/pcbg/ - PC Building General

taking into cooling and quietness, what is THE optimal fan setup for a mid tower case?

liquid cooling is better than air cooling
reviews are proof of this

>>60192943
>that FAT of a rad
>push AND pull
christ just get a single push fan on that.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/htcCcc

Looking to do a little bit of gaming, but quite a bit if 3d modeling, animation, as well as some film editing. Would this be good enough?

I only have about $1300 to work with. I already have a keyboard, mouse, and a monitor. Not sure what the rz or Hz but I'll deal with it for awhile in the meantime

MY PC IS SO LOUD I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

WHAT IS THIS LOW HUM SHIT?!!

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Please critique my build /pcbg/. I posted in the last thread but got no (you)s

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BZpj7h

My goal is to build an entry-level gaming PC for under $1000AUD. I've just barely managed to squeeze in the 1600 cpu. Will my video card be at least adequate?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4W2Fhq

I know my build is shit, but what monitor should i get with this build?, Its mostly for gaming, browsing.

Does 1440p monitors make consoles look worst when connected to hdmi?

>>60193145
i'd probably go with a 120gb SSD and then get the RX480 8gb

>>60193183
Is there a worthwhile difference between the 470/480 and the 570/580?

recommend me a good xeon

>>60193145
get the 1500 and upgrade gpu to 580

>>60193028
Adding onto this, do the benefits of liquid cooling outweigh the cons?

>>60193145
Looks good.

>>60193223
you'll have to check the specs, 480 8gb and 580 are the ones to get

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where do i find those old dell cases like pic related?

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What are some of the most beautiful cases around? No open windows, please.

So I currently have a GTX 970 4gb, and I have some people trying to convince me to upgrade to the GTX 1080, but it's like not it's a huge upgrade right? Would I be better off just getting another GTX 970 and using SLI or should I just go for the 1080?

>>60193319
why are you upgrading

>>60193319
What >>60193341 said, my 970 is still trucking most games I have thrown against it on high settings.

But also one nice card is always better than two lesser ones. So there is not much pressure on you to upgrade, but there can be issues with SLI when comparing it to a single card.

>>60193341
I'm not trying to, some coworkers are trying to convince me to, but it doesn't really seem worth the cash I would be throwing down.

Though I do need a new case since my got dented, so maybe they think I need new parts?

>>60193386
just kys

>>60193408
Your input is duly noted

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is 60 dollars too much for a case thats 20 years old?

>>60193450
no really kys

>>60193527
Well I'm in the army so ISIS might take care of that for you

>>60193133

Do you use 120mm fans? That's probably what it is.

>>60193504
Yes. I picked one of those up from a dumpster not too long ago. Can't fit more than a 92mm cooler on the CPU, it's extremely narrow. Also, the space for the I/O shield isn't standard.

>>60193591
why are 120's so loud?

Second time building a PC, 2700 USD Budget, thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CwNnqk

Replying to anon from last thread.
>>60193579
>most of Ryzens arms simply arent being used
Keep in mind that game benchmarks are done under circumstances that are generally vastly different than what most consumers will experience in their more realistic gaming scenarios.
This generally means that to really get the edge from the i5 7600k vs r5 1600 for example you'll have to absolutely solely run the game alone to even see significant advantage over it while also hitting close to 100% cpu usage to achieve that. The thing is that even now that games don't utilize the r5 1600 as well as intel's quad cores are being currently utilized but with the r5 1600 you will be able to get stable smooth gameplay at 65%-75% cpu usage while having essentially 2 cores and alot of threads free for other tasks which usually include browsers/media players/background programs related to hardware or software(games) the list goes on. There is literally no reason not to buy ryzen unless budget really isn't an issue for you and you generally upgrade your pc often.

>>60193685
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CwNnqk
You overspend on looks, considering you want to vr gaymin you could cheap out on looks and make a more budget oriented build that would allow a 1080ti in there. Also consider 1440p over 144hz if you aren't into competitive gaming where such a slight fps difference would even matter, i guarantee you your gayming experience will be more significant in 1440p60fps than 1080p120fps.

>>60193755
Thanks for the advice, gonna try to make my build less looks-based. Now that I look at it, I did go overboard.

>>60193319
gtx 1080 is for high end vr or high res / high framerate
if you currently have a gtx 970 there is very little chance you need it. A GTX 1070 would be a big upgrade that does make sense.

>>60193685
you could save like 40 bucks on that RAM by not buying gay RGB
also that case is so fucking retarded looking for that price point
like >>60193755 said just cheap out on the looks and go for value

>>60193884
Yeah, thanks for the advice. Like I said, will definitely be trying to do that.

>>60193069
>3d modeling
>animation
>video editing
Remove the i5 & the cooler, then put an R5 1600 instead, the 1600 dominates any i5 at productivity, especially video editing. 6 cores 12 threads > 4c4t.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFGXBP

Here. Performs better at the thing you do and ends up cheaper so i decide to add another 1 TB 7200rpm hard drive. Trust me: when doing video editing, having the most hard drives possible feels like pure bliss. You can use it for preview cache, exported video storage or media (the ones you use in your videos) storage. The 265GB aren't gonna be enough to store all of that in the long run, so having a spare drive for it is nice.

Also, GTX 1070 is not for "little gaming". It's for 144hz or 1440p120hz builds, but certainly not just "a little gaming". Would be wiser to downgrade to GTX 1060 / RX 580. Go GTX 1060 if your modeling software & animation benefit decently from CUDA, otherwise both are pretty much the same.

just built a computer
first time in 10 years
accidentally had the psu upside down, computer was on for maybe like 3 hours
smelled like burnt plastic lol
but everything looks fine. I turned it back the right way, smell is gone, everything seems fine
any reason to be concerned about RMAing the psu? I'm not well versed in this stuff

>>60194258
aye don't worry m8 everthangs fin

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>>60194258
I had my PSU upside down for 2 years until someone told me it was the wrong direction, and i still use it to this day.
There is 0 reason an upside down PSU would damage it or anything: every single computer part can be in any direction at any angle and it will be perfectly fine. That's why in some mITX cases you sometimes see mobos horizontally and at times, PSU sucking air from the top. It doesn't change anything except where does it get the air from.

>>60194297
well the significance is that the fan was up against the top of the case, so there was no air flow

thanks for the quick reply

>>60194329
no wonder there was a smell of burned plastic then.

