Why AMD isn't so Ryzen

>>60211594
>inb4
>R-Ryzen was released in the middle of the quarter just wait for Q2
>S-Still a good buy

>>60211708
I wonder who's the "sell" analyst?

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What the fuck does this have to do with ryzen being good or not? Any number of factors can affect that stock value.

Also ryzen turned out to be so good that the only intel CPU worth getting now is the Pentium G4560 if all you do is play video games in your moms basement all day.

>>60211594
Please god let this piece of shit company die.

>>60211910
Looks like it will be a fun ride down back to reality.

>>60212289
Nah, Goldenjews rate it around $10, it'll stay there for a bit and bounce back by Q3

>>60212289
Intel CPU's have small government-embedded CPUs inside of them. These embedded CPUs can control the peripherals and hardware of practically any machine. This means that even if you install OpenBSD the government can still look at you through your webcam, keylog, access your hard drive, send data back to them, etc.

Do gaming benchmarks really affect the perception of a CPU's performance that much?

Awesome. Just bought 200 more share.

AMDs current stock price is still 4 times as high as before Ryzen.

Vega comes out end of this quarter. Ryzen for servers is Q2 as well. End of year AMD will release Vega/Ryzen-Ravenridge for laptops.

If AMD keeps up the pace it will be at $20 per share around next year.

>>60212326
Goldenjews just wants to pump and dump you suckers like the rest of them

that means buy now

The issue is there's no reason to get Ryzen for the average gaymer. The entire argument for Ryzen is that it's great at production and work, and it's "good enough" for games.

Paying the same price or more for less performance that is "good enough" isn't flying with consumers or critics especially when you market it as a gaming CPU. When a 7700k thrashes any cpu from the Ryzen series in games and that "good enough" 80FPS will soon fall even lower as games get demanding with time. Meanwhile the 7700k owners who were getting 150 FPS are sitting comfy with plenty of head room.

>>60212444
R5 is competitive with the non-K i5's. There is a reason for the average gamer to get Ryzen, as not everyone can afford a 7700K.

>>60212444
This

Ryzen being almost as good as Intel processors is not nearly enough

Only rabid AMD fans are buying it

Only legitimate reason to own Ryzen is for doing heavy amounts of encoding & rendering

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>>60212484
>i5-k
>competitive

You know the line is dead when BOTH Burke and Salazar tell you there's no point in i5's anymore.

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>>60212516
i5s are actually a better deal than Ryzen in most cases

The K is actually one of the worse deals, the rest of them actually fare better due to the price.

>>60212531
>cost per FPS
The fuck

>>60212531
Fuck. I'm selling my 6700k and getting a 7350k. What more do you need, right?

>>60212531
According to your chart the 7700k is worthless.

What a shitty chart.

>source: PC gamer

Of course

>>60212594
Clearly you are retarded

>>60212531
>i5s are actually a better deal than Ryzen in most cases
Good thing the rest of the world doesn't share your retardation.

>>60212531

Doesn't take into consideration that the 1500 is cooler and takes less energy.
Also you get the better cooler if you buy the boxed version.
So from a monetary point they are the same.

>>60212943
Who cares about fucking i3's and literal who i5's
Even the lowend 4 core Ryzens are bad buys, hence being the least popular chips sold.

>>60212531

>2 cores

JUST

>>60212380
Yea, probably. But those benchmarks usually include non-gaming ones too.

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>>60212531
>cost per FPS

holy fuck have we reached a new level of retardation

>>60212343
Lel paranoid much

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>>60211594
AMD is heading where it belongs.

>>60211716
citigroup is one as they have it pegged at only worth 4$

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Ryzen btfoioiooooo

Lul pajeets poo

>>60212343
>>60214162
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel

>>60214313

This is what Inteljews are painting in front of intelshills

>>60212416
I would have pulled out till after vega came out as the market analysts peg amd not competing with nvidia on the gpu front a fairly highly.

>>60214340
hurrr durrr im worthless nothing to hide durrr

>>60212510
intel is losing marketshare to amd without amd even being sold through oems yet.

