>new computer >bought 'only' 8 gigs ram >even

>being this retarded

>>60187517

It really depends, 8 gigs is fine tgo get by on at the moment, but it can in some cases be a bottle neck.

The most likely time you'd run into this is having a new game open, plus having your browser open, along with some standard background programs running can pretty easily max out 8 gigs of ram.

16 gigs isn't super expensive either, and will be useful for a looooong time.

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>>60187540
>bottle neck.
kys yourself gaming virgin who uses words they dont know the meaning of

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>>60187559
>frogposters

k

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mfw on 6 gigs since 2009 never once had a problem

>>60187517
>7GB
your swap space says Hi

>>60187517
I keep trying to tell my mother this. She's convinced that she needs 16gb of RAM and an i5 when the most intensive thing she does is open a PDF while checking her email.

>>60187540
>16 gigs isn't super expensive either
RAM has been steadily overpriced and increasing in price for half a decade or so now.
>you'll never get 16gb for $30 of top quality RAM ever again
not even HDD prices have fully fucking recovered still.
pipe dream in wishing even slow sata 3 ssds will be at a price that isn't fucking retardedly high

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>mfw I paid less last July for 16GB than OP did for his 8GB

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>loaded the fuck up on 32GB at $35/8GB DIMM because I have the wealth to take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves
>running VMs and a billion browser tabs alongside games with no fucks given
>mfw

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mfw fall for the 24gb meme

>8 chromium tabs
>f2k
>steam
>adobe reader
>3.7/8
phew i almost fell for the 16GB RAM meme

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>2017
>8gb

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>>60189294
>memory pressure

>>60187517
16 GB is only worth it when you use your computer for something useful for society. 8 GB is perfectly fine for posting memes and watching trap porn, as OP has already verified.

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>>60187517
>never heard of VM
> assumes nobody else ever has either

Take it to /pol/ or /b/ (you) flaming fuckwit.

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>Missing out on all that cache to preload your daily programs
RAMlets, when will they learn?

>tfw you could've bought 8GB kits for half the price just a couple of months ago

feels like Bitcoin at 2008 before it went big

>>60187517
>still rocking 4GB
>most intensive tasks use ~2GB
It's called usecase, fool.
Mine asks for 4GB of RAM, yours for 8GB.

Memes like 16GB are supposed to catch most common usecases.
Doesn't mean it's perfect, just that it's most likely to be the sweet spot where you won't use more but still benefit from not having less.

>>60189474
>trying to ignore the facts
stop lying to yourself and stop being too poor for 8gb of ram

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>tfw fell for the 16 GiB RAM meme

>tfw fell for the 3.5 GB ram meme

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>tfw still using 4gig
How's it feels like using 8 and 16 gig?

>not performing real time rendering of the simulated movement of subatomic particles as they approach the even horizon of a Reissner-Nordström black hole
Should've bought more ram desu

Weird, if I use mysql, eclipse, chrome, Java, Word,pidgin and steam. I am hovering 7gb, kinda wish I had 16gb

>>60187540
I've already seen this with 8 gigs. Should get another pair of DDR3 before the prices jump up or something. Populating all 4 slots won't affect performance or anything will it? It's an H97 board.

>>60187517
What's the point on RAM when you can just cache all programs in your CPU's cache?

You do have enough CPU cache right? You're not some poorfag

you got a brand new computer and you're already near the max capacity. good job OP.

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>>60189519

>>60189232
>sugerowanie że kiedykolwiek to wykorzystasz

>>60189232
All those unnecessary cores, too. You only need like 4 TOPS.

Maybe I should make a thread every time I decide not to buy something.

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>>60187517
>HE BOUGHT 8 FUCKING GIGS OF RAM
>He didnt use his old 256mb ram + additional 32GB swap space on his HDD
LMAOOOOOO

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>>60187517
Your days are numbered, RAMlet.

For the work i do, I think i might need 32

>>60187604
>open a PDF

Does she use Adobe? I have a 7700k and a 1080ti with 32gb of ram, and adobe reader still brings my system to its knees.

>>60187517
>only have 8 gigs of ram
>computer somehow never uses more than 8 gigs
Wow, 16 GB cucks BTFO

>>60190668
is this picture still accurate? I thought modern games require atleast 16GB of ram now

>>60187517
Install 16GB and see that the same tasks will utilize more than 7GB. Why are people like this even allowed on neo/g/?

