Is this the time to start hording content? It seems trackers

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When I finish watching something I just toss it on an external HDD and wipe the files from my main HDD.

Same for vidya, although my video game setup folder is smaller in comparison, it's still got plenty of comfy of games that are usually a pain in the ass to find. I also include all kinds of mods and patches in there. Pretty useful.

Yeah, it's disorganized. So far I've been simply tossing stuff in there.

>>60180211
>Is this the time to start hording content?
Nope. The time has long passed.
You missed it.

>>60181080
How so?

>>60181205
It was a half-joke, anon.
Yes, the time is now. But it's already getting harder and harder to get access to some content.
Just hoard everything you can that has any value for you. That's what I'm doing.

And also, try to share as much of it as you can, whenever you can, with as many people as possible.

>>60181205
Because of the botnet. They know everything about you, every piece of file you downloaded,even the tranny porn disguised as manly

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>>60180211
>start

If you didn't start at least 11 years ago you're late to the party.

>>60181346
okay nigger boy, time for me to start investing my whole days to hoarding!!! None can stop me now

Set up sftp and share some stuff

What are the recommended HDDs to hoard stuff?
Something with a good balance of $/TB and not being shit.

>>60181437
Im also curious. Would you guys recommend internal or externals are just as good?

>>60181437
WD Reds.
Or Pre-Intellipark Greens or Greens after running widdle.exe on them.

>>60181450
Never get external HDD's for long term storage.

>>60181437
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>>60181450
>>60181437
I have couple of 4TB seagate hard drives that are backed up with the same hard drives, they are the best per price per GB

>>60180211
It was always time to start hoarding content, dumbfuck.

>>60181450
>>60181437
I just use externals. The ones that only need one USB chord for power and data.
I get the ones with the best price/TB ratio I can find when buying.

>>60181437
HGST 4TB

>>60181437
the recommend HD I would say is minimum 4TB or higher capacity, then find one with the best price/GB then if you're planning to buy 1, buy another one for exact backup

>>60181544
No memes necessary for hoarding content.
No one is talking about their collection of limited edition frog pictures here.

>HGST
>meme

>>60181476
>buying sex toys

@60181696

I have 8tb worth of anime, it is enough?

>>60181766
No

I'm hoarding in DVD/BD, i can't trust HDDs after all, and also they're really easy to store.

So 4TB is currently the sweet spot? I like WD drives, should i go with red ones?

>>60181437
>>60181450
>>60181479
i wonder if bluray at this point would be better $/gb

>>60181973
Hard drives are more convinient to us as you would need to span your data across many more bluray discs

>>60181973
I totally forgot bluray discs exist... How safe it is to store data on them? Do they degrade fast or something?

>>60182075
>Do they degrade fast or something
whole point is they dont. bluray will out live hardrive, definitely outlive ssd/flash, and tape storage, if stored in a shoebox somewhere dry and cold.

>>60182075
Safer but less accessible.
And convenience is a major factor to storage, otherwise we would still be using tape.

>>60181437
WD blue 4TB @ 75 bucks.
RAID them.

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The day sad panda goes...
Wani was bad, but this will be the biggest shitstorm

Probably, just to be safe.

However hard drives are a horrible long-term storage medium. Use 50/100GB blu-ray m-discs instead.

>>60182374
What makes you think ex-hentai will go down? Also I question the quality control on ex-hentai....

>>60182374
Muh sekret klub

>>60182377

What do you mean?

>>60182374
it's decentralized pretty well

you'll lose your favorites and points, but not the content

YES GOYIM, start hoarding as much evidence as possible! We get to fine you for every pirated file we find on your hard drive, so load up!

>>60182432
>not encrypting your hard drives

>>60182458
>not realizing we have quantum computers to crack your encryption (and that's only if we don't have a back door!)

>>60182424
Hard drives can spontaneously mechanically fail. m-discs are protected from spontaneous mechanical and electrical failure (SSD voltage leakage).

Switching the bluray disc in the drive manually is too much of a pain in the ass though.
What's the cheapest robotic solution to find and insert discs automatically?

>>60181973
blurays are slow and loud. i can never go back to spinning disks after experiencing glorious ssd.

>>60182558
None that I can think of but we should begetting 256, 512, and then 1TB m-discs soon.

http://www.eteknix.com/256gb-blu-ray-disc-created-by-pioneer-512gb-in-development/

>>60180211
>Is this the time to start hording content?
try two years ago

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allright gents this is what you do.

you go buy as many of these as you can afford and you put them in RAID:

https://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Ultrastar-HUA722020ALA331-Enterprise-Refurbished/dp/B01CM85C0K/ref=pd_sim_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CM85C0K&pd_rd_r=782TXFQE03H6H56TVS82&pd_rd_w=3AYuO&pd_rd_wg=q4Weu&psc=1&refRID=782TXFQE03H6H56TVS82


I dont give a fuck what you use, but reccomend Freenas and Raid Z2. Raid 10 can come too if you gotta go fast, but keep in mind if you lose the wrong 2 drives you're fucked.