>>60194362
one more spoonfeed-y question and I'll fuck off
any benefit to getting 3 120mm fans for the bottom of my case to replace the 2 140mm fans I have there now?
don't know shit about overclocking, just don't want to have overheating issues later on

>>60192943
>pulling air from the back
why?

>>60194440
no
larger fans cover more area and are generally quieter

3 120mm fans might move more air than 2 140mm fans, but not enough to justify switching them out

What motherboard and ram should I get for ryzen r5 1600x and gtx 1070? Is it even a good idea to get 1070 instead of 580 if I go with amd?

>>60193241
Liquid cooling
>best cooling performance
>AIO units easy to install
>high overclocking headroom
>more expensive
>radiator mounting only requirement, most decent cases support at least 240mm radiators
>high end units with high radiator mass can be extremely quiet

Air cooling
>more failproof
>cheaper
>less cooling performance
>clearance issues with certain cases, motherboards and RAM (even GPUs in some case)
>basic heatsinks mostly supplied with processor
>heatsinks much cheaper than AIO liquidcoolers.
>it just werks

>>60193028
A lot of reduced noise comes down to sound deadening, like in a car cabin.

Fans that are within "line of sight" of you are going to be noisier. ie the front fan, and side fans.

A lot of cases now days have a panel over the front and a gap to deaden the sound. But in many cases it's just for looks, and doesn't fully work.
And as for cooling, don't be afraid to use your rear and/or top fans for intake instead of exhaust. Air pressure and air currents are far stronger than the mild convection. And convection often heats your motherboard VRMs too much from the hot air rising off the GPU, otherwise. This is a good deal why I prefer those vertical oriented cases like the Jonsbo VR2 or upside-down ones like the Silverstone TJ08.

>>60194968
So what sort of liquid cooler could I opt for a build that includes the i7 6700k and the GTX 1070 in a Fractal R4 case?

>>60193689
>Keep in mind that game benchmarks are done under circumstances that are generally vastly different than what most consumers will experience in their more realistic gaming scenarios.
This is a great point that I wish more could understand.

But the reality is that games are almost all already programmed to use more than 4 cores/threads:
http://imgur.com/a/s7Img
They're programmed to scale. But if a 4c/8t has the power it needs, then yeah there'll just be CPU usage left over.

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Reposting my beginner PC build from last thread. Trying to make a simple gaming computer for around $800 USD. The idea for this build is to be able to run games at 1080p and 60fps reliable at a flexible amount of settings.

>>60195036
idk read reviews. I can't/won't advise on AIOs.

>>60195083
>$800 for 4 threads
mm no.
Why didn't you look at some of the other builds from the last thread that people said were good? That would give you an idea. There were many in the $750-$900 range.

Gonna be pulling the trigger in 24 hrs, need some final help.How does the GPU look? I have heard the Define S is good but should I look at another case instead? This will be my first build so I need some advice.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTt6VY

>>60193504
Unless you want to have a retro/sleeper build, it's too much. For that price you can get a Corsair 200R

>>60195174
Solid build. Though just personally, I'd go a mATX board and smaller case.

>>60195083
>7500
>instead of 1500x
for why?

>>60195036
Just read some reviews from tech sites and pick one that fits your case and budget. Corsair, NZXT and Cooler Master are reputable vendors, deepcool has cheaper units but some negative history with units being DOA or bad customer service

I have a R5 1600x and it goes to max 72C in prime95 with my corsair H60 when im running the chip at 1.4V and I have only one noctua meme fan on it

>>60195083
>intel CPU + nvidia GPU
No. Here is a much better $800 beginner build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTNGM8

>>60195083
Swap the i5 for a 1600, and get a 480/580 instead of a 1060, but this doesn't matter much.

>>60195223
What "smaller case" would you recommend instead?

>>60195174
I saw that this motherboard isn't recommended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRG_LjUl8Q

>>60195295
Corsair Carbide 88r, or that smaller Fractal case I forget the name. Idk just search mATX cases.

>>60195293
Ignore this, I didn't see the $800 price limit.

>>60195316
How is that "not recommended"? He's just sperging that it's not 6 real phases for $80, but otherwise says it seems fine.

>>60195320
You mean the Define C Mini?

>>60195347
He's not sperging, he's telling you that ASRock tries to sell a 3 phase design as 6 phase and those phases aren't even doubled.
The ASRock B350 mobos all have worse VRM than the competition, it's only a viable choice if it's cheaper than the competition.

ARE THERE ANY B350 BOARDS THAT WORK YET M8'S?!

>>60193313
Electronics recycling depots?

>>60195320
>>60195553
Edited my build list a little bit, how does this look in that case?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YKbvFd

>>60195599
work?
no, they all explode when installing the cpu

Do you guys think that an r5 1600 overclocked at 3.8ghz sapphire nitro+ rx 580 overclocked 8gb ddr4 3200mhz 2x8gb ram could handle VR with htc vive? Sapphire claims that their gpu can but i'm not really sure.

>>60195670
2x8gb*

>>60195573
They aren't "doubled", but they are still more mosfets and chokes that will stay cooler.
With many more phases, yeah the power delivery would be more stable and allow for lower voltage.
Cooling is the bigger issue for most people, though. You don't want your VRMs to pop.

>>60195573
>>60195316
>>60195347
I don't see how this is an issue. It's a low end motherboard. My 1600x takes around 10-11W of power for each core in prime95 when at around 4.0GHz and 1,4V so a quad core chip should need to draw only around 50W max from that VRM.

>>60195658

Read some reviews, like 40% of them fail to even work

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>>60195717
>like 40% of them fail to even work

>>60195740

I know, son. I found it hard to believe too. I was set on an ASUS Prime B350-Plus, and now I'm not sure what to do, but look at the reviews for yourself.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=b350&N=-1&isNodeId=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06X9LN311

Fucking sucks, my man.

>>60195774
Out of 14 reviews it's two guys complaining, meh
Different from your claim of 40% failing to even work
you're too paranoid anon

p400s tempered glass vs s340 elite?

>>60195825

Did you know that 127% of all Intel motherboards made have zero RMAs due to operational failure (user error is not counted).

>trufax.

>>60195740

They all work. Ive got the biostar b350gt3 can figure out how to get overclocked memory to post but im closing in on my cpu overclock before I lock it in.