>>60190878
16 GB reccomended. 8 GB minimum.

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>>60190947
>RAMlets will never have so much RAM that Windows stretches it's legs out and uses as much of it as possible

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>>60190947
>RAMlets will never get to experience the speed of a PC with atleast 512GB of RAM

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>mfw 4GB and no problems ever

> didnt fall for 32gb meme
> 16gb is constantly full

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>>60187587
>2017
>having a swap partition

>>60191448
ram is expensive as fuck these days. even with 16gb ram you should have one just in case.

>>60191510
Just in case? What a retarded reason.

>>60187540
>/g/
>most extreme case assumed to be video games

>>60187517
> Not having 1125 tabs open

I have a t460 with 8gb, should I buy another 8gb stick for 60-70 bucks? It's not that I can't afford to lose the money but for now idk if I need it. I do use adobe illustrator + 2-3 office programs + data analysis software in parallel sometimes, but I have yet to break 6 GB even once.

is dual channel worth it?

>>60189294
What the fuck are you using anon?

I was on 2 gigs until 2 years ago and I didn't even had problems running skyrim and shit

>>60189232
kek
that over 80% memory bar is funny though

>>60187517
What if I'd like to run some VMs on top of those "intensive tasks"?
Also, "even the most intensive tasks only use 7GB" doesn't mean dick.

We wouldn't need all this RAM if webfags stopped trying to develop for the desktop. 300mb for a fucking v8 client/server, which webfags neither know nor care about, they just think "look at me I'm a a real developer too!!"

Fucking retards.

>>60189232
b-but that's not a power of 2!

>>60191525
you've never ran out of physical memory? you use like 1 tab of /g/ and that's it?

>>60187517
If you dont do anything my grandmother wouldnt do then 8gb is fine
if you dont do any multitasking then thats fine
if all you do is game,
dont do vms
dont do shit
dont wont ram disks

t. someone who was using 36 gb of ram the other day

>>60191529
That's what my junior coworker does. He can't even see the favicons anymore and constantly misses when I ask him to show me something. He's somehow autistic and twists his head while nervous.

>>60187517
>>60191529
>>60191667
also just checked, my firefox with over 200 tabs was using 5.4 GB of RAM (tfw didnt even notice, tfw dont even have to worry)

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>tfw I fell for this

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I with I fell for it.

>>60191596
this is sort of true and definitely plays a role. Just generally "software as a service", "always online" etc are eating away at it. Just look at office 2007-2010-2013-2016. Aside from integrated Bing search and MS botnet/cloud shit 2016 has literally the same functionality as 2007, except it takes up three times the disk space and two times the RAM. Less than 6 years ago 1GB ram was fine for anything like web browsing, office etc. Now 4gb is touching the low end. We have fucking phones with 4gb ram

If someone can make a working webapp I'm not even mad, at least I don't have to install anything on my PC.

>>60187517
>the most intensive tasks only use 7GB
lol

>>60191782
>64GB ram
kek, you could just run windows + all your installed software from the ram.

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8 GB is fine though.

>>60191662
>you've never ran out of physical memory?
nope

>lel le 1 tab perhaps?
clever, keep pretending that you actually need more than 8gb, if you keep at it you might feel better about falling for the 16gb meme.

>>60189530
Yes definitely it will, albeit to a small degree. I forget how but basically the FSB works the dims individually and has to order them meaning there's double the cycles.
Like I said, I've forgotten exactly how but apparently less is more here in the case of speed

>>60191826
kill yourself stupid /v/ kid

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>>60187517
How do you even live?

>>60191866
>haha you play gaymes!
Wew you're really on a roll today anon, where do you come up with this stuff?

>>60191895
how to you even use 24GB? do programs just scale their use to the ram available?

>>60189232
KURWAAAAAA INSTALL GENTOO

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>>60187517
tfw

>>60187517
I use on average 12GB and have 32 installed for VM's and Photoshop / video editing. Very much maxed out most days of the week.

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>>60187517
kek, falling for the 8 gb meme
You only need 2 gb ddr2

>>60191536
Dualchannel is great. I'd say try using 2x4GB and see if it makes a difference during your work.

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>>60192177
Usually, they say any good OS will use what RAM you have, no sense of it not doing anything, use it for cache or whatever. (Actually, this was a server, I was being a jerk anyway) however this is my work PC, not sure why my boss got it with so much RAM? Maybe he thought i'd VM or something.

