/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Ryzen is a meme, wait for Raven Ridge.

Newbie here. Do I necessarily need a FreeSync monitor to go with the 1600 and RX 570? Does it make a significant difference? A monitor is the final thing I need, but it being FreeSync ups the price quite a bit.

Fellow Canadians, is it possible to get a decent 1080p IPS panel around $150-180?

Is there a functional difference between a 580 4gb and 570 is 1080p?
What if I upgrade to 1440p? I want to be able to play all my shit in Ultra.

>>60204913
i dont understand why your monitor needs to have Freesynch. I don't understand why you can't just limit the FPS in your games settings to match your refresh rate

>>60204920
>play all my shit in Ultra
>1440p
1080 is the one to get

>>60204946
I already have a 1080p monitor. Should I opt for the 570 or the 580 4gb?

>>60204977
you said you might upgrade to 1440p and want to run at ultra.

580 are the best 1080p value cards, 1070-1080 is best for 1440p and 4k at 30 frames

>>60204999
Alright, that's what I was curious about. I guess I'll opt for the 580 4gb and stick to 1080p then.

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Is it possible to cool a 80W cpu with a tower cooler, but without the fan?
The cpu will be capped at 50%.

>>60204913
IPS? Probably not. You can get 1080p 75hz Freesync TNs for like $105-$115 in the US.

>>60204920
RX580 8GB can play most games maxed at 1440p 60fps. But there are some games like GR Wildlands and Dishonored 2 that are shittily optimized and you'll have to drop all the way down to medium to keep over 60fps.

Best 1080 gtx card? Looking to spend around $500. 520 max

>>60205034
Definitely at capped load
You could probably do it at full load too but you'd have to orient it so the hot air rises through the fins.
Basically it would depend a lot of what way your case is facing.

I want to fuck the GPU dragon

>>60204920

RX580 runs most games at highest settings at 1440p

Remember you don't really need AA at that resolution so you can save some frames from that.

>>60205034
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1367-page5.html

Check out the "Passive Cooler Comparison: Thermal Rise" table to see how some tower heatsinks that are advertised as being capable of passive operation fare during an extended stress test.

It should be possible, but you'll want to buy a either a "passive" CPU heatsink tower or a dual tower heatsink, remove one of the fans, and explicitly set the middle fan (between the two tower heatsinks) to a static low PWM setting, like 20%, in the bios for near silent operation.

>>60204946
>>60204920
>Ultra
>1440p
>GTX 1080

Hah, for the next year maybe. Only do this if you plan on upgrading in 12 - 18 months.

If you're a more reasonable human being, you'll spend the extra 250 and buy a 1080 Ti. Then not need a new GPU for 2+ years

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how much should i charge my friend for my used i5 3570k?

>>60204718
...which is literally just a less beefy Ryzen but with GPU cores strapped on to it instead. Are you stupid?

>>60205390
Look up ebay prices

find cheapest

reduce by 25, 50 or 75% depending on how close of friends.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3mMZd6
Is there a better ryzen build for ~$850

>>60205400
You need that iGPU so you can run loonix and GPU passthrough Windows.

>>60205390
a reach around

>>60205390
I'd say about $70-80 unless it was a turd then you should just sell it on ebay.

>>60205467
Depends on what you want to do with it but for pure gaming, no.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6x3b6X

r8

Is using stock cooling on a 1700 a mistake? I've heard it's not too bad.

>>60204697

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCRJXH

>>60205630
It's fine but you shouldn't OC
You can probably get a higher clock but you probably wont be able to reach the turbo clock on all cores without going up to 90 degrees and ryzen turbo is really quite effective.
OC'd 1800Xs usually have -worse- single core performance because OCing disables turbo.

>>60205610
Pretty much just a console and media streaming. On a 2500k and 7970. I need an upgrade and don't care about oc and benchmarks anymore.

>>60205739
Then that is a good build.

>>60205630
That RAM will probably be limited to 2666MHz.
The CMK 3000MHz corsair modules arent very good for ryzen. the CMK 3200MHz are and the CMD 3000MHz will work at 2933MHz too.

>>60204697
This is a cute comic, what is it?

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>>60205910
Looks like something MSI has put toghether.
Apparently that dragon is some mascot based on their gaming logo

Is 3200MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB RAM compatible with a Gigabyte AM4 AX370 Gaming 5 Mobo? The supported memory list doesn't explicitly state it does but it supports virtually every modern Corsair kit it seems.

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I did it reddit!

Please tell me if it's incompatible or anything, I don't care about games or anything. I'll use it for heavy software compilation and 4K normietube streaming

>>60206435
the fan on the CM hyper sucks
>buying antivirus
faggotry
>radeon rx550
>2GB
what the fuck are you doing
>8GB of RAM
get at least 16GB, the more RAM the better, especially if you go into photography and run photoshop/lightroom
also get an SSD to stick your software into, it's not only games that benefit from fast load times

>>60205470
>run loonix and GPU passthrough Windows
>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>60206335
Compatible and functional are 2 different things.
It's pretty unlikely for it to completely not work but If it's not on the compatibility list it almost definitely wont work at 3200MHz and 2933MHz is also unlikely.
If there's not a single version of that ram family in the compatibility lists of any of the AM4 motherboards then you have to start worrying about straight up unbootable RAM.

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>>60206512
two riced desktops is better than one

>>60206531
wtf I love your setup now

Suggestions on how to improve this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ My budget is $900 and I'm saving for Vega if it turns out well. I'm a video editor/streamer/competitive fps gaymer.

>>60206547
Woops! Here is the link https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BHhr7

>>60206556
Did you check to see if that RAM is compatible? You also still need a GPU because Ryzen is like a Xeon, no iGPU included.

could i run skyrim enb mods with an rx480?

What is the margin of difference between an RX 480 8GB and a RX 580 4GB? I'm ignorant when it comes to graphics cards and I don't really understand the scale of quality with different GB

>>60206758
Yes. Get 8GB MSI RX 480.

>>60206770
one has higher clock speed on slightly higher power draw while the other is lower clock
one has more RAM if you do a fuckton of modding/high res textures in your videogames

>>60206770
RX500 series happen to be rebrands of RX400 series, with _very_ minimal improvements. Getting an extra 4GB VRAM with the RX480 is a larger upgrade than anything small bundled with the RX580 release.

>>60206858
Ok thanks. So hypothetically a 4GB of either series would be alright if I don't care about ultra high settings? Sorry, it's my first build.

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>>60206858
>slightly higher power draw
Lol

>>60206887
Now post the MSI and Gigabyte power draws.

>>60206881
RX 480 was meant to be a mainstream budget GPU, so yes.

>>60206556
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BHhr7

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qqKBHN

If you're going to wait for a GPU, you might as well benefit more from an intel 7700k. Also wish Ryzen builders would quit overspending for faster RAM and direct that money towards places where the money makes a bigger difference.

