>Windows 10 is bloate-

d

>>60239485
kys poojet

>over 500 of that 853 MB is pure botnet

>>60239485
W10 is the best windows at everything but it like to collect data and stuffs, no one ever but brain dead loonixfags sqid anything about bloat since apps and shit are optional

>>60239485
25+ GBs just for the base system.
You can have a full fledged Linux OS using ~3GB (browser, music, videos, office suite, etc).

>>60239723
Then why does my phone take 15GB with 1.5GB RAM, with nothing installed?
Linux was a mistake.

>disable Cortana
>Cortana is still using 80mb of memory
What the fuck did I do wrong?

>>60239755
Android stock userspace is fucked.

Go slim or go home.

853mb
How ? service screen shot please

>>60239801
you installed windows 10, m8

>>60239801
Cortana is used for search.

>>60239801
It's for internal searches. Someone has to index all your anime porn and Cortana-chan volunteered

>>60239485
Clean Windows 8.1 Enterprise use less than 400 Mb from start. And just about 300 Mb fifteen minutes later.
Deal with it.

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>installing windows 10 ever

>>60240012
... Also: unused RAM is wasted RAM.

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>>60240012
>>60240030
Meanwhile on fucking Leenooks...

>>60239485
>800MB
>Not bloated

Can someone tell me about Windows 10 LTSB? Is it a meme?

>>60240045
Apart from the actual RAM usage, your screenshot illustrates something that really annoys me about Android: "Android OS" and "Android System" including all sorts of things including random apps background services. Yep, if you install some app that pulls data regularly or does something in the background then it'll just grow one or both of those.

>>60240056
No it isn't.
But your life is.

>>60240079

>no u

>>60240045
>An OS which uses java every fucking where
>the only similarity with desktop is literally just the kernel
>fucking leenooks
Ok kid

>>60239842
This please. I've also seen some guy get his ram usage on enterprise 10 down to 350mb. I have no idea how

>>60240121
>So much triggered autism
>Greentext butthurt
K bud

>>60240134
>>60240030

>>60239723
More around 5GB not including cache (also depending on distro and which packages you installed), but yeah that's still pretty small.

>>60239755
>Then why does my phone take 15GB with 1.5GB RAM, with nothing installed?
>Linux was a mistake.
No, basing a mobile operating system mainly on Java was.

>>60240146
Ram being hogged by useless system junk is also wasted ram

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>800 MB idling

>>60239485
what are you running?

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>>60239485
Even this is bloat

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>>60239485
you forgot the "d"

>this meme isn't reddi-

it is, you need to go back

>>60240030
Unused RAM is RAM I don't have to buy. Windows getting bigger and bigger is one of the reasons why people think they need more and more RAM

>>60239755
my phones' /system is 640M, it doesn't even have 15G of space in total
and yes, it's the latest version, 7.1.2

>>60239485
tell me how to do that, boi

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>>60242029
>>60239485
shit, i've even done windows 10 lighter than yours, and i don't even use it

>>60242022
1/2 RAM usage in a system whit 1/10 of the features. Ok.

>>60242218
Yeah I'm sure he's missing the botnet and cortana """features""".

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>>60242286
Come one anon. Don't you want to talk you your computer and play video games?
Don't be a bad goy now.

>>60240030
Wrong.

>>60239485
How? Mine is at 2,2GB usage just after booting

>>60239485
Of course it uses no fucking memory because it loves doing disk I/O instead.

Seriously, using this with an HDD is like fucking a cactus.

>>60242462
true, actually
wasted/poorly used ram is still wasted ram, though

>>60239755
7.1.2 AOSP/Lineage is 400mbish, 1.2GB after clean install, it's your mental disease that made you buy a phone with 13gb of bloat not Linux
Closed-source OS was a mistake

>>60242200
>this trigger BLACKED lincucks
kek

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>mfw I don't even care

>>60239485
That's more than 10 times more cpu and ram usage than alpine.

>>60240056
If by meme you mean the best version of Windows 10 objectively, then yes it is.

No Windows Store, No Cortana, No Edge, The bloated is reduced to the same amount Windows 7/8 has compared to any other Windows 10 version and I think it doesn't have the Xbox App either.

