Top kek

> 8 years of Android development experience

Are they looking for the founders of Android or just trying to steal Google employees with those live-in-your-car wages?

The requirements are reasonable, except for the 8+ year experience in building iOS and Android apps. They need a reminder for how long those have been around. And "working fluently" with SOAP. You can't work fluently with SOAP.

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>8+ years Android experience

>>60205593
>30 years experience with Windows 98

I've been making android apps for eight years seems like quite a sad thing to say.

>>60205753
How much bank you make? Or are you one of those cucks that makes apps for other people?

>>60205704
>covertly asking for a fullstack dev for 60k
>reasonable
Are you retarded? The minimum should be 90-110k

>>60205772
> Or are you one of those cucks that makes apps for other people?

That's not very nice anon.

>>60205753
Did you have that original developer phone that Google had with the screen that flipped up to reveal a hardware keyboard, but the side stayed where it was?

>>60205791
We don't know where they're located.

>>60205812

Bad anon. 60k is slave driver tier and a slap in the face.

>>60205593
You don't get it. With these retarded requirements they can reject everyone and legally import Pajeets instead.

>>60205812
If you're in the US and you accept that job for 60k you're the pajeet ruining the industry

>>60205791
They're actually asking for a fullstack dev, who will also be working on what appears to be some seriously legacy shit, as well as some newer shit they will have no control over, who also happens to be one of the most experienced mobile developers in the world. Also, the "fast-paced environment; very team oriented" means, "you'll have no team members who know what it is you do, everybody else will be 'more senior' than you and will be your boss".

This is a shit job and I don't know anybody who fits the qualifications who would be willing to take it.

>>60205864
I wouldn't accept it myself, but I know for fact that many Midwestern devs would.

>>60205893

That's what's ruining the industry.

Cucks going around and accepting low tier pay.

I heard companies do these so they can have a reason to import pajeets on H1-B visas.
They just go like "see, it's been three months and we have zero applications can we bring rajeesh over now?"

>>60205593

name and shame that fucking company for exploiting H1B1 Visa immigrant program

they quote a very low price because it is unsustainable for an american but pajeets will swarm to that job in no time because 60k is a lot of money for them

>>60205915

Wouldn't doubt it really.

>>60205893
>becoming the pajeet
>we sure showed those pajeets by retaking our jobs!

I hope you're not friends with those people

>>60205915
>I heard companies do these so they can have a reason to import pajeets on H1-B visas.
Pretty much, $60k is the minimum H1B wage.

>>60205863
This. For a company to do H1B Indian slave importing, you have to "prove" that you cannot find domestic workers.
Basically the companies will post ridiculous insane job postings and reject anyone, then they can say "we made X numbers of postings but cannot find anyone, therefore we need indian workers".

>>60205943
It's named in the description you goonie

"Crossover" A quick google will show their postings.

> Programming in iOS since the 3G (Not the 3GS, the 3G)
> Android since 1.5 "Cupcake"
:thinking:

>>60205999

> coding this long
> don't already have 100k+ job
> not already retired

Idiots.

>>60205893
Well i mean it is p. easy to live comfy in the midwest under that pay but... no... 60k+ for that shit... nah
Also sounds like buzzword driven development so double nah

>>60205943
the picture says Crossover you illiterate mongoloid....

>>60205982
>"Crossover" A quick google will show their postings.
Looks like they already have 7 H1Bs and are now going for #8
http://www.myvisajobs.com/Visa-Sponsor/Crossover-Systems/135346_Visa.htm

>>60206024

That's fucking disgusting.

>>60206024
There really ought to be some sort of punishment system for companies exploiting the visa system like that. That listing is so painfully obvious, it's practically like the Car Wash in Breaking Bad where the wife rings out a bunch of bogus transactions but the place is empty all day.

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They have some pretty shit paying jobs

>>60206024
>7
Look up Verizon my man

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>>60206065
I used to work at a IT startup which was bankrolled by In-Q-Tel. I've seen emails from the VP of HR explicitly instructing the drones to find ways to discriminate against American candidates for software development roles so they can get H1Bs. How does it feel to know that your tax dollars are supporting this?

>>60205593
If you are a respected programmer who can get most programming jobs easily you should schedule and interview with them just to tell them to go fuck themselves.

>>60206194
>If you are a respected programmer who can get most programming jobs easily you should schedule and interview with them just to tell them to go fuck themselves.
Or just bother to send a fake resume.

>>60205915
But how do they even find a pajeet with all those qualifications?

>>60206227
The pajeet lies on his resume. If an American does the same, they bother to actually check employment history to verify his claims.

>>60206066
> 20k
I would rather kill myself

>>60206266
No no. That's not how it works. There are basically huge pajeet farms that help pajeets from India get into roles by creating bogus resumes, recreating fake people for references, and sometimes even taking phone interviews or video chat interviews for the them. They get a cut from the salary of every pajeet they get into the system.

Where do you think this whole consultant meme started from in the first place? Pajeet farms. Often they're run by more enterprising pajeets who usually have some permanent residency in the US.

iOS developer here, this is a fucking scam
> ARC is not complex at all, it's basic shit you learn on the first hello world book
> It's Xcode, not xCode
> 8+ years on high traffic/enterprise apps would make you rich already, why even bother to get a 60k shitty job?
> Who wouldn't have "good understanding" on OO after developing for ios and android for 8+ years?

>>60206331
holy fuck, I fucking hate this new enterprise era.

>>60206417
Time to ban H1Bs and form unions to get that sweet lobbying power.