About to pull the trigger on my first build /pcbg/

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sm4qJV

I just tacked on a monitor too; is it alright for a 1080p setup?

>>60206947
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sm4qJV
Oz prices are so fucked.

>>60206839
i got the asus strix rx 480 for $180

>>60205156
>Remember you don't really need AA at that resolution so you can save some frames from that.
AA at the resolution still helps.
But you can inject SMAA into like any game, afaik. It's a lot faster than MSAA 4x shit.

>>60206978
>Asus
Better check the quality on the coolers.

>>60206973
I know, it breaks my heart but what can ya do

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>>60206920
I couldn't find a decent review with a gigabyte one but I did find something.
If i were to put slightly in front of anything in your sentence it would be "higher clock speed" because damn the performance gains from this power draw are marginal as fuck.
Even the sapphire card with the 980ti tier TDP was only around 10% faster than a stock 480.

>>60204718
If you're looking to buy a laptop then sure, wait for Raven Ridge. But don't expect it anytime this year. AMD roadmap has that scheduled for Q4 which realistically means actual products Q1 2018. Until then it will continue to be nothing but Intel+NVidia laptops available. This annoys me as a GNU/Linux user since NVidia GPUs aren't an option. Honestly, though, the only reason to get a new laptop is that they are shifting to 1080p IPS as the standard (though they should just go 1440p or 4k already) which is a step up from that garbage 1366x768 TN standard that we've had for nearly a decade (why can a cheap Chinese tablet manufacturer make a laptop with a 3000x2000 pixel IPS screen, 8MP webcam and a garbage Atom Intel CPU but Lenovo can't make a laptop with a decent screen and a usable webcam when they charge ten times more?).

>>60206973
If you think that's bad you should see the shipping.
Same day shipping is a myth here and the only way you'll get next day shipping is if you order early in the morning and the sender is in the same city as you.
Also the prices would seem ridiculous to americans.

>>60207023
Ikr. That's my build and each fucking part is like $20 shipping. I tried my local shops but either they had nothing or were WAY more expensive again.

What's the best brand for the rx500s? I've seen people say both ASUS and gigabyte are junk.

>>60204913
You can definitively get a 1080p IPS for $150 in Canada because that's pretty close to what we have to pay for one in Europe. Make sure you look for a shop that's got the latest technology because the amount of cheap/affordable IPS monitors exploded Q1 2017. A monitor from say Q3 2016 that's been sitting in stock will have a price-tag of perhaps $220 while just-released ones will be more like $150. Also, Lenovo has some rather nice 1440p 24" IPS panels for $200 and 27" 1440p IPS panels at $300.

My advice? If you're going to buy a R5 1600 and a RX 570 then you should definitively buy a 27" 1440p IPS to go along with that. Think about it, you're paying a whole lot of money for a computer. Why wouldn't you spend enough to get a great picture out of it?

Oh one last little detail. You absolutely do not want to buy a TN panel, not in 2017. Those are no longer worth it and they aren't even cheaper than IPS panels anymore.

>>60204936
> Freesync
Nice to have, but you don't need it. If you're looking at two almost identical 27" 1440p IPS panels at the same price-point and one has freesync and the other doesn't then take the one with freesync. If the freesync one is $50 extra then don't bother.

>>60207066
Powercolor Red Devil and Sapphire Nitro+
MSI regressed, they had a good thing going only to fuck it up in the next release

>>60205034
yes/no. :) I use a Pure Rock 140W TDP cooler on a 65W CPU. It has a fan on it that's PWM controlled and rarely spinning.

The CPU is sitting between 36-40C without the fan 99% of the time. If I start something which taxes all the CPU cores at full load over time like ffmpeg video encoding then the temperature will go up above 50C after 15-20 minutes and then the fan kicks in. It's barely possible to hear it at about 900 RPM but it spins.

A lot of massive "big" cooler will do just fine without a fan most of the time but unless it's a really insanely huge one like the NoFan's then you'll probably want to have a mostly unused but connected fan. You can't expect to be able to do something like video encoding which puts full load on all CPU-cores for hours and hours with a passive heatsink. That's obviously not what you'll be doing most of the time but you need a fan for those rare occasions.

>>60207066
xfx seems to always be pretty solid and is rumored to have good customer service

>>60206715
I believe it is. Not sure how to check though. It's Samsung B-die

Is power supply corsair vs650 good for ryzen and rx 480?

Pulling the trigger on my first build amd need advice, especially on my mATX case+mobo combo. r8 but don't h8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHx6VY

>>60207661
$215 for a 4GB RX580 is pretty meh. Just get a good RX570.
And get a bigger SSD.

Is an Intel Core i7 @ 3.6GHz decent for a CPU?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nJV7BP

quite expensive to get a low tier pc.

mobo is necessary for wifi+ bluetooth
hard drive is also necessary and barracuda 2016 is the best drive for longlivety

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This is my first build so this might be an extremely retarded question:

Do I need to hook up both of my CPU and VGA cables from my power supply? And is the peripheral for the monitor? I'm an idiot. I'm well aware.

>>60207833
Just to let you know, it's on an MSI 350 tomahawk MB using a RYZEN 1700x processor.

>>60207833
>CPU cables
gpu caple to monitor, ignore mobo cables

>>60207831
>barracuda 2016 best drive for longevity
>basing that on 1 year of results
nah, i dont buy it. seagate has had problems before, and until i see 5+ years of good performance im not buying it
until then the tried and true hgst nas drives are still king in my book

In Canuckland I can get an RX570 4GB for $278
CAD or an RX480 8GB for $330 CAD.
What's the better option?

Anyone decide to build the $1500 computer put together by Tech Deals? I'm thinking about it. Including monitor and peripherals and OS it looks like its coming out to $2500. Might upgrade on the case because the one suggests is kind of ugly.

>>60205070
Asus strix

>>60207962
>basing that on 1 year of results
thats not how stress tests work, and also they have had 5+ years of good performance, it was like one drive that had a horrible failure rate that skewed there results. Also hgst has increased their failure rate after the western digital acquisition

>>60207857
I have literally no clue what you mean...

>>60208120
yeah literally noone knows what your talking about

I have decided on an RX 480 for my first build... do brands actually matter?

