PS3 Downgrading pt.2

File: n133RNX[1].jpg (2MB, 2988x5312px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2988x5312px

>>60216894
But I borrowed my father's multimeter and it seems that I am getting the voltage I require. So good news there!

File: vGwVoL8[1].jpg (2MB, 2988x5312px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2988x5312px

>>60216949
Full pic of my frankenstein Teensy with all of the wires soldered onto it. The only issue is that I messed up the color coding so for some of the wires but that doesn't really matter at all. I'm just going to have to be extra sure I know which points I'm soldering to.

File: 0sRBP27[3].jpg (382KB, 1500x753px) Image search: [Google]

382KB, 1500x753px

>>60217008
My only other concern is that at the top right, there is some leftover solder that might make a connection when I don't want it to. I'm going to try to melt it off or scrape it off. But at this point all I need to do is start soldering the Teensy wires onto the PS3 using this diagram.

>>60217026
And lastly my PS3's exposed mobo, with the points I need to solder right in the middle of the picture. Time to get to work. Hopefully I can finish this before I have to leave today.

File: deCaMIT[1].jpg (4MB, 5312x2988px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 5312x2988px

>>60217237
Forgot the pic

I have a ps3 as well but no clue what you are doing
Homebrew?
Is it worth that hassle or did you feel like playing around with electronics? I love that as well

I used an E3 Flasher to downgrade two days ago.
It's a piece of shit but at least it's solderless

>>60217284
He's downgrading to the firmware that allows you to install custom firmware and therefore homebrew.

>>60217284
Yeah, I'm trying to flash the chip to 3.55 so I can CFW it to get free games.

Well I use to own a PS3 and bought and played most of the games I wanted to play on it. I got this PS3 for cheap so I have no problem with pirating games on a 10+year old system. I build computers so taking apart a PS3 isn't much different. It's just the soldering part that can be difficult, I ruined my first Teensy board so I had to order a new one (but they're only like 25 bucks so it was okay).

You can do this without soldering with an E3 Flasher, but they're a lot more expensive, like $90. About what I payed for my ESD safe soldering gun, solder, wire, 2 teensys and 3.3 regulator. But this was I will always have a soldering gun, wire, and solder at my disposal and I definitely like tinkering with electronics. And you WILL have to reapply thermal paste on your two chips.

I'm actually sort of scared about the thermal paste I applied, it's conductive and if it ended up dripping off the edge of the chip and making a connection I could fry my board. But just don't use conductive thermal paste if you're afraid of that. I made sure to use as less as possible.

This has been about a 2 day project so far, and I expect to finish it by tonight so 3 days.

>>60217412
>You can do this without soldering with an E3 Flasher, but they're a lot more expensive, like $90.
Mine was $40

>>60217412
can't you just find someone who does things like this for a living if you aren't confident with soldering and downgrading manually step by step?
That's what i did, it cost me about $20 and i didn't risk fucking things up beyond repair
if you're doing this as a hobby project you should really start with something easier

Hey OP a few comments:

Your soldering is not so great, but it's okay, I've seen far worse. It might be related to the type of solder so my advice (if you ever where to solder some stuff like this again) ditch the lead-free solder and get some of the good old stuff. SN63PB37 is a great alloy, SN60PB40 is alright too, but I prefer the former. Also invest in a flux pen and use it. For hobby use it doesn't make sense to follow the lead-free way. It's a fucking scam anyway.

>>60216949
>Fluke
Nice

I might do it if I find a ps3 for cheap. How much do they go for usually?

bro why not buy a 360 clip? the i realise your using a nor console yet soldering. an e3 flash is $50, not $90. i think your wires too thick if you solder that to a ps3, needs to be 8 guage i think its called

>>60217814
just keep an eye out. needs to be a 25xx 1a or lower. ive gor some for $30, some for $60, and payed $140 for one

>>60217847
AWG (American Wire Gauge) is a kind of fucked up way to describe actual wire diameter/cross section.

The higher the gauge number the more often the default copper core has been pulled to a certain length. So higher AWG numbers mean thinner wires. An AWG 8 would be rather thick compared to an AWG 22 wire.