>>60205871
this nigga knows what's up

I heard trump made some reporting systems for h1b abuse, not sure though. Hopefully he abolishes it entirely and sends all the fuckers back.

>>60205593
I have all of those minus the 8 years exp n if I did i sure as hell wouldnt be applying for tht shtth job

Hmm, 60k just happens to also be the H1B salary cutoff.

>government, government, we couldn't find a full stack dev w/8 years experience for 60k!
>aww don't worry wittle babby, we'll get you those H1Bs you need

HR was a mistake

>>60206629
>send them all back
>the industry actually collapses because these stupid fucks spent all their time and money basically mentoring and training pajeets from scratch because you know pajeets can't code for shit so their leads had to babysit them until they could
>Pajeets flood india with their new skills and prop up their economy and all the memes about india being a superpower by 2030 actually come true
>they launch a rocket into space
>meanwhile America has millions of uninitiated new programmers with little to no experience and the young ones who do have experience have some form of autism induced or encouraged by FOSS

America's going to go down the toilet pretty quick. These companies sold out America's young for a quick buck. There's no way they can believe that an Indian, however educated he is in his homeland, could possibly have actual experience when American kids of a similar age and career status don't. If you're a jr to mid level guy now's a good time to start learning something else. I'm thinking about taking up woodworking and carpentry since I have some money saved for tools. Maybe I'll sell repainted and polished driftwood antiques to middle-class liberals who think they're rich when all they're doing is flushing their retirement down the drain.

>>60206746
>industry collapses
>implying this is a bad thing

>>60205593
Just the result of the diversity agenda in technology aimed at crashing wages

>>60206806
I'm just saying, be ready for it. Probably a good idea to have a backup plan.

>>60206906
Personally I'm doing pure math and computer science together, to separate myself from the code monkeys and poos, math is more fun anyway

>>60206874
what should we do anon?

>>60205863l
This retards the 8 years is a big red flag. They want a pajeet to work for half of the cost (or less if they can get away with it).

The H1B program is fucking cancer.

>>60205716
2009 was 8 years ago, Android Development was already in full swing at the time

>>60209895
Why the fuck does any Dev need 8 years of android experience for a job?

>>60205593
> Ability to handle multiple projects at once while meeting aggresive production deadlines,

We're gonna grind you harder than investment banking, cuck and only pay you 60k.

>>60210062
making exploits

>>60209872
H1b for programmers is over, not allowed under new trump rules

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2013 was 18 years ago...

>>60205812
This salary isn't even acceptable in Mexico, it might be acceptable for a pajeet in India who wouldn't actually be able to do anything listed there

>>60205915
>>60205943
>>60205971
>>60206024
>>60206030
>>60206065
>>60206157
>>60206417
>>60206541
>>60206687

>b..b.. but if we're nice to company, they'll act nice en employ more americans

ITT ; ppl realizing the problem with immigration is actually capitalism.

>>60206746
But the pajeets have no skills....they lack the ability to solve problems on their own unless it has a cookie cutter solution

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Apple brings in from 1500-2000 immigrants each year.
Microsoft is about 4-5000 each year
Google is another ~4000 a year.
Facebook is about 1200.
Literally bringing in 12,000 pajeets a year between them. We are being INVADED.
Imagine if those jobs went to actual americans?
There is no way we have a shortage of people who can do these jobs. It's all an attempt to bring down the pay of developers. Same reason they push for women and minorities. The more workers they import to convince into the field the lower the salaries go.
Maybe I should change major to a more pure science or math

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These fucking yanks

>60k is not enough
>That's 5k a month
>Not enough

Genuinely what do you even spend your money on?

I'm not even memeing

>>60210835
repaying debt

>>60210835
If it's silicon valley...

Rent, gas

and you probably can't afford anything else

>>60210549
You definitely should. I wish I had have done this when I had the chance.

You can learn programming on the side for the very reason you are talking about. There are thousands of resources to learn how to code now because companies want more people to lower wages.

If you do pure science or maths, you have skills in other areas and you can use programming as a tool. If you can not only do the theory but also implement solutions, you become incredibly valuable.

Programming is simply the tool to implement other things. If you don't know how to do the other things, then you're fucked especially in the future. I would definitely, if you are still able to, major in maths or science and then minor in compsci or software dev.

>8+ years in something that's barely 9 years old

But not quite since
>8+ years in something that's a high level application of something 9 years old of which only started 5 years ago

>>60210835
pay student debts
thats the circle of american life

>>60210835
>what is tax
>what is insurance
>what is rent
>what are bills

Come on man. 60k after tax is less than 4k per month take home pay. Then you have 2k rent per month. You're already down to 2k per month for EVERYTHING else.

>>60210835
5k a month is a garage in silicon valley.

>>60205593
>Developers
>Experienced in use of soap
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>60210835
>>60k is not enough

Say an average apartment is $2000 per month, then account for federal and state taxes. Do the math.

>>60205906
No.

The industry is whats ruining the industry today.

We have frameworks for everything. There's no thought to be put in in half of this shit anymore. You can pump retards through boot camps and teach them to use Java libraries and how to Google shit, pay em 50k a year, and they'll be happy.

Hell, the majority of CS students graduating are fucking retarded.

>60k
They can suck my dick for 60k.

>>60206746
> and the young ones who do have experience have some form of autism induced or encouraged by FOSS
I don't see the problem there.

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>>60210897
>>60210997
>>60210998
>choosing to live in silicon valley when programming can be done from LITERALLY anywhere
keksicus maximus

next you're going to tell me that group projects require you to be in the same room when hd teleconferencing has been around for ages.

