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I'm thinking about getting pic related.

but since i'm not an ant, i'm wonderif if 25" would be too small for 1440p ?
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>>60227083
Why would it be too small? I'm getting a 14" laptop with 1440p.
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>>60227083
Won't be small. People will recommend a bigger size to enjoy the resolution, but you'll still notice how good it looks.
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>>60227083
Hijacking this thread.

Currently have a 1440p 27" IPS screen, it's pretty gud. But I wanted to buy a 120+Hz screen, but it seems 99% are TN panels and the only IPS I could find was the Asus Gaymen trash that has awful ratings everywhere.

Really don't want to go back to TN
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>>60227118

But you're using scaling.

1440p is too high a res for 25'' imo
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27" 1440p feels just right in my opinion
but what's the best size for 4k?
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>>60227401
TN generally has better response times/input lag. I don't see why you wouldn't want that, if you're going 120+Hz. You could try and search for an IPS one with comparable input, but I doubt it would be anything but extremely expensive.
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>>60227461
The IPS picture quality just looks SOOOO much better than my old TN panel and it's not like I play anything competitively
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>>60227479
Eh, I disagree. It's better, but not better enough for it to warrant compromising on the thing that 120+Hz monitors actually do better. Not like you can't have 2 monitors either.
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I have the 2515h. It's too small for 1440p in my opinion. Used to do 125% but now do 150% scaling. I wish w10 had 133% .
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I'm so damn tired of every monitor being a compromise. Does a monitor with:
>1440p
>120Hz
>10bit
>IPS
>not glacial response times

exist?
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>>60227083
its the perfect size.
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1440 on 25" with 100% scaling is perfect
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Just bought a pair of P2415Q and I can't recommend them more. OS X scaling looks beautiful and it really helps with reading and programming (or anything with text, really). It doesn't look so hot on Windows 8.1 and my GTX 670 kinda struggles to output dual 4K sometimes. Gotta update that card soon. Highly recommend the monitors since they're only $350 a piece and arguably the most important aspect of a computer.
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>>60228137
This, no scaling needed for 1440p 25" assuming you sit at a normal distance.
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At which size is 4k relevant for a monitor? 32"?
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>>60229508
35-43" really is my preferred range.
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>>60227083

I use 24inch 4k monitors only for programming, fonts look real crisp even on loonix.
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I use this monitor and it's pretty perfect. Can split the screen 50/50 to multitask and it does work quite well for gaming. Although, I know a friend who has it and he has to use scaling to be able to see text properly
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>>60227083
My 5" smartphone is 1440p
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have it its great
27 is too big anyway in my opinion.
You have to sit more back to see whole screen
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>>60227479
Why do you need 120 hz then?
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>>60229581
which is absolutely normal since it's often only inches from your face, unlike a computer monitor
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>>60229531
Without scaling?
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>>60229645
Yes, 40" 4k is equivalent to 4x1080p at 20" in a 2x2 grid without bezels.
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I'm just about to get the bigger full HD version (S2715H)
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>>60229656
So 40" is the minimum for me. I don't want scaling.
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>>60229665
lol 27" 1080p looks like garbage if you've ever used a decent 1440p screen, the pixel density is just disgusting.
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>>60229685
You can go without scaling on smaller, but you'll need to sit pretty fucking close.

Whereas 40"+ is fine without scaling at a normal seated distance.

The dell 43" is probably the easiest available monitor in that resolution/size range.
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>>60229686

Consider that I'm coming from a 15" 1366x768 laptop screen
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>>60229711
it's the same dpi actually, looks like 2004
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>>60229711
Consider you're used to being much closer to the screen with a laptop.


768p at 15" is 104 PPI

1080p at 27" is 81 PPI

The 27" pixel density will be TRASH compared to what you're used to.
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>>60229630
>Inches away
I think you're doing it wrong anon
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whats the go to monitor for 27'' 1440p?

i want to get one, but idk whats the best one with those specs..
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>>60227083
My build plans on getting a gtx 1080 gpu, should I stick with what i originally planned and want. That being two 1080p 144hz monitors, or should I go with one 1440p monitor with above 60hz, friend suggested it. 1440p monitors seem more expensive just for one than the two I'll be getting in total amount.
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>>60229741
>>60229749

So, what would you suggest? Getting the 24" version?
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>cathode ray tube
130ppi bitches
bite me
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>>60227461

why do you come in here and automatically assume he wants a monitor or gayming.

Maybe he would rather better colour reproduction, better viewing angles then much input lag/response times because I'm a leet no scope gaayming god
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>>60230010
Because he specifically wants a 120+Hz screen. What's the point of higher refresh rates if you don't necessarily want the image to be displayed on the screen quicker? Just to have a more smooth mouse cursor?
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>>60229924
yes, 24" 1080p is fine.