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So I just bought an open box Z170 s off of newegg. I was expecting it to be missing some components but certainly not the I/O shield. Finally get it in the mail and it came with 4 sata cables and would you guess, no I/O shield. I called asus to confirm it still had the 5 year warranty if shits fucked and luckily it does. Asus said they only machine the exact amount of I/o shields as they have boards and basically told me to pack sand. I found one on ebay though. Turns out this guys has a shitton of I/Os in his listings along with other misc stuff. It shipped from within driving distance to the newegg DC. I'm betting this fuck takes the parts from openboxes and sells them on eBay.
/rant

>>60208212
>17 dollarydoos for a backplate

Literal rape.

anyone in australia want an i5 3570k + gtx 670 build? comes with h100 cooler. $300

>>60208253
I feel your pain. I got the MSI 350 tomahawk mobo and bought the cryorig H7 cooler. Well come to find out the H7 requires a special bracket for the AMD mobo. Contacted their customer service and it's obvious it's a ton of pajeet who barely know how to speak English by the way they typed. After proving my purchase they sent me a free bracket and said it would take 4-7 days. 8 days later and he hasn't shown up and I contact their CS again for a tracking number but their lack of English made them just say "it's been sent already" next day it arrived. So I had to wait 9 days to finish my first build ever.

>>60208353
boo hoo

>>60207244
Yes

Best GPU to run most games at 1080p on 144Hz?

Would a RX 580 suffice?

>>60208468
I'm not sure if any CPU can run most games at 144fps.
The games dont use enough threads and single threaded performance even on intel's cpus isn't good enough

>>60208489
games are GPU based desu, 1080 could do constant 144 frames at 1080p

At what point is power supply efficiency not worth the jump in price
Bronze? Silver? Gold?

>>60208539
You do not know enough about computers to be correcting people about... pretty much anything.

>>60208581
Get gold. It's 90% efficiency rating.

Basically power delivery isn't linear so if you have a shitty psu it could drop too low and crash your shit (true story)

>>60208597
Wrong.

>>60206435
>garbage cooler
>garbage mobo
>slow RAM
>only 8GB
>workstation
>only 1TB WD fucking Blue
>no SSD
>ITX case for mATX board
>USB wifi
Pure autism. Just buy a prebuilt or a Mac like the other retarded normies before you hurt yourself.

>>60208611
See like that.
Don't do that.
The only posts you should be making is questions so you can be less dumb.

>>60208636
Wrong. I'm a computer science major

Doing my first real build and have a couple of questions. I've watched the full new egg tutorial and understood it all, have changed parts in my current machine but would like to ask.

I want to make a SD card Windows 7 installer. Is there a difference between a USB drive and using a USB card reader with an SD card? I would use a USB drive but my appears to have gone walk about.

I have a 2nd hard drive in my current PC I would like to put in the new one. It's also windows 7, will I have any problems just fitting it in, installing windows then connecting the cables to make it a slave drive?

I'm a little concerned with air flow. Is it now just a case of pointing fans at holes rather than the previous technique of designing an air flow system to move air round the case?

>>60208734
You may want to consider another career path.
Or studying. Or like, attending lectures, i duuno.
You shouldn't be saying things like "games are GPU based" with any kind of formal education that's for sure.

>>60208777
you're still wrong.

>>60208624
Good reasons to back your claims, faggot. I liked them. You do realise it's not a gaming PC, right?

>>60208763
>Is it now just a case of pointing fans at holes
What?
It's front and side, intake back and top output.
You shouldn't have all fans doing any one direction.

>>60208624
Also,
>ITX case
wtf?!

>>60208805
Back in my day sonny Jim PCs had basically 1 fan which was made the air look in a U shape. Cases were 1 sealed thing with holes only on the back. I'm looking at modern cases and they're covered in fan vents. That makes me wonder if air flow design matters these days.

Can I use windows 7 paired with a ryzen CPU or will I run into big problems? I plan to install it via CD.

>>60208827
It matters more, that's why there needs to be more and bigger fans.
You just need to point them in the right direction or you end up with something stupid like all intakes or intakes on the back and top fighting against convection

>>60204697
I want to fuck the dragon

>>60208832
you'll run into two smalls annoying problem:
mouse & kb not working because missing drivers, and windows 7 refusing to update. There's a workaround for both but you'd have to google it, no idea what to do

>>60208872
>>60208827
For fan layouts you want more positive pressure, it's better for dust management as long as all your intakes are filtered

I have about 3 intakes and 1 exhaust on my system

I7-870 instead of i3-550 or do I give up and upgrade the motherboard? I have a gigabyte gtx950 and just want to play DEUM

>>60207084
>Nice to have, but you don't need it.


Well, you don't _need_ anything, really.
But still, even with frame cap, you're still gonna get tearing and stutter so...

>>60208913
The sockets are the same but you have to check if your motherboard is compatible.
It might not have the power delivery available to run a 95watt CPU

>>60208956
And even if, I may have to upgrade the cooling right? I'm really just asking if it's worth it.

Will a slave drive under windows 7 work okay with a windows 10 PC?

>>60208800
You realize this build is complete trash, regardless of whether gaming or not, faggot?

>>60206435
drop 1800x to r7 1700
ditch cooler or get a $30 one, either is fine.
get better ram, 2666hz if it's not much more expensive
mITX isn't mATX, your mobo isn't going to fit your case. Either get your hand somehow on that biostar mITX AM4 board, or change the case to an mATX.
Downgrade the PSU, your shit would run fine even on 400w. Put 550w.
Why are you buying an anti virus?

just finished my pc build, R7 + 1080. what now?

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>>60209197

>>60209205
i bought for honor. it's shit.

>>60209248
did you seriously buy a high end purpose "just because" and now are wondering what to do with it
give it to some poor kid in africa or something idk

8GB Sapphire RX 480 or 4GB XFX RX 580?

>>60209248
with all those cores on that R7 you could run 10 Runescape bots without lagging and play a real game at the same time.

>>60209263
i try to upgrade every 5 years

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>>60209309
fuck, that's so creative

>>60204697
thinking of upgrading to GTX950 from my old gtx 650. Have a 450w psu. Is it possible?
I have no interest in playing at high resolution/high settings. Just want ro play the more "modern" games at a smoother framerate and the 650 isn't doing it.
Gonna replace ram soon after.

>>60209364
As long as it's not an OEM PSU and it's got a PCIe 6 or 8 pin, you could got much further than a 950 with 450watts.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QYf9LD

How does it look? The only thing I'm still unsure about is the RAM. I went through the QVL for the mobo and all the exact alternatives that should work painlessly are just too much in maple dollars. I just want to have a solid time with 1080p/60Hz, nothing more.

>>60209577
>I just want to have a solid time with 1080p/60Hz, nothing more.
Then you can downgrade the ram to a 2400mhz, assuming it's a lot cheaper
Also, get a freesync monitor. Unless you like this one particularly for some reason.

>>60209577
>>60209613
with ryzen you should go with faster ram imo. there's no reason do downgrade it when your mobo supports it.

>>60209700
moneys, and the fact that he isn't anywhere near getting bottlenecked by his cpu

What's the best SSD for 100$? Would be willing to bump it to 125 tops if the value is there and its worth overspending for

how sketchy is it to buy newegg refurb shit? specifically a motherboard?

