want one with the numpad on the left, but I can only find them in the english layout. Anyone knows a manufacturer that makes custom ones? I couldn't find any.

Testing.

>>60265721
>Anyone knows a manufacturer that makes custom ones
contact Duck on the geekhack forms :^)

>>60265820
>:^)
I'm new, so I'll assume I should do that.

>>60265820
it would be very expensive

>>60265919
4u

>>60265893
If you do go that route, be prepared to pay $500+

>>60265721
switch to US ANSI and get a TKL or smaller keyboard and a separate numpad

>>60265721
Why not get a bare bones TKL, then buy some keycaps that match your language, and a separate numpad

>>60266474
For convenience's sake that's probably what I'll do, but I would prefer if I could get a leftie keyboard in shitty languages. I don't know why numpads are on the right to begin with. I can't use them with my hand still on the mouse and that's how I use my numpad every time. I pretty much cross my arms because I need my hand on the mouse.

>>60266612
they came up with the design before people started using mice

>>60266612
>I pretty much cross my arms
you know your mouse is supposed to be next to your keyboard, not on it

>>60266612
language input is based on your OS. if you buy an ANSI board it will still output to whatever "shitty language" keyboard layout you have selected.

>>60266664
Good point. I'll look into how to repaint individual keys. Maybe I can do it myself.

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>>60265721
Ducky has a left handed keyboard, but good luck getting one. You could get something like an apollo 22 mini, or a LZ-RV

>>60266699
what's the language? i suggest using the US ANSI layout and if you need special characters put them on key combos or toggle-layers. but it's possible to get some layouts which up until recently were very obscure like this swedish keycap set:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/top-printed-pbt-keycaps-uk-layout-iso-oem-profile-for-usb-gaming-mechanical-keyboard/32804826300.html

but don't paint keys you'll probably ruin the texture. get side printed or blank keycaps and put stickers on the sides

>>60266639
Most keyboards from before home computers had graphical interfaces didn't have numpads at all though.

>>60266699
you can just replace the keycaps. if you can't find any for your language you can always try blank keycaps.

>>60266809
Thanks. I was already looking through my chemicals to see if I have anything to burn the paint off with. That's actually smart and won't take 5 days to do.

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>>60266981
Just know that some keycaps are double shot, or dye-sub. If that's the case, then the legends will never wear off.

>>60254884
I'm looking for a cheap mechanical like the one in op's pic, and by that I mean I really like its layout because it has function keys but it's still slim.

What are some options below 30usd? don't mind getting a chink one, as long as it doesn't break in a month.

No gaymen shit. Gonna use it for typing.

Looked at the magicforce quisan but the layout with only 4 function keys really bothered me.

>Budget
$125
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Not really sure, never had a mechanical keyboard. I imagine brown or red for gaming?
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
full + extra
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Saitek Eclipse II

>>60267229
>below 30usd
No such option exists, but you can get close. AK33 and drevo gramr are 40 bucks

>>60267229
drevo gramr for $40 is about as cheap as it gets

for the best typing experience you'd get better keycaps for another $20-40 but just the keyboard with the stock keycaps would still be much better than a non-mechanical keyboard

>>60267252
>full + extra
no idea what extra means, but get a Unicomp battleship keyboard

>>60267272
>>60267359
ak33 and drevo, I'll check them.
I'm still using a cheap rubber dome that starting to break and figured I'll try a mechanical one.

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>>60267361
See the extra keys? Basically something like this, just 5-6 extra. I have heard the backlight isn't that great though.

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>>60259658
>even bigger than 100%
>superfluous macro keys everywhere
>needs shitty Logitech Windows-only software for full functionality
No thanks.

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Until navless layouts become more common i'm sticking to this cooler master board. Not in love with the brown switches, more of a clears kind of guy. May swap them out at some point if only for a project.

Can't seem to justify 300ish bucks for a group buy chink board

>>60267445
>even bigger than 100%
Just so happens I'm that anon, I woke up a bit ago. What's wrong with extra keys? Why does everyone hate them in this thread? Because I hate the MMO mouses that have those 12 button the side....

>>60267427
yuck that keyboard looks ugly. If you want Ducky and cooler master make keyboards with extra keys above the numpad, but since both are programmable you can say, set gaming macros on layer two, then have media macros on layer three, while leaving layer one as the default number pad

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any recommendations for a nice coiled cable to go with this?