27" really is 1440p territory.
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>>60230221

Got it, thanks
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>>60229787
How would you game on two monitors? It always baffled me -- at least on three monitors you focus on the center one and have the other two for peripheral vision. Where would be your focus on two monitors? Unless I'm an idiot and am misunderstanding the question, which is very possible indeed.
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>>60230268
One monitor is set as the main so games launch onto that one while the other is meant for having multi tasking, programs browsers etc on the side. sorry i I forgot to clarify why i wanted a 2nd one.
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>>60230375
so you only need one 144hz monitor actually, since the other one isn't important
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>>60230394
Just that the bases would be mismatched, I'll look at maybe a arm mount so it looks nice, but yeah. Save me money having one 60 or slightly above 60hz monitor and then the 144hz.
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>>60227083
1440p at 25" is 117.49 PPI
1080p at 15.6" is 141.21 PPI

This laptop display is just fine, and it's got more pixels per inch than a 25" 1440p.

>>60227439
>scaling
You're always using scaling regardless of resolution. It's not like anyone's used bitmap fonts in a decade.

>>60227461
I don't know why "gamers" buy those TN panels. I really don't get why anyone in their right mind would by a garbage TN panel now that IPS panels have become cheap and widely available. The colors just look so much better on IPS. Perhaps if you're a "professional gamer" and you have a dedicated computer just for that? But if you do anything other than FPS games on a computer then TN isn't even worth consideration.
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>>60230766
>This laptop display is just fine, and it's got more pixels per inch than a 25" 1440p.
you sit much closer with a laptop than you do with a desktop monitor though.
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>>60230766
>I don't know why "gamers" buy those TN panels. I really don't get why anyone in their right mind would by a garbage TN panel now that IPS panels have become cheap and widely available.
See >>60227461
>TN generally has better response times/input lag. I don't see why you wouldn't want that, if you're going 120+Hz.
And >>60230031
>What's the point of higher refresh rates if you don't necessarily want the image to be displayed on the screen quicker? Just to have a more smooth mouse cursor?
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>>60227083
smth different
my 2nd monitor just died, a quite old 17" one
I moslty use it to look up stuff, stream etc while I do the most stuff on my first monitor
any monitor that costs about 100 bucks and simply does it's thing without burning down after the warranty ran out?
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>>60227083
Just get a 23-24" 4k. You can get freesync ones for ~$350.
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>>60227460
for productivity 40in so you dont have to scale at all, like having 4 20in in an array.
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>>60230375
thats what I do. 40in 4k for productivity and video, and a 144hz 24in set as main for games. wall mounted so I can move what im using directly in front of me.
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>>60227083
I've got pic related, it's an absolutely cracking all-rounder. As well as general internet browsing and Microsoft Office I've found it great for gaming and CAD/Revit/scale drawings. Go for it anon.

>>60227439
>1440p is too high a res for 25'' imo

It's honestly fine. I've never found the need to use scaling by default with it, occasionally I will zoom up on a web page if the text is small but I have to do that on the shitty 1600x900 21 inch monitors at my work now and then too.
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Is NEC still in the high end game? Doesn't seem they're in the market anymore in terms of price competition. Still see some of their panels in enterprise
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>>60232299
the color critial market is still split evenly in between eizo colorgraphics and nec spectraviews
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>>60232319
Does their panel tech compete well with other industry players at this point in your opinion?
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I have the U2515H, overall I like it a lot, everything looks really sharp/crisp which makes browsing and reading stuff pleasant. True 1440p content looks great. The smaller screen size may reduce the experience somewhat in gaming and/or watching movies, but since I've never owned a larger monitor I cannot compare. The only downside is the 60Hz refresh rate, but you can't expect more at this price range. This is probably one of the best monitors you can get in this range.
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>>60232335
well I wouldn't buy neither eizo nor nec since hardware calibratable monitors with excellent panels from other brands (dell, benq) are getting cheaper and cheaper but when ever you visit a lab with something like a durst lambda printer you'll see an eizo or nec next to it
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>>60232499
Interesting. Thanks. I don't want to keep asking for spoonfeeding but what's the best price:performance model in that industry?
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>>60232638
well if you're serious about proper and exact proofing for printing something like a dell up2516d (the cheapest one that can write directly to internal lut using the x-rite i1) is a good starting point
it's what I use at home and even though it's not perfect (had to rma one because of a visible red/green gradient across the panel) it's pretty versatile, has incredibly huge gamut for the price and calibrates damn well
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What's the problem with having one TN for gaming and one IPS for media
Cheapest way out
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>>60232721
Thanks for the suggestion. Will look into. Hopefully won't have to go through RMAs
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Are there any double monitor programs that allow you to have one taskbar across both?
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>>60232956
windows 10
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>>60232991
I don't see any options to do that in the taskbar section.
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>>60233224
scroll down
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>>60227083
25" 1440p feels the greatest 2k experience due to DPI fqm.
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How is this?
https://www.amazon.it/dp/B01DMDKZTC/ref=twister_B01IBH5X78
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>>60227083
I have the 27". I like it.
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>>60227512
theres already in the market 120hz IPS monitors, wtf you talking about? IPS is the future, no one besides some autistic "muh competitive gaming" care about TN 240hz 1ms with crappy quality
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Why do you neanderthals keep wanting more screen real estate ?