>>60242779
i posted both of the screenshots
and the linux one is still 1672% less memory used

>>60242734
>tfw Lineage won't even run on my device
ok

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MATE is beautiful.

>>60240200
no, basing an entire OS on a nonfree runtime/sdk and then implementing their own special snowflake "JVM" like AOT compiler was a mistake.

Android would be 1000x better if it were actually running an OpenJDK JVM instead of their stupid Dalvik VM or Art AOT compiled bullshit.

>>60242200
>4.90 GB

Wha- What sorcery is this ?

>>60242820
Holy shit your font rendering is almost as shit as mine!

>>60242834
you can open an image and use the zoom function to see the real state of the rendering

>>60240014
memes xd

>>60242828
NTLite

>>60239940
Yes, the NSA uses it to search your machine.

>>60242828
>>60242855
here's a copy of it if you like
https://a.doko.moe/qiriwe.iso

i did make it myself, but as it's modified, i encourage you to scan it for malware or whatever, as i can't prove to you that it's safe
it also has no crack, it's based on LTSB N 2016, 64bit

ps. i don't actually use windows, so this has had no real testing, it may or may not work with all of your software should you want to use it, i did aim for a reasonably compatible featureset, but i have little experience with windows 10

>>60239485
Dude who gives a shit about RAM in the current year, even if it used 256MB how would that help you?
The problem with 10 is it does a ton of shit in the background that you have no control over.
The CPU can't idle in the most power efficient state, the HDD doesn't spin down, your laptop could wake up for a scheduled update while in your backpack and overheat.
Windows is shit.

>>60239967

>win10
>internal searches

lol

>>60239485
Matewithcompizfag here

853mb is bloated as fuck

>>60239940
that'll explain why search is broken in my stripped version (>>60242922), i removed cortana entirely
you should be able to use Everything, though, which is better than windows search anyway, imo

>>60240045
Java

>>60242922
What did you remove? This seems amazing, I might use it if it works.

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>>60239485
2 tabs open in chrome + discord

really making me think

>>60243006
basically everything i know isn't important for most desktop purposes, working from windows 7 stripping experience, if that is a thing
the iso contains the configuration used with NTLite, so you can see exactly what what removed and changed in that file
you can also use that file with NTLite to generate an identical iso from your own clean copy of win10 ltsb 2016 n 64bit, if you feel more comfortable doing so

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>>60243040
many many tabs open in FF

>>60243040
>Two tabs open in chrome and another chrome

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>>60243105

>>60243139
discord is chromium-based

>>60243139
Press Ctrl+Shift+i in discord and take a look

>>60243139
Pretty much any webapp is chrome based

Which is why they are all slow and ugly trash

Who actually maxes out 16gb RAM without VMs?

>>60239485
That's impressive.

>>60243188
I use a few shitty command line tools for merging Minecraft maps that seem to load the entire world into memory & that maxes out my 16GB

However if you aren't autistic that likely isn't a problem

>>60243199
No it's not if you do things like this on windows expect to loose quite a lot of functinality.

Busy look at microxp,tinyxp and tiny7

I was unable to install my drivers on micro xp for example

>>60243222
Ffs autocorrect

>>60243181
Even steam uses CEF

but only for the webpages.

Otherwise valve have their panorama UI framework, which is html5 based, but I can't say it's using chromium

>>60240200
This is why google is working on andromeda.

>>60242922
Thanks anon.

>>60242866
And our microwaves too

>>60239723
>using linux

i'm not a basement idiot.

>>60242022
>muh hacker wannabe os

>>60242820
Looks like shit breh.

>>60243472
you're thinking of kali (installed/used as a general purpose system)

>>60240121
>>>60240045
>>An OS which uses java every fucking where
>>the only similarity with desktop is literally just the kernel
>>fucking leenooks
>Ok kid
When is talks over OS market share (Android), yes is year of Leenooks

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>>60243139
hurrr

>>60239485
had 2gb ram usage from that shit antimaleware fucktart process.. i was using only WSL with tmux fuck that.