>>60267512
take your old cable, then wrap it around a pen and use a hairdryer

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Replacement for this? I want a numpad for work, so a full size or at least with an aesthetically detachable similar numpad.

Also, should I go for MX Red or MX Brown? I find the MX Blacks on my 7G is a bit too restrictive. Most for funposting on 4chan, but a little bit of gaming too.

Budget is $250.

>>60267530
FK302 with matias qc

>>60267530
What happened that you need a replacement?

>Budget
<$100
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Blue
>Layout
English-US
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
NO
>Previous/current keyboards
Previous: IBM Model M, Dell basic 101 key, HP shit.
>current keyboard
CM Storm Quickfire Rapid tenkeyless MX Blue

>>60267568
>>60267560
I've had this thing for years... It's still works perfectly, but it is rather dirty so instead of having to clean it, I'd rather just buy a new one with lighter switches.

I'll probably keep it as a back up just in case.

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>>60267476
Additional programmable keys that are proprietary to the keyboard manufacturer have a lot of potential downsides. The main one is they often rely on shitty driver software that is okay at best and generally will become unsupported within 5 years as new operating systems come out.

Many of us, myself included, also prefer a smaller keyboard and additional keys go against that preference.

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The price tag on this is a bit more than I was hoping, but just a bit outside of my original budget.

Are there any keyboards similar to this one? Cherry MX Red switches, few extra macro keys, backlit (RGB doesn't matter though). Lots of gaming and lots of typing.

>>60267615
Fair enough. I like the full-size keyboard because I use the NumPad enough to warrant it. It's nice when there are some keys that control audio, not a must, I just like it.

>>60267994
Navless layouts are a thing, see
>>60267473

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>>60250333
And now? this is actually my keyboard.

>>60250363
Are you sure? Because the keycaps from https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/002capb22 seems be a bit more nice than the keycaps from Aliexpress.

>>60249792
I know that my keyboard is kind ISO (I love push that fcuking huge key ENTER each time when is necessary) , but I can't just make a mix of keycaps? I mean, I can't just remplace all the keyscaps and just keep ENTER and the other one key with "\|" from my original keyboard?

>>60268152
That top row looks crooked for some reason.
That F7 key looks way off...

>>60267885
Ducky Shine or Ducky ONE

108-key, Cherry switches, Programmable macros

Also, if you do get a 108-key and want an aftermarket cap set. You'll need four artisans or novelties for the media keys. Few sets have more than the standard 104

>>60268221
That is just a reference picture, my keyboard is normal.

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>>60255087
WHAT KEYBOARD IS THAT

Also can you guys give me your opinion on Cherry MX Silvers?

Also I'm looking for a 75% keyboard with Gatreon Browns can someone help a nigga out?

>>60267583
no one?

>>60254884
What's a good cheap Topre switch keyboard? I like HHKB but not convinced that it is worth 300$ (with shipping).

>>60268772
660c is 220ish

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>>60254884
My keys sometimes randomly dupliciate themselves. It seems to happen the most wiith I aand AA. I found something called "Key chatter fix" but the faster you press keys the more CPU it uses, up to like 30% of a 6600k.
Is there a better fix?

>>60254884
Anyone know if a 75% real Topre (not the knockoffs) exist?

>>60268772
Topre Typeheaven or CM Novatouch

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Is topre worth it? I've been thinking about getting a topre keyboard but they're expensive compared to cherry boards.

>>60267885
>RGB doesn't matter though
There is white led version that more cheaper but the same build, how about that.

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>>60268608
That keyboard is a Keycool 84 or one of the rebrands (MK84, Drevo Gramr). The Keycool version comes with Kailh switches, the MK.com version has Greetech switches and the Drevo version has Outemu switches.

MX Silvers are just MX Reds with a shorter actuation distance. I think the reduced actuation distance makes them very uncomfortable to type on and the actuation distance makes no real difference to MX reds when gaming.

>>60269049
Topre is just ridiculously expensive Japanese rubber dome. Not worth it.

>>60268829
There are only five layouts with genuine Topre

TKL, fullsize, HHKB, FC660, 1800

>>60269114
>Topre is just ridiculously expensive Japanese rubber dome. Not worth it.