>>60209109
Okay anon. Can I get your suggestion from here?
https://www.ple.com.au/Custom-Built-PC/627268/PLE-Custom-AMD-Ryzen-AM4-Desktop-PC-System

>>60209905
>okay anon can you put the list together for me
no. also, use pcpartpicker, it has an australian version.

>>60209926
I do not want to assemble PC

>>60209938
i'm still not gonna make the list for you

Should I move the case fan on top grill of NZXT s340 to front side? Having one back blowing out and one front sucking in seems more sensible than two in close proximity but I don't know much about heat management desu.

Yeah that would be better

>>60209205
kek

>>60210200
whoops>>60210061

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>>60204697

Could you recommend me a 1440p 27 inch monitor at a reasonable price? I actually wanted dell U2715H but that's a bit expensive, are iiyamas any good?

>>60205956
kawaii

any porn?

>>60210353
What is this some kind of ideal model of a shitty build?

>>60210353
>croyig a40 ultimate
waste of money, go for a $80 air cooler, performs 2°C less and is much easier to maintain.
>2 samsung evo ssd
you could find cheaper ssds with same speed & capacity with other brands
get an x370 mobo, b350 doesn't into xfire
>mATX case
doubt you're gonna fit two gpu in there

AGESA 1.0.0.6 SOON

>>60210422
when?

>>60210353
I hope this is trolling

>>60210211
Thanks m8, do you think it would have any effect on CPU temps? I have a r5 1600 and it's sitting at 40-50 degrees at idle with stock cooler, seems a bit too high desu.

Ryzen 7 1700 or i7-7700K for gaming?

>>60210536
7k for gayming, Ryzen for multimedia, Broadwell for a best of both

>>60210536
just gaming? 7700k is better
but i doubt it's fit for you in any way.

>>60210442
It wont have any effect on idles.
Poor airflow effects long system load temps as the air inside the case heats up.
As for whether that change alone would affect anything, probably.
Outtakes are a pretty bad choice to have both fans be. it forms a negative pressure inside the case when can suck dust in from all kind sof places but most problematically the GPU area is likely to receive no air as the out takes can just suck air in around the fans and other holes above the gpu.
Having an intake pointed at the thing causing most of the heat and an outtake on the opposite end of the case with a neutral to slightly positive internal pressure is ideal

Just ordered all the parts for my first build after days of deliberation. Feeling excited and nervous. Any advice about a first time build that isn't otherwise listed in the wiki?

>>60210580
Thanks m8

>>60210654
Calm your horses, I got my butt devastated when I finished building and had to RMA the gpu due to coil whine
Now I'm stuck shitposting on iGPU

http://www.zalman.com/ru/contents/products/view.html?no=15
Yay or nay?

>>60210712
>Corsair 850w PSU
>open in a wire somewhere causing full system shutdowns if you just barely bump the case
>RMA
>brand new one of newest model sent to me
>play game
>BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT REEEEE BZZZZZZZZZ
>RMA again
>they said coil whine isn't considered a defect and won't accept it

fuck me

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Posted this yesterday but made some slight changes. What do you think?

>>60206531
Autism

>>60210878
Almost exactly my build lmao

>>60207833
Cpu cables?

If you bought a gpu, connect your monitor to the powered gpu from the power supply. You don't want to use the motherboard video inputs except if you are setting up the gpu drivers.

>>60210878
That rx 480 has a reference cooler, get an aftermarket one. This one will run hot and loud, unless you want to spend $40 on an artic gpu cooler.

Working on first build, how many case fans should I use? Not looking for an exact number but "the more the merrier" or "why the fuck would you want more than X". I'm looking to overclock a 1600 on stock cooler as well as an RX 580.

I need a good idea from someone. I need quite the computer:
>Video editing/rendering
>3D modeling (maybe ill use indigo renderer)
>gaming (latest games should run smoothly)
>lots of space (3 TB min)

Europe

>>60211025
3 is plenty enough. You also have to take the case included fans into account: the fractal design define r5 includes 2 140mm fans (one at the back and one at the front), on top of a built-in fan speed controller, so you can just buy a $10 140mm NON-PWM fan (speed can't be regulated) and you can still set the speed of the fans yourself.

>>60211041
make the build yourself, read the op.

>>60211025
Depending on the type and size of your case, 2 intakes in the front side and 2 outakes in the back/top for an air cooled build is approaching overkill. Usually a big intake fan on low RPM in the front and a 12 or 14cm in the back is more than enough for a nice airflow unless your case is excessively cramped.

The more doesn't always mean the merrier. I had 2x12cm on the top of my case blowing air out and they were doing more harm than good to the airflow in my particular case.

>>60211055
Thanks, any opinions on thermaltake core V21 matx case? I've seen good reviews thus far, it's less than 60 dollars, and the cube shape pleases me for some stupid reason.

>>60204697
what does /g/ recommends for a monitor? i'm looking for something with good image quality, i'm going to use it for /ic/ stuff and CAD, not going to use it for games, must be IPS and i can only spend $500 but i can strech it to $600, 4K if possible, but 1440p is fine, can be either new or used, already have a calibrator too.

>>60211041
R7 + Titan xp + 64gb of RAM + all the drives you can afford + define r5

>>60211115
airflow will be pretty tight in here, doubt you're going to see much success oc'ing your cpu on stock cooler.

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In USA. I've thought about buying an LGA1155 motherboard+xeon. What's the most I should spend it you think it's worthwhile?

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBZ2FT/aoc-monitor-g2460pf
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe

Is the asus worth the price difference here?

>>60211001
Will it be the same with an rx 580?

>>60211205
100 bux

Is there a reason why Logical increments isn't being mentioned?

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>>60211250
depends on which one you pick, the difference between reference & non reference cooler is pretty easy for anyone to tell.

>>60211250
Nope, all 580 have aftermarket coolers. Always avoid GPUs with reference blower designs unless you're sticking it into an extremely tight mITX case or you're going to watercool it.

They don't call them "leafblowers" for nothing, I think most of us learned the hard way when they started manufacturing those.

>>60211205
just what do you do with your computer that requires a xeon?

>>60211228
No, because you'd be losing freesync in the process.

>>60211348
Nothing that a 2500/k wouldn't be able to do, but xeon's are typically cheaper by $20-40

>>60211365
So the AOC is better in price and quality? Part of the reason I thought the asus may be better was because it seemed like it coulda been a bit too good to be true being that cheap.

Would aliexpress be a decent site to buy a used motherboard from, so long as I get some form of buyers' insurance?
Otherwise, what'd be some good sites for used motherboards? I impulse bought an i7 3930k for $170 AUD, and I have no idea why I did it, but I'm sticking with it.