My 3200 memory running like 1064 or something right now. I did not buy the right kind of memory to make this easy and will have to figure out how to overclock this as high as I can the hard slow way. The X whatever ram profile doesnt post.

I will say that replacing the thermal paste on the stock cooler dropped my temps at least 5 degrees if not more. Maxing out the cpu at 3.7 1.25 has me stable at 70C. r5 1600

>>60195670
yes, both will handle VR ewell

>>60195856
>can't figure out how

Also the bios says the memory is running 2133 but cpuz says 1064 in windows. Wtf.

>>60195874
that's normal
your ram is running at normal speed, bios indicates 1066 (half)
DOUBLE data rate

>>60195670
>>60195865
The RX580 will do well in VR, unless the graphics are really high end yet it doesn't support asynchronous reprojection. I'm not sure if any games still have that problem or not.

>>60195825

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132965&cm_re=b350-_-13-132-965-_-Product

>more than 1 in 4 mobos didn't even work

>>60195848

I'm buying a B350 and Ryzen 1600 so no, I want this shit to work.

>>60195874
>>60195899

You mean because is dual channel? Ah ok. Also 2133 probably isnt exact cant remember the last two digits without going back in. Trying to do a long stability test on the cpu now.

>>60195910
>I'm buying a B350 and Ryzen 1600 so no, I want this shit to work.

I recommend finding memory that is working for other people already. I think the amd guy said something about samsung b chips in that youtube video where he talks about overclocking.

please can i habe decent g4560 build? wat motherboard?

>>60195918
>You mean because is dual channel?
no
The actual speed of the RAM is half what is shown in the bios, and CPU-Z shows that number properly. But the effective speed is double that, hence why it's called Double Data Rate (DDR)

>>60195918
It's not because dual channel it's because it is DDR

>>60195937
yes, samsung b die rams are the RAM that reach the highest clock on am4 motherboards

>>60195969
>>60195978

Ah thanks.

>>60195937

As far as I can tell the Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz 2x8gb is working fine in terms of not being clocked down. But there seems to be a big problem with the actual function and BIOS in these mobo's. Fucking sucks because I was set on the Asus Prime, but now I don't know what to do. There seems to have been a number of BIOS updates which have been released which might be helping some people, but still the numbers having issues getting the Ryzen mobo's to work in the most basic way is worrying. Here's a video discussing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMCrK_Mjtg8

>>60195688
I seriously doubt that VRM will run cooler than any other, after all the mosfets used are NIKO PowerPAKs which aren't really good.
The fact that ASRock uses the same components on their X370 Killer and Gaming K4 boards is just stupid and i bet those boards a 4 phase with the same shady scheme.

>>60195715
It isn't a real issue, it's just that you can have better for the same money and ASSRrock is being an asshole for this.

>>60196019

AMD has had problems with intel doing fucked up shit in the past. Like bribing oems and other things. They purposly kept alot of shit in the dark in the lead up to this. In fact at the end they just went right to the board makers to give them the info and didnt give them tons of time to do it.

So yes there is a bunch of stuff getting updated in the mobos. Also this is a new architecture so everything in new from the ground up. There is going to be a great deal of shit being ironed out for a couple months more at least.

And they didnt forget about all this shit but AMD has chosen to do this without giving alot of info out in advance. The experience wont be smooth for a couple months at least and if you want it as easy as possible find parts people are having success with now. And like we were talking about look for samsung b die memory.

if money is an issue for more ram.

Would you rather go 2x4gb of 2400mhz or 1x8gb of 2400mhz ram?

>>60196107

Can you go one stick in dual channel systems? If so 1x8 but im not sure you can.

>>60196135
you can but it will be single channel.

>>60196107
>>60196135

The general rule is max per stick because you can then add more of those sticks later. Im looking through the books for the 2 b350 mobos I have and they explain which slots to put the memory in. I dont think you can do one stick there doesnt seem to be an option. And Im pretty sure dual channel memory needs to be in pairs and quad channel like an x99 needs to be in 4s.

Also just save up buy the cheapest samsung b die 2x8 kit that people are having a good time with. Make sure they are doing a ryzen cpu because memory that is rated for intel isnt guaranteed to jump well to amd. Especially right now with Ryzen being new.

>>60196186

I guess 1x8 than. Though with how sensitive Ryzen is to the memory I would save a bit more cash.

>When your oc crashes 2 hours into a prime 95 test

So close

>>60196135
It will be significantly slower unless it's dual rank. Still quite a bit slower with dual rank.
Dual channel is pretty much a free performance gain.

What kinds of improvement would I see from going to 16 gb ram from 8?

My current build is i7-4770k, toshiba sad, 1060 GB.

>>60196409
if you mean 8 to 16 GB, well you can run more shit at the same time
and maybe do small ramdisks for small games
that's about it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T6zyBP
cant go rizon because linux doesn't support it too well

>>60193037
We all know they are more effective. The question is, are they cost effective? If an air cooler can perform within a few degrees and save money then that is the better choice

>>60196524

Linux supports ryzen better than windows does.

Would you guys recommend getting the 1500X or investing a little extra and getting the 1600?

Pretty much just for gaming.

>>60196570
my distro has issue with regulating wattage, it constantly pull the maximum

>>60196578
1600 for future proofing

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Current build. Looking to upgrade graphics as the 290s are about to blow up at 4k playing GTAV, Arma 3 etc. Is the 1080ti overkill or should I just go ham?

>>60193037

But because parts have put so much work into heat efficiency for Mobil the question is does your chip give you any benefit for that extra cooling? The answer is probably not. A good air cooler can get you max overclock on most chips.

I have full hardline in my main system and Ill admit I only did it to do it.

>>60196606
dude why this 6700k isn't overclocked.
also 1080ti is perfectly ok for 4k.

>>60196578
You could just get the 1500X now and get a 3600 or 4600 in 2 or 3 years.
1500X is overkill as it is for most people, even if the 1600 doesn't cost much more.

Where are all the mini itx AM4 mobos?

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So I flew home recently and put my PC in my checked baggage and this happened. Is this repairable or should I go ahead and get a new case?

>>60196721
only one announced, a biostar one
out of stock
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138452

>>60196721

Biostar has some but overclocking is being a pain. Using a b350gt3 right now.

>>60196783
>Image size
I'm so sorry

>>60193319
>SLi
>with a card that has 3.5GB of VRAM
Terrible idea.