If you insist on stretching out something like 4K to 40 inches you're just making the pixels visible huge again.
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>>60233924
I barely notice the pixels on a 27" 1440p monitor

40" 3840x2160 is 110 PPI
27" 2560x1440 is 108 PPI

So the 40" would be even sharper than 27" 1440p.
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>>60234088
you should get your vision checked out...
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>>60228049
He's a pc gamer with over 5ms response time

LMFAO
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>>60234121
Unless you sit WAYYYY to close, you shouldn't particularly notice it either.
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>>60234088
Both panels are "retina" (as in you can't see the pixels) at over 30" viewing distance, which is proper for panels of this size.

Don't bitch about being able to see pixels if you're seated 15" away from a 27" panel.
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>>60233736
>theres already in the market 120hz IPS monitors
What the fuck is this sentence even man? Do you mean that 120Hz IPS monitors exist? Because my posts imply that I know that, I'm just saying that they're worse for the advantages that 120+Hz offer.
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>>60230766
>I really don't get why anyone in their right mind would by a garbage TN panel now that IPS panels have become cheap and widely available.
what is IPS glow
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>>60227461
I have an ips with 4ms of input lag. The myth that non TN panels have shitty input lags needs to cease.
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>>60234483
Something most people needn't concern themselves with.

It's honestly only really noticeable in a dark room with a dark image.

If you have desk lamps and shit, or decent ambient lighting, you will hardly see any BLB unless you get a VERY bad example of it.


I've owned 5 IPS panels in the past decade and my most recent ones have been amazing for the past year.
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>27inch
>IPS/VA/PLS
>Great panel
>great colors
>no edge/light bleed
>1440p
>120hz
>Low input lag

Does it exist?
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>>60234517
And my TN monitor has less, how is it a myth?
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>>60227401
pixio 277
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>>60234567
>2ms of input lag vs 4ms

Indiscernible.ONce you hit less than 10ms it becomes a diminishing return
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>>60234592
Same could be argued for refresh rates, and resolution. That's a shitty argument. Either you want good input lag, or you don't care.
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I just got http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-27-infinityedge-monitor-u2717d/apd/210-ahgv/parts-upgrades
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>>60234611
If you think you as a normal person can discern between 4ms and 2ms with ANY sort of reliability, you're retarded.

Can a professional FPS player notice a slight difference? Sure. Will the kid who's got 5000 hours in OSU notice? Maybe. Will the average person? Not a fucking chance in hell.

Something that IS easily noticeable by pretty much everyone however is viewing angles, and to a certain extent color quality and accuracy. As well as color and brightness uniformity.

I'll take a higher quality panel over a slightly faster input lag any fucking day.
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>>60234668
>Can a professional FPS player notice a slight difference? Sure.
No he will not. it is impossible for a human being to tell the difference between 2ms and 4ms of input lag. Now 2 and 40ms, yes you can tell.
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>>60234668
See >>60234611
You didn't change your argument at all.

I sit in front of my 144Hz monitor anyway, so I don't particularly care about viewing angles for that.
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>>60234566
yes but they are not cheap

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&H=120,240&p=1
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>>60234668

This is what happens when people don't know the difference between pixel response time and processing input lag. Further misunderstanding comes from manufacturers pushing G2G transitions at highest overdrive settings as the supposed de-facto of total input lag.

That said, modern IPS panels are really not that bad in terms of response time. TN panels are noticably less blurry in motion though. However, most of the blur from both comes from sample-and-hold blurring rather than slow response times.
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>>60234724
I thought input lag is a combination of response time of the actual pixels changing colours, and the lag of the signal going from the GPU to the monitor, and any processing the monitor might do.
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>27"
>165hz
>1440p
>IPS
Other monitors, are you even trying?
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I've got a question.
Is there a point in getting a 60hz Freesync monitor if I'm getting, say, 80 FPS regularly. Or does it only make sense if I'm getting below 60 FPS.
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>>60234771

You are correct. Kind of.

First off, it's not quite "fair" to count the full pixel transition into the total input lag equation. The perception (or rather, the feeling) of lag stops once it's about halfway finished. But technically, sure, it's still lag since the pixel is lagging behind what it's supposed to be displaying. But all that aside, since we're talking about fairly fast transitions here, the relevance of pixel response time is more in that blurriness rather than the feeling of lag. This is why VA monitors can feel just almost as snappy as IPS monitors, but still look a lot blurrier due to more visible trailing.

Second, when people refer to "input lag", they often refer to processing alone, not pixel response. I agree that this is kind of dumb. "Input lag" should refer to a sum total of everything that goes into it. But it's good to keep this in mind so as to avoid confusion. If people want to refer to processing, they should say "processing input lag". It is what it is though.
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>>60234781
Considering the quality issues, I'd say acer is the better option. Same screen anyway.
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>>60234975
the stand on the acer is the most vomit-inducing gaymer shit imaginable though, so you'd need a 3rd party stand.
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>>60235010

You're not gonna find a 1440p high refresh rate IPS without gaymare assthetics.
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4K 120 - 144hz HDR 2 <1ms input lag OLED when
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>>60227083
I have a budget of around 500~600 shekels to get a new monitor. What would you recommend that is
>1440p
>IPS
>bezel-less
>VESA mount compatible

Preferably something that has some kind of motion blur reduction and supports sRGB. I don't give a shit about freesync/g-sync.
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>>60235056
> supports sRGB
As in "limited to sRGB" or did you mean Adobe RGB etc (wide gamut)?
Unlike ancient laptops modern desktop panels all cover sRGB.
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>>60235025
You can turn off the red backlight on the asus though and it looks almost subdued without it.