>but its refurbished shit!
No its not retard its hitachi enterprise drives that are "verified" to have no bad sectors. Make sure to check them yourself when you get them in. If the drive was going to fail due to a manufacturing defect it would have died years ago. You'll get another 5 years out of these easy.


I've got 11 of these drives in my FreeNAS box now and couldn't be happier with them. Will be expanding to 14 drives soon and then rebuild the whole array.

>>60182686
>"spontaneous mechanical failures now with extra rust!"

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>>60182686
The free psu hasnt exploded yet for anybody who remembers the thread.

I upgraded my home network to 10gigabit to take advantage of the full speed of the FreeNAS box. You can bring 4 servers/workstations up to 10gigabit for about 400 bucks including all switches and network hardware.

If you dont want to do that, then just upgrade your freenas box to 10 gigabit, add a 10gigabit card to your main workstation and direct connect the two. Bridge that nic on your workstation to another one to give your freenas box internet without having to buy a 10 gigabit switch.

you will buy one later though, because its fucking rad.

>>60182733
your chaces of a brand new drive failing in the first 3 months are higher than a refurbished drive with no bad sectors fucknugget.

thats why if you care about your data you put it in redundant storage no matter where you got your drives from.

and then you back that data up to crashplan because RAID IS NOT A BACKUP SOLUTION.

>>60180211
>tfw when got 2 old desktops with 4 HDD's in each for storage
>even family members want to store important photos of various grandparents and such on them
>hoard away any pirated Windows CD's from my stepfather when he pirated like a madman
>mfw when both desktops run a pirated copy of XP Pro just because XP is super stable and can run for days on end

GOD WHATEVER ELSE GOES DOWN PLEASE DON'T LET EXHENTAI OR NHENTAI BE ONE OF THOSE ON DEATH'S TO-DO LIST.....

Get whatever floats your boat now before its gone. Then make a backup (or 2) of it. That's my 2 cents. Raid + backup (another hdd you stash away or blu-ray, whichever) and your good. Long as you keep your backup hdd powered off and somewhere where it won't get damaged you should be fine. For insurance make 2 copies plus your main Raid array. Keep this goal in mind = Make sure it (data) lasts least 80 yrs without any degradation. After 80 yrs it's all moot cause you'll be dead by then. (Unless your kids/grandkids like your porn/movies/etc)

>>60182075
It's just more expensive and way less convenient to archive on bluray, compared to HD array/tape backups, especially since you need to use M-Disk to ensure longevity. Plus, if you want to access that data regularly, you're going to be handling disks, which really decreases their lifespan.

Let's say you need to store 200TB of shit.

BD M-Disk:
>15 pack of 25 GB disk: $67
>$178 per 1TB archived
>$35k total
>no running cost
>fuckton of disks everywhere

Tape:
>$1500 LTO-6 tape drive
>2.5 TB Tape: $25
>$17.5 per TB stored
>$3500 Total

HDD:
>$75 for 4TB WD Blue
>assuming 2:1 for redundancy
>18.75 per TB
>$7500 for just storage
>$5k for servers to hold drives
>700W HDD array + 1000W servers consume 15,000 KWh/yr, costing $1800/yr in electricity

Tape is clearly superior if you don't need to access the data very often, which I'm not sure why 1 person would need to access all 200TB all the time.
If you're hosting a mondo seedbox or something, hard drives are your only option.
M-Disk only wins in longevity, whereas tape is expected to last 30 years, and HDDs need to be in an active array so they can be swapped out as they die.

>>60182947
>After 80 yrs it's all moot

Really it all becomes moot even faster than that due to resolutions changing.
It's all going to look like 320X240 shit on the "12K" or whatever screens of the not too distant future.

Next week I'll begin hoarding on external drives, hopefully 3.5 4TB WDs Blues or Seagates either 2TB or 4TB.

I don't want to risk a failure so I'll keep a backup of each. Still just 2 backups sounds a bit too little so how probable is it for a drive to completely die out of the blue? I mean a brick failure, no spin up and no way to recover rather than gradual failure.

>>60183154
your drive can fail at any time for no reason.

specific reasons it might fail include friction, heat, shock/vibration, shouting at it too much and static.

>>60183228
Yeah, actually I thought about it and considering I intend to keep my anime even after im done watching it blurays seem more convenient.

>>60183000
Your math is bad

>>60183266
Explain?

>>60183266
>math
Your English is bad.

>>60182686
listen to this man

Buying HGST enterprise-grade disks and throwing them into a RAID is the patrician's choice for media storage.

>>60183108

Huh?

When will I be able to get an LTO-6 tape drive for cheap?

>>60183413
Not him but I have no idea how you're confused.

>>60183442
Why goy, when you can just stream Legal content from our Premium services why bother with local storage Mr Caveman?

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>>60183000
>$1500 LTO-6 tape drive
The jewery surrounding tape is outstanding.

>>60182377
>However hard drives are a horrible long-term storage medium
This is why RAID exists.
Drive dies, you just replace that drive. Nothing is lost.

You should only have to worry about replacing maybe once every 2~5 years.