Also OP you can set your multimeter to Ohms mode or beeper mode to check if you shorted something out in that unclean corner area.

>>60217656
I like to do these things manually, and I thought this would be good soldering practice (it has been, my precision skills have been getting a lot better). I could have done that, but I'm way too far in now and it's so far been faster (2 day delivery from Amazon, 3 days to do this shit myself, as opposed to sending this shit into some guy on Ebay which would certainly take longer and cost more.

>>60217794
Thanks for the advice, I'm for sure getting better and I don't see any shorts that could cause a brick so I'm pretty confident that I'm not going to fuck anything up. My solder is lead-free and rosin core. Bernzomatic SRC300.

>>60217847
I did not know how cheap E3s can get, but oh well. The wires are 26 AWG which was recommended in the ultimate guide for slim NOR PS3s.

>>60217932
i dont know awg, but i think 22 is the point where its as thick as a hair but a bit more.

>>60217932
I already started soldering some wires on my PS3, can I still do that?

>>60217972
well as long as it dumps i guess, whats your plan for removing the wires from the ps3 after dumping

>>60217932
Oh i think i just got it, its fractions of an inch isnt it? (1/22, 1/8 etc?

>>60217972
As a german eurofag I am more used to the metric system, but hair like copper wire is around 0.1mm2 cross section and 0.1mm2 cross section translates to AWG 27 circa.

>>60218002
Yes that shouldn't be a problem.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge

>>60218036
No it's like there is a default thickness of copper wire that comes out of the melting oven (where the wires are produced).

That wire is pulled / stretched to a certain length, and that would be AWG1, if it's stretched to double that length it's AWG2, etc.

So an AWG 22 has been pulled 22 times the length of that standard length. Each time it's pulled/stretched it gets thinner (reducing cross section).

Sorry my English is not the best to describe this. You can read more about it on the Wikipage I linked.

>>60218036
I have a desoldering pump and wick as well, though I have not been successful in using the wick to desolder. I'm not worried, removing the wire from the PS3 should be easy after I flash it.

>>60218079
It seems to be called

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_drawing

... the process of elongating / thinning a wire.

>>60217008
>>60217026
>>60217250
What a horrifying frankenstein abomination.

great thread

i wish you success

>>60218089
please keep me updated, i want to see the desoldered pictures thank you

>>60218079
>>60218106
ah right, makes sense in an American way

>>60218089
To be honest I wouldn't use a solder sucker on the finder tracks. Those things can lift pads / tracks. It's probably better to remelt the joint, remove the wire from the pad you soldered too and then use some solder wick to clean up the remaining solder. Your Iron might not be powerful enough to heat the wick in a quick manner. That might be the reason why it fails for you. Watch a Youtube video on it if you have issues using it.

>>60216894
Did you scratch the 5v to 3v?

>>60218144
Looks fine, what's wrong with it?

>>60218043
So no matter which joints I put the multimeter on Ohms it beeps, even if the solder is nowhere near eachother or connecting to anything. Like see in here?

>>60217008
C7 connected to GND or D2 or anything like that will beep even though those aren't even soldered to anything or anywhere near eachother. Why is that? Should I unplug the microUSB and try again?

>>60218194
Yeah lol actually the 5v pad ended up falling off anyways but I would never use this for any purpose but downgrading so I don't give a fuck. But yeah I cut the 5v trace. And the multimeter is telling me it's all good, right?
>>60216949

>>60217963
>My solder is lead-free and rosin core. Bernzomatic SRC300.
Shit.
Pure shit.
Get some leaded solder. And some flux.

>>60217284
this, can I get a quick rundown on why should I do it.

File: schematic2pp.gif (17KB, 458x528px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 458x528px

>>60218205
Looks like C7 us actually the seventh pin of PortC on the Atmel chip of the Teensy++v2.

It shouldn't be connected to ground I think (shouldn't beep really ...).

Is the chip powered on (it shouldn't be when you check for continuity (ohms/beeper mode)).

>>60218224
it doesnt fucking matter what the solder is for a one time task. leaded solders not useful here at all.