>>60214313
>that image

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>>60214345

>>60214059
I actually like the TR-style scatter plots.
A flat fps/$ figure is retarded though.

>>60212531
This chart is posted by the same retarded shill over and over in every fucking thread. Also it fails to take into account motherboard costs and lack of stock coolers.

>>60212444
lets look at it this way, with a podcast playing or some video in the background going while I play a game, my 8 core ryzen will be able to offload the 5-10% cpu use to non game cores, meanwhile over on a 4 core intel that 5-10% background use is 10-20% and shaves that % right off of top of any fps chart while ryzen is unaffected.

not only that, intel is pegging 100% across all cores, and when the cpu is the bottleneck, your player experience is notably worse then when the gpu is.

>>60214401

enjoy your 8 extra fps for $500

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>>60212444
Kill yourself, you lying Shekelchaser.

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>>60212510
>Almost as good

>>60211925
^ Senpai

>>60214431
Intel motherboards are even cheaper than Ryzen and all the non-K processors come with coolers

No matter how you stack it, Ryzen is a bad deal

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>>60214503

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>>60214401

>>60214313
Oh this is great

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>>60214572
New one

>>60214572

oy vey antisemite

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>>60214503
>8 extra fps
More like 200 extra fps for $300 less

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AMD fags are so insane, they're just like libtards, trying to create fake news to distort reality

>>60214588
Oyyyyyy delet

>>60214541
>1xxxxxxxxxx.jpg
>same retarded benches with a 480

Smells hard of poo in here

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>>60214572
>>60214588
>tfw buy 1700x like /g/ told me to and its slower than the cheaper 6700k and 7700k

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>>60214531
>cpu test
>using a 970

>>60211628
>S-Still a good buy
good bye?

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>>60214622

>>60214656
>amd flagship loses to 1 year old i5
As expected

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>>60214602

both can play this game

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>>60214646

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>>60214671

>>60212265
Enjoy paying 1000$ for a pentium.

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>>60214678
>cinebench
>synthetic benchmark vs real world tests
Poo in loo

>>60211594
Because of the high TDP of her processors.

>>60214719
You dumbfuck, the best thing that can happen for prices is for AMD to die.

Then Intel gets broken up due to monopoly laws and we finally get real competition.

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>>60214722

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>everything I don't like is rigged

t. intelshills

intel inside, kidney outside

>>60214707
>6 core 12 thread cpu
>vs a 4 core and that's it cpu
>still manages to lose

Go away randomnumers.jpg shill, no one's falling for your poo

Prey will be well optimized for ryzen which will give a better idea of what to expect in the future. Although it seems to be quite lightweight game for cpu usage.

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>>60214733

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>>60214751

>>60214452
A podcast or video taking 10-20% of a 7700k? Retard. The vast majority of background programs use dick for CPU compared to what a 7700k is packing. RAM is more important.

>>60214722
>why are you not comparing intel CPU's in the only performance they can even compete?

>>60214740
Lul what a piece of shit amd is. $600 cpu trashed by a $350 half core intel

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>>60214778

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>>60214780
>>60214789

>>60214789
Is it better to do software encode or hardware encode?

Have a 6700k and a 290x.

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>>60214794

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>>60214824
>>60214832

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I do a lot of gaming, encoding, and VM stuff. The R7 series of Ryzen chips was a no brainer. I sold my 6700k/z179 ROG board so I could get the x370 rog and r7-1700X. I paid less than $40 out of pocket.

The only reason to get the 7700k over a 1500X/1600/1600X is if you're playing on a 144hz panel. With Ryzen giving 60fps in all major titles and any resolution beyond 1080p being more GPU bound than anything, Ryzen is fine. Honestly it was worth it for me and the fact that I'm getting fluxless solder under my CPU lid rather than some bullshit thermal paste is great for longevity. It shouldn't be common place for people to be recommending de-lidding your CPU to get the most out of it.