>>60205791
Depends where you live, in the UK that's pretty good but that's to do with cost of living which, aside from London, is significantly lower across the major tech areas

>>60211752
Remote working and teleconferencing is significantly less efficient in most cases.

>>60211815
Speak for yourself, faggot.
t. Rajesh working from home in a comfy southern town

>>60211840
Most remote workers lack the self discipline to do actual work from home and it makes collaboration difficult. On the other hand it's easy if you're a Java monkey or a pajeet that just gets sent features and made to implement them using a mixture of SO & an O'Reilly book. Not a good career move if you care about a fast rising career like I did.

>>60209895
Android 1.0 was released in September 2008

>>60205593
wew

>>60211987
I think the recruiter means Java anyway, that's the usual for android job specs as Java has existed a lot longer and so getting managers (the only people who should need 8 years, I was a lead after 4 years and delivery manager at 6) is a lot easier/possible if you say Java over Android.

>>60206924
>still in school
That's cute timmy, but run along now, grown men are talking here.

>>60205593
What's an enterprise level iOS app supposed to be?
Don't tell me people now install ERPs and similar on fucking iPads

>>60206369
Not to mention "OO programming"

@60210835
>t. baiting tripfag
60k is homeless-tier income if you live in san francisco or any other major US city, aka where these fucking jobs are

>>60206369
> ARC is not complex at all, it's basic shit you learn on the first hello world book

They are asking for non-ARC knowledge though you stupid fuck

>>60205593
they're either not gonna get any bites, or they're trying for H1B1, which for the record is a pretty dumb thing to try for because the chance of your company winning a visa thru the lotto is not very good.

>>60205812
here in Costa Rica not even most doctors make 60k a year.

Then again, most families here live with around 1k USD a month

>>60205864
if you are just starting out of college, and not in a major urban center (jobs exist outside of big cities like SF, Austin, NYC, etc, you know), 60K is actually pretty ok. FOR STARTING.

A dev w/ 8 years experience needs to be approaching double that at least.

>>60214116
VIVE CARTAGO

SAN JOSE MRD

>>60214116
I took a vacation to Costa Rica with my family and our tour guide was talking about that, he said the job market is absolute shit there because everyone goes to school for degrees but there are no jobs. He said there are tons of people with medical degrees and law degrees but they work fast food or something because the job market is literally just shit. Our guide actually had a doctorate degree in biology and he was reduced to being a tour guide because there are no jobs.

>>60214029
>non-ARC knowledge
what?

i dont get it, this seems like a 60k job a year to me....someone redpill me

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>>60206024
damn google

>>60214239
it depends on location, but this looks US based, and if you're making 60k over 8 years into your career in the US, you're getting fucked.

>>60214239

Here is the red pill: The dumb ass undergrads on /g/, (99.9% of of the board) have no idea what real life is like. They also un-ironically think they are educated.

>>60214274
>>60214239
yeah this, I'm almost getting that much for my internship this summer and I'm still in college, if you take 60k/yr with that much experience you are a fucking cuck.

>>60205915
It's equally likely that they're so arrogant that they think they can employ the very best in the field on a mediocre salary.

>>60214086
>the chance of your company winning a visa thru the lotto is not very good.
They hire an American as temp to hire on a different job posting with more reasonable requirements as they wait and if it goes through they just dont hire the American

>>60205593
>tfw 30 years of android programming experience
>tfw can fluently speak english, java and objective-C
>tfw certificate which proves that I can learn new technologies
>tfw researched mindset

>>60214184
what are you doing with your life anon? im currently in 3rd year of CS at the UNA

>>60214199
yup, I love my country but the job market (among a few other things) here is shit, next year i finally get my degree and im looking at getting a job that pays about 1.6k USD a month.

with a few years of experience i can look forward to earning about 4k USD a month, but thats with luck and hard work, otherwise im stuck at around 3k USD a month for life

>>60209872
any pajeet who met those requirements probably wouldn't want to work for that pittance either

but i guess those requirements go away once they've got the visa petitions filed?

Jesus Christ, I'm a Marketing Writer and I make 60k while doing fuck all.

Y'all got memed

>>60205792
Sure schlohmo

>>60214123
Dude I would spit on whoever offered me 60K starting out of college. My fucking deadbeat job that involves programming for poor kids started me with 88K a month out of college.

>>60210549
>there's no way we have a shortage of people competent in programming

yeah man, idk, like, why the fuck are they paying us 100k starting for a job that they have no shortage of?

>work remotely for silicon valley company
>live in a gulf coast beach town (Destin, FL)
>earn San Francisco wages
>no income tax
>cheap housing
>beautiful weather
>no liberals


leeeeet

>>60205593
>This is a 60K job- 111 posts and 8 image replies shown.
I worked in HR. That's an H-1B job posting.

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OP are you tryna trick me?

>>60205871
that's the point...

>Associate's Degree
>3 years experience
>Making 40k

Am I getting cucked?

>>60205593
>8+ years of android dev experience
What the fuck

>>60205830
I would slap a hobo for 60k a year in an air conditioned office right now

>>60211213
waaah if only everybody wrote everything from scratch like REAL programmers

autists of /g/ - "8+ years of Android experience" does not immediately disqualify you from the position. It means that their ideal candidate would have 8+ years of Android experience.
Good example - I know of a guy that just recently got hired as a C# developer, had never written a single line of C# before, and the add said they were looking for somebody with years of C# experience

>>60215216
> Marketing Writer
Are you literally a shill?

>>60215543
If you have 3 years of actual professional experience the degree's worth dogfood to you. You should be making 80-90k even as a mid-level java codemonkey.