>>60196786
that's mATX, not mITX

>>60196800

Ah sorry.

>>60196810
never post in this general again!

>>60193319

You want off that 970. Or did they patch the 3.5 somehow? I think it still had weird freezes when you used more then the 3.5 gigs of memory.

so when RX 10 Vega releases, prices might dip a little?

>>60196606
Maybe enable the Crossfire, see if that helps at all?

>>60196849
Depends whether or not it's really 30%+ faster than a 1080Ti.
That's speculation.

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>can't have silent watercooling, SLI, an optical drive, and the smaller optional hard drive caddy all at the same time

i made a poor choice with this case. i'm actually going to look into building a smaller hard drive caddy myself so i can fit the second 1080. it will probably involve knex.

>>60196956
all the things you listed are a literal meme

>>60196980
it will be the dankest meme machine when it's complete

and RAID aint no meme fuccboi

>>60196852
It is enabled speccy is retarded.

>>60196956
Get 2.5" HDDs and put them in one of the top bays?

>>60197016
Ahh, I c

Wait to see what the Vega performance is. Then pick between it and the 1080Ti.

>>60196956
>AIO

>>60197050
i could probably just flip the caddy on its side

worst case i'll have to top mount the radiator.

Will 600W be enough for a 4690k, 1080 and 3 SSDs?

> 1070 are worth considering if you already have a Gsync monitor.
Could someone pls explain this?

>>60197342
NVIDIA is a meme

>>60197363
X is a meme is a meme.

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>>60196226
>>60196135
I mean it's for now. I thought about going for 1x8gb anyways because it makes an upgrade possible.

R8 this build

>starcraft 2, wow blizzshit, civ5
>programming
>700 euro budget

>>60197363
So is AMD.

what in the lords fuck is up with all these cases and bottom placed PSUs

What's the best mobo to go with a 1080ti?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mYycr7

>>60197594
yes
any is good.

>>60196783

>worst girls

I think you should throw the lot off a bridge followed by yourself.

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>>60197707

>>60197429
faster ram, dunno about the psu. the rest is fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gpZLxY

So will the I5 7500 be much better than g4560
I need it mostly for playing games 50-60 fps mid to high settings 1080p preferably

>>60197760
drill four holes into the PSU cover and replace your GPU heatsink with a CPU heatsink

>>60197814
I might consider it if i ever have a problem with overheating, but at the moment I would rather not fuck up rig.

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>>60197799

The 7500 is flatout a better cpu - it is also more expensive.

Also: why on earth do you need 32gb of ram?

>>60197930

Or just get something like pic related and do a cooler swap. These sorts of aftermarket coolers are often rated into the 300w range with some decent fans.

>>60193145
yeah i agree with others

480/580 8gb

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I was just adding more RAM and another harddrive to my newish rig when I noticed this port all the way to the right on my very old graphics card. Is this a mini hdmi port or what? I got the card from a freind was going to replace it soon, but if this is hdmi or displayport i might hold off.

>>60197799
>32GB of RAM
for what purpose

>>60197962
Oh that was a mistake just one pair of 2x8 gb

>>60197342
What is there to explain? It's self explanatory.
Gsync costs a lot more than Freesync. You have to factor in that extra cost which tends to make a 1070 not worth it.
You can get an RX580+1440p freesync IPS monitor for the price of a 1070+garbage 1080p gsync TN monitor.
You'll replace your GPU more often than the monitor, usually.

>>60198005

Looks like displayport to me.

guys got any advice for a 850w-1050w psu, gold rated or above for around 150? i know seasonic and evga are good, what about like the rx series from corsair or coolermaster masterpower psu? any other options?

>>60198037
Thanks. That makes me happy

atx vs matx

which one and why

>>60198037
hdmi, not dp

>>60198106

I disagree - the connection looks like it has an angled part which is displayport and not HDMI.

>>60198106
It's not HDMI.

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I'm building my first computer tomorrow.
Here is my PC
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YgLDyf

Is there any tips I should now before starting? I'm very anxious.

>>60196830

There isn't any way to patch it - it's a hardware issue.

>>60198195

Since i'm in a good mood i'll let you in on a secret that catches every new builder out. The two most important parts of your build are your monitor and psu - they dictate everything else.

I was thinking of building a HTPC, but including a blue ray player I couldn't get the price under $250-300. Is there any point to building your own for such a cheap PC or should I just jailbreak a PS4?

>>60198195
It does look good for a budget build
The cable management inside that case will be pretty bad though

>>60198195
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YgLDyf
Maybe get a motherboard with built in wifi if it's not too expensive? Using an expansion slot for wifi is pretty sucky.
And just get the G4560 unless you see the G4600/G4620/i3-7100 on sale for a good deal.
I know Fry's had the i3-7100 for like $88.

>I'm very anxious.
You can sit on my lap and I can hold you while you do it.

>>60198443
I have already ordered the parts, sadly. I got the 4600 for a good deal however.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGccr7

I want to splurge on a PC, does this look acceptable? I don't really know what I'm looking for in RAM and Motherboards.

So judging from a couple posts last thread, 80+ Bronze/Silver/Gold doesn't mean much in the way of PSUs?
Picking one out now, are there any brands I should steer away from or aim for? Right now I plan to go for a 1600 and RX570 4GB. What wattage is enough?

>>60198490
>buys the best gaming cpu with a $84 cooler and gtx 1080ti
>"does this look acceptable?"
yes, anon. The RAM you posted is great and so is the mobo.
Since you're going very high end, adding another 140mm at the front (there's already one but room for one more) isn't out of question, and it's only like $13 for a better airflow.

Why Samsung Pro? Do you actually need the things it offers compared to samsung evo ssds? It's quite a lot more expensive. Cost $80 less for same size

>>60198679
overkill psu, get a bigger ssd for the same price unless you're into samsung memes

Anyone with a Define Nano S? i was taking a look at it because i want a small (well "small") quiet case and i'm wonder it it's okay to use open cooler GPUs since it sits so close to the PSU

Ive got a weird cmos failed message when booting. This is on 2 b350 boards one I overclocked and one I did not touch. Both boot into windows 10 after displaying the message anyways.

wtf is this message? I reset the motherboard and loaded default on the one I overclocked and it wont go away. I thought it was from updating the motherboard after installing windows 10 but I did it in the reverse order on one of them.