>>60183513
bro you have no idea how cheap that is.

its backwards compatible with all previous LTO drives, and the tapes are cheap as shit.

>>60183108
>>60183453

320x240 was objectively bad when it was the standard.
For the past 80 years, we've been using 35mm film which has a res of something between 4k and 8k.
In terms of home use, Laserdisc was the first real home movie system, and doesn't look that bad. That's irrelevant now, since theaters and home technology have largely converged.

Go watch Ben-Hur, it looks great after 60 years.

>>60183549
>it looks great after 60 years.

As opposed to?

>>60183533
HDDs are only the correct solution if you want near-instant and constant access to the stored data.
If you just want to hold data, tape is the right way.
This is all for personal use, btw.

Institutions and businesses will use both. HDD pool for active data, with tape drives making super cost effective backups.

>>60182686
holy shit how can this be real? $35 for 2tb

>>60183549
>res between 4k and 8k
That's fine. But what matters is the resolution your media is. There's no 4k or 8k content out there for the pirate. The best you're getting is a high quality blu-ray with 1080p.

1080p will look like shit in a few decades, I guarantee it. It may even be completely incompatible with the technology used then.

>started hoarding content years ago
>go back to look at all my different backups
>sporadic corrupt files
>outright missing files
>128kbps
>yify

I may as well burn it all down desu.

>>60183539
The tape is dirt cheap.
The drives will cost you an arm, leg, kidney, and 5 liters of blood.

Not to mention the exorbitant prices for shit that was used 24/7 with little to no maintenance work and will foot you with the bill.

>>60183597

Wait what do you mean? There's loads of Ultra Blue Ray 4k movie releases

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C'mon data horders
Now's your fuggin time
Move to the better platform
(or just host your own trackers like jfc)

>>60183601
Keep all the files and work to replace them with better copies.

>>60183577
As opposed to the statement that in 80 years our media will look like ass.

>>60183597
There are plenty of 4k UHD transfers, and many movies from the 90s and 2000s it doesn't matter as much since the digital intermediate in production was 2k.
1080p won't look like shit. I don't perceive much difference going from HD to 4k, and HD is going to be king for at least 10 more years until the full 4k content chain is developed.

>>60182686
If youre using these as NAS what's a good device for that that can hold a bunch of drives?

>>60183686
>wow this VHS remaster is great!
>wow this DVD looks so amazing! like real life!
>1080p! things will never look much better than this!

>>60183632
Does this thing even work?

>>60183738

Uhhh what came before VHS?

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I used to care about this shit then I did some math and it's literally a waste of my time.

>>60183822

?

How so?

>>60183757
Movie theaters?

I have 2 HGST NAS rated drives in my desktop.

Should I allow windows to let them sleep? Does it really make a difference in the long run? Power consumption is not an issue, I only care about the life of the drives.

>>60183882
Movie theater would look better than some ass VHS tape.

>>60183757
Nothing. There was no "home video market" Now people had cams and what not for there own vids but far as video rental/buying studio movies it was non existent. This was the age of drive in movies.

>>60183738
Yeah, but there's an limit to our visual acuity.

4k is the next generation, and it's really not that visually different unless you're viewing it super up close or on a massive screen.

>>60183968

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>>60181437
I just bought 22 of these. They have WD WD80EFZX Reds in them which are basically HGST He8s. Going to replace a 10x3TB Reds and 12x2TB Samsungs

>>60183952
Oh, in that regards. That's why I said VHS "remaster".

>>60183968
>>60183977
>massive screen
Like something we all pretty much have in our living room? That's the point. 20 years from now, 1080p will look like shit on our 80 inch <insert OLED replacement> built-in-to-the-wall "television" screen.

>>60183978

>>60182686 here

I bought about 17 of those too but I wouldn't bother raiding them with ZFS. The hardware costs are too high to be worth it and they run hot. Maybe go with SnapRAID. Also I've gotten plenty of them DoA. You can't trust them to be "verified". If you buy these, do a full zero write on them and check the smart data.

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>>60183978
>replace

Uh, I did some quick math and to backup all 8TB of my data to 50GB blu-ray discs would set me back around $400 plus the cost of blu-ray burner.
By contrast I could buy a 10TB drive and use that for a 2nd copy and long term archival drive for $370.00. Cheaper and a lot simpler solution.

>>60183738
>>wow this VHS remaster is great!
Literally no one said this, VHS looked like trash and was usually panned and scanned to shit. People bought it because it was cheap and everywhere. Even at the time, you would have bought laserdisc if you really cared about image quality.

>>60184024
Well I won't be getting rid of them but they aren't going in my primary server. They'll just sit in a fireproof cabinet with whatever backup data I end up putting on them.

>>60181464
This. Even the Greens will last in a RAID5 after removing the park timeout on them with wdidle

>>60184013
1080p already looks like shit compared to 1440p

>>60182686
this nigga knows whats up. bought 10+ for nas and desktop use.

>>60184039
>Literally no one said this
Underage b&. I remember vividly people hyping the 1997 SE releases of the Star Wars OT for the enhanced quality (putting the shit Lucas added in aside). This may be hard for you to understand, but back in the 90s, we'd watch VHS and the quality would not bother us.