>>60242200
How, post your window 10 services please

My linux computer idles at 180mb

>>60244470
here's the NTLite config, which is also in the iso
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/clxdet.xml
the service list itself won't be complete though, as some services are removed entirely

>>60243222
Not the Anon you're answering to, but it's all about test and trial until you find the best lite version that suits your needs and works correctly with your hardware.
I personally would never use any other Lite Version of XP but "Windows XP SP3 x86 Black Edition 2013", for example.
[spoiler]Yeah, I know, edgy name. Sorry, I can't do anything about it[/spoiler]

With that being said though, I always thought Micro and Tiny XP were made for literal old Pentium PCs with really old GPUs so people could install any of them there and "revive it".

>>60244548
Appreciated, what was your reasoning behind making that iso with so much stripped away? Have you gamed on it?

>>60244578
back when i used to use windows, i did stripped down versions of several other versions, 2000, xp, 2003, vista, 2008, 7...
most i was just curious to see what could be done with 10
you wouldn't believe what i did to XP, tweaked the shit out of everything, even setup itself was riced to fuck (most of the graphics changed, aero cursors, cleartype, higher resolution, etc, i did it by manually modifying the setup registry hive)
i also got 2000 down to 60M installed once, booted in just a few seconds on a pentium 4 with an ide hdd

>buy 2nd hand laptop
>want to downgrade from 10 to 7
>7 installer doesnt pick up ssd
Ill take xtra large fries with that

>>60242052
>Unused RAM is RAM I don't have to buy

Time for you to get a real job, "Dr" Stallman.

>>60239485
>Win10 is bloated

Seriously, I've seen Windows 7 run using a tenth of that. Lightweight linux distros use around an eighth of that on average and take up less disk space.

>>60244631
set sata to IDE emulation instead of AHCI if you can, then once it's installed, install the sata/chipset drivers and turn AHCI back on

>>60244630
What do you currently use as your daily driver?

>>60244674
linux, since ~2010

>>60244687
Are you currently employed?

>>60244687
What flavor?

>>60244701
yes

>>60244707
arch (since 2012)

>>60244708
Are you a millennial?

>>60244733
i'm 27, so yes

>>60244729
Nice, nice. I honestly lack the time and effort to set up a good riced Arch distro so I just go with Debian/Cinnamon. Best of luck to you in your endeavors.

Also, you're a damned liar.

>>60239755
Android keeps the RAM full with programs and services you often use, so they can be relaunched faster (and to save battery with less CPU cycles, though I doubt that would use more energy than keeping the RAM full all the time).

When another program you're actually using needs more RAM than the available, Android automatically unloads from RAM the services and programs you're not running, from the eldest to the newest.

Also, the Android runtime and Google Play Services are HUGE memory hog.

>>60244752
What's your BMI?

>>60244781
no idea, not fat, not anorexic
i am very unfit, though

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>>60239485
its still botnet nonfree software with a disgusting ui.

>>60244809
Do you think you get enough vitamin D?

>>60244820
are you asking if i go out much? no, i do not

>>60240045
Most android phones don't have ram in the normal sense.
But I agree it's an annoying circumstance because the situation makes the codemonkeys think they can do whatever they like without issue because they can rely on the app-cache.
Which is why an application that displays images may require a splash screen.

>>60244837
Are you on a desktop or laptop?

>>60244854
desktop, and you sure do ask a lot of questions

>>60243222
>not making your own "lite" iso
its not even hard.

>>60244877
Are you heterosexual?

>>60240121
Android is the only Linux that matters, kid.

>>60239485
>Task manager™ ignores botnet processes

>>60244991
Use ProcessExplorer then.

>>60244905
Does it matter?
I don't think so.

>>60245017
It does actually, I want to know if this ISO I'm downloading was made by a sane straight while male and nothing else.

>>60244923
thats where you're wrong, kiddo

>>60245038
Believe me, (You) don't.

Why does OP's pic say 16GB when mine only says 15.9?

>>60242922
>https://a.doko.moe/qiriwe.iso
What is this again,is it windows 10? I could use it on mom's notebook if that is the case. She still runs XP and it does suck .