>>60218260
google it

>>60218219
should be good since its 3.3v. on a side note your soldering is pretty bad but whatever we all start somewhere

>>60218305
>google it
no, tell me

>>60218205
>C7 connected to GND or D2 or anything like that will beep even though those aren't even soldered to anything or anywhere near eachother.
>dead shorts across your microcontroller
Sounds like the chip is fried and shorting pins together.

>>60218305
>it doesnt fucking matter what the solder is for a one time task. leaded solders not useful here at all.
Lead free solders are shit. I made the mistake of buying lead free solder to begin with and it was terrible once I tried some leaded solder in comparison.
Do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash like I did.

>>60218305
>it doesnt fucking matter what the solder is for a one time task. leaded solders not useful here at all.

Correct, hence my advice to get leaded solder for future jobs only. Leaded is superior to unleaded in most cases.

>>60218359
Not necessarily, if the chip was powered up, the port pin might have been set to "low" basically pulling the pin to GND.

Another option might have been, that it outputted a high signal to the multimeter, which interpreted it as "continuity". You're really not supposed to measure continuity if a device is powered up.

>>60218359
>>60218287
Like I said, the chip was powered on by Micro USB when it was doing that. Unplugging it fixed it. Now I am not detecting any shorts whatsoever.

>>60218315
http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?p=387777#post387777

Literally all you need.

File: DSC_0571.jpg (214KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

214KB, 1200x900px

Did this a few weeks ago for the first time, was kinda scary but it all worked out in the end.

>>60218406
Then you're probably good to go. Also see my other post as to why it might have beeped in that case >>60218403

>>60218416
Oops sorry wrong link.
http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?p=387777

>>60218423
OP here, what was the purpose of folded card/cardboard? I just used a single one for each chip, should that be good enough?

See in here:
>>60217250

>>60218423
Is that cardboard?

>>60217412
>You can do this without soldering with an E3 Flasher, but they're a lot more expensive, like $90

Probably about the same or less than the price of buying another PS3 when you fuck up soldering.

File: DSC_0580.jpg (109KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 1200x900px

>>60218423

After having everything done.

I found that the worst part of the whole thing was the lack of information, or rather the lack of up to date info. Most of the guides out there are outdated and the only up to date guide I found was kinda buried in google since it's too new and hasn't been referenced around the internet.

It's reddit but it's the best i found out there: https://www.reddit.com/r/ps3homebrew/wiki/flashers/teensy

I also found some good info on a thread there but I can't seem to find it right now.


>>60218536

It's just one piece of cardboard(not folded) and it's there to keep the tensioning bracket from touching the pcb and risking short circuits at the same time as It cushions the PCB from the hard metal that could potentially damage the board.

>>60218553

Yes.

>>60218559
So far, so good. Next time I might go the safe route, who knows/who cares.

File: Untitled.png (30KB, 784x571px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 784x571px

>>60218616
Are you on Windows 10? Why does my Teensy not show the (communication class, abstract model) part?

>>60218616
>I found that the worst part of the whole thing was the lack of information, or rather the lack of up to date info. Most of the guides out there are outdated and the only up to date guide I found was kinda buried in google since it's too new and hasn't been referenced around the internet.

Welcome to the PS Scene. I know that pain all too well.

>>60218616
>journey
A man of good taste.

>>60218674

No, I did mine on a W8 machine I have laying around.

And I remember it didn't install the teensy at first, it took a little while for it to appear on device manager but it did happen on its own.

Did you already flash the teensy?

>>60218423
how many solder ppints do nor models have? nand is 40 i think

>>60218704

I'm sorta thinking about making a video on the whole downgrading process but with a more detailed explanation Instead of just telling people to do this then do that. I find that if I at least vaguely know what's going I'm more likely to not fuck up whatever it is I'm doing, which especially Important in a downgrade that risks bricking the console.

Maybe I'll do it someday, who knows.


>>60218715

Haven't played it yet but that game is on of the reasons that made me get this ps3.

>>60218780


I have no Idea but If I remember correctly all of the teensy pins get connected except for two.

File: DSC_0572.jpg (150KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

150KB, 1200x900px

Another picture I took during the downgrade.