>laserdics
We're talking about normies here, Anon. No one had those.

>>60184069
Agreed. Especially on a 23" monitor.

>>60184069
nah, at least for anime
I watched 1080p Ghibli films on 55in 4k tv and they looked alright

>>60184013
That's assuming that for your living room/entertainment room a 80+ inch screen is doable or worth it. My living room, a 65" is plenty big enough for the space and is giving you the "movie theater" atmosphere yet your not sitting so close that you'd go blind.

Piracy will become extinct in our lifetimes. So yes.

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>>60184116
>1080p anime

>>60183696
build yourself a freenas box.

>>60184021
they dont run hot at all, and it was super cheap to build a box for them.
Here's the specs on mine.

From Ebay:

2x - Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5335 @ 2.00GHz - $20
2x - INTEL LGA771 COOLING FAN HEATSINK $20 (I fucked up and these didnt fit the case properly, but was able to fit it to mobo with machine screws.)
1x - SuperMicro X7DCL-3 Motherboard Dual LGA771 Socket -$45


From http://www.edgetechcorp.com - $1 per gigabyte of ram, cheap as fuck, much cheaper than ebay

6x - 4GB DDR2-667 PC2-5300 ECC Registered 240 Pin 1.8V CL=5 Rank 2 Memory 256x4 $34

From Microcenter:
8x 2TB Hitachi Enterprise HDD - $315

From Newegg - not required i just wanted a 4u style server case:
ROSEWILL RSV-L4500 $100
14x Sata cables - 30 bucks


Free
1x 120gb ssd
1x 450watt corsair psu that made funny noises when you move the mouse so it got "tossed"


Total Price: $564.00

That gives me 10tb of usable storage, 24 gb of ram, room for expansion and tons of low power cpu cores to virtualize stuff if i wanted to. I dont though because i have esxi for that.

>>60182686
I did something similar, I bought a used dell server form ebay that had 4 1tb sata hdds for cheap, i put them in my nas and sold off the server.

I only store torrents on them, so I dont care if they die.

Raid will help, but as soon as you get any warnings you should rebuild asap.

>>60183641
This. I'm slowly upgrading my collection to HEVC. It's great.

>>60183632
It's not ready yet. I'll be there when it is.

>>60184165
Didn't think of going back to LGA771 since the wattage seems less than ideal in the long run but I guess if you're ok with it. Electricity costs too much where I live to not care about it for me personally.

>>60180211
I've been thinking about getting printable DVDs for animoo. Yeah, I usually just watch whats hot from the current season, most of the time I don't even finish, but I have a couple of shows that I like to revisit from time to time.

I know HDDs are cheaper by the gb than optical media.

>>60184128
What part of future do you not get? Do you remember a 60 inch is half the price of a 45 inch just 5 ago? I can get 4k 60 inchs for the same price 1080p 60 inches were 5-7 years ago. Maybe even less. I give it 5 years until 4k is a affordable as the 1080 was 5 years ago. Only thinkg holding it back is HD cable jews.

>>60184128
>That's assuming that for your living room/entertainment room a 80+ inch screen is doable or worth it. My living room, a 65" is plenty big enough for the space and is giving you the "movie theater" atmosphere yet your not sitting so close that you'd go blind.
The better the resolution the easier it is in on your eyes. Think eye exams. Tht's also not keeping in mind the TVs wille eventually be built-in the wall in the new construction. I'm a union electrician. It's already evolving constantly.

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>>60184225
I have a lightscribe drive, but I never bought discs for it.

>>60184222
Dude this whole server with 9 case fans, dual xenons, 11 Hdds and 3 SSDs is all running off one 450 watt psu. Electricity costs are minimal.

The idea is you dont need FAST cpu cores, just ECC compatible ones. You can buy super low wattage xenon parts for any generation. I'm upgrading my main ESXi servers to these soon because they're 570 watt instead of 780 watt:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Enterprise-Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Server-2-x-SIX-CORE-PROCESSORS-48GB-RAM-PERC6-2PS-/182330315165?hash=item2a73bbd19d&autorefresh=true

I use my FreeNAS box and ISCSi to provide the storage for my current ESXi servers, so you just get a really shitty hdd to install esxi on and you're good to go.

I need an external storage setup with redundancy but have no experience with RAID setups and NAS at all. I've looked around for hardware aspects of the build, but have no idea about software management aspect of these things apart from knowing about Freenas.

Is there any way to access NAS not through the network, but rather through direct connection? Are there alternative setups apart from NAS that allow this? If it is not possible, how is the NAS connection secured so that only the owner can access it? SSH?

Another thing is reading/writing files. How does it work with NAS? Do I need to download files off the NAS to access them? What about writing to the NAS, is the writing speed as fast as the Ethernet connection allows it?

Overall, are there any solid references/resources that should be read to get understanding of these things?

>>60184263
Well I would hope it would run off of a 450 watt. What matters is idle really and DDR2 and Westmere are much worse in that regard. My C2750 averages 10w even with a load.

>>60184098
>We're talking about normies here, Anon. No one had those.