Why is it not worth it? I've seen people say it feels way better than cherry MX or are they just trying to justify spending a ridiculous amount on rubberdomes?

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Someone has this keycaps?
https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/002capb22#

If you have it, would you please post pics and tell me where you bought it?

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>>60269177
Well if you like Cherry linears or browns, it might be worth trying out. Topre doesn't feel particularly tactile unless you go for the 55 gram weight. Really though the feel is very similar to high quality rubber dome. I wouldn't say that Topre feels better than MX, just different. If you like rubber domes, Topre might be a sound investment, but it isn't to my liking.

>>60269177
Seems like the latter. I tried a novatouch, which basically felt like a nicer rubberdome board. The travel was smoother than a generic dome board but they were still just kind of unpleasant mush and the upstroke is loud so they aren't even quiet. Tactility is meh and you basically can't avoid bottoming out when the dome collapses so you can't really take advantage of the mid-stroke actuation of the capacitive sensors (should be much more reliable than a standard dome though). Ended up returning the Novatouch and actually got a Realforce 87U thinking it'd be better with the genuine article but it was exactly the same. Later I resold the 87U for more than I paid for it, so at least overall I didn't lose anything trying.

tl;dr: they're rubber domes and they feel like it, albeit nice ones. If you're not into that keyfeel then they have nothing to offer.

>>60269268
>>60269349
I guess I'll go find a shop near me that has topre keyboards if there are any. Thanks for the response

>>60269400
topre keyboards are pretty niche. Only big chains like microcenter and ncix carry them

>>60269400
Only certain stores are allowed to sell topre keyboards. Here is a list of all of them:
Amazon, Micro Center, Rakuten, B&H, NCIX (Canada), MechanicalKeyboards.com, Elitekeyboards.com, and MassDrop.

>>60269049
>>60269114
>>60269177
>>60269349
>>60269400

>not getting the chink topre clones

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>>60269470
Elitekeyboards has exclusive distribution rights in North America, so Massdrop circumvents this by bundling their Topre stock with other items such as pens or IEMs.

>>60269481
If I was in the market for a Topre, I'd probably get a Chinese clone because they have MX-compatible sliders.

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>>60269520
>Elitekeyboards has exclusive distribution rights in North America
Only for certain realforce keyboards. You can get the typeheaven and that realforce RGB pretty much everywhere. A few places sell HHKBs, while stuff like the hi-pro, 87u and 104u are only available on elitekeyboards

>>60269481
>>60269520
The Chinese topre clones are quite nice. I've owned a RC930 with 55g domes I swapped in from ebay.

Anyone know any good korean keycaps? See the Japanese ones everywhere, but I'm a koreaboo.

>>60270325
EnjoyPBT has some
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cool-Jazz-Enjoypbt-mechanical-keyboard-117-keycaps-cherry-profile-hot-sublimation-black-on-black-korean-russian/32804461861.html

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All right /mkg/ I'm ready to buy a keyboard. I've done research, narrowed down what I want, and monitored this general heavily for more than a week.

Is there any reason not to buy this keyboard? I obviously want a full size.

>>60270470
Get the new one with PBT keycaps that comes out next month.

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>>60270470
>full size backlit bullshit
I'd go with pic related before I bought one of those.

>Budget
<$50
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Red
>Layout
English-US
>Form factor
tkl
>Backlight
RGB meme
>current keyboard
CM Storm Devastator

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a very normal, very standard, 1992 Model M.

>>60270512
Oh hey I remember those keyboards! Those were the main keyboards used by the call center I worked for back in 07-09. Good times. Stole a lot of money and those keyboards along with some other shit over the years. Glad nothing ever came of it. Decent keyboards but they had crumbs and nasty shit and was coated in three layers of human grease.

Anyway I use the NumPad, so yeah I want it full-size. I have a huge desk. What is the problem with being backlit??? I don't understand the hate for it. I imagine you can turn the shit off if you don't want to use it, which I normally don't, but it would be nice to have the option there if I do need it.

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Hello,
I bought this mechanical from a friend for 40 bucks. It feels really nice and typing is just awesome on it.
Did I fuck up?