Maybe something in the hand off between uefi and windows 10?

Is there a web server build I can make (that isnt ARM) for under $100?

>>60197429

Wait for Vega

>>60199449
vega isn't for low end

>>60199478

I'm sure there'll be a lower-end version. AMD usually release cards with lower end versions.

>>60199449
>wait til 2018

>>60199546

AMD have confirmed it'll be out by the end of June latest, so hopefully shouldn't be much longer.

How do i keep a 580 at a reasonable 45-50C while not enabling jet engine mode?

>>60196524
>>60196583
>cant go rizon because linux doesn't support it too well
>my distro has issue with regulating wattage, it constantly pull the maximum
LMAO. Upgrade to kernel 4.10 you retard.
I'm running it an my 1600X heatsink literally feels cooler than ambient to the touch.
It's maybe 1C over ambient, if that.

>>60199634
Undervolt and/or use Radeon Chill.

>>60199529
The cut-down card will probably be around $400 and probably won't come out for another month after the big one.

How much does a decent 1440p Freesync monitor cost?

>>60198005
that's mini-HDMI with lots of dirt in it, airdust that motherfucker

i'm looking to upgrade my cpu in my rig
i'm set on using on r5 1600
do you have any particular motherboard to recommend ? bonus point if it has 6 sata port

>>60193910
You can squeeze out like $30 more by swapping the EVO with a kingston hyperx

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>still chugging along with an i5 2500
>want to upgrade
>motherboard has an obsolete CPU socket, so I'll need a new mobo too
>switching the mobo will make W10-chan throw a licensing hissy fit since the free upgrade from 2015 apparently isn't transferable to other machines, so I may need to actually buy a license for it too

Do I have any chance of finding a better processor for socket 1155 LGA, or is it time to drop even more money and upgrade to 1151? Or is there a newer socket around the corner that I should just wait for?

>>60198005
you have dual link dvi it's better than hdmi

>>60199977
>Do I have any chance of finding a better processor for socket 1155 LGA,
Yes, but that'd be retarded. You're gonna spend a lot on money on an obsolete already CPU.

> or is it time to drop even more money and upgrade to 1151?
Yes, or AM4

>Or is there a newer socket around the corner that I should just wait for?
Well, since Intel likes to shit out sockets every few seconds, maybe. Cannonlake faces some troubles and might not be released on LGA 1151, anyway after cannon lake (uncertain)r & refresh lake (coffee lake) there is nothing

>so I may need to actually buy a license for it too
KMSPico works well man.

>>60199772
doesn't radeon chill just gimps the card?

>>60200126
That's what it does indeed, but you can specifically set the minimum FPS and it'll fluctuate between that & the maximum FPS depending on APM

Is the "MSI X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard" a good choice for a higher end setup with a Ryzen 5 1600X and an Nvidia 1080? The 1080 might be swapped out seeing how the Vega goes.

>>60200144
Radeon Chill tries to time frame draws with inputs, so you get faster response to draw the next frame after using the mouse or keyboard, reducing input latency.

There is no drawback to using it except for slightly lower average framerates. But everyone should understand that average FPS is meaningless.

>>60200157
No. The expensive MSI boards are garbage. Component quality doesn't increase for anything higher than the Tomahawk.
Go read motherboard reviews.

>>60200157
There is 0 reason to go x370 if you don't need SLI, Xfire, or the additionnal sata / pcie

>>60200170
>There is no drawback to using it
On recent cards maybe, but on an R9 280 you can't set the minimum or maximum, so i end up with shit minimums in league of legends and both the input lag & frame pacing are noticeable bad

Had a simple question, didnt want to start a thread over it.

Pc first build uses an LED lighting strip but the adhesive is shit, it keeps coming down. What do you guys use as a replacement?

>>60200202
So I was thinking that I would want SLI capabilities in the future, is it worth it? Or is SLI not actually as great as it reads?

>>60200228
3M double sided tape. It will outlast humanity.

Best budget mobo for ryzen 1600 + rx 580?

>>60200116
Thanks anon. I guess it's time for a big overhaul.

Based also on >>60193910, I'll look into AM4 as well since I am doing video editing.

>>60200269
I'd say ASRock Pro4 or Gigabyte Gaming 3 if you care about sound.

>>60195277
Even better for a $9 difference
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTNGM8

>>60194258
you probably left the plastic on the motherboard heatsinks, the graphics card, or the psu.

>>60200240
SLI and Crossfire are never recommended: shit frametimes, scaling is most a few 10% at best, often 0% and sometimes negative
crossfire is better than SLI both in performance in frametimes but it still has shit support in games so both are very meh at best.

It's a waste of money

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Muh parts just got here, R5 1600/GTX 1070. """""""""""""assembling""""""""""""" it tomorrow.

Get hype.

>>60200628
your message does not fit your picture
be cuter next time

>>60200372
but you send the same build

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>>60200638
am i kawaii uguu~ desu ka

>>60200651
Fugg. Swap the 1500x for a 1600 and the EVO for a kingston hyperX

is 1.41v alright for RAM voltage? I got 3200mhz to post on muh ryzen build, or should i just stay to CL14 2933 with 1.35v?

>>60200651
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ktd6VY

>>60195013
>A lot of cases now days have a panel over the front and a gap to deaden the sound. But in many cases it's just for looks, and doesn't fully work.
>And as for cooling, don't be afraid to use your rear and/or top fans for intake instead of exhaust.

I bought a P400 Eclipse case and the front panel is completely covered except for two little vents on the top/bottom. I noticed they included a filter for the vent on the top, does this mean they want me to use the top fans as an intake rather than exhaust?
I live in sandy eggo, commiefornia and my room gets hot as tits.

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>>60197718
While I would love to get into a waifu wars over which girl is best girl, this isn't really the place or time. I mean everyone knows Rem is best anyways so it's not even worth talking about to begin with

>>60200743
what ram? i have team ddr43000 running at 2933cl16 1.38v

>>60200848
the p400 has filters for both top and bottom. i use 2x120 as intakes there.

>>60200848
Imgur link because fuck you m00t for trolling applel users.

http://imgur.com/a/601fk

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>>60200894
this one https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c16d-16gvkb although I got the one that isn't b-die

>>60196783
>that feel when you know the baggage handler just fucking chucked your computer

>>60200986
Is Ripjaws V the sammy crap? I admit I bought them on an impulse just assuming G.Skill was Samsung, but now I think it might only be Tridentz and Flare

>>60201077
Yah it fucking blows, did the best I could and crammed the suitcase full of bubblewrap and shit but it didn't help

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Thoughts?