In that case this discussion is pointless because normies don't get autistic about quality. I know plenty of people who still watch DVDs and even VHS.

>>60184251
Don't bother, takes far too long to print anything on them and discs are very costly compared to regular blank media.

As for OP's question, I have been considering a NAS for some time now.

Maybe a TS-451a or something

>>60184246
>I'm a union electrician. It's already evolving constantly.
Me two buddy. These guys have no clue how much the trade is rapidily involving. New construction commercial is almost always just pipped / flexed by us. The data guys put in all their smart lights in. TV's is the next stop. Great job security.

>>60184346
A lot of normies can tell the difference between VHS and bluray. Quite noticeable. Even grandma doesn't want to watch anything less than DVD unless it's a old movie from she loves.

I don't know a single person who owns a VHS player/tape player aside from novelty or sentimental reasons.

>>60184455
>A lot of normies can tell the difference between VHS and bluray.

I'm not saying otherwise, I'm just saying a lot of people don't care that much.

>>60184478
That's where you're wrong. Even grandma only watchs DVDs or higher. Her VHS is in storage collecting dust. That's both of them, too. They both have bigger screens, too. They care. i don't know SINGLE person watching VHS's or watching anything on a screen smaller than 3- something inches. And when they die, our parents will replace them with the their bluray 1080ps with 40 inch flatscreens. Then we replace when, as the new parents / grandparents with 55 inch 4k OLEDs. It's not stopping. Our kids might even get 60 inch 8ks by the time they move out. And obviously are folks care enough to replace their old archaic mediums.

>>60183822
I feel the same way. I worked out that it's a bit like the Steam problem for me: I spent more time acquiring games than I ever did actually playing them.

>save pictures from TS escorts for years
>never actually call one

>>60182686
Why wouldn't you buy this one instead since it has 64MB cache and SATA 6 for the same price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTJTDGI/

>>60184766

It doesn't matter that much really, you're never going to need Sata 3 with any non-ssd HDD. Just be consistent in what you buy.

>>60183000
If you're not running the tape or blue ray except when you need it why the fuck would you buy a server?

>>60184263
can you a buy a server PC and run whatever OS on it?

never owned one, know nothing about them

4tb costs $170 in Europe

How much is it in America

>>60185061
For the most part.

Running a windows desktop OS on a server platform would be pretty poor. Stick to BSD/Linux, or Windows 2016 if you have to be that guy.

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>>60185082
First 4 results on Amazon.

>>60185197
Well I did some googling, I would assume this Poweredge can run newer versions of Windows Server despite what their support website says. Thanks anyway

>>60181437
HGST 4TB or 6TB

>>60185703
Model?

I don't get it, what are you hoarding and why?

>>60181205
>>60181275
This. When I torrent something to my home server, I keep a copy of it for as long as that server/drive exists. Storage is cheap now and massive, might as well just keep it. I even made an archive of every single .swf file on albinoblacksheep.com and xz'd it because autism.

>>60181437
1 TB HGST or Toshiba

1 TB may be considered too low, but 1TB is reliable

>>60182686
this lad knows

>>60182356
WD Blue's don't have TLER.

>>60181437
2TB refurbished hitachi deathstar ~$45 + external usb3.0 enclosure

>>60180211
Perhaps, but for different reasons. Hoarding flag music is a good idea. I've hoarded a lot of mp3 music, 128b mp3s from 2002 is a waste of space.

I used to hoard divx movies, even burned them to CDs. That was a waste of time, money and space. Perhaps 1080p movies are worth hoarding but I'm not so sure we won't look at those files in a few years and say oh that's not 4k, can't watch that garbage...

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working on getting as much as i can right now, having problems with getting all the weeb shit cause of nyaa but doin the best i can

>>60183228
The most common source of failure is actually rapid shifting temperatures. This is why datacenters spend a ton on keeping the room temperature constant.

>>60186090
I want to start hoarding media because trackers are dropping left and right.
Is usenet still a thing? How good is it for finding media?

>>60186090
>what are you hoarding and why
Games(1st generation ~ 7th generation)
Hentai(Gelbooru siterip/Doujin/Pixiv/DLSite)
Info(Programming/Tech related books/etc)
Software(Windows only)
Movies/Series
Personal Projects
Tons of music.

That's about everything I hoard(32TB).

>Why?
Because of events like this, where bullshit laws cause key sites to be purged. I'm here to make sure that data never disappears. Of course, I'm not distributing this data all by myself. More than likely, I'll get in contact with 1~3 individuals that have the resources/funds to mass distribute it.

Also collecting is fine.
I enjoy it. It's a good feeling knowing I have enough content to last me a life time in case the dark ages of the internet comes. It's like a digital fallout bunker.

Will drives ever go below 1.5¢ per GB again?
Can I trust any 3tb drives? Most notably the Seagate s3000dm's or hgst 7k3000

Torrents don't require trackers, and as long as you have the hash of a torrent, you can continue to keep it alive.

>>60183978
>tfw you will never be this rich

>>60186861
>Gelbooru siterip
gelbooru doesn't allow scat porn though. I hope you also have an archive of scat hentai.