Then there is the accompanied heat as well. My 6700k was hitting 86C during encodes at bone stock speeds. Meanwhile using the same cooler and fan inside the same case, my 1700X only hits 63C while encoding, overclocked to 3.6ghz on all 16 threads. Feels good to be free of Intel. Sucks I still have to use their LAN chipset and laptop chips. The second a high end AMD based laptops hits with good build quality, I'm on it like white on rice.

TL;DR
AMD is doing God's work here and we should all be thankful to Jim "certified shit wrecker" Keller for his work. More cores is officially something that the common man can have cheaply, and you'll never out run this truth intel, no matter how fast your cores or how wide your pipelines.

Oh good, it's another completely offtopic /biz/ thread transitioned into IMG_xxxx.jpg benchmark spammer shitting it up even more. And the mods are too busy fapping to Maki nudes to do anything about it. This is pretty much rock bottom for this shithole of a board, isn't it? How can it get any worse?

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>>60214841

>>60214875
You mean Lain nudes?

>>60214866
>86Cvs63C

Jewtel confirmed housefire

>>60214887
This comparison is stupid because no one who spends money for a 1800x/6900k would get a low/mid tier gpu like RX480

>>60214927

Yeah, I would obviously pick VEGA

>>60214866
>I sold my 6700k/z179 ROG board so I could get the x370 rog and r7-1700X.

Just lmao at AMD fags downgrading

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc2L3L4E73g&feature=youtu.be&t=792
>Why no witcher 3 benchmarks?
>oh, thats why

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>>60214927
You don't want them compared at the kinds of tasks a 6900k is actually bought for, trust me.

>>60214963

>paying extra money for less performance

just Intelshills

>>60214971
Jokes on you this only makes the 1800x look better than the 6900k

>>60214963
>I do a lot of gaming, encoding, and VM work
>encoding and VM work
>1700X being a downgrade from a measly 8 thread i7

Yeah nah. You're a cunt. Enjoy your 8 thread house fire. Make sure you don't angle the razor blade during the delid otherwise you'll be buying another i7 for full price.

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>>60214992
Lol I was arguing against the Shekelchaser

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>>60214968
>outdated i5 beating a brand new 16 thread CPU

DELET

AMD will be $20 by the end of the year

go ahead, laugh at me.

don't come crying then that you didn't buy the dip like you cried when amd went from $1.6 to $10

>>60214818
Hardware encode quality is shit. Can be decent with higher bitrate for youtube vod. For streaming always use x264 software encoding since max bandwith is not that high.

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>>60215066

>>60211594
Apparently /g/ now uses a company's stock value as a benchmark for individual products.

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Oyy veyy! I smell a shekel!

Nvidias stock is $100

AMDs is barely $10

amd is a joke

>>60215160
Intel's stock at ~$36, NVIDIA's at $100. Intel's a joke.

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Reminder that while AMD is only competitive in gaming benchmarks, the Ryzen series BTFO the delid lakes in the overwhelming majority of non-hacking use cases.

>>60215193
*Non-gaming

>>60215125
Epic fake bro

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>>60215262
Not as fake as using Nvidia GPUs to deliberately bias results.

>>60214994
If you were actually happy with your purchase you wouldn't be this emotional

You fucked up bad and you know it

>>60214789
Nobody said 7700k is best for encoding pajeet. Learn English. Anyway I'll hardware encode and take the loss in quality if needed. Most people rarely stream demanding games and we've had great quality streaming for years already.

>>60211594
What app is that?

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>>60215622
>Encoding
Or productivity tasks.

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>>60215622
>>60215703
>Encoding
Or simulations

>>60211594

Ryzen is pretty good why is the price going down?

Intel is telling 7700k owners to stop overclocking so their shit doesnt burn,

>>60215160
It's pretty hilarious desu

Also look at the Steam stats, not a single AMD card in the top 17

I can't imagine the shame AMD fags must have for their horrible choices in life

>>60214733

>Israeli company getting broken up for monopoly.

That wont happen.

>>60211594
>intel can't win the fight
>crash the market

>>60215869
Lmao, Intel doesn't need to do shit, they didn't even lower their prices a cent

>>60215826
>>60215826
>Also look at the Steam stats, not a single AMD card in the top 17
Wow, you weren't kidding. I just looked it up.