>>60271033
Hue

>>60271033
I think it's vintage. it has a stepped caps lock.

>Budget
As cheap as possible
>Location (continent at least)
Finland, Yurop
>Preferred switch type
No preference
>Layout
US
>Form factor
60 or TKL
>Backlight
No need
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky with brown switches

Looking for a minimalistic keyboard with US layout. I'm fine with refurb/used for now. I mainly want to give it a go at programming because my local layout sucks, especially due to mac/pc layouts being very different from each other and I have to use both.

There's a deal for rather new Cherry G80 at 35€ but that thing is pretty huge.

>>60254935
>But that esc
try the following
1. map ctrl to capslock
2. use xcape to map "ctrl with no additional keys" to esc

>>60264581
i'm very happy with my fc660c

>>60271011
Backlit is worthless gaymer shit if you know how to type, and usually adds $20 to the keyboard price.

>>60269049
>>60269177
as someone who went from cheap rubberdome -> mech -> topre in the space of like two months, i prefer topre precisely because it's a high-quality rubberdome. there were aspects of mech i disliked, such as the resistance-feel of the mechanism and the timbre (not the volume) of the sound

topre is a high quality version of what i'm used to, and i suspect that people who are used to mech dislike topre because they're used to mech

i would never call topre economical but i spend like 14h a day on this fucking thing so it's important that it doesn't annoy me

Where can I get keycaps that have both US layout and Russian layout printed?

>>60268152
>https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/002capb22
that's nicer than the aliexpress ones

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>>60268608
>WHAT KEYBOARD IS THAT
Noppoo Choc Mini with keycaps from KBDfans

>Also can you guys give me your opinion on Cherry MX Silvers?
i haven't tried them but they're probably good for gaming

>Also I'm looking for a 75% keyboard with Gatreon Browns can someone help a nigga out?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gateron-Shaft-Noppoo-Choc-Mini-84-POM-Black-Keycaps-Wired-Gaming-Keyboard-Red-Black-Blue-Brown/32447217479.html

>>60271857
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gateron-Shaft-Noppoo-Choc-Mini-84-POM-Black-Keycaps-Wired-Gaming-Keyboard-Red-Black-Blue-Brown/32447217479.html
ah browns are out of stock

this amazon page has pics of the old layout with a different bottom row but check with the seller which version it is or ask the aliexpress seller if they're getting more in stock
https://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-84-Technology-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0091Q34EI

>>60271921
>https://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-84-Technology-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0091Q34EI
shit i just woke up so bare with me. the switches aren't gateron they're noppoo-branded clones which are good tho

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~what are you doing master I'm naked~nya

>>60269049
i think i'd get sick of the airy farty sound in the long run

>https://www.chesstiger.com/images/keyboards/Novatouch_fully_silenced.wav

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Thinking of grabbing a tada68 with gateron browns for work, is kbdfans the cheapest place to get one?

i like this guy's typing technique like a drummer or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKEeVcvap4

>>60254884
anyone wanna trade 2 Brand New 600GB FIbre Channel HDD for a mechanical keyboard

>>60267512
What kind of keycaps are those? I've been looking for a similar style.

>>60272780
The profile is called DSA. The specific keycaps are DSA Dolch from pimpmykeyboard.

>>60272805
I've seen different versions were some of the function keys were a bright safety orange. Shame they don't have that style.

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>>60272914

Are you talking about DSA carbon? You can get it from Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Carbon-DSA-PBT-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-White-Radium-vulture-Cherry-MX-switch-keycaps-for-Mechanical/32803021562.html

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>>60272998
Actually it's a style similar to this. The keys have this kind of rounded shape to them.

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is the hhkb layout legit? i originally thought it was needlessly minimalistic but now i realized that the lack of keys in the lower corners would let you have your palms closer to the keyboard which might be more comfortable? and i just saw this non-topre hhkb-style keyboard which looks nice for $95

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Hhkb-mechanical-keyboard-kit-anode-aluminum-cnc-custom-cherry-shaft-with-light/2230037_32719978752.html

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Why are these threads always seemingly the same 5 faggots all posting their same board pictures with some newfriend questions and answers mixed in between? Honestly if this weren't a general and more of an occasional thread instead it might improve the quality.

In fact, general threads are kind of like reddit-tier in the first place.