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should i upgrade?

>>60211420
Is there something you want to do on your computer that you currently cannot, or with very shitty performance?

whats the best 1440p monitor for gaming and 'content creation'

want something good on the eyes and with the best colour but also fast for gaymen

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Any thoughts on my build? I mainly want to swap out the motherboard for a nicer one but don't know what to choose and most of my options seem to be MSI. Also the 1080 is founder edition just because it is lowest in price, I'll probably get it off of like Ebay when the time comes.

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>>60211501
>gtx1080
>$490
death to america t b h

>>60211501
>shit mobo
>shit cooler
>(((founders edition)))
>shit budget case
>EVGA NEX

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>>60211386
The asus uses PWM (pulse width modulation) and has the flicker that generally comes with it, the aoc one does not (it uses DC which doesn't have this artifact). It has a tendency to cause eyestrain and mild discomfort to some people (some, not most).

>>60211501
You can save a lot of money these ways:
- Get 1600, OC manually, no need for aftermarket cooler for a mild OC (~3.8GHz) because the bundled stock cooler is surprisingly decent.
- Scale down to a B350 board. X370 chipset is only good for crazy overclocks, SLI/CF support or if you absolutely need the insane amount of I/O or SATA ports
- Consider scaling down to mATX

>>60211446
idk are new games worthwhile at all? been stuck in 2006-2011 era of gaming and playing world of warcraft vanilla/tbc/wotlk on private servers for the past decade. It kinda sucks having 10fps in dalaran too.

>>60204913
I'm new too. Looking for a monitor around 24-27in, 144hz, ips, freesync, 1080p, with an hdmi cable and display port and isn't curved. I can't find anything affordable.

Fucking microcenter isnt stocking the am4 brackets and it took corsair like 4 days to ship it. Friday I will finally be able to see how far I can push my 1700.

>>60211537
Seems to be a common issue with Asus. I once had a Asus VH24 whatnot and it had ridiculous ghosting.
CSS on dust was a shitshow. Sold that thing and bought a BenQ GL2450, great monitor if you dont mind the angles.

>>60207084
>> Freesync
>Nice to have, but you don't need it. If you're looking at two almost identical 27" 1440p IPS panels at the same price-point and one has freesync and the other doesn't then take the one with freesync. If the freesync one is $50 extra then don't bother.

Since getting one I really started to notice screen tearing. For some reason especially on desktops not even in games. Drag a window across the screen and I will spot it.

>>60211581
What is the main benefit to mATX vs ATX besides price and smaller size? I am aiming for this computer to be easily upgradable in the future and ATX seemed like a good choice for that. I also do have the money for this build and want to make sure it is a good one.

>>60211604
Try Asus MG248Q, 249Q model should be the IPS version if available. I have that one in 27"/1440p version and couldn't be happier. It also looks like it's the cheapest you can go for the features you want.

What are people's personal favorite motherboard companies? I have only ever had MSI and want to look elsewhere for working with my Ryzen 5 1600X.

I almost had my new micro atx build complete but now i have to wait for the AM4 corsair bracket

how dead is DVI?

>>60211673
Can I get help with a keyboard and mouse that are combined under 50?

>>60211802
As dead as your mom lmao

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>>60211889
shes alive

what did he mean by this?

somewhat related to this thread, I just received a 2009 macbook pro from my friend but its slow as shit, I want to upgrade the ram but its listed as £77 for 2 x 4GB do i need the special ram or will any ddr3 do?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h9f9LD

any changes?

have everything else. RX580 should be fine for high settings 144hz yeah?

>>60212147
at what res? 1080p, yeah. 1440...ehh....

>>60212169
yeah 1080p, don't plan on 1440 for a while

>>60211620
I got 240hz/gsync meme and it's one way ticket, can't look at tears/stutters / low fps gameplay anymore

>>60212245
how can you play anything other than csgo and dota?

>>60212147
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h9f9LD
While 8gb ram should suffice it will still get filled while playing AAA titles with browser and common background programs open. Also 2x8gb kits are cheaper per gb than 2x4gb ones. Consider dropping ram speed to 2400 if it is over budget. Also consider 1440p60hz gaming over 1080p144hz unless you already own a monitor with 1080p144hz, 1440p is pretty much perfection for 27-32' monitors and unless you're used to super high fps gaming you shouldn't really experience less smooth gameplay with a 60hz monitor also they're typically cheaper.

For general gaming and internet use. I dont play triple A games. Dont care about directX12
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kKPnqk

>>60212272
I play Overwatch and blizz moba :^)
But 7700k + gtx1080 can push pretty much anything to ~200 fps if I turn off few resource hogging effects

>>60212278
yeah already own the monitor :/ and i've thought about going with 16gb but the cheapest kit i could find on pcpartpicker in canada is $169 before taxes and i heard that you needed high speed ram for ryzen? or is that wrong

is it a bad idea to buy refurbished tech from newegg?

>>60212419
how much is the 7700k oc'd?

I have a SHITLOAD of old CDs to rip, what are some optical drives you would recommend for getting through them quickly and accurately? I want to go full 100% FLAC autismo

ok, i have 2 1080p monitors (one at 75hz and one at 60hz). i don't really plan on playing on anything higher than high settings and im not "le competitive gaymur". that being said, can i get away with the 570 4GB for the next 2-3 years, or should i be looking at 570 8GB/580?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3qknn

Alright lads, made some changes and now the build seems complete, though I'd like some final opinions before my shopping spree

It's for a lot of gaming, and quite a bit of 3d modeling, animating, and film editing. Trying hard to keep it under $1200 but a bit over is fine

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>>60212872
>It's for a lot of gaming, and quite a bit of 3d modeling, animating, and film editing.
We keep repeating it, read the op
R5 1600 outperforms the 7500(k) in ANY of those by a big margin, and it doesn't need an aftermarket cooler
it also doesn't hit 95%+ usage in gaming
Ditch the CPU, mobo & cooler, get an R5 1600 with a $100 b350 motherboard, and upgrade something else in your build with the money saved (faster ram, ryzen loves it)

Also, there's no need to buy windows 10, cracking it is easy as fuck. And if it isn't, you can still run windows non-paid: they'll just disable desktop personalization and add a watermark to the screen until you get a license, which you can get at any time as long as you are connected to internet.

Is there big difference between 2400mhz and 3000mhz RAM?

>>60204936
>I don't understand why you can't just limit the FPS in your games settings to match your refresh rate
I don't know where this meme started. This does not help with screen tearing.
I don't know why anyone thinks limiting FPS somehow magically makes the frame draw at perfect sync with the monitor refresh.
If that were true, everyone would have been using that since monitors have been invented as a perfect solution.

