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Is using an exploit in a video game to crash servers illegal?

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Is it illegal to crash a video game's server using nothing but in-game mechanics?

I found an exploit in a Steam survival game that can crash the server for about 5-10 minutes, booting everyone off the server. It uses nothing but in-game mechanics to do.

Is it considered a DoS attack? Or, since I'm just "playing the game" would it hold up in court?
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I'm pretty sure you would win at the court, can't say whether they can sue you though.

Also what game?
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Not illegal at all. It's a video game. You're just playing the game by flooding whatever in-game shit there is and the shit coding can't handle it.

I bet reddit-tards would say "18 U.S.C. ยง1030" but whatever.

>>60205891 Probably Conan Exiles
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>>60205861
what game is it and how do yo do it? i want to have some fun
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>>60205939
>>60205907
Yeh, Conan Exiles.

The exploit is worth $500 if you pony up to the devs how to do it but can't they just turn around and sue me for crashing servers?
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>>60205861
Use it to dupe items. Usually you can do this by exploiting the games read/write calls.
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>>60205861
I wouldn't do it. Even if you eventually win the case, which you probably won't, it'll cost you a lot of money to fight it.
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>>60206023
Please dont ask my why I think you wont win the case of "Yea I DoSed the servers, but I only used in-game mechanics so it's okay."
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>>60206042
Why the fuck isn't it? People could just code shitty games and then claim the players are crashing the servers.
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No game company is going to court over some 12 year old kid crashing servers (with an ingame bug) for kicks.
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>>60206054
In once case the crashes are happening because of your direct actions to crash servers, in the other they are happening without players' intent. If you are intentionally causing losses to the corporation they will sue you and they will win.
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>>60205861
the game is shit, so are the devs.

dont tell them how its done just ruin them financially by taking down servers with alot of people
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>>60206083
It's a literal DoS attack, disrupting their service and losing them money. They will go to court. That's what they are paying their lawyers for.
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>>60206097
If I buy the game on a new Steam with a VPN running I should never get caught, right?
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>>60206000
No, bug bounty hunting programs are a thing for a reason
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reasonable doubt anon

because you arent using ddos tools for the specific purpose of ddos they will never have proof your intent is to ddos

ignore everyone else
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>>60206116
see

>>60206120

at worst theyll ban your account.

if theyre dumb enough to take you to court make sure you milk them for your time and effort, also ptsd or something
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>>60206000
I'm not paying you $500 you fucking Jew
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>>60206119
Yeah but I already crashed some community run servers for like 5 hours.
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>>60206120
Yeah but I taunted some third worlder server admin over Discord about it and I'm 100% sure he recorded it.
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"your honour through the exploiting of our bad code mr anon was able to make the game unplayable for several of our users and in return cost us 0$. all twelve people on the server are deeply distraught"

how old are you OP?
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>sueing a customer for using a feature literally built into the game
yeah, nah unless theyre absolutely united airlines tier retarded
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>>60206175
that would help build a case against you, but lets be honest aint nobody got time fo dat


call me when youre taking down several servers simultaneously, then you may have a problem.
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>>60206187
I blew up the most populated server for 5 hours or so. 50+ players. Community run. Some beta cucks are prob renting the server and trying to live off player donations. In their Discord they claimed to have their host "ready when the attack hits again" so I did my game exploit again, and now they've went silent about it in the chat.
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>>60206209
>call me when youre taking down several servers simultaneously, then you may have a problem.

It takes 1-2 minutes of play time from a level 1 fresh start to bring down, and after it comes back up literal seconds to do so again.

I do use an auto-clicker to do it faster, but it can be done manually.

The reddit-cucks seem to think its super illegal. Or are they just that retarded?

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6949vg/tx_is_using_an_ingame_exploit_to_crash_a_server/
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>>60206213
you should tell them youre an experienced network admin and help them look into it.

these fucks spend all day on conan swinging their e dicks around, i promise you the extent of their technical literacy is using the admin console and opening support tickets with the title in ALL CAPS TO DENOTE URGENCY.
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>>60206246
It will be illegal when there are actual documented losses numbering in tens of thousands american doras. Before that, no, it isn't possible to sue over that.
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>>60206213
Youre giving them consistent crash logs which they'll eventually use to fix the bug.
Either snatch the bug bounty or continue using the bug until its patched. Legal action will not occur because literally who the fuck cares if 10 year old vladimir mcslav holds a server hostage for a few hours.
Youre doing them a favor by finding game breaking bugs and bringing them to attention (either through willing means or malicious)
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>>60206054
intent matters and you are basically confessing intent here, right now
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So if I want to take the villain route, and literally kill off a game with only 3k concurrent players remaining, how do I go about doing this?

Not exactly computer smart, just really fucking talented at video games. (Ex e-sport fag, etc.)

Can I just make a new Steam account under a foreign VPN and just never be found or do I have to do a bunch of proxy and Tor magicks?

>>60206289
I'm in my 40's, wish I was a kid. The server logs only show that 100,000 items are being created but with no info on who or what is created.
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>>60206246
>several servers simultaneously

meaning more than 1 at a time.

you aren't costing them a cent anon, they cant refund the game, they can just get mad and ban you if they find out. this is what lulz are made of.

jump from server to server and record your travels to youtube for max gains.

afaik the game already has a bad name so you wont be doing anything to their reputation.
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>>60206308
That is going to cause actual financial damage, and game's publisher will do their best to find you. You already made it public that you know the exploit, you already made enemies who will help hunt you down; no VPN will save you in this particular case if you take the villain route.
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>>60205861
You're deliberately exploiting bugs in order to cause financial damage to someone. So yeah, that's illegal.

Short of you admitting guilt, they'd have hell of a time proving you did anything wrong, though.
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>>60206308
game is already ded dude, take the villain route.

crash server full of chinese players constantly

no survivors.
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>>60206308
That should be an easy fix then. Literally just find the sections of code dealing with item instancing and limit flooding, while flagging players attempting to do so.

>>60206345
Ignore this retard. Crash the servers like a hooligan and demand pizza delivered to your friends houses or something.
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>>60205861
>Steam survival game
ARK Survival Evolved?
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>>60206379
>Ignore this retard. Crash the servers like a hooligan and demand pizza delivered to your friends houses or something.
Well, I will admit that I see the likelihood of him suffering for breaking servers very low. But it's not zero; I personally am a coward and I wouldn't do that if I lived in USA.
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>court
>crashing a game sever
What authoritarian shithole do you hail from?
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>>60206399
Murica.
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>>60206418
You're fucked then.
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>>60205861
I used to do this on Dota 2 all the time, crashing the game for all the players and making the game not count when losing on ranked

However there's a difference between fucking up 10 autists versus a whole server effectively disrupting the product and business of a company, sounds liable enough to me
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>>60206714
These are community run servers. Autists that rent their own servers to do stupid events and shit.
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>>60205861
You'd at most get banned.
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>>60206754
You're safe then
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>>60206819
How am I safe?
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>>60206828
Some random fat fuck won't engage in an international lawsuit because some other guy crashed their shitty circlejerk
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>>60206828
I'm pretty sure people post CP in Minecraft community servers and don't even get banned, crashing a server is small talk in terms of fucking with people, if you end up in court it'll be laughed out and the company knows it.
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>>60206158
Just say you had to confirm the exploit on different machines
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You are cyber criminal. Burgerland has insane minimum sentences for this type of stuff. Not worth it.
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>>60207637
Doing this with a public account, stating, "hey guys, I think I found the reason for some server crashes recently, is it okay if I can test it on your server to see if I can confirm it?"

Boom, home free of any ill intent held by any admins.
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