The acer just has huge red plastic parts.
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>get 32" fhd ips display
>use your gpu to virtualize 4k.
>???
>profit

thank me later retards, enjoy 4k for cheapz
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>>60235132
No they don't
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>>60235132
I've always been under the impression that not all monitors support the entire gamut, which is what I meant. I don't think I really need to pay extra for Adobe RGB.
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>>60235320
of course they don't, a lot of high refesh rate TN panels can't even get to 90% srgb
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>>60235211
I do that on my led tv.
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>>60227083
I have this, and it's pretty nice. Though I recently got the P2415Q and despite looking much worse, build-wise, the 4k quality is an absolute wonder to look at. I'd recommend you to save the extra cash and get a 4k instead.
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I have a U2414H.

Great monitor, best I ever had.
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>>60234700
Well I think he meant they would be able to tell through reaction time
consider how many fucking decisions they are making a second
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>>60227083
I have it and it's really good.
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>>60229548
I am on a 27" LG27UD68 4K IPS.
I would've preferred it at 32" for better native scaling. Even with text scaling modified some programs will have issues with it, mostly the UI in some games.
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>>60230221
I'm thinking of getting a 27" 4K 60hz monitor and run it downscaled at 1440p, because people keep saying 4K on a 27" will make everything too small. Is there any problem with doing this? Will everything look good?
The reason for getting a 4K instead of a 1440p is because i also want to use it with my PS4 Pro.
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>>60237879
I mean, it will work fine, games WILL look a bit better, but you'd save money and get mostly the same experience with a 27" 1440p monitor.
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I have a U2715H, it's the best LCD I've had yet, I won't replace it until some revolutionary new display tech comes out.

It can get way too bright though, I don't see the point. Brightness 10-15 is what i normally use it at.
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>>60227083
I have two 25 inch IPS with 60HZ refresh and LOVE IT
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>>60234852
yes
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>>60235426
>U2414H

I have been looking at that one, but also this one

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-B246WL-ymdprzx-Widescreen-ErgoStand/dp/B00QS0B9ZG

how would you compare them?
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>>60239106
>how would you compare them?
Well I paid $154 for mine 2 years ago next month and that is $250. Yours of course is 16:10, while mine is 16:9. My last monitor was 16:10 and I have to say that 16:9 is better for games and surfing.
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Hey guys, I have had my Asus VG248qe monitor since november of 2015. I literally just now found out that this monitor is a flicker monitor and maybe this has been the reason i have been getting headaches after a while playing.

Forget all that I am just using it as an excuse to get a new monitor. I have been trying to find a G-Sync monitor and have come across the Acer Predator XB241H for $380. Will I see an upgrade coming from the vg248. I mainly play CSGO competitively and a couple of other FPS games and can maintain 144fps.

Will I also notice a blur reduction? I currently use the Lightboost/blurbuster program when I play cs and notice a huge difference.

Thank you
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Higher PPI is always better.

I had a 24" 4K monitor, was great, just not that great for playing games, but that shit was great as a 1440p monitor with insane sharpness.
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>>60227083
what is the best freesync monitor? imma finally get past my 2x 7870 ghz for AMD vega. is that still ok on a 2500k?
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>>60227479
decent IPS doesn't look that much different from decent TN other than viewing angles, and many IPS are plagued with backlight bleed and poor uniformity compared to a good TN.
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>>60228639
I installed hackintosh and also want to get one of these. The peoblem is, in EU, it's like 500$, and it's more than 2 years old. Maybe there's going to be a new model with things like hdmi 2.0 that I'd really like for cable length.
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>>60240297
>what is subjectivity
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>>60227083
Don't .
Get korean monitor.
I have an QX2710 (1440p samsung pls panel) for 200$ and it overclocks to 120hz without a hitch.
if you are looking for a more consumer friendly option you have the the "crossover 27 fast" which using a 144hz AH-VA panel.
both of these available on ebay and punch way over thier league when it comes to value for money.
>>60227401
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>>60227401
ACER has some great 1440p / 165hz IPS displays, I have one myself!
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>>60234566
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>>60240469
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Is the Dell U2715 any good still? i know it apparently has a few small issues
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Not sure if it fits in here but could someone recommend me a good TV up to 300€?
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I have a 144Hz 1440p TN monitor at the moment, I want to get two more 1440p monitors to flank it. I'll be using the centre panel for games and the flanking panels for other stuff.

1) Get two TN panels, tune the colours to match the central one

2) Get two IPS panels for the better viewing angles and accept the colour difference

Which one, /g/?
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>>60240469
Korean monitors are 'great value' if you don't mind buying a new monitor in two years when it craps out.

Source: happened to me twice.