>>60187517
Sounds like you couldn't afford it and now you're saying it's a meme. Nice justification poorfag.

>play games at ultra
>Titanfall 2 uses up 10gigs of ram by itself
>" games dont need more than 8!!!"
glad I didn't listen to shitters in /v/.

>>60191080
>>60191162
Isn't even about RAMlets, it's about people lacking basic knowledge of how things work.

>>60192993
Oh god this so much. I hate when idiots cry that their OS uses a lots of ram... and when I tell them that free ram is actually useless, they look at me like I'm some idiot.

>>60187575
hold up. Did we even have ddr3 in 2009?

>>60193440
Think so.

>>60193453
>>60193440
just searched it up. it was released mid 2007.

>>60193440
>>60193502
2009 was the tipping point when ddr3 came down in price so it wasn't an overpriced meme compared to ddr2

>>60193587
and now the price (ram) has rose a substantial amount for some unknown reason.

>>60193619
I'm so happy that I got 4x16gb ddr4 when it was half the price

>>60193639
I'm glad for you. Now to wait a while until ddr4 overtakes ddr3 so as to make my new pc build.

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creepy af

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>>60189507

>>60193711
/i know, man. NiMh cells are pretty damn scary

>>60189519
i moved from 2GB of ram to 16GB and good lord it is amazing. I never have to close tabs again. Random programs remain open forever even after I am done using them. It is an amazing feeling really.

>>60190734
>using adobe reader
what year is this? 1999?

If you program java and run local vms and server you need 16gb. Other than thay ive never needed more than 8

>>60193711
Mfw I'm getting the same recommendations.

>>60187517

8 Gigs is fine but I got 16 just because people do different things at the same time. And the web is shit now.

Maybe she boots up a dedicated VM for each program for safety

>>60187517
>doesn't know how caching works

>not taking the safe route and getting 12 GB

>>60187517
>not having 128GB of RAM
>being this poor

>>60187517
Sarcasm?

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>>60187517
I fell for the 8GB(not really) (already had a 16GB PC), but I got Mobo+CPU+ 16GB RAM for free for building a PC and ended up getting the parts I was building because "things" happened.
Had 8GB from older PC I sold, took the 8GB before selling it since the one buying had a crashed PC that had 12GB, so I just swapped that into the one I sold. Got 16GB for free with the mobo I have now, ended up having 24GB for free*

>>60192177
>do programs just scale their use to the ram available?
Now you're getting it.

Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
RAM won't fully fill since it will push things to pagefile to prevent program crash or in worst case BSOD.
With enough RAM you don't need the pagefile, but some programs don't work as intended without a pagefile so just make a tiny one at around 4-8GB or something.
Disable sleep and hybrid if SSD space is low instead.

>>60187517
You do know that even operating systems can use up to 2GB of RAM alone, right?

>Not using 256mb RAM

Idiots I fucking swear

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>fell for 16gb meme
>never used more than 6
>have 10gb of untouched ram
>tfw

>>60189519
In a nutshell...
4gb: niguh what r u doin
8gb: standard, you're doing fine
16gb: Don't need to worry about ram until it dies
32gb: Y tho
64gb: You better have a good explanation and I better see at least 50gb used.

>>60187517
>Not running VMs on your system

>>60196128
Bill Ballmer once said that 640K of memory should be enough for anyone.

>>60191841
Thanks man. Guess I'll bite the bullet and do it, don't want to re-buy 2x 8GB sticks. I know everything's on DDR4 now but I intend to run this machine for another few years.

>>60187517
>being a ramlet
wew

>>60187540
In a primary gaming rig maybe. I currently use 4 GB in my second computer and don't run into problems except when I open ME Andromeda, the whole PC shutters like a 2002 Celeron then.

I'm going to upgrade to a newer platform with DDR3 and will install 8 GB just to be sure. I don't think more will be useful in a HTPC and 8 GB sticks are expensive.

>>60187517
I rarely pass the 1GB RAM mark in this day and age, kek.

Last year I got 8 gigs of ram for 32$.. what happened?

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>>60187517
I've got 40 gb for pretty much no reason. I don't need that much. I guess I just got so much so I wouldn't have to touch it for a very long time.

>>60201017
Got 16 GB DDR4 for 45 € new.

4 sticks of DDR2 8 GB cost 40 € now used.