Dumping the nor and it worked first try though I do have experience with soldering.

is this the right teensy?

https://www.pakronics.com.au/products/teensy-at90usb1286-usb-dev-board-header-ada731

>>60218910
No, that is not 2.0.

Get it from pjrc or Amazon. Teensy++ 2.0. And a 3.3v voltage regulator from pjrc (might be able to find on Amazon, I don't know).

File: DSC_0574.jpg (232KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

232KB, 1200x900px

Teensy removed after everything was done. At the time I couldn't be arsed to get proper wire so I just used LAN cable wires which are solid and therefore kinda hard. Worked fine but made things unnecessarily difficult.

I also forgot to buy the 3.3v regulator with the teensy so I had to make do with a locally sourced LM1117 which works just fine but has a different pin configuration so you can't mount it directly to the board, you have to have it dangling on wires, accompanied by the caps it needs to operate properly. You can sorta see on the picture one of the electrolytics I used, sticking out of the bottom of the board.


>>60218910


Just order directly from pjrc: https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensypp.html

>>60218899
Make sure to take a few dumps just in case like guides say to.

Is all that shit really necessary? Is it because you bought a newer fw one or what? I have a cfw on mine but haven't used it for almost 2 years already. Didn't have to solder at all.

>>60219134
After 3.55 or so you have to flash directly according to cursory research.

>>60219113

Yeah, when did it I took 4 dumps and compared them against each other like the guides said.

I also kept the dumps in a safe place in case I ever need them.

>>60219042
>>60218992
found it slightly cheaper locally, but i cant find the voltage regulator.

is this it?

https://littlebirdelectronics.com.au/products/3-3v-800ma-linear-voltage-regulator-ld1117-3-3-to-220

i know you say to buy from pjrc but theyre gonna cost the same but take longer.

>>60219134
downgrade only. because they updated

OP here, gotta go to work. Will continue solder work when I get back or next morning and update how it goes.

Thanks for all of the support fellas!

File: ps2.png (38KB, 850x243px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 850x243px

My next videogames related project: http://psx-scene.com/forums/f19/how-build-your-own-ps2-bluetooth-adapter-use-real-ps3-ps4-controllers-wirelessly-your-ps2-127728/

Already managed to buy a raspberry pi zero(those damn things are always outta stock) and in the next week i'll order the bluetooth adapter and the teensy.

>>60219205

It'll work but you won't be able to solder it directly to the board like you would If you had the proper one. You'd also need to pay attention to the pin configuration which Is different from the MCP1825 which the teensy is designed for.


>>60219246

I'll try to catch your thread again tomorrow. Would be easier If you posted the time you're gonna be here.

>>60219312
so what do i do if i cant solder it to the board? im kinda just following the guide here and need help with anything not on it.

>>60219400
You gotta buy an e3 flasher which can be found cheaper on ebay than the $90 OP was saying.

>>60219312
I will be home 11 PM EST probably. If I do not continue work tonight (might be too tired) I will bump it and continue the thread tomorrow around noon.

>>60219434
its for a nand console

>>60219492
I thought there were nor versions too.

>>60219400

Jerry rig it using wires instead of surface mounting.

You'd need both the regulator's datasheets to know which pin Is what on the board and on the new regulator, and then you'd need to solder wires from the regulator to the correct spot on the board.


>>60219441

I'll keep an eye out.

>>60219513
no, im using the teensy for a nand console. i just dont know how to connect the non MCP1825 to it.

After you do this you should leave it soldered so that you can reflash if you brick.

>>60219576
ah right, since its only 3 pins its only 3 wires just in a different order? i was actually thinking of doing a similar thing with a nand clip (to the teensy) since the pcs for connecting a 360 clip to a teensy is impossible to find. if not ill just solder the teensy to the ps3 but im a little hesitant

>>60219592
Did you look up the datasheet for it?

File: Screenshot_2017-05-05-07-38-55-177_com.mixplorer.png (169KB, 1080x1920px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 1080x1920px

>>60219626
i did and it seems straightforward right?

https://www.google.com.au/url?q=https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Components/LD1117V33.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj61-imtNfTAhWJUZQKHRfQDOsQFggNMAA&usg=AFQjCNESSd32AFXkPAWQ3Wl9T6rhEi2P0Q

>>60219620

Yeah, just 3 and maybe some capacitors are needed but not sure If they really are necessary. I did put them on mine though.