I won't even count the dodgy backlights as a negative since that's taken as read.
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>>60238076
But doesn't 1440p look bad on 4K monitors?
Because when i switch my 24" 1080p monitor to 720p it looks terrible, wound't it be the same with the other resolutions?
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>>60241393
Running your monitor at non native resolution is always a shitshow. Sometimes, if you run a 4k monitor at 1080p you can get away with it but in general you want to let your OS handle all DPI scaling
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>>60241736
But 1080p is the proper HiDPI scaling for 4K monitors, and 1440p for 5K.
I would get a 5K to run at 1440p but they're too expensive and there aren't many available right now.
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Unless they are some kind of obnoxious gaymen manchild, why would anyone consider a >60hz monitor?
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>>60227083

i have a 25" 1440P monitor myself and use no scaling. Best thing i ever did mate.

My 24" 1080p monitor has ginormous pixels that i can see from 6 feet away holy shit that resolution+size combo is poorfag tier now

Just beware windows automatically applies 125% scaling by default so you'll have to reset it to 100%
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Is this a good 4k monitor? http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-27UD58-B
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whats good in 27-32 1440p 60hz?
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>>60243262
4K at any size less than 32" is a waste of money. Dont buy that.

If you want 27", get one with 144HZ.
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>>60243355
I really do not care for 144Hz, i'm not much of a gaymer.
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>>60227083
Anyone know anything about the new Nixeus 27" 1400p monitor that's supposed to come out? It's $400 on massdrop right now but I'm on the fence.
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>>60227083
Why would anyone buy 1440 in 2017? We already have 120hz 4k with 144hz on the way in 2 months. That is like buying 720 in 2010. Just why?
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>>60246141
It's more like buying FHD in 2010, when WQHD was already available.
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>>60227512
I prefer high refres ips and will nevery go back to tn. The only trade off for much improved color and view angles is abut 3ms worth of input lag. Personally the difference between 2 and 5ms isn't that much to me as I am not a pro gamer by any means.
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>>60246195
What's the point of higher refresh rates for you then?
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>>60246070
1440p* FUG
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>>60237339
Scaling on a 4k 24 inch is literally just double the size. That is much easier for applications to handle than some 1.5x or other sliding scale scaling.
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>>60246245
1440p is about as meaningless as 1400p mate.
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How long do I have to wait for a 4K GSync HDR 120hz monitor? Also what is a good size, I'm thinking 30"
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>>60246267
?
It's 2560 x 1440. I didn't think it was populat to use 2.5k as people do for 4k.
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>>60230268
I have three monitors, when I game the midle is used for the game, the left is for irc/chat, voice coms, music player, etc, while the right on is for browser and any other programs I have running. That way I don't have to minimize the game to use other programs, just need seconds to move my curse to another program, do something, then back to game, all while never losing the ability to see and hear the game.
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>>60246345
>It's 2560 x 1440.
It's what people generally mean with it, but it's definitely not the name for it. The "p" would only indicate that it's progressive, which most resolutions are. With "1440p" you could also mean those meme monitors that are 3860 or whatever by 1440.

>I didn't think it was populat to use 2.5k as people do for 4k.
It's absolutely not, and that name's even stupider considering 4k means like 5 things depending on which standard you look at.

The correct name is WQHD, or wide quad high definition, because it's a 16:9 format and 4 times HD (720p).
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>>60246388
Yeah nah fuck off the 'p' is generally accepted to mean 16:9
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>>60246419
Same as how "could care less" is generally accepted as meaning "couldn't care less", doesn't mean you're not an idiot and wrong.
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>>60241736
Running 1080 on a 4k monitor always works perfectly since it literally just takes one pixel and turns it into 4 on the 4k screen. That is why I don't get retards buying 1440. You end up with shit scaling when viewing 1080p content on it.
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>>60246388
Do people even use i (interlaced?) monitors anymore?
>>60246419 is not me
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>>60243355
Uwatm8?

Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>60246205
the image looks clearer due to the reduced blur.

I like my games loozing good, and I played them just fine even back when most tn monitors had 5-10ms input lag.
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>>60246455
No you stupid fuck. The monitor is still progressive so the 'p' is fine. Your analogy is incorrect
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>>60246388
>The "p" would only indicate that it's progressive, which most resolutions are.

Since the rest of your post is equally autistic: resolutions can't be "progressive" or "interlaced".
The (video) source might be interlaced, but that has nothing to do with the screen.
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>>60246320
Leaks have it slated for end of this quarter.
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>>60246460
Most of the content that I watch is 720p though. Which is why I like my WQHD. And most websites are also build for 720p screens, so you have a great use of screen space.
I'd buy a 4k one if I'd buy one now though.
>>60246471
I think there are some people that are suckered into buying a cheap "full HD" monitor (or more likely TV) that's actually interlaced or something. But I don't think it's common no, and nobody with a brain does it.
>>60246509
See >>60246388
>With "1440p" you could also mean those meme monitors that are 3860 or whatever by 1440.
>>60246521
The screen can only display certain things though. So it's definitely relevant to the screen.
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>>60246508
If you want reduced blur, then you'd want good G2G response times, which are better on TN than on IPS.
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>>60227083
How important is freesync?
lets say 90hz monitor vs 60hz with freesync
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>>60241094
>2560x1440
>$300-$400
>2560x1600
>$1000+
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>>60246645
It's more important if you have a "bad" PC, resulting in framerates lower than the refresh rate. It will make those seem a lot smoother than normally.
Personally I'd pick the freesync one over the 90Hz one. Best option is obviously 144Hz and freesync, but I assume that's not possible.
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>>60227083
I found out there is not any IPS monitor over 100hz under 350$ that is 2560x1440

My gayming hopes are oficially dead.

https://www.kauf.sk/q/2560x1440%2027%20freesync/?order=2

save my soul someone pls,change keywords to something magicall
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>>60246793
>save my soul someone pls,change keywords to something magicall

That's because 1440p is a meme gamer resolution. Everyone is going 4K HDR now.
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>>60246645
90hz would (occasionally) fall back to 45hz if the GPU can't keep up.