Any solid guides on building a NAS server? Also, what's the recommended OS for these? FreeNAS? How difficult will it be for someone with no Linux background to operate it?

I'm looking into buying a new monitor. Is it worth it to limit my choices to freesync ones? I'm not convinced I should.

>>60201250
Drop trip

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When and where is the best time to buy a new GPU? Looking at getting the a 1080.

Also why such a large difference in 1080's price. Even EVGA has different models varying in price and I can't tell a difference.

>>60201271
>When and where is the best time to buy a new GPU?
When yours is limiting you

>>60201158
You don't get your yacht if you didn't sell your AMD stock before it dropped under 11.50

i5-4690 to i7-4790k - worth the price to upgrade?

>>60201268
Was a quick reply box mess up.
Is freesync a big deal? There's not a lot choice when looking for one with IPS.

>>60201344
you have an i5 4690 and wanna go to 4790k?
No, not worth at all.

>>60201344
If you can sell the 4690 for enough that the 4790k is only like $150-$200 difference, then yeah definitely worth

>>60192943
Okay so I finished building my little piece of shit but my RAM speed is at some low ass number. I know the board supports my actual RAM speed, do I need to go into the UEFI and change it or do I need to update it first? I have an ASRock AB350M Pro 4 and my RAM is Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3200.

>>60201408
Yes, update your BIOS first. Do not restart during update.
The internet automatic update thing worked fine for me.

>>60201408
yes you need to go into the bios
yes, updating to latest bios should yield better results
do not touch at any setting before updating, to avoid the thing crashing on you.

>>60201125
I think they make a sport of seeing how far/hard they can throw your shit. I hope you didn't have your GPU in there, no chance of the PCI-E slot surviving that maiming.

>>60196783
Does it even boot?
Jesus that had to have thrown that hard. That's awful.

What is the smallest footprint mATX case that is decent at air cooling and build quality? I need a very small form factor build, but it also must have room for:
1. a 1080ti
2. 2 pci x1 devices
3. Only needs room for 1 2.5 SSD

>>60201443
No, I took the GPU, HHD and SSD out cause those worried me the most
>>60201471
Yah it still runs fun, I checked all the hardware and everything seems fine, only damage seems to be the case being bent a little. The bubble wrap and protective layer of clothes seemed to do the job.

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>>60201484
Oh! It will also need to fit an Noctua D14

>>60201484
>A two-slot card plus two other pci devices
Yeah no, you need to go full ATX for something like that.

So, I have to pretty much nuke my current windows and start from scratch if I go intel>amd, right? Or is just installing the mobo drivers enough?

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>>60201525
To my knowledge there are mATX boards that support an x16 card and 2 extra slots. Ryzen has 16 + 4 lanes and a lot of boards have extra chipsets with x1 slots. The attached picture has an x16 + x4 + x1. Can all these lanes not be utilized by Ryzen without having their throughput cut?

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Did i fuck up
Seems pretty useful

>>60200628
what ram did you get though

>>60200628
>Get hype.
Too late.

>>60201630
It's 16+8 for X370, 16+6 for B350, IIRC.

By "all" if you mean 2 x16, 2 x1, and 6 SATA, then no, obviously.
Using the other x16 will generally cut it to x8 on the main one and x8 or x4 on the other one. And using the 2 m.2 slots will generally cut off 2 SATA.

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ok I revised my build. by the time I get the money vega will be out and I will get a vega instead of 580. Someone said something about samsung b ram modules being similar to these g.skill ones but until I find conclusive testing I'm not switching out.

>>60193037
There's no real point in better cooling for the average consumer at this point in time.
Ryzen taps out for unrelated reasons when overclocking at pretty mild power draw so it doesn't need anything more than a moderate air cooler to hit it's max OC.
And Intel's TIM is so shitty it will be the limiting factor no matter what cooler you use so unless you're game to do it yourself, you money would be better spent on a delid service.

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Thoughts or suggestions?

I'm trying to keep a black and orange look.

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>>60201780
Are you sure? This is on the gigabyte page for the board in question. The last full length slot only runs at x4 and the specs don't say anything about the x16 getting cut to x8.

I ordered ripjaws V 3000mhz for my ryzen and rx 480 on fatality ab350 momboard. Will it run good?

>>60201860
I did not say for every board, did I?

>>60201853
>black and orange

Ryzen

>>60201853
why not go with 7700k it's nearly the same price. you can get it at microcenter for 300

>>60201895
AMD left a bad taste in my mouth, have they improved? Cooling will be an issue where I live.

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>>60201853
>1070
>1080p 60hz

>>60201902
The 7700K is not nearly the same price and then he'd have to spend mroe on the motherboard too.
You give terrible advice.

>>60201892
Alright. So it will work! Cool! Thank you.

>>60201902
Mobo bios would need an older CPU to update before I could use KabyLake CPUS.

>>60201917
>Cooling will be an issue where I live.
then don't go intel, they're the worst one now

>>60201902
Microcenter 7700K is pick up only and if he's close to one of those stores the 6700K is $280.

>bought a Seasonic fanless
>put it in a Define Mini C

How badly did I fuck up, /pcbg/?

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>>60201917
I was just saying it because Ryzen is orange and black.

>>60201853
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DXCyBP

>>60201917
AMD perf/watt is actually slightly better than intel's now and since the CPUs are underutilized the 8core ryzens will produce less heat than quad core intels while gaming.
Also they have a soldered heat spreader so they're much easier to cool, the stock ryzen spire will even allow mild overclocking.

>>60201853
I think Be Quiet! has a black/orange case.

>>60202000
impressive, manages to do much better performance for cheaper

20 dollar cpu difference and 30-40 for a z270 for a new chipset. yea how retarded to want to spend 60 or so for a better OC cpu

>>60202040
i don't get what you are trying to say

>>60202003
I don't want a case that's over the top, plain black is fine, I just like to have a warm orange glow coming from the components.

>>60201717
16GB Ripjaws V 3200

wish me luck

>>60202000
You do not need a cooler that beefy for ryzen.

>>60201917
Ryzen are so power efficient that you take take off the stock fan and just use the stock heatsink to passively cool them, dude.