>>60210484
It's a part of the problem

>>60210835
I'm hoping to retire in my early 40s

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>>60205593
>8+ years of iOS/Android experience
8 years ago I didn't even have a smartphone yet, what the fuck.

You can ask for whatever requirements you want, at the end of the day you're still forced to pick from whoever applies. Chances are there's not going to be any applications from anyone who meets all those criteria.

>>60211056
>>60210997
$2k rent? Wtf
If you're smart you can get like $500 rent, or live lavishly for $1000 rent where I am
Or hell live in your parents basement and accumulate some money for $0 rent

>>60218108
You can always just not pick anyone ever. I know someone working for a company that has been trying to fill a dev position for 2+ years because the hiring managers won't settle for someone that isn't ridiculously overqualified. According to him, they've been losing business because they don't have enough devs to do the work.

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>>60214491
>1.6k USD starting
>3k USD with experience
>mfw Costa Rica has better wages than Italy now

Halp

>>60215543
have you tried asking for a raise?

>>60218560
>tfw spaghettis and spics have to emigrate to latin america again
you should start robbing milani mansions with mohammed and ivan ;^)

>>60205727
Lost it

>>60218916
>spics

Aren't spics already in latin america

>>60216726
Kind of yeah. I do research on stuff, write informative/snappy marketing copy, and then design shit

>>60209895
yet android is still a resource hogging garbage masquerading as mobile operating system

>>60214239
On some level I agree. Most of what they ask for is the sort of thing you should be an expert on just by following industry trends casually. I'm a fucking high school dropout, and besides degree requirements I often meet all of these goals. And in the end, i'm often able to ask for much more compensation because of certain areas I excel in

>>60220519
>>60220519
BUT: I wouldn't accept the pay unless I was directly involved creatively in the product. If its not something I'm invested in emotionally and possibly financially, the chances are next to none I'd contribute anything of significance

>>60205593
Good. The koders should know xeir place.

>>60219540
Fucking garbage colector is garbage, ARC is superior.

Why only Apple has it?

>>60205683
Kek

>>60210835
5k a month is garbage for 8 years of experience in anything but burger flipping.

>>60205893
Midwestern dev here. Been with my company 2 years since graduating, started at 70k as a Java developer.

Not in a million fucking years would I accept only 60k for that job that is beyond even pajeet tier.

>>60205593
If you keep all the requirements the same, except change 8+ to 4+ years, you can easily get 90-120K in a low-mid CoL area.

>>60210835
60K in a high CoL location like Bay Area or NYC basically means that you either sleep in a parking lot or your commute is 90+ minutes.

>>60221917
It'll be more like 3K after taxes get done with you.

>>60209895
And 90% of the shit from 2009 is already deprecated.

>>60214123
I got a meme "DevOps Engineer" job in the Midwest that started at $65k a year.

In comparison to most of my friends, it seemed about average.

>>60210835
what are they doing?

>>60205593
>If you wan to work with the best you have to be the best.

Bullshit job listing.

>>60214239
A 60k salary way too low for a software architect position with 8+ years experience. That's a starting salary.

>>60206924
>pairing computer science with something more theoretical instead of something that would pretty much guarantee you a job

Finance, accounting, operations management, most sciences, sales, any trade... everything that isn't a fucking Silicon Valley startup needs good programmers who have a strong background in the area, but everybody wants to make shitty social media fart apps. Even statistics would have set you up to be a "real data scientist".

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>>60211892
>Live in Silicon Valley
>35% of wage goes to rent
>Work like a coked up Jap

>Live /comfy/ NEET existence
>30% lower wage
>Get called Pajeet on /g/

>>60223186
poor fag

>programming for 2 years
>see this thread
>can't afford uni
What do I learn to not be a pajeet?Algorithms? Data structure? Creative trade?

mfw 3 years experience and I only get €45k

>>60223890
Learn iOS/Android, make several apps and have a fat Github profile and you should be fine.

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>apply for job
>show up to office for interview
>ping pong table
>random nerf bullets below foosball table
>balcony
>open concept
>foosball fridays
>beer o'clock thursdays
>single washroom with only one toilet
>interviewer says "we're like one big happy family here"

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Found the link for OP's job
https://app.crossover.com/x/redirect/job/682?utm_campaign=LIz1170

Apparently it's a remote job, which makes it a pretty good deal tbqh.

>>60224054
>Apparently it's a remote job, which makes it a pretty good deal tbqh.
If you read their glassdoor page they make you install management software which takes a screenshot every 10 minutes and constantly records you via a webcam to make sure you're actually working. And since it is salary you can be damned sure they're going to try to work you more than 40 hours a week. Enjoy being some micromanaged that you have to time when you take a shit to make sure you dont get fired.

>>60224285
Lol, that's bullshit. It's like being treated like a min-wage employee.

>>60224285
Holy shit that's bullshit

>>60205704
>senior full stack developer
>lead abilities
>stressful environment with shitty deadlines set by management
>supposed to learn yourself what the fuck you need to do to fulfill managements crazy ideas
I'd take it for 600k

>>60224285
ayy lmao

>>60223890
do what pajeet does, lie about everything
unfortunately, you cannot lie about certs as well as pajeet can, so you will have to actually earn those

>>60206066
>billing analyst
>take job
>analyze that the company is shit with money
>job done, quit

>>60210549
Are you seriously complaining about that big international companies are hiring internationally?
I mean seriously, explain your position.

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>60K job

You can't take it with you when you die, silly wagecucks.

>>60205830
u wot?