So 60hz with freesync would be better when the GPU can render between 46 and 89 fps, but not if it can render 90 fps +
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>>60246809
>1440p is a meme
>Everyone is going 4K HDR

That's a contradiction.
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>>60246809
They only 4k thing I can afford is HDMI cable.
I would use my display port anyway tho.
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>>60246809
>everyone

Yup, everyone is spending 2K on a monitor.
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>>60227083
I have this exact monitor. It's pretty damn good.

If you get it, make sure you keep the response time in normal mode. Oddly enough, fast mode increases latency and ghosting.
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>>60246921
The prices are going down.
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>>60247044
The Asus and the Acer are confirmed going to cost $2000, maybe more for the Acer with all the eye tracking meme stuff they added. Given the pricing history of the 2K 144hz monitors, it'll be a bit before they're not crazy expensive.

Before you mention the Dell, LG, or BenQ, they're all faking it and don't actually meet the HDR brightness spec. The Asus and Acer do because of the full array local dimming. Only other HDR monitors that might be worth it are the 1440p Samsung ones coming out, but we don't know enough about them yet.
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>>60247113
So what monitor would you reccomend before prices go down that does not cost arm leg and over 400?
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Can anyone recommend a decent 30" monitor that's not a ripoff?
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>>60247113
>they're all faking it and don't actually meet the HDR brightness spec

What is this supposed to mean? The Ben-Q has a 10 bit panel.
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>>60247198
87% DCI-P3
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>>60247198
It means they literally can't get bright enough. The really good HDR TVs can reach 1,000 nits. None of those monitors even come close to that.
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I have a U2515h and a U2414h right now. However the differening models/sizes/resolutions and what not fucking bothers the shit out of me.

Should I replace my U2414h with another U2515h? Or should I get rid of both and get two of a different model? If so what should I get?

>4k 60hz
>4k 60hz + freesync/g-sync
>1440p 144hz + freesync/gsync
>1440p 60hz
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>>60247885
Forgot to ask is it really worth it to sink extra money into an already 2ish year old model? Especially when it lacks things like some sort of adaptive sync like freesync/g-sync or DP 1.4/HDMI 2.1 built in? Is there even any monitors that use HDMI2.1/DP 1.4 built in adaptive sync?
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>>60247864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIoZ_u8y3E

This is an example of what I was talking about and how it negatively impacts picture quality. All of currently available(as in you can buy them today, not the Asus and Acer. The Samsung quantum dot monitors might be better too) HDR monitors are like this to the best of my understanding.

Point being, this stuff is new and it's easy to get fucked right now.
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>>60246070

Nixeus are better with scalers and dynamic overdrive than most companies.
I also read that they designed the casing/panel mounting specifically to minimize BLB issues - small company, so they can't afford large scale panel lottery
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>>60249200

with scalers and dynamic overdrive for Freesync monitors*
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I'm getting a 1080ti soon.
Do I really need a gsync monitor?
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>>60227083
I have the dell P2416D
23.8 in screen 2560*1440
windows upscaled it to125%
hard to see text otherwise
works well in games and movies though if you turn off dpi scaling for them
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>>60227083
You can have command line, sublime, browser and a terminal on one screen but I find having Maya and Photoshop on the same screen crowded because of the toolbox's.

I have that screen and love it, only thing I wish it had was a higher refresh rate, and also nobody makes high refresh rates in 25" so if I buy a second monitor for beside it, it will look hanky.

Windows keeps trying to scale it to 125% though so watch out for that.
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>>60227083
How does this scale on Linux
Always hear complaints about Windows scaling
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>>60227083
it's perfect
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>>60250221
Windows scaling actually works pretty fine. The problem is that a lot of developers don't bother to implement hidpi scaling support in their programs.

As for linux, gnome 3, unity, cinnamon, budgie, and plasma 5 have hidpi scaling support.
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>>60227083
I have that exact monitor..shit is amazing.. its more for photo editing and stuff
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Does anyone know if this monitor is at least half decent? They don't sell shit like OP's pic in my shithole, and when they sell it's like 5x more a "regular" one.
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best 24" 1080p 144hz monitor right now?
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>>60252597
Viewsonic XG2401 is the best panel out there, not saying much though. Pretty dead category of displays.
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>>60252758
Actually forgot the C24FG70, which is a Quantum Dot VA. It's curved though, so there's that. Much better(supposedly better than IPS, even) colors there though.
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I have a PG279Q right now which is an IPS 1440p 165Hz 27" monitor. Wondering about upgrading to 4K at some point down the line. Asus and Asus have some 144Hz 4K HDR monitors coming down the line later this year at 27" but I'm kind of unsure if I'd want to even consider them because of their size, would 4K even make a major difference at 27" compared to 1440p?
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I'm starting a new research project and moving office. Unfortunately my old monitors have been requisitioned as I've been moved office. What are the best 1440p monitors I can expense claim three of? I'm a developer and cybersecurity researcher at a university.
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>>60253065
whatever the most recent Ultrasharp 25 or 27" is.