>>60245069
100MB is system reserved (underlying botnet services need ram to you know?).
It's most likely the OP with his stripped down custom ISO of Win10 removed those botnet services and therefor freed up that 100MB.

>>60245110
Sorry for assuming gender of OP, I should have said they.

>>60245106
it's win10 ltsb n 2016, 64bit (en-us)
keep in mind it does not include a crack, you will need to take care of activation yourself

>>60245185
can i simply use my insider account to remove watermark and then i m set? i mean it works with normal version.

>>60245017
Skype?

Big c0ck?

>>60245370
no idea, whatever works with the normal one should work though

>>60245398
Alright downloading.
It is kinda asking to get passwords n shit stolen + being someone's botnet client but whatever,it is not for me after all .

>>60245477
i encourage scanning the iso/installed windows for malware
i wouldn't touch some random modified windows iso either, but if someone wants to use mine, i won't stop them

>>60245553
Do you wear cute socks?

>>60245562
unfortunately, i don't own any

>>60245589
Do you wax or shave your legs?

>>60245605
no, as i don't want to have to explain to people why i did it

>>60245553
I do not think regular antivirus would detect shit when it is OS itself and could have just about anything preinstalled. It is not like malware gotta be 20mb exe file at desktop with already known source code.
The best one can do is to monitor data send.

I will wireshark it,should not be problem with fresh install. If I went full paranoid I could expect time-trigger to prevent such finding.

But to be realist I doubt someone would bother to do something as advanced to random people in /g while you can do Cat.exe malware and share it on facebook to infect millions of stupid people.

So thank you for sharing your iso.

>>60245644
What color are your eyes?

>>60245661
if you are going to go that far, you might as well just take the config in the iso, and use it with ntlite, generating your own iso using an clean version of win10
the output will be the same, i didn't do anything fancy with this one (that is, nothing before or after ntlite)

>>60245683
i forget, bluish i think

>>60245683
dark green

>>60245712
Who are you?

>>60245725
Rajeet your favourite pajeet
I shill intel and nvidia for all the /v kids that pretend to be programmers here for 1$/hour

>>60244817
>>>/reddit/

Ignoring the convo faggotry that was the last 20 or so posts...

Why does anyone care about ram usage in 2017? I'm sure there are a few faggots that will say 'I max out my 64 gigs of ram all the time!' but the rest of you?

Maybe many of you are too new to remember back when windows would continually run out of ram, and your PC had to use spinning rust over IDE for swapping ram data...

>>60245839
well just turning out chrome takes 4/8 gig from me.
Then i play some game along with chrome turned on bum
WARNING YOU RAN OUT OF MEMORY CLOSE APPS NOW?!!???!?!?!

>>60245770
>>>/v/

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>>60239723
>office suite

Would it be retarded to buy a copy of windows 10 pro right now? I've been hearing that this is the last version of windows, and I want to use bitlocker. Not meaning to derail the thread, but this seems like a good place to ask

>>60242792
How does one get a legit key and ISO for it though?

>>60246358

its the last version of windows that won't be subscription based

i'd avoid it and stick with 7 if you can

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>>60242820
No, GNOME3 is.

>>60245878
how the fuck is chrome hogging 4 gigs
it's sitting at just over 200 MB for me

>>60246381
Bit late for that :s

>>60246386
gnome2 was last good gnome version. they changed it to a touch interface after that.

>>60239485
That memory usage is terrible. I assume it's pretty much having only the task manager open.

I'd be able to use Chrome and go crazy with tabs in it before I got that kind of memory usage.

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Windows 10 uses too much hard drive sp-

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>>60247568
This is one of the reasons why my GPU-passtrough box has updates disabled and a stripped down installation.
This was my winblows only partition
>hibernate takes 8 GB
>updates take like 20 GB for some god forsaken unholy reasoning
>winblows itself is 5GB

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>>60247568
>entire enterprise level software suite running
>browser also running
>1.2 gigs of used ram
>7.5 gigs free on a 14 gig hard drive
I THOUGHT IT WAS YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP #17
WHY DO THEY KEEP WINNING
WE HAVE THE MARKET CORNERED ON TURBO-VIRGIN PROGRAMMERS HOW COULD WE LOSE
I PUT 500 HOURS INTO RICING MY SHITBOX WITH NO GAYMES OR INDUSTRY LEADING SOFTWARE
BBIIILLLL GGGAAATTTEEESS

>>60247662
>hibernate takes 8 GB
Possibly because you have that much RAM.