But the rest of your post is shit

>>60211594
to all the faggots here who are happy with this news I hope that you will enjoy the $1000 single core i3 chips.

>>60212380
no, gaming is a very small niche for the CPU market compared to businesses.

>>60215880
Intel never lower their prices even when they're getting demolished.

>>60215193
So, let me get this straight - 300$ 7700k losing 12% of performance to $500 1800x in your picture is BTFO, but 1800x losing 11% to 7700k in games is not BTFO and "quite competitive"?
Is this that famous amd hypocrisy?

>>60215300
But AMD doesn't have competitor to 1070 or above. And 17 first places in steam survey are hold by Nvidia GPUs. So, why should I give a fuck? It's amd's fault that their shit is not working with by far the most popular gpus, not the other way around

>>60211594
It's crazy how many people love Monopolies in the US.

Fucking weird.

>>60216142
>But AMD doesn't have competitor to 1070 or above. And 17 first places in steam survey are hold by Nvidia GPUs. So, why should I give a fuck? It's amd's fault that their shit is not working with by far the most popular gpus, not the other way around
Yes because AMD are the ones writing novideo drivers.

>>60216189
They are getting assfucked by ISPs on daily basis. And they got used to this.

>>60216198
No, because from my point of view, as a consumer, I don't give a fuck about their corporate issues or whatever. Nvidia holds 3x times the gpu market of AMD and 17 first positions in steam survey are Nvidia GPUs.
So, if amd wants me to buy their cpus, they should fucking come to agreement with nvidia or something and optimize their cpus to work with nvidia drivers, and not behave like "ITS ALL MUH EBIL NVIDIA'S FAULT".
You have to work with what the market is, unless you can change the market, which amd can't now, unless vega is something extraordinary.

>>60214866
jim keller wasn't responsible for ryzen

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>>60211594
When will AMD queers learn?

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>>60216111

>>60215818
They were slightly under their expected earnings.

AMD made HUGE gains over the past 1-2 years and instead of those gains continuing, the results showed AMD was just chugging along fine instead.

I don't expect the price to stay this low for very long.

>>60216281
>i don't give a fuck
So you're a tech illiterate /v/edditor. Neck yourself.

AMD can't go out of business Intel needs their dancing corpse because of anti competition laws.

If Vega is another fury x abortion which is looking very unlikely this is just a slump.

What amd needs is to get these CPUs in laptops.

And don't forget the server CPUs are not out yet which is when the real shit will hit the fan

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>>60216111
>>60216330

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>>60216111
>>60216358

>>60215748
Oh yes, all those simulations I constantly do. Damn. I really feel bad now with the worlds fastest normal usage performance.

>>60216326
Fucking saved

>>60216404
See:
>>60211925
>>60214531
>>60214541
>>60214755
>>60214971
>>60215193
>>60215024

For some other usage scenarios.

>>60212531
fuck off retard

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I wonder why you faggots don't get tired of this shit.
Buying a quad core right now is retarded when the 1600 exists. It comes with a cooler and can be OC to the point where the loss in games is negligible and the gain it gets from everything else is gigantic. You can parrot the 7700k all you want, that's even more retarded since you can save $100 with the 1600 and buy a better GPU unless you play CSGO at 240Hz or some other absurd case.

>>60216595
Its paid shilling, every intelshills will repost everything bad about AMD.
We just got news about how Intel is telling all the K user to stop OC-ing their CPU but none bother to spams those news in here.

Just from that, Its easy to spot which one is shilled the most in this board.

>>60216349
I am a consumer and I don't give a fuck about their problems. If amd can't make their shit competitive - their fault. If nvidia is deliberately slowing them - sue them. When I pay $400 I need performance, not excuses.
If your tech knowledge makes you a good cuck, ready to pay for something and then whine about muh boogeyman nvidia with inferior performance, then yes, let me be tech illiterate. At least I am not a retard to pay for inferior product, knowing that it doesn't perform and then look for excuses.