>>60186944
Actually, he's getting them so cheap that in 3-5 years, he can sell them off as "refurbished" for $80-120 bucks which is worst case, $500 loss per year.
This doesn't take into account failures though.

>>60187038
>scat
No.

Someone else is going to have to archive that literal shit.

>>60186861
Why don't you upload everything to Freenet or w/e so it is shared distributively? Is there a proper p2p blockchain file hosting yet?

>>60187185
>Freenet
Slow and outdated, plus heavily monitored by law enforcement.

>Is there a proper p2p blockchain file hosting yet
Nope, though I was considering IPFS.

>>60186870
Hitachi Ultrastar A7K3000 refurd ~2.5 cents a GB

I'd honesly pirate a lot less if mainstream distributors made it easier to legally purchase music and video files.

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I regret every byte of chinese cartoons I've ever deleted now.

>>60184039
I was fine with VHS quality when it was still a big deal. I can watch a VHS today and still enjoy it.

>>60180211

I've been hoarding for 15 years. Just wish I had a way at home to have it all available at once (no I'm not going to set up server racks, too expensive). Also wish I had better archival capabilities, storing media is easy, but collecting up all the websites etc I want is the next step.

>>60187977
This desu. Make it easier for me to own a legal, digital copy and I'll gladly fork money over.

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>>60182686
I assume these wouldn't be a bad deal since they're also manufacturer refurbished and I'm a leaf?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HGST-Ultrastar-7K4000-HUS724030ALE641-0F17731-3TB-64MB-Cache-7200RPM-SATA-III-/201694919367?hash=item2ef5f43ac7:g:3DsAAOSwxKtYAiph

I'm planning to fit 10 4 TB hard drives in my main computer then back them up with the same drive, put these drives in storage

>>60186861
No anime??

make a million mega.nz accounts and upload ur useless non personal data :D

If only I knew I would've archived all of bitgamer. It will never come back. Luckily we have Amazon/Ebay. Support the shitty resellers on the used game market.

Yes. Download as much as you can and when times are dear, share a piece of your stash.

>>60181464
>>60184062
Widdle.exe? I fucking hate the parking feature, it's definitely not good. What do senpai?

Yes anon, it's always a good idea. There's a thread on /out/ about this, I recommend that you guys check it out.
I really want to hoard content, but I have no fucking idea! I have game torrents, a few movies (plus all Top Gear UK seasons and specials in HD), porn, and music. I also have ISOs, and software.
What are some things I should save?

Also in the scenario of an EMT or solar flares perhaps, hard drives are most likely fucked.

>>60180211
You guys missed the party by about 15 years.
You could find anything back when the old p2p non-tracking protocols were still useful. Now they're clogged with all kinds of crap and you can't trust anything on them.

But back then, you could find anything. I've got hundreds of DVDs filled with movies - 2 to 6 movies on each. I currently have 8380 mp3s plus audio books out the wazoo. I've got thousands of software titles in my archives with some very rare and some that still sell for thousands of dollars. And don't get me started on the TBs of "other" stuff that require encryption.

The party's been over for years. Now you're left with just 1 protocol that's worth a damn and even that turns to shit when you're looking for something older than a couple of years.

You should be archiving everything you dl. Only a fool doesn't archive even when I'll admit that not everything is worth archiving. I've deleted some stuff when I found out it was in some other language.

Tl;Dr: you should have been archiving everything the whole time, anon.

>>60186617
>deletes old MP3s
>Can't find replacements.
How did that song go? Shit!
kek.

>>60190996
>I've got thousands of software titles in my archives with some very rare and some that still sell for thousands of dollars
and what are these softwares called?

>>60186617
>>60191026
Do MP3s degrade this bad?

>>60191083
A couple of commercial ECad databases come to mind, right off the top of my head.

Can someone explain current WD Blue to me? Im mostly interested in 4TB ones. Is it true that blue is renamed green and old blues are now purple???

>>60191096
Generally speaking, the older it is, the harder it is to find.
There are thousands of songs from the 60s and 70s that you'll never find a torrent for. Movies too. He's talking about the dated compression. 700MB movies used to be all the rage because everyone would burn them to CD. But that meant some video quality sacrifices. Today, it's not uncommon to find DLs that are 20-30Gb. No video quality sacrifices, but you need multi TB drives to build any substantial archive.

>>60184039
What's funny is Laserdisc barely looked better than VHS, it was basically just for doing perfect freeze frames of Jessica Rabbit's underwear.

>>60191234
Oh okay, I see what you're saying. There is definitely some hard shit to find. I had trouble finding a discography for Lil Boosie.
I guess older shit is better for this reason?

>>60191294
Not better, but imagine yourself 30 years from now, trying to find shit you deleted 30 years ago. Sure, it was just shit tier lossy 256K mp3 format - which is why you deleted it. But now you've got nothing to play at all. And after 30 years, nobody's playing anything you like anymore. You once had it. You deleted it. And now you miss it.

That's what happens to everyone who doesn't hoard their shit.