60k would be a *dream* and over twice what I earn as a cybersecurity dev desu

>>60205704
Does anyone even use soap anymore outside of legacy? I never seen that shit except in school.

>>60205593
>8+ years of Android development
k no prob, hire me now >:^}J

>>60210549
>>60210955
I'm aware that a math graduate who knows how to program is far more desirable in many areas than a CS graduate. Wish if I majored in that.

>>60205593
>"the best"
Office grunt with an iq of 110-120.

>No dress code!
Less valuable than a blue collar worker.

>>60210835

Semi related but Im doing phd in solid state physics and I will be very happy, if I will get 2,2k PLN per month after taxes - thats 550 USD if you wish.

> I fall for the business meme

I want to kill myself everydays

>senior application developer wanted

Even jobs are now apps. Fuck Apple.

You also have to have a personality and minimal social skills so none of you on /g/ can apply

>>60224285
> create camera loop
> install management software on VM with a bot that pretends to code

suckers

>>60206016
why are you making of being retired? its a srs condition fuckface

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>>60205593
Good understanding of soap and ajax?

>>60205683
supercharged kek
first time someone made me laugh irl on /g/

>>60205593
>ability to handle multiple projects at once while meeting aggressive production deadlines
>aggressive production deadlines
amazing

>>60205683
>live in your car wages
If you can't live and survive off of 60k a year, there is something seriously wrong with you and you should seek help.

>>60206157
Why do they want h1bs in particular? Can someone explain me why an American who will work for the same amount isn't just as good

>>60228693
but it's a remote job anon

>>60230112
I guarantee you that any American with 8 years of experience willing to work for 60k a year is either lying about his experience or is just absolutely complete shit and probably couldn't write a FizzBuzz on his own.

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This thread has a disturbing lack of rogues in it.

>>60231120
>Rogues have respect for diversity
>We do no plan, budget, forecast, or waste time on getting bigger.
>We'll work your behind off yet this is not a $50k+ position. If you need that kind of money, PLEASE don't apply.

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>>60205593
>tfw working six hours a day (just finished shift, in car about to leave) being a diesel mechanic getting $67k a year with benefits, being part owner of a small mini-mart getting an additional $15k a year and DJing @ parties, weddings and events once a month bringing a lastly $14k a year
feels good man

>>60205893
Even in the mid Wes 60k is fresh grad territory, not almost a decade in the bisness with those skills. A position like that would be 80k to low six figures depending on city.

>>60230112
First, it is unlikely they would find such an american.

But perhaps more important is that h1b1 workers are only in the country as long as they are employed by the company, so while Bob may take the job he is much less worried about being fired/layer off since he can just find another one. But Dinesh on the other hand will work many extra hours and kiss much ass because if he loses his job, he, his wife, and 7 kids will be sent back to india.

So not only do you get cheaper labor, you get laborers that have added motivation to work extra off the books.

>>60215307
Fellow Foridian Master Race reporting (boca raton)

>>60229947
60k is likely live in a cardboard box wage if this is in bay area

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> go to interview
> pic related shows up to interview you
wat do?

>>60210484
No, the problem here is globalism. Capitalism isn't inherently globalist. Now fuck off commie.
>>>/leftypol/

>>60232766
what a stupid comment lmao

>>60232779
what's stupid about it? Elaborate, friend-o.

>>60218127
>he doesn't realize that 2k is living in a shoebox in silicon valley of the bay area
Not everyone lives in Wisconsin.

>>60231086
>all of that can be condensed to be good at google searching

>>60232842
DC metro area senpai

>>60210835
Keep in mind the average tuition is around 40k per semester. Thats fuckin 300k+ debt on the shoulders of a 20something fuccboi

>>60214392
But do you have a certificate that proves you own a toilet

That's around £46,000 in the UK. An upper middle class salary which will let you live pretty well even in London. What are you complaining about?

>>60205800
Uh... You mean the HTC Dream? Also known as the G1 on T-Mobile?

That was a production model, not just a developer phone. It was just big among developers because very early on the su binary was still part of stock Android so all you had to do to root was sideload a terminal emulator and type "su".

>>60232797
>capitalism
>not globalism
literally does not compute
capitalism pretty much always requires more growth, you think any large company would be sated with just one fief? Come on.

Okay, I'm going to break this down for all the foreigners and children living in low cost of living areas.

$60,000 gross per year would put you in a tax bracket where your net will be probably somewhere in the area of $39,000-$42,000 per year after your state and federal income tax is deducted, then social security, Medicare, etc So we'll call it $40,000 for simplicity.

Minus $3,000 annually for subsidized health insurance IF your employer offers it. So now we're down to $37,000.

Now, depending on where you live, your housing costs can vary drastically state by state and even city by city. For example, I live in a suburb of Baltimore, because I don't want to live in the ghetto. So I bought a condo in a pretty nice area, with plenty of trees and wildlife. People who rent out their condos in my building tend to get $2,500 per month for a 1 bedroom, $3,000 for 2. So we'll say you don't want to risk being shot going out to check the mail. Welp, there goes $30,000 PER YEAR.

So now you've got $7,000. Oh, but wait! What about food, electricity, cell phone, renter's insurance, car insurance, car payment, internet, gas, etc? And don't even THINK about applying for food stamps or energy assistance. You make more than $14,500/year so you're automatically disqualified from those programs.

Better get a roommate and split some of those costs and get used to leaving 2 hours early for work to take public transportation because $7,000 per year isn't even close to enough to cover all of those.

>>60218560
Better than Spain too... how is it possible? GDP per capita in Costa Rica is 10k USD.