>>60211594
>implying stock prices matter

AMD's stock got shorted by Goldman Sachs, it's stock trading 101.

>>60216326
Kek'ed

>>60216673
It's fucking /g/, people here were screaming 'finished and bankrupt' when AMD was at $2 instead of buying the fucking stock.

>>60216659
>At least I am not a retard to pay for inferior product, knowing that it doesn't perform and then look for excuses.
That sounds familiar.
https://www.polygon.com/2016/7/28/12315238/nvidia-gtx-970-lawsuit-settlement

>>60216694
Oh wow, weren't we speaking about cpus, mate? Or are you so desperate you have to jump from topic to topic?
If nvidia sells shit - don't buy it. But most people do. So amd must make sure that their cpus work with what majority have. If they can't - they should introduce their own capable gpus.
So far amd did neither. It is just amd shills whining and blaming everyone for poor ryzen performance

>>60216673
It's actually the complete opposite.

AMD's stock was propped up by thousands of literally paid online shills for the past year.

Things are now coming back to earth as people realize it was all a pack of lies.

>>60216764
>Oh wow, weren't we speaking about cpus, mate?

I'm not that guy, I just respond with that because someone said this >>60216281
>and not behave like "ITS ALL MUH EBIL NVIDIA'S FAULT".
sorry if my post hurt your feeling as a consumer.

>>60216656
t. paid AMD shill

>>60216801
But AMD got no money.
Get your fact straight plz.

>>60216467
AMD fags always have the most stellar arguments

>>60212531
enjoy your stuttering m8

>>60216819
AMD has lots of money...in their stock

Their company on the other hand is doing horrible, losing millions every quarter for a decade.

>>60216854
>Their company on the other hand is doing horrible, losing millions every quarter for a decade.
So AMD got no money then?
thank you for agreeing with me (fiuh, almost got caughtthere)

>>60216881
Poo

>>60216973
(oh no, I've been found out!)
*Cries in the corner*

>>60216289
fake news

>>60211594
Buy the fucking dip, that's gonna recover.

Notice that intelkikes have been reduced to talking about AMD's stock price, a /biz/ topic, on /g/ because they can no longer rely on biased day -1 benchmarks to try and paint Ryzen in a bad light.

Shekelchasers resorting to shitposting about share prices is, in and of itself, a tacit admission that Intel has been reduced to a single sku.

>>60217114
Would that be the fabled poorfag pentium?

I was I wasn't poor, then I would definitely buy. Things are only going to get better for AMD, this is maybe your last chance for good gains.

>>60217181
Pretty much. The 7700k was a second sku until Intel had to come out and start begging it's cuckolds to stop overclocking them. There is no point in a 7700k at stock clocks.

>>60217114
Good thing they did cause this is a buying opportunity

>>60217217
kek, what am I even looking at? Look at the 1600/1700.

>>60211594
Stocks don't neccessarily say something about how good a company is doing you know.

>>60217283
He's talking about corelet.
The reason why the internet reviewers right now got boner all over the R5 lineup.

>>60217293
Yes they do

>>60217303
Ah, now I see. Those 4cores/noMT are struggling even more than expected. My 2500k is fine since I don't really play many modern games, but even then I'd love to get a 1700. The PS3 emulator is giving me hope.

>>60217306
They really don't. It's based on what investors might think. If a group of canadian lumberjacks is doing their job well and some mudslime blows itself up in some random city in canada then investors are more lickely to sell their stock out of fear while in reality this would barely affect the lumberjacking company. It CAN be based on how well the company is doing but it's more affected by a lot of other stuff.

Didn't Intel announce a new line-up of processors or something? Perfect example.

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>>60214602
>Buying an 1800X for gaymen

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>>60214778
>>60214740
Those Intel minimums

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>>60216142
>It's amd's fault that their shit is not working with by far the most popular gpus

You mean it's AMD writing the Nvidia drivers? Or do you think a CPUs architecture should be built around bugs in certain applications?
/g/ is getting more retarded by the day.

>>60216281
>optimize their cpus to work with nvidia drivers

Optimize a CPU based on 3rd party drivers...