>>60202046
I don't get how my suggestion to spend slightly more on a new chipset is "retarded"

>>60202022
Not really cheaper, other list includes two extra fans, a monitor and Keyboard and mouse.

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>>60202064
mfw unmount cooler and changing thermal paste while running gta v because fuck turning off the computer

>>60202076
the money saved can most likely be spent more wisely, like an SSD where you can actually notice the difference

>>60202040
Unless you delid there is no difference between skylake and kabylake for overclocking.
And even if you do delid the difference is minimal. 200MHz at most.

>xeon with 1.6GHz/2.8GHz turbo has better single core than a xeon with 2.5GHz/3.3GHz turbo

>>60202124
z170 doesn't support optane

>>60202171
optane is shit. You can only use it one the main windows drive, it won't speed up anything else.
It's also locked to intel only & one chipset only. Anyone that buys that shit is brainless.

>>60201881
Pls anyone???

>>60202171
but does it support neopets???????

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>>60202228
it doesn't you bitch

>>60201881
>>60202216

Going to be trying the same RAM at 3200 on my build tomorrow. Asrock Pro 4 B350. I'll make a post here with the results.

>>60202216
Check the verified RAM on the mobo's product page, should be under support or somehting.
You'll have to be far more specific than " ripjaws V 3000mhz" though. It will be listed as something like "F4-3000C15D-16GVR"

>>60202299
99% Ripjaws V is only officially supported up to 2666. Although i've seen people getting 3200.

>>60202268
The pro 4 only supports like 2 3200MHz configs and both through base clock OC from 2933MHz.
You're probably not going to get 3200MHz and depending on the sticks you got you'll be lucky to get 2933.

>>60202299
F4-3000C15D-16GVGB

>>60202317
2933 is fine tho.

>>60202317
I figured close 2933 would be a good day. Got them at the same price as the 3000 kit. BIOS may mature to allow me to set them with XMP one day, probably not even necessary though.

>>60202340
Lol, it's not even listed as supported.
Good luck.

>>60202374
>>60202380
>you'll be lucky to get 2933.
You probably wont though.
2666 is more likely.
2666 is also fine it's just dont get your hopes up.
Also It's unlikely these ram issues are going to be fixed with a bios update, the AB350 Pro 4 is already less capable than the average AM4 board already so expecting it to catch up and then exceed current higher end systems is a bit optimistic.

>>60202425
I've seen people get 3200 on the Pro 4, I don't think there is a huge difference between the B350 boards, to be honest.

>>60202267
Kanpai, you bitch! drink a beer

>>60202458
Compared to a higher end b350 board it supports relatively few 3200MHz kits
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory
It doesn't even seem to support the Flare X's
It's a good cheap board, I actually ordered one myself but I don't have any lofty expectations for it.

>>60202425
>>60202458
I have 2133 DR RAM. I'm hoping I can OC it to 2400 or 2666.
I only made one attempt, which was raising voltage to 1.3, speed to 2666, VDDP to 1.15, and the rest on auto. Looks like I'll have to try manual inputs on those others, or I'll simply not be able to OC this.
Oh well, though. I'm not a gaymer so it's unnecessary. I just needed 2x16GB for work.

>>60202509
I don't think anyone has any lofty expectations in terms of Ryzen RAM compatibility right now.

>>60202530
Isn't that what 80% of this reply chain has been about?

How is the stock thermal compound on the Wraith Spire coolers? Does it handle light OC'ing well? Buying 1600 and taking it to 3.7-3.8GHz.

>>60202458
Any specific kits they had? I'm getting the mATX variant and 3000MHz (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15) as I figured I'd be okay at (hopefully) 2933. But if the 3200 kit can make it....

>>60195658

fookn kek

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>>60201421
>>60201430
Okay so I updated the BIOS and found the RAM speed setting in the UEFI, but Speccy is still saying its 2133. Did I mess something up here, I didn't touch anything else.

>>60202592
I can't find any video reviews of it but google returns are few people anecdotally confirming it being only a few degrees hotter than properly applied higher end thermal paste.
Thermal paste is cheap either way, just grab a stick of it with your CPU and do a test yourself

>>60202633
It failed to boot into 3200 so it fell back with different settings until it'd boot.
Manually input timings and voltage. And try 2666 first.

>>60202592
Only the CMD32GX4M4B3000C15 seems to be supported to 2933MHz on the Pro 4
The CMK versions only go up to 2666, at least officially.

>>60202385
U sure..where i check this?

>>60202785
Asrock's page for the motherboard, under support then memory QVL
Or just click the second link here >>60202509

What is a good higher end motherboard for working with a 1080 GPU and a Ryzen 5 1600X? I have 16gb (2x8gb) of ram and two hard drives to work with.

>>60202821
Damn, so what this means? My ram will not work since it aint on support list??

Is a sound card really needed for my pc? pcpartpicker has the slot for them and I just wanted to know if it is a like marked improvement for sound?

>>60202859
It means it might not work at speeds above 2133.
But they haven't tested every RAM model ever made, either.

My brand new mobo will not POST. It turns on and all the fans spin/lights turn on as well. This goes on for about 15 seconds before it clicks off and restarts. There's no display while this is happening.
I tried swapping the ram and checked all the cables.

>>60202859
Not necessarily, but possibly.
I've had unsupported ram work on me in the past but i've also had to use a friend's ram to get my computer to boot so i could update the bios to a version that supported my RAM.

>>60202872
Get a DAC if you want better sound. Sound card is not worth it. The inside of your case is simply too noisy.

>>60202888
Unplug and replug everything, try using one stick of ram then the other check mobo/CPU pins try a friend's ram then, failing all that, consider suicide.
Or at least that's what I would do.

What counts as a cheap RX480?

I'm eyeing off an MSI Gamer X 8gig and it's $335AUD ($248USD)

Are 480/580 prices likely to drop come Vega? I thought not given it'll be addressing the higher end.

>>60203105
>Are 480/580 prices likely to drop come Vega
Not abruptly though the prices will naturally have fallen by then.
That's a good price for a 480 though you could also get the futuonline 480 G1 gaming for $320+free shipping from the ebay coupon sale but I think that's a slower card.

>>60203105
Man, two months ago you could get an RX480 for like $160USD. What the fuck happened?

>>60203207
It's an 8GB model and australia.