>>60233962
Oh and I forgot to mention: I make $85,000/year and my $85,000/year career required nearly six years of college. Had I not been incredibly lucky and qualified for several grants because I'm the first one in my family to go to college so even though I'm a straight white male I'm getting minority grants, and if my employer didn't do tuition reimbursement for everything the grants didn't cover, I'd be buried under student debt on top of the above expenses.

I gross over $7,000 per month and that's BARELY enough to live comfortably, but I still have to save up for things and budget for fun shit, and do all of my own cooking because eating out just isn't a reasonable expense.

>>60233236
Bullshit, unless you're living in the ghetto. Two of the wealthiest counties in the US are in the DC metro area and cost of living is worse there than the Baltimore suburb I live in where $85,000 is barely living comfortably.

Where are you, fucking Brentwood?

>>60233962
$2500/month rent for 1-bedroom in Baltimore seems completely fucking insane to me (I'm from Europe). Sorry but you must be doing something wrong, it's just too much money.

what's the worst interview you've ever had?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm1eAOzMy8k

>>60205593
This only pays 60k? This sounds like a job a company is hoping to just make an H1B out of so they can pay 60k for a 120k job

>>60233670
I exhaled sharply upon reading this post.

>>60205593
>8 years experience
>60k
Glad I dropped out.

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>>60233962
>state income tax

*chuckles* I'll bet your state also has a sales tax. *continues chuckling*

>>60235178
>WI 7.65%
your graph is retarded, thats their top tax rate for those who make >$244k/yr on amounts over $244k
with that said it is still a retarded 6.27% for those making more than 22k/yr

>>60232503
It's remote.

>>60233734
Wages work differently in the US because there's the idea that you shouldn't pay taxes and you shouldn't expect a government to provide things.

>>60233962
>$2,500 per month for a 1 bedroom
So is this the power of america?

>>60206746
Fucking do it already ive seen you made this post several times on several boards
Ur all talk

>>60206746
lol are you pajeet bro

>>60231086
hmm, you meet most of our qualifications perfectly, too bad about that lack of A+ certification ..........................

>>60233962
spending $2500 a month when you only make $60k means you took a job with a garbage salary or you made terrible choices in general.

i started making 72k and i pay $700 a month for a 3 bedroom apartment

>>60236904
>i started making 72k
How?

>>60206746

you actually think shit would collapse? sure there may be a stop in produictivity but any culture or race would experience that since people would be leaving

whats funny too is out of all the programmers i know id say about 75% are white english speaking people.

MAGA

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>>60205593
Better than the crap I keep getting "offered" in my email.

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>>60237061
Part 2

Remember that this is for a fucking contracted position with an undisclosed company.

>>60232691
There was a cutie recruiter in one of my interviews and she kept moving her foot and almost brushing it against my leg from the other side of the table during it.

i ended up getting a call back, but i took another offer before.

>>60205593
With those requirements anything less than six figures is a joke.

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>>60237061
>>60237080
>SRI TECH

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>>60237061
>>60237080
Part 3

Also notice how everything in bold reads like it was mail merged en mass. Seems totally legit.

>>60236928
i work in network security, development is for nerds

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>>60237061
>>60237080
>>60237100
Part 4

At this point, I couldn't help but start laughing my ass off.

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>>60237061
>>60237080
>>60237100
>>60237116
Part 5

Yeah, that's totally his name. This job totally exists.

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>>60205593
Not even the worst I've personally seen.

>please fix our broken build system

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>>60237061
>>60237080
>>60237100
>>60237116
>>60237130
Part 6, final part

I AIN'T CLICKING THAT SHIT NIGGA!
----------------------

If anyone wants more, I'm tempted to start a general thread about these emails since I get them all the time (as opposed to actual valid job opportunities).

>>60205593
>Windows mobile framework
This isn't real.

>>60237098
You know what the most fucked up thing is? These guys seem like they're totally fly-by-night. There is no way these guys are more than 8-10 months old at most.

Oh, another email came in. Seriously thinking about starting that general thread now.

>>60237166
as much as seeing weird spam recruitment emails is fun, please do not think this warrants a fucking general.

please

>>60231676
wtf I have capitalism now

>>60237166
>You know what the most fucked up thing is? These guys seem like they're totally fly-by-night. There is no way these guys are more than 8-10 months old at most.
Their glassdoor reviews are all fake too, there isnt a negative reivew. 100% would recommend to a friend, 100% approve of the CEO for 36 reviews.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Sri-Tech-Solutions-Reviews-E610423.htm

>hired out college to some company working in some super nich high level language no ones ever heard of
>a few months in and already making 100k
ez pz

>>60237532
the problem with that is you limit yourself to what options you have where you can work

but focusing on obscure shit can work. shit, banks still hire cobol devs

>Public sector Budget analyst job
>55k starting with salary cap at 70k
>Plus all those government benefits

Comfy

>>60233962
>60k job out of uni
>rent, utilities, cell phone and internet total under 900 USD a month
>car payment + car/renters insurance + gas is ~550 a month
>health insurance is about 105 a month, and taken out of my paycheck pre-tax
>free life insurance totalling my base salary (60k)
>spend about 300-400 a month on food (fresh fish every day, and some decent wine every once in a while)
>net 1200-1500 bucks a month plus stock gains
Living in the south is fucking great, and it was 40s through 60s all winter, and now its mid 70s-80s every day.
Feels goodman. I don't work in tech/computers though

Looks like some of recruitment company. A lot of their positions are remote too.