Doing a similar thing to clip would be a much bigger pain due to the pin pitch, not even sure you'd be able to do it by hand.

Is there anything worth pirating on the PS3 from the past two years? I only know of persona 5.

>>60219899
figured as muxh. i tried to get one of the boards from the guy that prints them but he vanished once i asked hoe much. really think capacitors are necessary? i havent done this stuff on this scale before

>>60219941

I'm not totally sure if you need the caps since what's on the board could possibly be enough but if wanna be absolutely sure you're better off with the caps, or just getting the proper voltage regulator.

OP here! I'm back and ready to continue my work. Will update when I begin the process of flashing/dumping, or if I've horrifically fail and brick my PS3 haha.

Anon who had the idea to use the multimeter to detect shorts, I love you so much. It has been super helpful so far.

Bump. Almost done soldering. Also checking for shorts. Should be done in an hour or two.

Is the super slim downgradeable yet?

All Google shows are scam sites

Last time I checked you needed a ode

>>60224149
Doesn't seem possible since they came out after the 3.55 firmware.

File: cQelzeu[1].jpg (2MB, 2988x5312px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2988x5312px

Everything is now soldered, time to re check for shorts again and then start the flashing process!

>>60218079
Burger here, did not know this, thanks!

>>60224628
I'm saving this pic to show my brother. Looks like a nightmare, I wish you luck.

>>60224628
Okay, that's not right. I'm going to recheck the connections tomorrow morning.

File: NOR.png (21KB, 979x509px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 979x509px

>>60224848
This is what I meant, the NOR chip shouldn't be unknown. But I see a disconnected wire and a possible shorted area so it should be an easy fix. We'll try again tomorrow. Good night everyone.

>>60224894

Yeah, you dun goofed. Good luck rechecking the wires.

Why bother? MGO2 is coming back for OFW this summer.

>>60226128

But cfws can go into psn without getting banned, what difference would there be with MGO?

Use the e3 flasher fucktard its super easy its legos

>>60226286

>doing things the easy boring way when you can do it the hard slow fun way

The fuck you doing on /g/? Just get a mac and fuck off to facebook.

I bought an e3 flasher and dumped whatever, then when I tried to flash it the clip died and started to solder it (e3 also comes with a board like the teensy), when I had 4 or 5 connections left to solder a wire in the fucking middle of the mess came out and I just gave up.

All the guides you can find about hacking the ps3 are terrible wasted too much time on that shit.

>>60224628

God what a spiders nest.

Hope you don't get fucked like I was. I modded two PS3 consoles and they both died within a week of each-other.

Fucking 60GB models. Both the best and worst model at the same time.

>>60226672

But the mod didn't have anything to do with it dying then? Those things were prone to dying...

Also op's seems to be a slim, so the chances of it suiciding are slim to none.

sorry, i had to do it

File: IMG_20170204_183822.jpg (637KB, 1080x1440px) Image search: [Google]

637KB, 1080x1440px

>tfw just bought a 45nm slim PS3 because fuck this shit I can't solder

>>60227130

Whatever the thermal paste sony used was, it sucked balls. Mine was rock hard when I opened it.

Not bumb.

Update: I removed all of the solder points and am now rechecking the teensy for proper wire soldering. I see some blemishes and I'm going to try one more time, and if it doesn't work then I'm going to just buy an E3.

Oh god, it's been years. Why are you needing hardware for this?

Did I forget to release the metldr.2 keys as well as the bootldr roots?

>>60230859

Yes, you did.

>>60230635

Just do it more calmly, you probably just misplaced a wire or something.

>>60230635
>>60231403
How hard is the soldering process? This looks like something fun to do but I doubt my soldering skill are up to snuff.

>>60231475

Not terribly hard, it's that there are a lot of wires in a small space as well as a bunch of unlabeled test points which the wires are connected but not all of them actually get connected. If you're experienced with soldering it's just a time consuming job, if you're not, it's not one of the best ways to start learning though definitely not impossible.