>>60202974
Ahaha holy shit it was the fucking CPU cable. Guess I'm not committing sudoku today.

>>60203206

I could get the gigabyte variety (marginally worse overall, base clock and cooling etc) for $305AUD. I'm pretty turned on by the enhanced cooling of the MSI card though.

>>60203207
I feel like they've always been overpriced in Australia, I've definitely never seen one below the $300 new mark. I'd say they're the lowest they've been.

I've got an old Intel i3-2120, runs at 3.30GHz, 6GB RAM. Unfortunately the integrated graphics card is an HD 2000 i.e. shit. Anyone got some recs for mid-tier graphics I'd be able to plug into this thing? Not looking to 4K game or even run new stuff on ultra, just want to be able to play shit from 3-4 years ago on mid at least. Not sure what my PSU is rated for, gonna have to check that later.

Which is better an Asus PCE-AC68 AC1900 wireless adspter or the one the comes inside the Asus Maximus IX Formula?

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Would you consider stock intel fan noisy (compared to other coolers)?

>>60203224
I could get the 8GB in Canada for $210 two months ago, no special sale or anything. Saw some on sale for just under $200. I thought being in Canada sucked.

>>60203339
Depends on the model.
Sandy bridge and earlier stock coolers were actually very good compared to other low profile coolers but intel uses all aluminium shit now.

>>60203207
There was an RX580 4GB for sale for $170 the other day, and an 8GB for $190 today. Those are good prices.

>>60203105
I'm not sure about AUD prices, but if that's tax included that sounds really good for that particular model.

>>60203282
>Not sure what my PSU is rated for, gonna have to check that later.
Well that's the most important part.
Also how much wattage your motherboard can output over PCIe.
If it's not an OEM PC it should be fine up to 75watts but if you've got a dell or HP or somehting it could be limited to anywhere from 75watts to 25watts which severely inhibits what you can choose.
Also if your PSU have PCIe power out that would greatly increase the options you have

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tsdnqk

Need something around 850$ that can play games and I can program with. Might end up buying another hardrive too to install GNU/Linux and work on some C programs.

>>60203424
Yeah it's a storebought HP, from like 2011 or 2013 I think. At the time it was just for basic desktop shit but it's all I've got to work with for now. Thanks for the info though; I'm new to this shit so I'm kind of stumbling my way into figuring it out.

>>60203458
Drop to 6600K and an evga 550 or 500watt bronze then up that 480 to an 8GB model.

>>60203526
I'm only gaming at 1080p, so I have zero use for it.

>>60203458
Swap out the Intel and meme cooler for an R5 1600 and B350 board.

Get rid of the shit SSD, get an Adata SU800 if you can still find one on sale, just anything but Kingston SSDNow desu.

>>60203544
A 8GB card just gives you more options and when you need to upgrade the 4gb cards wont sell as well as they should considering their performance since ebay runs on feelings not facts.
If you're fine with 4GB stick with it and either pocket the savings or throw it into somehting else because there is no difference between skylake and kabylake besides optane, and 80 plus gold is marginally better at best and a scam at worst. Also you wont need 600watts

>>60203566
>R5 1600
>shilling AMD still

>>60203641
Thanks for the advice. I might just have to go with an 8GB card for VR, in case I ever decide to shell out some money for it.

>>60203458
>$870 for 4 threads
what

>>60203657
>shilling AMD still

It's cheaper and is pretty much the same but with 2 additional cores and 8 additional threads. The 7600k is a dead-end.

>>60203695
I hear the performance is worse in emulators. I'm more inclined to use them over raw cores/threads.

>>60203695
Not the other dude. But how good is the wraith spire for some basic over clocking? I'm looking at building a new computer and ryzen seems pretty legit.

>>60203695
If he wants single core performance it's the best option at the moment.
There's no cookie cutter build, you are being obnoxious.

>>60203730
If you're doing emulators, why not just get an i3?

>>60203734
It depends on the silicon lottery, but i've seen people getting to 3.7ghz-3.8ghz on the Spire cooler average. Ryzen just hits a voltage wall after 3.8ghz. You usually run out of safe voltage limits before thermal headroom.

Need a build to play games in 4k and a 4k monitor to match.
Budget is $3200 USD
I live in the US

>>60203792
>If you're doing emulators, why not just get an i3?
Because the last time I got an i3, the entire thread derailed.

>>60203734
wraith spire on the 1600? Like 1.25-1.275v for serious torture testing, and 1.3-1.325v for normal usage.
You'll probably get 3.7-3.85GHz at those various voltages, depending on motherboard, silicon luck, etc.

>>60203734
It's manages barely with the 4 and 6 core Ryzens but i'd temper my expectations for the 8 core.
https://youtu.be/VNjkDoYZYjU?t=284

>>60203800
1800X, big vega, and that $1000-$2000 monitor that LG is coming out with.

>>60203730
What emulators? Fucking Cemu? It runs fine in Cemu for most games. For the ones it doesn't, it runs shitty on an i5, too.

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Alright boyos.
Some time ago I spilled water into my tower. It fried my mobo, which has now been replaced. My CPU works fine but my R9 390 seems to be toast. It lights up, but I get no display, the fans don't spin and my computer doesn't detect it at all.

Is there anything I could do before buying a new GPU?
Is the RX 480 a better buy for the money rather than getting another 390?

>>60203899
390 non-X? Eh they were power hungry anyway, but you might want to wait for Vega for an actual upgrade if you have a spare gpu to limp along with.

>>60203800
Come back when vega releases.
Whenever the hell that's going to be.
Until then dont listen to anyone, we dont know how good vega is it's just worth waiting if you can so you dont get blindsided by it.

>>60203916
I have no spare GPU. This is my first build. Will Vega work with Windows 7?
CPU is a 6600k btw if it matters.

>>60203865
Alright, how does this look instead of the i5? It's 50 shekels more, but I think its an improvement.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6xWDyf

>>60203380
They weren't always aluminum?
What about the fan on it?

>>60203936
ofc it will. But you get the full benefit of AMD GPUs when you can use DX12.

That CPU will bottleneck the fuck out of it though. Especially at 1080p. It was probably even bottlenecking your 390 in some newer games.

>>60203965
I'd get a larger SSD.
And if it's for 1080p. just a high factory OC RX570.
And 2666 RAM, at least. The rest looks good.