They're the standard for decent office panels.
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>>60253088
I figured as much, that's what I had before. Beautiful displays. Is 4K still a meme? I had some of the earliest 4K panels and wasn't that impressed.
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>>60227118
4k 17 inch here
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>>60253107
until HDR becomes main stream, yeah.

The 43" dell offers is the best of the current bunch, but that's just because I abhor GUI scaling in windows so 4k on a 24 or 27" just ends up being scaled to 150-200% which makes the extra resolution useless for desktop real estate.
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>>60252996
If you have $2000 to burn on one of those things, yeah, it'll be a lot better than what you have. FALD, Quantum Dot for a huge color gamut, and HDR alone would get me if I could justify spending that much on a monitor.

... having said that, 27 inches bis generally considered to be non-identical for 4K. 32 makes it much more apparent.
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>>60227083
That's what I have, it's great. No scaling required (for me at least).
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Is this good to go with an rx 580?
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16:10, 1920 x 1200 user here. Are the brand still make monitors with this aspect ratio???
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What's a good 21:9?
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>>60253165
>non-identical

Autocorrect, non-ideal. You can see the difference between 4K and 2K at 27 inches and it's pretty obvious, but most people prefer a larger display for 4K.

>>60253213
Pretty much dead. The ones that are still available seem to be based around panels made in 2012-2013. Pretty antiquated.
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has anyone tried using one of those new OLED tv's as a monitor, i'd really like to know if it works since i'm fucking tired of waiting for a monitor version, is the display very laggy or usable?
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Single poor Dad here, I just got a 1080p Dell monitor 24inch. Dell monitors are bad ass and i can't wait to get a 4k monitor from them in the future
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So I am looking to get a monitor for my new PC, I have been living off of a laptop for about 6 years now and finally am upgrading. But it has a 1080p 17.5" display and my PC will have an Nvidia 1070. So I was told to aim for a 144Hz monitor with gsync, my two questions are; is gsync better than freesync as gsync adds a decent bit to the price of a monitor? And With a monitor with a size in the 20-30 range does it matter if I don't get 4k?
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>>60253531
>is G-Sync better than Freesync

Depends on the implementation. Freesync used to have problems when frame rates dipped lower. It still has a range where it works and doesn't(G-Sync just werks), but it's better than it used to be.

If you're set on a 1070, you won't be able to make use of Freesync at all, so that decision is made for you.

>With a monitor with a size in the 20-30 range does it matter if I don't get 4k?

You will notice a difference between 4K and every other resolution for sure. Having said that, 1440p is the current sweet spot between being able to render games at high frame rates and looking good at 27 inches. 144hz 4K monitors aren't available yet and will cost $2000 plus when released, so keep that in mind. A single 1070 wouldn't be able to push enough frames to make use of 144hz at 4K for most titles either.
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>>60254926
So what would be a good compromise? Should I lower my hopes for the Hz of the monitor in favor of a 4k monitor? Or settle around 1080x1920 and keep the Hz up?
Im also not dead set on the 1070, its just what I currently have set, the build will be happening closer to the middle of summer so I am hoping things might change between then. But for now that is what is in my build.
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>>60255181
It depends on what's important to you really. A high refresh monitor is only really useful if you game a lot and play specific kinds of games. If you play slower paced games, a 4K monitor might do you better.

If you play things that involve a lot of motion a lot, a higher refresh rate is going to kick the shit out of a 4K monitor.

The compromise most people focused vidya appealing at the moment is 1440p 144hz. It's a fair jump up from image quality from 1080p while still having access to the responsiveness of 144hz(or 165 with certain newer 2K IPS panels). It's still a pretty big investment in terms of price, but I wouldn't expect to see high refresh rate 4K monitors for under $1000 for quite some time.
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Any recommendations for a 2nd monitor for web browsing, movies, etc?
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>$500 GPU
>$199 shit TN panel
Gamers, everyone
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>>60235056
Considering 500-600 Shekels is $150 USD I'd say you're out of luck
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>>60255391
Upgrading from laptop which I used a 1080/60 screen with. Should I deal with only one screen for now, expecting a good 1440/144 to go on sale in the next month or two or settle for a second 60Hz screen now.
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>>60241340
It's not the backlights that are dodgy; it's the cheap as FUCK chassis qnix slaps all its shit in.
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>>60256776
response rate is more important than color accuracy
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Quick question guys

I currently have the VG248qe 144hz monitor and am looking to upgrade to a 1080p gsync AOC monitor.

I mainly play CSGO and other FPS games. I get 200+ FPS in CSGO so would I see any difference with Gsync enabled as I am already getting 144fps to support my 144hz?