Do you think that's bad? Here in Brazil, they ask everything in the OP to give you a scholarship valued at more or less US$ 300 per month. Some people even joked "With that many qualifications, I would ask for an helicopter to bring me to work."

>>60205593
it should be half of that.

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> tfw 1,5k a year job as Web dev
> not even memeing

>>60237824
Half? They should do it for free.

>>60237844
Do you live in Liberia?

>>60205906
no. it means that you faggots are overpaid for your work because there are lots of people who would do it cheaper.

>>60234014
Most people in Costa Rica that are actually good at what they do emigrate to the US, so experienced people within CR are rare as fuck

>>60237859

I live in Brazil

>>60237898
>no. it means that you faggots are overpaid for your work because there are lots of people who would do it cheaper.
No, the people who do it for cheaper are why my browser takes a giga of ram for every tab I have open. The people who do it cheaper are why things like VMware vCenter needs 10GB of RAM to manage a single host with ~50VMs.

>>60231086
That sounds tailor-made to catch ex-military folks.
Do they list what it pays?

>>60237932
Is that really a typical income there for someone working in a relatively professional job?

>>60209872
who would not? the business wants to make as much profit as possible and it wold get less profit if it has to pay overpriced american coders.

>>60214239
americans are greedy. they dont really need $5k/month or even deserve it for such simple jobs

>>60233962
theres no legit reason to live in high cost areas if you are a poorfag.

>>60233962
>People who rent out their condos in my building tend to get $2,500 per month for a 1 bedroom
and there are people who are seriously saying that there should be no government refulation on prices. this is what happens when there is no regulation.

>>60230652
I mean the real requirements not the ones they're lying about.

>>60238187
>and there are people who are seriously saying that there should be no government refulation on prices
>buy property
>government gets to decide what I can charge for rent
no. the market decides

>>60237844
>>60237932
I knew you were a huebro from the beginning, but you're a estagiário right?

>>60214272
ay paisano

>>60216941
This 3 years prof exp gives u 80k-100k job maybe even. More if ur lucky,

>>60238230
Bolsista

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>>60224047
everytime. everytime they end up shoving a big dick up your ass when it all seems perfect at first glance.

>>60238454
Jesus Christ, you're literally a parasite

>>60238638
Jesus Christ, you're literally a retard.

>>60206541
Tech needs to unionize BADLY.

ITT: Ungrateful, spoiled millennial fucks who know jack shit about the real world. You know how much 60k a year is worth to some people in this country? Let me give you a quick rundown. In life you start from the bottom, just like me. I was scrubbing the bathrooms for two years at a tech company while learning Java on the weekends. I have two kids and a wife that I provide for. I worked on countless projects before I was considered over a dozen other applicants for an entry level position.

Shit, you think you degree warrants you 60 fucking KAY a year! LOL. Jesus no wonder this country is headed down the shitter. Take it from me, I suck major cock just to make ends meet. Try coding a two by four out of a side panel air duct interface while the HR department is breathing down your neck because you got some faggots pronouns incorrect. THEN and only then, you have my permission to die.

Hooray H1B bait.

>>60231120
Rouge One?

>>60238868
>Shit, you think you degree warrants you 60 fucking KAY a year! LOL.
yes, because that's what someone paid me when I graduated.
Go cry about your sorry life somewhere else.

>>60238910
>responding to shit-tier bait.
You must have earned that 60k the same way your mother paid for your college.

>>60210835
Where I live, that's needed for a basic no frills life.

>>60238942
My employer doesn't pay me in scholarship money.

>>60210997
>You're already down to 2k per month for EVERYTHING else.
i spend less than 2k a month on everything, including rent, car payment/insurance, food, utilities, etc.
If I moved ~40 miles west, it would be a different story though

>60k/yr
>in fucking AUSTIN, Texas

holy shit the kikery

I'm a recent grad in Jacksonville, FL and I'm making 60k at a junior level almost entry level position

Burn whoever is making this decision at the stake, if it truly is a 60k/yr job

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>>60238868
>Try coding a two by four out of a side panel air duct interface while the HR department is breathing down your neck because you got some faggots pronouns incorrect

>>60205593
>8 years experience for shit that didn't even exist

I want off this capitalism ride

>>60238868
You jest but that's the kind of bootstrap shit my dad yells at me

Feels bad man

>>60238980
Anon, where do you work? I'm headed to back to Jax after graduation. I've applied to a couple places.

>>60238949
No but your mon does, we get that

Then you check out these companies and find they're filled with pajeet code monkeys who barely speak English much meet the qualifications posted.

>>60238868
>You know how much 60k a year is worth to some people in this country? Let me give you a quick rundown
Shove it up your ass. The only reason why you find 'value' in such miserable salary is because you never made this much before.
You are 'OK' with this shit because you are easily impressed by numbers.. it is OK though: after making so many mistakes such as 'cleaning bathrooms for a living, having a wife AND 2 kids (while cleaning bathrooms as main source of income) AND working on -countless- projects for free' you finally made the choice to take a step into improving yourself... a little bit.

>>60239041

Holy shit, Lucien?!

Dude no lie but your C# skills sucked. Please never put loops that parity checks an arraylist inside another loop that parity checks another arraylist.

Memeing aside, some dopey subsidiary in Riverside. GuideWell Source

I'll smoke you in Guilty Gear if you ever show up to jax weeklies anon

>>60206746
http://www.businessinsider.in/95-of-engineers-in-India-are-not-fit-for-IT-jobs-only-1-can-write-correct-codes/articleshow/58280411.cms

Lol, Indians suck as programmers. We won't be losing anything of value.