>inb4 it works for me on game X
Just because it seems there's no tearing on your specific game at 144Hz doesn't mean it isn't tearing. Yes, higher refresh rates help hiding it, but many people are very sensible to tear and see it right away.
I've also had people tell me they never noticed screen tearing at sub-60 fps, which is absurd, but some people just don't notice and don't care.

>>60213061
In shit games like fallout (and nothing else): yes
Using an APU (AMD cpu + integrated GPU): yes
With Ryzen cpu: decent improvement
Otherwise, very slim improvement.

Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 @ 4.20GHz 25 °C
Kaby Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1069MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME Z270-A (LGA1151) 28 °C
Graphics
S27F350 (1920x1080@60Hz)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (EVGA) 34 °C
Storage
447GB BPX (Unknown)
Optical Drives
No optical disk drives detected
Audio
High Definition Audio Device

hows it, also i dont know how to make a speccy screenshot

>>60212872
didn't you already come yesterday with a slightly different build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/htcCcc
this is too similar to be someone else

>>60213122
>16GB single channel
>2133MHz
Should've gone for two sticks, and try to up your ram to 2400MHz at the very least, unless you got a cheap no-name ram or something.

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j3y4kT
Looking for input, i'm pretty bad at this.
Dunno whether 1600X is worth it over 1600.
Already have hard drives, monitor, keyboard and mouse.

RX 580 4GB or RX 570 4GB for 1080p 60fps gaming?

Is it worth buying a locked i7 or is it only wise to buy i7s when they are unlocked?

>>60213122
wtf is that ram
Bottlenecked by display, with those specs you should be running something more than 1080p60

>>60213161
>Dunno whether 1600X is worth it over 1600.
It's not, it can just clock slightly higher and requires an aftermarket cooler.
looks good. You're spending a lot on RAM though and i doubt it's really needed, but it's still fine cause it could get carried on to the next build.

>>60213172
Both do well in it, 580 will last longer though.

>>60213180
i7s are already pretty bad value, the locked versions are even worse. Wouldn't recommend buying a locked one, the main advantage i7 have is being 4c8t while being clocked very high, which is obviously something that locked versions are worse at considering the much lower base clock & the fact that it's locked.

2400mhz RAM good for ryzen 1600x cpu??

>>60213284
Thanks senpai
Think i could get away with 1x8GB RAM? £60 is £60 after all

>>60213062
There's a difference between in game fps limit (pacing out the frames) and using outside software to cap it (artificially throttling gpu).
I can see stutters and tears immediately when game has no limit and shoots over monitor refresh disabling gsync

>>60213330
yes, you could

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>>60213343
Cheers lad, will consider

Any issues with this build? I have limitless money and am keen to get into PC building.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JWrrCy

>>60213392
up to cooler to a $60 one, or $80 since you have limitless money. The one you put is pretty shit for the housefire cpu yo upicked.
Also replace the M.2 ssd by an NVME one, it's much faster

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got these specs from the a boomerz HP laptop (dated new 2013), it's running win10. should i tell the kuk that win10 iz poz and he should git a 64gb ssd and some poz linux?

>>60213454
why can't you talk normally

>>60213473
been on chanz too long m8. do u need clarity on something?

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>>60213491
>>60213454

>>60208353
At least you got confirmation of shipment. I don't know if the AM4 bracket for my Shadow Rock Slim will ever come in. ;_;

>>60213504
>>60213454
> http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=TOSHIBA+MQ01ABF050

holy fug. well did have the kuk order more ramz but i doubt that will solve the i/o poz problem. fffffuk why can't microshit make an os that's not complete shit. it uses hdd for load elementz of the UI, like even right click and know it's spinning around.. ffs use a fukin ramdisk.. rrrreeeee

>in b4 lol it's still slow

>>60213026
what graphics card should I pair with the ryzen processor?

As there seems to be a lot of conflicts between ryzen and GeForce

And yes I need to buy windows.

>>60213301
Pls respond

>>60213566
>lot of conflicts
It's only in rocket league, RoTR and Civ 6 so far, and it doesn't affect only ryzen cpus: also 6+ cores intel cpus, so it's nothing new

There is no (relevant) AMD equivalent of the GTX 1070 so you'd have to downgrade to a RX 480/580, or wait for vega announcement this month. But there's no problem of going with a GTX 1070.

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>Just put together build with GTX 1080
>Start up DOOM 4
>GPU is noisy as fuck, fan is 100% and won't shut up
>persists after exiting back to windows
>gets quiet for a second if I smack my palm against the side of my tower or gently shake the table

This isn't normal, right? The fact that it gets better temporarily when I move it suggests that there's a faulty connection somewhere. Gigabyte's RMA service is shit so I want to get a second opinion before I ship this thing back to Amazon

Any opinions on the Deepcool Captain 240ex? I see a sale going on for it for $89 and free shipping. I was already considering buying a bigger air cooler (from a hyper 212), but this deal is really tempting me to go water. I'm looking to take my 6600k to 4.6 or 4.7ghz.

>>60213642
>Considering getting a Gigabyte G1 1070

This is worrisome. Would it be a better call to get an Asus if their RMA service really is shit?

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W should be good for a 7700K and 1080 Ti right?

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Titanium-ATX12V-Supply-SSR-650TD/dp/B01HXYRJYK

>>60213445
How does this look?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YZXb6X

>>60213692
I dunno, homie. I've never RMA'd with Gigabyte before so I'm going off of hearsay.

>>60213751
yes, even 500w is

>>60213809
looks great, might wanna throw in another hard drive because never having to ever worry about how much shit you have on your hard drive feels like a blessing and it's pretty cheap, but otherwise it's still great.

How much should I overshoot my power needs when looking for a power cord? Should I try and be right at its wattage needs or overshoot by 50, 100, 150, etc...?

Do the Aorus cards have better cooling than the normal Gigabyte ones, or is it same shit different name (and $30 more)?

>>60213751
Even a 450W PSU could power a stock 7700K and 1080 Ti

decent 1080p60hz screens for a decent price?

>>60210878
>Buying anus boards

Is aiming for a motherboard with a displayport even necessary? I just like its compatibility but dont know if I should give up on that criteria in favor of just a normal hdmi port.

>>60214315
Couldn't you just get an adapter?

>>60214384
Huh, I thought it had to be like the default port to retain the abilities that Displayport has for like video quality.

>>60214121
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=192001080&T=1,2&H=60

Redpill me on led.
Does it add cost to things? Alot of gpus have it and if it made them cheaper it just makes me hate led even more.
Does it consume more energy? Led keyboard is cool
If you use a pc in the dark but I really dont get this whole led/tempered glass case meme going around, since when did pc building get taken over by rave fags.
For fucks sake, reviews take points off for not having rgb leds now.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xsW3XH

how much should i sell this for?