But 2 sticks DDR3 8 GB cost me 10 € so I guess its time to upgrade.

>>60187517

Ahahah. 16 is more where you need these days.

FF is using 2-3gb.
Game A is using 3.8gb
VM is allocated 4gb
Winshit/drivers average usage is 1-2gb
Discord/irc/mumble/ts (communication platforms) use 1gb

So yes, at minimum you need more than 8gb. So 16 is it.

>>60190668
I think 32GB could be moved down to the upper yellow bracket if you're working on large coding projects on VMs or for future proofing since games will be using 16 GB in no time.

>>60187517
>he doesn't know about Firefox

>>60189316
When you're done using a program, you can click the little "X" shaped button in the corner and it will go away

Well, if it serves your usage, then good for you, OP.
Personally, I can't wait to go from 8GB DDR3 to 16GB DDR4 with my next computer.

8GB is the standard, OP. Stop being a faggot.

4GB is a joke, though.

>GiB
fag

>>60189530
any performance drop will be minor and can be overcome by slightly overclocking your memory

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>>60189411
>2008
I see you're running bait

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>>60187517
This is bullshit, this entire thread. I have yet to break 3 GiB in everyday usage. Hover at below 2GiB on average, with browser always open.

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>>60187517
i've only had 4 gigs for the past 4 years and have had no problems.

I max out my 8 GB with just Chrome open. I wish I fell for the 16 GB meme.

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>>60187568
>anime posters

>>60203537
not him but i distinctly recall that bitcoin was a thing already in early 2008 and people were doing gpu mining and making a lot of money from it but i was just a school kid and i didn't have the funds and know-how to get into it myself. false memory?

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>>60196157
I know that feeling. I could have just left things alone with 8. But hey, I bought my additional 16 last year for about $50 so I can't complain about price.

>>60193767
>Random programs remain open forever even after I am done using them.
THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST FEELING

captcha: Crow NORMIE
amazing

Ram gets saturated when I open about 10 perfect world clients on top of everything else. Gonna upgrade soon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atech-4GB-DIMM-DDR3-Desktop-PC3-12800-12800-1600MHz-1600-240-pin-Ram-Memory-/321872623322

are these good?

>>60188625
>$140
>Wealth

>>60205415
>he thinks $140 isn't a substantial amount of money to spend on random things you don't have an immediate need for
t. poorfag

>>60187517
>>60190734

>not just dragging the file to chrome

>have pc with 5g ram
>firefox likes to idle at maybe 800mb or 1gb if i have a lot of tabs
>get new pc with 8gb ram
>firefox idles with 1 tab open at 1.5gb and if i open a lot of tabs it jumps to 2.5
firefox devs need to fucking commit suicide

>>60187517
My work issued laptop has 16GB RAM and I regularly use all of it.

>>60205698
This

>>60205671

>things on the internet should adhere to my autistic build

they literally dont even make dimms smaller than 4 gigs now because you can barely use an OS that's currently being maintained by its developer with just 4 gigs

having just 1 tab with a 1080p video playing, then trying to do anything else in another window is already asking too much

and if you open more than 20 or so tabs with a real browser and real sites that arent just image boards with no javascript it'll eat up 8 gigs soon too

16 leaves no worry for any normal non-autist using a graphical interface

but 8 gigs is okay, i was a former 16 on my last build, got just 1 8 gig dimm to get by for now and only when opening 20+ tabs does it get near max but it also caches and holds data which takes up almost the entire 8 gigs

when i had 16 it was more than enough no matter how intense the browsing and multitasking was

>>60191552
Haha woah
Skyrim totally isn't 6 years old desu

>>60191782
>64 GB REM
>3 GB 1060

Are you ok?

>>60204494
Get out

>>60187517
i have 32, i run several virtual machines concurrently

>8gb
>enough
nope.
>inb4 vidya gaymes
my 2nd PC built for vidya in VR has a few gams where with ONLY the game and steam open maxes the 8GB and causes crashes due to lack of memory, so i had to take a 4gb stick out of my main PC. this has since fixed all issues.

My current Adobe apps sitting open are currently using 17 of my 32gb.

firefox alone is using 8GB right now. what happens if i want to open photoshop at the same time? what about if i need to open after effects as well? 32GB absolute minimum.

>ITT: unproductive blogposters whine about how the hardware they bought is too good for pressing f5 on a 6 webpages 24/7
Running adobe shit, blender, daz3d, and so on will easily go up into 15gb with even simple shit.