>>60238868
You're the problem with the US. You're the kind of person those conservakids talk about when they say cuck.

>>60238994
>Take it from me, I suck major cock just to make ends meet.

my sides are gone

>>60238187
It's also regulation that keep the prices high. When you put restrictions on new building construction, supply won't able to meet the demand. It doesn't make sense to raise property taxes while at the same time put a limit on rent and new construction.

>>60238868

>calls others entitled when they were too fucking stupid to 1. Get a degree that's worthwhile 2. Close their slags legs or use a rubber

You literally have nobody else to blame for your current situation than yourself. You sound like an incredibly bitter fuckwit anyway, so even if you DID progress at all nobody would want to work under you or promote you to PM anyway you fetid rotting cunt

>>60238187
>we need more regulations to counter these rising living costs!
>more regulations worked for the past hundred years as costs kept going up!

?

>>60234138
>fucking Brentwood
wew, tfw shoutout

>>60205593
These are actually the best positions to apply for.

You can slap all the BS you want on your resume, and just play keyword tag.

When you are interviewed, you can guarantee that the person doing it is either:
* A complete idiot
* Sick of company BS and secretly looking for a buddy to give him free kudos in exchange for kudos - makes management happy

If you are careful, you can have your way with them.

>>60214295
This one right here

>>60205593
Top zozzle. I get 65 to swap desktops out for people when they break them. That's actually the full extent of my role.

>>60206194
>If you are a respected programmer who can get most programming jobs easily
most of /g/ has already failed that part

>>60233962
>spending half of your salary on rent

Oh, no no no, anon. No. You are in zero position to give financial advice

It's ok anons

There is a solution

Work for DOD as a contractor.

Immigrants are banned and are vetted to the extreme, purposely to make them revoke themselves from the pool.

300k for server engineers in a main DC. 1200 a day for Cisco engineers. 110k for application support, which is creating print queues.

>>60238868
>Shit, you think you degree warrants you 60 fucking KAY a year!
This is the quite lower than the average for fresh college faggots with BS in Engineering or CS my senpai
Also >>60239294 you fucked up yourself, if you didn't want to deal with it you should had committed suicide long ago
Even just falcon punching your wife (which is probably with Jamal right now seeing how much of a cuck you're) would had fixed your life
>>60239218
1% of Indian programmers is a few thousands, there's a shitton of Indians senpai
The figure for American programmers that can actually write correct code shouldn't be that far from the Indians figure, there's a reason why every graduate gets triggered by whiteboards

>>60234053
>tfw making $85k after almost 2 years in work force and 4 year degree
I live in one of the largest cities in the US and I have more than enough money to live comfortably. I don't know that I could actually outspend how much money I make.

>>60205593

This is a fake job posting used to demonstrate """"a lack of qualified candidates"""" so the company can bring in more Pajeets under work visas.

t. Bayfag

>>60210484
>t. pajeet

>made 25k last year after taxes
Fuck I need to get into IT or something so I can actually afford to live

>>60226346
Move out of bumfuckistan

>>60231120
Legit autism

>>60210549
i'm sure there are many high skill graduates among these that are being poached from their countries

>>60210835
I need like 500€ a month
but I live in a shared flat
I could move in my own place but honestly I don't want to
don't need 5 rooms, 2 baths, my own kitchen and shit
I like my room like it is and the money I can spend on useless shit I don't need at the end of the month

here are some hints: internet, television and other stuff is super cheap because I don't pay for it alone
I don't own a car, a motorcycle is way cheaper, needs way less fuel, costs less taxes and insurance

some people just burn their money and complain afterwards that they have none for the fun things in life

>>60205593
Coming from failing Amazon interview.
Q1. Given 2D array of binary elements where each row is sorted. Find the row with maximum 1's in less than O(n^2)
Example:
0 0 0 0 1
0 0 0 1 1
0 0 1 1 1
0 1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1 1
Ans: 4rth row.

Q2. Given a number n. Remove all nth element and join the remaining elements to form a linked list.

Q3. Given a range [a,b] decide if a binary tree has all the elements in that range.

>mfw i couldn't do anyone of them
Time limit 1 hour.

>>60205593
U ppl are retard. No one applies to that job.
Juniors get it.

>>60238868
the rest of the world will be like africa too when the old people die and millenials get to decide about important things.

>>60238967
this. why even own a car if you cant drive a few miles per day with it to work to save thousands every month?

>>60242938
not really hard desu
that's first semester

for what position did you apply?
cleaning lady?

>>60240362
yes because american workers are greedy idiots. no one there needs $100k/year but you choose to live in the most expensive places because you are lazy fat greedy idiots that cant drive few minutes every day. there are people doing real work that have to do much more for less then 60k/y

>>60242938
Nice, can the first 2 and the last one is a bit hazy in my mind.

>>60242938
I find the last two easy but the first hard. I probably couldn't fully implement them all correctly in an hour:

1. ~15 minutes
>go through each row, keep the row index of the current highest count of ones.

2. ~30 minutes
It doesn't mention the initial data structure is a linked list, so will assume a 1d array.

>implement linked list
>iterate over array and link to last node unless you are on nth iteration, reset when you hit that iteration.

3. ~1 hour

Really if you write a good API for your binary tree you could just iterate over it but that's actually pretty complex. The problem here is implementing the binary tree with that iterator aspect (Binary tree itself is ezpz). Ensuring each number is within it is trivial as well once you have that aspect.

I would do the first 2 and write my idea of how to implement it the third question.

>>60231120
This sounds like someone I'd like to punch in the mouth.