This is all digital. It takes nothing to hoard. It's not like you're going to fill up your house and garage with mp3s and AVIs and end up sleeping on your back porch.

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>>60182686
FYI; An Uncorrectable bit Error Rate (UER) of 1x10^14 (standard desktop drive) when used in a RAID with anything greater than 10TB means you should use a RAID6 if you want a chance of recovering after a UER.

What are chances that when if PC dies of power surge, for example, it will take all of internal hard drives with it?

>>60191488
High

>>60191488
Depends
SSDs are far more susceptible. Which is why SSD users should have a regular backup scheme that includes partition and format information.

With my 4X RAID boot drive, I've had to recover twice in 2 years just because of simple power outages.
>I really should invest in a decent UPS.

>>60191527
Then external ones are a safer option if you dont use them 24/7?

>>60182686
>you go buy as many of these as you can afford
t. someone selling those things

Also:
>refurbished
nty

>>60181475
Why?

>>60187862
I mean I can get 2tb Hitachis for 1.95, and 3tb Seagates for 1.85 or so.

>>60180211
Yes

>>60191808
are you seriously trying to reason with nigger tripfag?
Don't listen to this aspie. External hdds are same as internal. As long as you handle it properly it's fine.

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So, how much movies/tv shows/gaymes do you have, anon?
This is mine + 60GB music + 30GB ISO images

>>60192147
I have somewhere around 12-14 TB of anime. And other stuff.

>>60192259
You either lying or you grab every BD rip or BD raws available.

>>60191096
>Do MP3s degrade

They don't degrade, and that's not the issue. The oldest MP3's I have was from another era where 128kbit was "acceptable" quality and the default setting in some CD ripping programs. Files that were poor quality then (though they seemed alright at the time) still have the same low quality today.

Though truth be told, MP3s - even though it's garbage compared to a FLAC - have aged "better" than video. Those then standard 700MB sized divx DVD-rips of movies are in my opinion not even close to watchable today. I don't even view DVD as acceptable, rips of them are even worse. I'm not watching that crap. But I can listen to a old MP3 file, the quality isn't as good as a FLAC but it's usable.

>>60191488
>it will take all of internal hard drives with it?
The chances of a power surge doing that is slim to none. What should worry you more in that regard is rapid shifts in temperature. If it's -20C outside and your room temperature inside is 20C and your computer is on and your wife or someone else decides they want fresh air or for some other reason opens all the windows up and leave them open then the chances of several harddrives failing at once is rather high.

>>60192288
I don't delete anything unless I've dropped it (which I rarely do), and I've been accumulating a huge backlog because I don't want to wake up one day to find out a tracker has been taken down or a torrent I wanted is no longer seeded. Some releases also take up huge amounts of space.

>>60192299
Well if you want to talk about modern rips instead a while ago I ripped the DVDs I've had for years of Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars and the quality is really good; better than what you'd find kn YouTube.

Have 24TB server which includes an anime backlog into the years and planning on bumping it up into 32TB array shortly as I've slowly been replacing my movie collection with x265 files.

Always laughed at on here when told I keep such a large back up of files myself even when torrents are a thing.

Feels great and so bad at the same time.

>>60192147
~200GB in videos.

I'd have to check how much I have in games.

Most of the important and worthwhile shit are free.
Protip:[spoiler]anime isn't important[/spoiler]

>>60181437
Whatever you do, do NOT buy seagate, unless you like corruption within 3 years of course.

>>60192506
What is and isn't important depends on the person.

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>>60185082
>4tb costs $170 in Europe
What?

>>60192663
Not that anon but 4TB is 140-170 in Russia. You might not call it a EU but shit sucks yo.

>>60191368
Indeed anon, thanks. I am saving everything that I like.

>>60192299
I have some old ass rap music, and it's not bad. Quality is not the best nowadays but it's better then nothing.
Where can I get FLAC? There's literally no FLAC for hip-hop music.

>>60192663
http://www.currency-converter-calculator.com/convert/USD/EUR/170

I'm up to about 16 TB in chaturbate recordings and I recently picked up an LTO 5 tape drive to start archiving the less interesting or older stuff
trying to come up with a system of organization and creating thumbnail sheets

What's the best way to hoard data?
I don't know much about Raid to be honest.
Can't I just backup by copy & pasting all the data to another disk, which would then be put offline. So basically each disk in my system would have an offline version, stored in ideal conditions.

What is the cheapest M-Disc BDXL burner and M-Disc BDXL brand?

>>60192846
Check on Ebay, the LG ones are like 30 bucks. I might pick one up.
Can they also work with blurays?

>>60192840
Main drive + external backup drive is the simplest and cheapest method, and avoids the problem of having all your eggs in one basket.

I recommend a syncing program like FreeFileSync. Pay careful attention to the settings though.

>>60192808
>chaturbate recordings
Who the fuck wants that garbage.

>>60192983
So basically what I said? I can use an external enclosure for data transfer, or maybe one of those hotswap bays.
Label the HDDs, and store in a anti-static bag in a box in the closet. I could also do backups with M-Discs for more important data, or for shit I really don't want to lose.
>FreeFileSynce
>Pay careful attention
Why?