This made my day, thanks anon.

I've been out of the loop

What the fuck is happening with AMD?

>>60211716
jews

>>60219809
Jews.

>>60214588
Oy vey DELID THIS

>>60219809
AMD doesn't have any OEMs. Most PC sales these days are either shitty consumer laptops or Optiplexes. Laptops are still using whatever flavor of the month ULV Intel Core chip, and the business PCs are all i5. Combine this with the fact that current gen PC sales are slowing down since everyone who was going to buy a PS4 or XBone already has one. People are getting sick of waiting for Vega so they don't even have that.

>>60212265
You really, really don't want Intel to get AMD's patents.

>>60211925
Unfortunately, really depends on your application.

For the dedicated streaming PC I'm making only two things matter, outside of having enough video capture devices:

1) Clockspeed. Moar GHz is better.

2) IPC. Moar instructions per cycle is better.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1586

x264 encoding on a livestream through OBS doesn't care about 2nd-pass speed (which is highly parellelized), livestream does only a single pass, and the faster the CPU can do it, the higher quality preset you can use while still maintaining stable framerate on the upload.

Ryzen would mop the floor with the 7700k though when using handbrake to re-encode that raw feed footage for archival though.

>>60212380
>>60216010
And yet gaming is the only benchmark that all the reviewers, bloggers, and forum posters care about. If it's not #1 at gaming then it's complete trash to them (which hurts reputation and mind-share).

>>60212416
Pretty much this. Thanks anon.

AMD's products are going to be way better across the board y/y, so it makes sense to buy the dips.
AMD already passed rock bottom 6 months ago. AMD, and the people, did over hype Ryzen, but they were able to deliver on much of what they promised two years ago.

Win10 has been out for some time and is 'stable' (lol) so many businesses will be looking to buy new PC's soon.

Though I'd concede and say they need to pick up the pace on their releases.

AMD has always been shit. It's always had performance issues and it will die for the good of the industry

>>60215183
kek

I'm just mildly pissed that gaming has a disproportionate weight on judging a CPU nowadays and that there are so many people who are shallow technology enthusiasts on the internet and this board that do the same.

Actual productivity uses and needs like what >>60214866 has are flat out sneered at or ignored.

And it's this shallow understanding that led to the stock selloff.

>>60212380
Not much really, businesses the care more about cost/productivity/support.

Currently there is no low end market from ryzen to cover the APU segment, intel fits there perfectly for price/performance since majority businesses don't run "games".

What AMD doing now is aiming for the render/production on the media/server side where 500 units for cheap render farm instead of 1000 units of low end client machines. The game promoting for ryzen is the flare and all for the recent surge of streamers and tube gamers etc.

But again, most businesses been using intel based system and the salesman from OEM will continue the pattern until serious shit hits the fan like intel chip failing after x month due to faulty igpu/cache/batch design flaw.

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>>60211594
Are Ryzen CPUs actually good or is this just a shitty meme?

Cannonlake looks DOA desu. And my i5 3570 is ancient.

>>60211925
Delete this goyim

it went way up from the hype and then people started selling who didn't want to watch or keep up with what was going on anymore.. which is normal especially for tech

all the people who DO keep up with tech are staying though

keep in mind probably like 90% of people who bought were just anyone who was hearing word of mouth from friends/family saying to buy (Like I told ~20 family members) and then they all sold but my mom, brother and I are staying

>>60223227

They are damn good.

10% less single core performance, 10% faster multithreaded performance.

Move down to the 1600 and you get 6 cores 12 threads versus 4 cores and 4 threads. More cores is no longer a meme. And single core performance is losing relevance in modern software.

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>>60223356
I might get the 1700.
Assuming that's the one that holds a candle up to the 7700.

Though the question is, will it fuck with my Nvidia GPU? I've heard AMD CPUs have minor issues with Nvidia stuff.

>>60214588
The chutzpah goyim

>>60211594
Ryzen memes aside, is there anything else causing their stocks to go down, like that Vega leak?

>>60212531
>PCGamer
>Cost per FPS
This is one of those trolling things, right?