>>60242922
This iso is fucked up
I can't even install direct x
Fugg

>>60247690
You do realize it takes some pretty serious ricing to get your Windows directory under 10 GiB, right? It takes just as much effort to optimize Windows/NT as it does to optimize GNU/Linux, you just don't see many people optimizing Windows/NT since most who actually care about that stuff would rather switch to GNU/Linux anyways.

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So bloated is the new term for ready to use cached files on RAM?

>>60244561
black edition comes with spyware, nice job

>>60239485

When I start my Education, it use 1,6gb tho.

>>60239755
Because java is a shitty language with a shitty runtime?

>>60239485
>853mb
>53mb winkek
>800mb NSA

>>60239755
because android loads more or less all it can into memory at all times, it can and does easily reclaim all the memory it needs. That (along with forcefull shutdowns) are why those task manager type apps are pointless for clearing memory

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>>60247568

>>60248909
N U K E D

>>60248909
this

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India truly deserves a nuclear holocaust.
Fucking sub humans.

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Standard windows 10 install with nothing but nvidia drivers taking extra ram.

>>60240047
DELET

>>60243464
you are not clever sysadmin as well

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>gnome shell
>15 tabs in chrome
>sublime text running a project
>4 terminal windows, one running cmus
>keepass

U-unused ram is w-wasted ram

>>60242022
>Uptime: 26 mins
Nice meme...

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>>60251935
after closing the chrome tabs and unused terminals

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I just dont care.

>>60243040
>why is all this hidden telemetry so ram hungry

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> 4 tabs of Chromium
> Steam
> Discord
> PajeetJ IDEA
> No need for 3D games

I don't need over 8GB.

Full fat Windows 10 Home installs under 8gigs when you enable compact OS.
That's how they are able to ship Windows 10 tablets with only 32gb emmc.

>>60247568

wait a couple of months and then winsxs and installer folders grow up like crazy

>but it's not real hard disk space lol

tell that to every piece of software including windows itself.

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>>60251935
>>60251996
Either learn to pick packages or choose a different distro. Running Firecuck alone here.

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>>60246850
Depends on your distribution, CentOS installs gnome-classic by default.

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> only small programs running
> nothing big in the background
> 8 gigabytes of ram

> muh 8gb meme

> inb4 cache
it is used ram, not cached.

> inb4 chrome
It eats ~600mb according to Chrome's manager itself.

>>60243040
>>60257391
>In use (Compressed)
What the fuck?

>>60257569
Windows 10 received a patch like few months after release and it compresses RAM. Just like Mac OS X does.

It's useful / nice to have.

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>>60239485
It really is.

>>60239485
> >800 megabyte
> not bloated

>>60252116
> 6 of 18 slots
wew

>>60247713
Duh. hiberfil.sys is always the size of physical RAM for obvious reaons.

>>60248368
Most likely false alarms, I've never had a single trouble with it at all.

>>60243426
Come on anon, use your brain, windows 10 was free for a while, they wanted to bring people into it, somebody's gotta pay for the money lost there, and who do you think is going to pay for it?

>>60242926
My laptop came with win 8.1, so i installed 10 after few weeks and from that point my laptop cant go sleep 7/10 times
And i need to force shutdown because fan and hdd continiue working

Now im on lenux, and i can boot in 4-5s and poweroff in 1s + my favorite games and programs that i need are compactible with Linux

>>60246386
you have to go back

>>60259563
Blame the manufacturer. Not kidding.
You could also use 10 LTSB, or just simply 8.1.
Windows is not like Linux, you don't have to upgrade the core / kernel just to have fresh software.

>>60245013
> sponsored by microsoft

>>60259563
>after 8.1 launched, shutdown is now actually a shittier hibernate
jumped back to 7 in seconds
fuck that noise

>>60260254
>fuck that noise
What did he mean by this?