>>60214554
having led is good either for muh looks or visibility
no it doesn't drive price enough to make it relevant (unless RGB ram), no it doesn't use much power

>>60214554
Just children

It's the computer equivalent to ricing.

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>>60214554
Just about to get underway with my assembly. At the last second, after removing the plastic from my case and getting a good static discharge, I was wondering is it okay to be doing this on a plastic top/metal legged banquet table? I have a wooden desk with much less space, but if it's safer I will use that.

>>60213336
>outside software to cap it (artificially throttling gpu)
There are all sorts of problems and compatibility issues with that setup. One of them being the late input pooling.

>>60214625
your motherboard comes wrapped in some antistatic transparent whatever the fuck material it is, put it on the mobo box and put the mobo on said antistatic thing. Put the RAM and mount the cooler (in that order), then put in computer.

>>60213161
There is a small difference in overclockability between the 1600 and 1600X. I got the X because I still want to squeeze every bit of single-threaded performance from it and I was going to buy a cooler anyway, but in general the 1600 is the better bang for buck and it comes with a pretty nice cooler so you save a lot of money if 200 or 300 Mhz difference doesn't bother you.

Careful with the high speed memory. As of now Samsung B-Die memory is recommended if you want to reach 3200Mhz. Check this list to know which memory is which:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

AM4 mobos are a bit finicky at the moment. There's a BIOS update from AMD scheduled for May that they say will improve memory compatibility, but as of right now that's how it goes.
But yes, I recommend high speed RAM for Ryzen as it takes advantage of it, even for games. Take not that using only 1 DIMM will impact performance because you won't be using dual-channel.

>>60213445
>replace the M.2 ssd by an NVME one
Are you retarded? The 960 EVO is NVMe.

>>60213809
Why a 1200W power supply?

>>60214763
I read that some people don't use the wrap to put the board on because it can be conductive. So it doesn't matter if I use the banquet table or wooden desk as long as I use the box and plastic? I should still ground myself with the plugged in PSU, right?

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>>60214939
This is from another thread up right now. You should be fine.

How does this look? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4nQDyf

Obviously sans monitor, keyboard, and mouse. I already have the SSD listed and an HDD, and RAM, the 1060 is on sale this week, contemplating picking it up instead of a 1070/1080. Help for parts illiterate anon?

>>60214966
Confirmed what I suspected. Thanks. Wish me luck.

>>60214920
hey do'nt be mean

Is this a good monitor for an rx 580?

>>60215071
this one is better

>>60215071
Fuck
Here it is https://www.amazon.it/dp/B01BCF06LE/ref=twister_B01IBH5X78

I'm a fucking nigger and I ordered two used hdds

Ebay fucked me over and I canceled one within ten minutes of ordering and it was sent two hours with a Woops we missed the cancelation. Between the first being sent I ordered a second hoping for a cancelation on the first

Are used hard drives fairly often to arrive doa? Do I need an adapter to put my hdd in with no more 3.5 inch slots for drives?

>>60215111
>Are used hard drives fairly often to arrive doa?
no

>Do I need an adapter to put my hdd in with no more 3.5 inch slots for drives?
no, there won't be any place if all the slots are occupied. Hopefully you have plenty of free space in your case, but it will still be pretty messy and bad for noise.

>>60215181
I have open 5.25 in drives that I could use

Looking to do 1080p gaming, schoolwork/everyday use, mild workstation tasks.

Price range: trying to keep it close to 1,000 dollars or under, 1100 tops if its worth the extra.

Here is what I have so far (first build): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXjpnn

Any advice?

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My cousin smashed my mouse after i told him that his gf is a whore, i need a new mouse that is better than an old logitech wireless mouse. What should i buy? i saw a g502 at a good price but i don't know if it's worth it.

>>60215111
How poor are you to buy a harddrive used?
They are not expensive and then you can return it if it is DOA or if they die within the warranty which is 5 years where I live.
There is no need to do this to yourself.

I'm building a really fuken cheap PC for a 14 year old friend whose mother has almost no money. He comes from a shitty broken laptop, so anything will be an improvement for him.

I'm really lost on stuff that cheap, but I was thinking about a G4560 for 59€ and then the B250 pro4 or the pro-VD. The last one lacks for HDMI.
For the case, memory, HDD and power supply I think I'm done.

And for the GPU, a friend can give me his old GTX 460. If he does that I could go for an i5 7400/500/600. Is the iGPU from these i5 better than a GTX 460? If not then I'd go for the pentium and then a dedicated GPU, but I don't know what one, maybe the RX 460/70 or even the RX 550/60.

There is no exact total budget, but around 500€ on Spain.

>>60215265
depends on what games you play. for comp fps i usually recommend logitech g403/g pro or zowie mice (ec, fk, za).

logitech g502 is good but wayy too heavy for many people.

>>60215311
>How poor are you to buy a harddrive used?
>How poor are you to buy a CPU used?
>How poor are you to buy a GPU used?
>How poor are you to buy a motherboard used?

when are people going to realize that ryzen was a bad budget build?

>>60215009
Get this SSD instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c4jWGX/western-digital-blue-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g1b0b
It's cheaper and takes much less places (and no cable). Speeds are similar. The rest is great

>contemplating picking it up instead of a 1070/1080
1070 is for high framerate 1440p and gtx 1080 is even better than that. You don't need either of those, they are for high end builds.

>>60215239
i'd go for a bit faster memory, you don't need thermal paste unless you have a cooler you want to re-use and also are you sure you need so many fans? spending 60$ on just fans is retarded.

the rest is fine

>>60215317
do you need a monitor? g4560 + b250 + 8gb ram + case + psu is already 300+€

>>60215088
It does look good yes
Also, 10 more italian bux and you have freesync
https://www.amazon.it/Samsung-C24F396-Monitor-Curvo-Full/dp/B01DMDKZTC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493922341&sr=8-1&keywords=freesync+curved
and the stand is "con base a V" which i personally like more because of how it takes much less place

>>60215426
r3 & raven ridge soon my man

>>60215358
I mean, yes. I don't have a job, yet buying a computer right now not hurt my budget at all. I sort of get it with laptops but even then, I would throw a new SSD in it and max out the memory configuration.
But desktops are so cheap to begin with.

>>60215311
I'm cheap mostly, I could buy a regular hdd but muh shekels

>>60215479
Thanks, I was planning on overclocking the cpu. I figured with such matx case high airflow was a good idea. Still overkill on fans? Also I heard there was some fuck up with ryzen that reduced the memory speed to 2666 or something no matter how high it is so I thought "fuck it might as well just pay for 2666 then"

In the case that I don't want to upgrade in ~3 years, what is a better option - 570/480(blowers) 8GB or 580 4GB?

Is 2400 mhz RAM good for ryzen cpu?