>>60273017
The keycaps in that image are "DCS" Dolch.

>>60273069
I had one but sold it. I prefer a 75% that has an actual dedicated nav cluster and such or a tenkeyless. I'm actually using an old BTC 5100C right now I picked up for $3. I was comparing it to my original buckling sleeve capacitive BTC 5100. The rubber dome version actually feels better to type on because it has greater key travel and less actuation force. Poor man's topre right there, even though you have to bottom out.

It's definitely worth checking out a few various kinds in a reasonable price range to get a feel for what you really like vs. going whole hog on something and finding out you don't really like it.

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>be me
>buy a planck (40%) kit on MD
>order with cherry greens
>order with blank keycaps
>buy a pack of white 3mm LEDs to solder in
>be waiting 5 months to get it and paying $150 for it
>be not going to have it for another 2 months still
>be fag whos never used anything other than standard QWERTY on a gaymer tier kb

Did I fall for too many memes at once? How hard is it going to be for me to learn as a qwerty only fag used to a full size gaymer corsair with browns to learn a 40% ortholinear with blank keycaps and greens? Oddly, I hardly game anyway cause im far too busy with school and work (coding), but I fell for the gaymer meme years ago when I first started building my own PCs. And, to be perfectly honest, a full size keyboard with browns is pretty comfy for coding anyway, but not quite as stiff as I like since I'm a big guy with a strong touch and big hands. (pic related)

I feel like its going to be a super tough transition, especially to get back up to par for my WPM and coding pace, so should I try to learn a new layout while I'm at it since I have to learn so much on this new KB anyway? Or should I just say fuck it and build the thing with the LED's and the limited edition MD green aluminum and sell it to a redditfag who wants a planck with greens and blanks + leds already built? I feel like I could get my money back if I really needed so I might was well go all out with this experience.

>inb4 blog post
>inb4 fatass (pic related proves im just a big boy)

>>60273600
For maximum memes you should have got tactile grays or clears instead. Less noise but all the tactile joy. I never really saw the point of blanks because when you use different keyboards, it's nice to have a point of reference. But hey, all a matter of taste.

40% is your maximum fuckup though. They look cute but are not serious keyboards for everyday use in any way. Best bet is to build the thing. It will only take a few hours. Then use it until you get sick of it and sell it. That way you won't be tempted ever again.

>>60273664

yeah I fear the 40% is going to be the real problem here. Think I can sell it to a plebbitor for > $160 if its unusable for me? Or should I just keep it for the lulz and fun? I'm leaning towards keeping it for something unique, even if I don't use it. I feel like I could have several redditors clamoring for a pre-built planck with greens and white leds with a MD exclusive backplate though

>>60273869
imo don't touch the kit, keep everything brand new and unassembled, if you can sell it for $120+ then do that and get something else like >>60273069 or just anything besides a 40% keyboard

>>60273869
I'd keep it for having a cute portable keyboard and taking maximum dank instagram pictures with. I admit 40% would be a tad too extreme for me, I took 2 months to get used to a 60%

>>60274014
or yeah if it's worth more pre-assembled then do that and sell it

Where to find Arabic / Hindi / Bengali / Chinese subtext caps?

>>60274083
>not russian / korean / japanese
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps/32694867686.html

>>60273600
heh, I bought the kit with matias switches, can't wait to impress the girls at work with it

Buy realforce

>>60273600
No-one cares how big your hands are, post dick measurements or fuck off

>>60274312
But I don't want to spend $300 for a keyboard that I don't get to build, customise and program.

Why do so many sites not specify the profile of the keycaps they're selling?
I'm running a DCS setup I want to know if keycaps I'm buying are fucking DCS, how is this so hard for sellers of such a specific niché to understand?

>>60274743
DCS is only sold by SP. If you're not buying from pimpmykeyboard or second-hand on the community, it's not DCS.

>>60274764
Complete nonsense, I bought the set I'm currently using from UKKeycaps

Will this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/108-key-PBT-Double-shot-Translucidus-Backlit-Keycaps-For-Cherry-Keycool-NOPPOO-Ducky-PLU-Filco-MX/32672953212.html

work with the motospeed inflictor? Also what does "add 4 key ISO mean"

>>60274778
So they made a single bulk order from SP and now it's out of stock. Very few other manufacturers do, they go to China or GMK for low sculpted cylindrical profiles.