If my other FPS games such as PUBG battleground where I only get 70 FPS, will Gysnc come in handy in this game?
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>>60227083
2048x1536 (4:3) > 2560x1440 (16:9)

any manufacturer that sell 2048x1536?
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>>60257174

>this is what gamers believe

I once pitted my U2417H with its "worthless" 8ms side by side with a 1ms TN panel, mirrored image on the same pc. No one in the room could tell the difference in response, and one of them even got a U2414H like mine after that (same monitor but with an LG panel instead).
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>>60258587
I wouldn't go any higher than 5ms response time on an IPS, Dell monitors are made with professionals in mind, they are more for offices and photo and video editing not for gaming.
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>>60227083
What advantages does this have over the U2414H apart from the extra inch?
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>>60257174
Response time is a meme, mostly. As long as you're at 5ms, you really won't notice anything.

Input lag is the real killer, but you have to dig around to find those numbers. Most monitors are pretty good about that these days too, but there's still the odd display that ships with 20ms+ of lag every now and again. That's the lag you actually feel though.
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>Been looking for a new monitor
>Mainly just use my PC for gaming and watching shows

I have a budget of at least 150-200 quid but I know jackshit about monitors, I mainly just think one is decent if it can at least be 1080p
Could someone recommend me some or give me advice at what company or whatever to look at for a good one?
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>>60227083
I've had both the 27 and 25 1440p DELLs

and the 25" looks better with the 1440p res
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>>60227083
25" is PERFECT for 1440. I have that exact monitor and im in love. I returned a 27" 1080p because it was pixelated as fuck on close range.

It's a good price point aswell
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did i do good /g/?
https://www.costco.com/Dell-SE2717HR-27"-Full-HD-Monitor.product.100337050.html
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what is better ips lcd or ips led?
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>>60246141
those monitors will probably be more expensive than most peoples computers. 1440p is the sweet spot if youre not looking to spend a lot of money. at least thats how i feel.
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>>60227083
I have this exact monitor and another that is 27".
Both are 1440p. I prefer the 25" Dell.
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>>60264561

theyre both the same somewhat

ips led backlit is what like 99% of IPS monitors use...

never heard of ccfl backlit IPS monitors

tl;dr ccfl is like a light bulb, led is an led
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>>60246141

Because 4k on a 27'' monitor is too many damn pixels. scaling defeates the purpose

1440p is the best PPI for a 27''

27'' 1440p are going for like $150 these days. good luck finding an ips 4k monitor for that price
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Is 23.8 in too small for 1440p? Newegg has an Acer monitor for dirt cheap but I'm wondering if there will be scaling issues.
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1YU-00GN-00005&cm_re=acer_monitor-_-1YU-00GN-00005-_-Product
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Don't see a qtddtott so figured this was best place to ask
Recently my pc has had coil whine on boot up, I assume the graphics card but I can't confirm.
The pc is 2 years old and the monitor is considerably older - it still uses a vga cable and a converter. When playing certain games the graphics card whines and there is a mild screen stutter. The graphics card is a 970.
This morning I went to turn on my pc and the monitor just stayed black. Green led, but no bios or anything. Upon turning the pc off, the screen still gave me the no signal found sign that it does on usual shut down.
Is my monitor or my pc fucked?
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>>60265732
>27'' 1440p are going for like $150 these days
fucking where
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>>60253212
I have the Asus version of that monitor with an RX 480 and it works great, just don't expect to run ultra settings and get 60 fps at 1440p. I get more like 40 fps but I'm used to consoles and 30 fps so I don't care.
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>>60263946
Of course it does you dunce
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>>60267660
Probably shitty Korean ones. The good ones are still ~400
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I'm guessing 27" is bad for 1080, so, 24" instead?
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>>60268306
looking thourgh ebay, I still see them starting at $219.
Only some shitty ones with dead pixels are like $180...
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>>60268355
I'm an eyelet, it was fine for me. the monitor is a meter away from my face so... Idk
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>>60268355
20" will get you the meme 110ppi. I have a 23" and can see the pixels if I look closely, depending on what you use you computer for that may bother you.
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>>60263946
A higher resolution on a smaller screen will always look better than on a larger screen. The issue is scaling. 1440p scaling can be a problem but I think can be worked around with 3rd party programs, 4k scaling in Windows is pretty trash though.
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>>60264464
pls respond
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>>60264464
>>60268824
27" is really large for 1080p, make sure you set it further away from your face.
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>>60263981
Nah, 27" is better but 25" is fine.
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Quick question guys

I currently have the VG248qe 144hz monitor and am looking to upgrade to a 1080p gsync AOC monitor.

I mainly play CSGO and other FPS games. I get 200+ FPS in CSGO so would I see any difference with Gsync enabled as I am already getting 144fps to support my 144hz?

If my other FPS games such as PUBG battleground where I only get 70 FPS, will Gysnc come in handy in this game?
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>>60269198
>upgrading from 1080p/144Hz to 1080p/144Hz with Gsync
That doesn't sound too exciting dude, you should at least do 1440p/144Hz.
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Would a vertical U2515H look strange next to a U2715H? I've heard there's scaling that makes windows appear smaller on the U2515H. I'd like to get a second monitor, but I don't know about dishing out another $500.
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>>60269305
I honestly dont care for larger resolution. I just want to know if I will notice the difference with g-sync
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>>60240666
You Missed OP not want ugly gamer trash
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