Pls respond

>>60215594
it's somewhat decent but the higher the better
it doesn't need it anyway, it's just if you want the highest performance possible

>>60215462
I already have the SSD, and at a better price than what it's listed at now, thanks for the suggestion though. Yeah I figured I'd buy the 1060 on sale since I keep finding reasons to put off buying a 1070/80. Thanks

>>60215542
i'm not an expert on matx airflow but it seems to be a massive overkill.

ryzen has currently problems with SOME of memory sticks which is supposedly going to be fixed with future bios updates (AGESA, next one should drop soon so we'll see).

on the manufacturer's website (in your case: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-MORTAR.html#support-mem) you can check which memory modules were tested and 100% work with their advertised speeds.

>>60215561
8gb version of 470/570 is a waste.
for ~3 years you want a 8gb 580 or 480 if the first one is much more expensive.

>>60215594
ryzen benefits much more from faster memory than intel (~10% more performance in games). usually 3000mhz ram makes the build 10-20$ more expensive which imo is totally worth it

>>60215479
No, no periferics needed. I'll give him my old case, and maybe even an old HDD.

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/7968kT
I have this right now.

Also, after adding the 1050ti, it just sits at 550€~. Will the G4560 bottleneck it?

Are side window cases a meme?

>>60215779
ryzen CPU's are a meme so you tell me

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>MFW Someone suggests buying a NEW dog turd CPU like a fucking G4560 over getting a second hand 2500K
The 2500K is basically futureproof while that POS isn't.

>cpu with 2.5GHz per core has better single core AND multicore performance than cpu with 3.2GHz per core
what

>>60215778
i would get rx 470/570 (better perf/$) instead of a gtx 1050ti. you can downgrade ram to 8gb or hdd to 1tb (i doubt someone who's coming from a crappy laptop will fully use either of them).

g4560 won't bottleneck gtx1050ti or rx470/570.

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>>60215832
nice bait

>>60215855
what?

juruhu Ryze 81700X or intended ring with GTX 1080 144P 60hz?

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>>60216021
oh yes, absolutely

>>60207661
anyone?

pls respond

>>60215874
The RAM is because it's just 15€ more because of budget and 2400 MHz, and the same for the HDD. The cheapest 570 is a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 570 Mini 4GB GDDR5 which is 179€. I guess I could go for a 16GB RAM stick that has been refurbiushed and is 2133MHz for 20€ less and then a cheaper 1TB HDD then.

>>60216078
Uugh, just cehcked again. No, I'll keep those stuff, it's just 10€ more that RX 570 than the 1050ti. Maybe if I see a cheap SSD I'll try to get these cheap RAM/HDD and then get a 128GB SDD.

>>60216021
pleas help me juice make sugar that they are combatable

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Should I do it? Haven't seen a better deal yet.

>>60215942
>Post single core benchmarks
nice one bro

>>60216159
this pleas and ryze 1800x only urf will combatable for my comp

>>60216077
it's a good and balanced build, not sure what there is to give advice about. Only thing i can think of is changing the case to an mATX one since you have an mATX mobo, but that's not particularly wise to do considering how long cases last: you could and should use it for your next build.
I'm fairly sure you can also find 250GB ssds from kingston for cheaper than the one you posted
othrewise nothing to say

What Case should I get? I think it needs to be Full Tower, needs at least 298mm of GPU space, needs at least (and preferably) only one Optical Drive.

Here's my build for further information: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9FK4kT

Thanks.

>>60216180
Sorry about that, changed it to the Define C Mini. Should I just get a regular ATX case? And if so, what case should I get?

>>60216205
I'd help you but
>Cooler Master Hyper 212
This isn't 2011. Get something better like the Cryorig H7 or Arctic i32

>AsRock MOBO
please no

>3000 Memory
get 3200 memory

>Seagate HDD
those are notorious for dying

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>>60216205
I just got a 600Q, comes with 3 140mm fans
really like it
they make one with a glass side, since you clearly fell for the full rgb meme

>>60216236
I've had a Seagate HDD for 4 years with my current build, hasn't shown any signs of dying and going strong. I did switch to 3200, so thanks for that.

>>60216258
Thank you!

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How much force do you need to install RAM? I put a lot of force of the board and it won't go in. It's oriented correctly, but I don't want to do any damage.

It's G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x8GB on an Asrock AB350 Pro4 board.

How good is the Corsair SPEC-01 case for a budget build?

>>60216225
>Should I just get a regular ATX case?
There's no particular need to but, considering your mATX motherboard. Unless you plan to get an ATX mobo in the future.

>>60216308
push until the clasps close around the ends

>>60216308
you sure it's compatible ram?

>>60216308
film yourself doing it

>>60216236
>seagate hdds are notorious for dying
fuck off with that meme that hasn't been true for years

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>>60216333
>>60216343
>>60216347

Stand down. Crisis averted. I had to apply a ton of force to the non-clip side before the clip side to get it to go all the way.

I'll be around if anything else goes wrong.

>>60216324
I mean all that ATX mobos have over mATX mobos is extra slots for GPUs and SLI support as well as extra RAM slots. So all I really use is 2 RAM and one GPU slot (hence the mATX)

How well does ryzen 1700 do against ryzen 1600 when rendering stuff? Is it worth the 100$? Also what is the best motherboard for ryzen 1700 with the least amount of input lag that can use 16gb DDR4-3600?

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Can someone tell me what cables I need attached to this? When I hook all of them up it seems like overkill.

My build:

Ryzen 1700x
Radeon 480 8gb
MSI 350 tomahawk
Cryorig H7
Corsair 16gb RAM
Samsung SSD 850 evo
WD 1TB HDD

This party has stumped me because there is literally no help in the manual. And yes this is my first build. Yes I'm a faggot.

>>60216446
2 satas
1 cpu
2 vga (I guess the 480 uses 8+6?)

>>60216258
Despite searching, I can't seem to find a window edition. Could you provide a link? Much appreciated!

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>>60216417
>Is it worth the 100$?
if you're doing rendering for professional purposes, yes
otherwise, not really

>with the least amount of input lag
what

>that can use 16gb DDR4-3600?
RAM support is really random right now, regardless of mobo. Another agesa update before the end of the month though aimed to fix that.

>>60204697
>>60204697
>>60204697
move when necessary

>>60216488
What are the perif connections?

>>60207747
>Is an Intel Core i7 @ 3.6GHz decent for a CPU?
What does this mean?

>>60216545
wrong thread lol
>>60216455
>>60216455
>>60216455
>>60216455

>>60207747
that's not a cpu model
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Central_processing_unit

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>>60216524
yeah sorry; the Q is what's throwing you off, should've elaborated that
600C, same case, sound dampening on front, top, and one side, other side has glass panel

Trident 3000mhz or ripjaws V series 2400mhz with ryzen cpu???