>>60254884
>using pastebins for guides

USE THE /g/ WIKI! That's what it's for.

Put your guides on the wiki. wiki.installgentoo.com

Where do I buy a aftermarket case for my Masterkeys S. I want beige.

Might just paint it.

How are the solderless switch kits? About to try them on a project board I got

>>60274859
Just wait it to case is already of good quality. Use plastic dip so you can peel it off later eezzy peezy

what is a good 84K board?

Vortex Race has a shit topbar

Help me out Chang.

>Budget
£300
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Blue or Topre
>Layout
UK Qwerty
>Form factor
100% or Tenkeyless (80%)
>Backlight
White only
>Previous/current keyboards
Shitty Microsoft branded rubber domes

Something that doesn't have shitty gaymer pandering on it with stupid logos over mod 1 key or space bar. Preferably something I won't want to upgrade the keycaps on straight away.

>>60274083
Originative Co has an arabic set on their site

>>60275221
drevo gramr
noppoo choc mini
KBD75
b.mini x2

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>>60275603
also other korean customs if your budget allows

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what switch is this?

>>60275819
crusader switch

>>60275819
What does it feel like, does it click

>>60275853
>>60275855
It's a Cherry, I think it's the translucent or whatever it's called, not white.

I need second opinion.

>>60275871
nature white?

>>60275871
If it clicks it's a white/milk, if it doesn't it's a clear/white. Both can have translucent stems depending on age iirc

>>60275877
Those have transparent housings for RGB, they're a switch exclusively designed for RGB backlighting and nothing else. Transparent housing and translucent slider, only parts light won't shine through are contacts and spring.

>>60254884
I am looking for something unusual and I don't know enough about niche boards outside of the buckling spring, alp, and cherry world. Not sure if a board like what I want even exists, but if so maybe one of you might know.

>Budget
I would prefer under $1000
>Location (continent at least)
North America
>Preferred switch type
This will be a keyboard for pissing off one of my co-workers for a day. I want something as obnoxious as a beam spring switch in an IBM 3278 terminal keyboard with the solenoid on, but more modern. For reference: https://youtu.be/hK2cnxXauls?t=40s
>Layout
Doesn't matter
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Not relevant

>>60276070
Omron Ambers would be the next loudest as they are even louder then the model F. You can find a couple boards for like 150-200 bucks. The problem however is that they aren't well built so finding one that is in near perfect condition is very rare.

>>60276070
>spending upwards of $1000 to slightly annoy one person for a day

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>tfw you find an old mechanical keyboard with clicky keys and you become so entranced you want to buy an ultra expensive modern mechanical keyboard

>>60276351
modern ones aren't necessarily better in the way you're probably thinking, cherry switches won out because they were affordable not because they were the best switches

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my keycaps have all kind of dried jizz and food on them. Can I take them off and soak them in water without causing permanent damage?

I don't really understand how LEDs are shunned everywhere, but mkg likes them.
Aren't they annoying?

>>60276542
very likely, yes

what keycaps are they?

>>60276649
this one https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-keyboard-tenkeyless

>>60276545
Gaming in the dark.

>>60276672
>mkg
>not knowing where your keys are
???

>>60276545
Mkg likes leds? Are you browsing the right thread? Mkg doesn't recommend leds most of the time

>>60276674
You place your hands on keyboard all the time, do you?

>>60276706
Well they're all over the thread
>>60276710
Yeah, but I can do that without looking and still find all the keys. And I'm not even a 10 finger typer.

will usb type-c keyboards be a thing soon?

>>60276761
new poker iis come with usb-c

>>60276764
wtf is up with vortex and kbc

new vortex ii with usb type c
pok3r and r3ce no usb type c

>>60276722
Try lifting your hands and see if you could place your fingers in the right buttons on the first try, without looking.

>>60276761
the one in the OP pic is USB type C. I don't get why it matters though. Its not like this is a phone where the durability and ease of use is needed.

>>60276335
>not having too much disposable income
It wouldn't be just for a day, I would also use it on interns.

>tfw fell for the pok3r rgb meme

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>>60276663
should be ok just don't use too warm water or anything harsher than dish soap