>>60223831

A bunch of old guys who don't understand CPUs, or the tech market, who bought in expecting an AMD crushing defeat of Intel and Nvidia. Who think AMD "just" being competitive doesn't justify their stock price and expect another Bulldozer in sales relying on slim margin consoles to keep afloat. Despite AMD showing slow, but steady growth in every sector of their product portfolio.

They only think of electronics in terms of retail sales like Apple. So a couple banks have issued a sale recommendation. Not really understanding what AMD does, or why they are significant in the market place. But then, that's not what they are investing for.

Goldman-Sachs has bought a lot of stock and they want to temper the crazy stock price increase before they crash so they issued a valuation on where they think the stock should be at 11 dollars.

Now Q2 will show one of two things, continued growth on target giving it a slight increase and push it up 12 dollars + or AMD cleaning house in the data centers and HPC server clusters. If AMD gets a fair shake at selling Naples and Snowy Owl they can beat projected earnings and be valued at 20 dollars.

So you have three schools of thought on AMD. Bulls hedging on increased growth. Bears hedging on slow and steady or staying at it's current price. And sharks just trying to chum the water and get out while they are still intact.

>>60211594
Look at AMD's stock price at the start of 2016, then tell me you still think Ryzen wasn't good for AMD.

The only reason it went down to $10 is because some people were expecting Ryzen to beat Intel in every way.
But instead, Ryzen only beats Intel in *most* ways.

>>60222309
Have you ever worked in a company where they require servers or any form of computing?

>>60214346
Top end Vega:
12.5 TFLOPS FP32
25 TFLOPS FP16

1080 Ti:
~11 TFLOPS FP32 *and* FP16


So, depending on how much FP16 is used, top end Vega might end up being about on par or slightly faster than a 1080 Ti, *OR*, much much faster.

>>60227267
TFLOPs take nothing but ALU math into account, they have nothing to do with the frontend or backend.

>>60211925
>Implying the R3 won't absolutely destroy the G4560 when it releases too

And yet every prominent 'tech' tuber will still shill Intel because it's all their console-bab convert assess has ever known.

The problem AMD faces is that Intel has the lion's share of the desktop CPU market. People with an i5 2500K and above don't really have a reason to upgrade. Their market of people who want to update isn't that big. You could argue the same goes for Kaby Lake and other Intel processors but Intel has deals and shit that keeps money flowing, AMD is under more pressure to get better results.

>>60227798
Well, except for the architectural advantages of Zen meaning AMD is going to be able to offer laptop processors in a totally different performance per watt league than Intel.

Not to mention the absolute BTFO'ing of Intel's server offerings that Naples is shaping up to be.

>>60216785
> OMG, it turns out Ryzen only wins most of the time, and not all of the time. What a complete failure.

>>60216854
So, how does it feel that your favourite company got bested by a much smaller company with no money?

>>60227304
No, TFLOPS is not ALU. It's FPU.
The hint is in the name: FLOPS. That's Floating point Operations Per Second. ALU's only do integer ops.

>>60228177
They have a 65W TDP 8 core Ryzen chip right now.
If they do some binning, drop the clocks and voltage a bit, I guess they could make 8 cores at ~50W. That's around what top end quad core i7 mobile chips use.

>>60211594
/biz/ here.

AMD hit a low today of $10.01/share.. and has since then rocketed too $10.15+

Correction is over, now the climb begins anew.

>>60211594
Ryzen was a boost, people expected vega would be equally as good. But it turns out vega is a dud, and sales of ryzen are already heading the way of the bulldozer.

>>60229078
You don't know shit about Vega. Nobody does, except AMD.
As the saying goes, bait for mench warks on launch.

>>60211594
> Guys looks at these numbers !!!
And what?
How does these numbers affect a cpu performance, gaming experiance and so on?

>>60229149

It doesn't, they're just fishing for some Intel superiority sensations.

Realistically Intel would never let AMD fail because then they could be nailed for monopolizing the CPU market.

>>60228748
Fuck you, I wanted it to drop to $9 so I can buy some 200 shares