>>60231758

Forgot to add that, for reference, the teensy board Is about the size of a AA battery. In pictures it looks big but it actually is quite small.

>>60216894
This is some good shit, OP.

Is it possible to use this method to downgrade a PS3 to the point where you can install Linux on it? CELL interests me a lot and since these things are dirt cheap any more, I would love a small cluster.

>>60232016
I think I saw the CFW has support for otherOS when I was looking around. From what I remember though, the PS3 is pretty shitty performance/W nowadays though.

File: DSC_0592.jpg (184KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 1200x900px

>>60231945

I was kinda bored so I took a picture of it.

File: DSC_0594.jpg (237KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

237KB, 1200x900px

>>60232053

Also tried to take a picture of my voltage regulator setup. You can't really see it because It's buried beneath a capacitor and a bunch of hot glue but you can at least see the wires used to connect it to the board.

>>60232053
Looks about the size of an arduino nano. I had to solder wires onto one a while ago and it was a PITA.

>>60232081

Soldering to the teensy isn't that bad really, the hard Is soldering to the PS3. Probably wouldn't have been able to do it without a pair of tweezers.

OP here, only 6 more points to go on the PS3. This time it's looking a lot more cleaner, but it's been really hard and cluttered so far.

>>60233520

So did it work?

File: nor.png (21KB, 983x509px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 983x509px

>>60233915
No. I don't understand, do I have to turn on my PS3?

>>60234206

>do I have to turn on my PS3?


Well yeah, how are you supposed to power to memory chip?

You have to turn on the ps3 and right after that plug in the teensy to usb. The vidogame should do nothing and nothing will show onscreen.

>>60234206
You sure you were using the right motherboard diagram?

>>60234282

And since you're turning the ps3 on the heatsinks need to be on the cpu and gpu with thermal compound and have the tensioning backlate properly installed.

>>60234282
How do I even turn on the PS3? I disconnected the power button.

File: DSC_0570.jpg (207KB, 1200x900px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 1200x900px

>>60234349

Just plug it back in? My setup.

Also be careful not to short anything under de power switch board with the motherboard pcb, put a piece of paper or something insulating under it.

>>60234413


Forgot to say that you need to have everything plugged in including the BD drive. Only unecessary thing are the wifi and bluetooth antennas.

>>60234282
Fuck yes Anon you're the best!

File: nor.png (22KB, 976x511px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 976x511px

>>60234445

>>60234464

Good, now get at least three dumps and compare them on that editor program before using those checking programs.

File: fuck.png (39KB, 731x558px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 731x558px

>>60234495
SHIT, why do they differ?

>>60234433
Oh well I don't have everything plugged in, I'll do that now. Should I also plug in the HDMI?

>>60234580

You either fucked something up or maybe wires are too long. Mine where all exactly the same.

Just to be sure try using HxD: https://mh-nexus.de/en/hxd/

following this guide: http://psx-scene.com/forums/f263/ultimate-fool-proof-guide-ps3-hardware-downgrading-104398/#post984839

(it's on part E. of verify dumps)

>>60234731

You don't really need to, I just used it to check if it really went into tristate mode.

>>60234744
>wires too long
My wires are HELLA long. Do you think that's it?

>>60234767
>>60234731
From memory they don't fully boot without a monitor connected. Not sure if it will make a diff. Just a note.

>>60234974

Possibly, the shorter the better. Obviously not too short to the point of making it cumbersome but still not horribly long.

Before redoing the whole thing again try comparing it on HxD and make sure that the console Is going into tristate mode(boot is interrupted therefore nothing appears on screen)

>>60235033

That's on the xbox 360 and only with component cables or HDMI, pretty sure PS3 doesn't have that issue.

Let me check just to be sure.

>>60235059

Just tried It and it boots as usual.

>>60216894
Have you killed your PS3 yet?

Well fuck. I will make my last attempt tomorrow. Might as well just have bought an E3 flasher, this is just too much work.

>>60235856

Heh, if this thread is still up by then i'll be here to help out.