>run tree style tabs on flamefox
>within 2 days have 400 tabs loaded
>11gb of ram used

>>60202480
but what if i need it later

>>60191902
Not him but kys autist

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>fall for the 8GB meme
>wonder why shit runs slow sometimes
>"oh okay, I just have to close my browser while I do this modeling/CAD work"
>buy a 16GB kit
>j-j-jam it in and have 24GB now
>can watch movies while shitposting while playing games while doing CAD

>people complaining that their browser takes up more than 1GB

Literally use the 32bit version of your browser. There is no benefit to having a 64bit browser. I have never gone above 600MB usage even with a hundred porn tabs open.

>>60187517
32GB here and I feel the limits.
Granted, I run a lot of VMs, often in parallel.

>>60208259
>>j-j-jam it in

wew another oldfag

>>60193440
DDR3 was on the second generation of core 2 duos.
Shit's old.

>>60208283
>I have never gone above 600MB usage even with a hundred porn tabs open.
bs

you're hitting the swap file

if you run 32 bit chrome it will just fail to load pages because it ran out of addressable memory

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>>60187517
Meanwhile, on OP's machine

>>60187540
>8 gigs is fine tgo get by on at the moment, but it can in some cases be a bottle neck.

So you run your CS:GO and 30 redid meme chrome tabs at the back and shitty underage streamers and steam friends groups ?

>>60208984
>using a swap partition
kys

>>60209096
>having applications crash for no real reason

80 gigs reporting, having a ramdisk is fucking sweet.

>>60189522
Fuck that, i do computer vision algorithm and 16 gigs falls shorts af

>>60187517
>GiB
WTF is this shit, iBytes?
appleniggers >>>/out/

>>60191539
System monitor on OSX

>>60208283
even if you're only looking at images, a single uncompressed image at say 2048x1536 is 9.4 MB (12.6 MB with an alpha channel which is the format graphics cards use), so if you have 100 tabs the images alone would be more than 600 MB

>>60191510
>expensive as fuck
62$ for 8 GB

>>60191782
don't tell me its for gayms

buddy wanted me to do repo surgery for him, turns out that for his repo, i definitely did not have enough ram.

If you do vidja gamen 8-16gb is alright
if you do virtualization 16gb is good
if you do repo surgery or any compiling work like that you'll need 32gb.

not sure what would entail 64gb of ram.

>>60209609
$250 for 32 GB

>tfw bought 16GB as 4x4
>tfw 32 at least would be preferable

Why does ram have to be so expensive ;_;

>>60209820
you don't need 32g

Why do people jump from 8 gig to 16 gig and not add 4gb and go to 12 gig

>>60204494
anime website

>>60210143
don't care

>>60210133
cause everyone is a h4k0r now
and muh compatibility and muh timing and speed and shit

>>60203610
It seriously depends on what you're doing. I've got 16GB and I usually hover around 11-12GB of ram used with stuff like browser open (10-15 tabs), LoL client open and optionally the whole game if I'm actually gaming at the time (Don't judge I'm addicted) and a couple of VMs for my homelab (Puppet master/couple of slaves/AD controller etc). I'm yet to start swapping but I'm always dangerously close (and swapping with my shitty HDDs would be a total disaster).

>>60210311
>LoL
>game
>gaming
gay

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>>60190734
>using Adobe reader

>>60205021
>early 2008
It wasn't published until October.

>>60193711
Big Clive is based af.

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>>60196398
>tfw I have 2 gb

>>60210975
my phone has 4 gb

>>60211093
>4GB phone ram is better than 2GB PC ram.
Can this meme die already? They are not the same thing.

Current ram usage doesn't really mean anything. Last week we had a problem with our database server struggling with regular stresstests, we added more RAM and solved the issue with it. The dbms seemed to only use a certain percentage of what was available for caching, the moment it had access to more RAM it cached more and worked more smoothly.

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>>60189501

comfy

$ free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:            15G        8,8G        377M        1,1G        6,2G        5,1G
Swap:           11G        308M         11G

I'm glad that I fell for the 16GiB meme. No need to read blocks from the disk when they are already cached in memory.

>>60208297
>j-j-jam it in
explain

>>60187517
Yeah, imagine the horror of being able to do multiple tasks at once.

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RAM thread?

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>>60214615
>93,8GB