Thanks anon.

>>60182686
This is the only real answer

>>60193044
>Why?
So it doesn't do things you don't want it to do, like two-way syncing or deleting files into the recycle bin.

>>60192808
>16 TB in chaturbate recordings
I feel so bad for you.

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>>60192147
>>60192486

Top kek
This isn't even one full series

>>60193099
I see man, I'll always check and make sure. Appreciate the help!

>>60193110
I need this anon, I miss the old Top Gear UK.

What are you piratefags even still pirating for? Its easy to stream whatever music I want nowadays and I don't watch anime so I don't bother with that shit anymore.

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>>60193110
>literal shit in 4k
lmaoing @ ur life

>>60192808
WTF? How are you recording them in real time?

>>60189380
So 20 HDDs basically?

>>60193144
A major public tracker of anime, music, games and porn just went off the air permanently. And obviously this isn't the first time something like this has happened. Unless you are maximum normalfag the shit you need isn't always going to be available on the internet.

>private tracker mustard race

>>60193144
Because the streaming services don't always have everything and if the songs ever get removed from the service for whatever reason, you're shit out of luck.

buy a bunch of 8tb seagate extrenals (cheapest at like 150) and extract drives
then put them a raid 10 and start hoarding

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>>60193127
t-there you go

>recommending hitachi and/or seagate
Aren't they the two worst HDD manufacturers in terms of reliability tho?

>>60193308
I only reccomend based on price
should be raid 10ing it anyway, shithead

>>60193151
Top Gear was literal shit for the first 2-3 years, and then it got better. There are episodes you can't even torrent, and no one really has. I've thought about buying DVDs, and distributing it, but ehh.
I have the space, so I'm going to archive it all in the highest quality.

>>60193127
I believe I got the torrents from rartv, but I doubt anyone is seeding 4k anymore.

>>60193323
Whoah, no need to get so defensive there, poorfag. Was just making an observation.

>>60180211
> Is this the time to start hording content?
Storing AND sharing is better than hoarding. If you just hoard, the information will die eventually, and it's quite likely that it happens during your lifespan unless you have very solid archival practices.

>>60193340
>poorfag
>investing thousands into storage systems
???

>>60193308
Seagate has a bit of a reputation, but Hitachi makes some damn good drives and regularly ranks pretty high in the reliability charts you see floating around.

>>60193358
>recommending storage based on price
>not a poorfag
?

>>60193303
My Top Gear comolete is 300+ GB

>>60193329
I have almost all the episodes, even the ones from the 90s. I probably have all of them.

>>60180211
I have an 500gb external filled with my favorite movies and games, but that's about it. Most of my favorite games I own physical anyway. If shit ever becomes truly inaccessible (not some shit public tracker going down) I think I'm smart enough to find shit on MEGA or something. Or I'll just get usenet.

>>60193397
Where did you source them?

I was going individually since season 19 or so, but then pulled down the big ass compilation off reddit. I'm sure if there was more, it would be in that one, but it's missing quite a few.

>>60193308
Maybe that is true for Seagate in particular.

But the difference in failure rate of the more "reliable" desktop drives isn't at all so low that you can safely ignore making backups.

And the failure rate on most Seagate drives doesn't appear to be so high that it changes very much about how much you pay over time.

Basically, have a backup scheme of sorts, anything up to to full cloud replication.

>>60183000
>$1500 ... tape drive

WTF

>>60193477
I made a thread on Reddit, and someone gave me the link.
It literally has everything...
I would link you but I am on mobile at the moment.

>>60182686
>refurbished

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP I BOUGHT ONE OF THESE AND IT SAYS CAUTION IN CRYSTAL DISK INFO

>>60182356
>>60183000
>$75 for WD Blue 4TB
Link?

>>60183738
human eye can only see like 1100p

>>60193575
*Citation needed*

>>60193660
It's a meme you dip

>>60193660
The human eye can only see 25fps.

>>60193721
The human eye can only see 12.5fps and interpolates the rest

>>60193308
All drives that have ever failed on me without a warning were Seagate drives.

>>60180211
https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/peer/
They colaborate with gvts and have tcp dumps as proof
I set up a a few torrent boxes for fakku and other sites yesterday and got spotted.
just dl through xdcc if you want animu/gamu/pornu and a message to other good guys living in yurop : don't set any mirrors up, it's not worth it now that third-parties are aggressively tracking us.

Been hoarding anime since 1998.

Kind of worried about the old binders full of CD-Rs from the early years, but then again the quality of those old *.rm and *.avi files was shit and the fansubs were sloppy.

I guess they would be a historical curiosity for people interested in the old school fansub groups.

All modern stuff is on external HDs, of course, but the old 1998-2005 stuff is just gathering dust in binders. The data will eventually decay due to disc rot.

>>60193946
Yeah those old rips do have historical value.

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>>60193979

Historic meme value maybe.

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>>60193979
>>60193946
>anime
>historical value

>>60193155
rtmpdump + scripts that run every 100 seconds

>>60194131
Just because something triggers you doesn't mean it doesn't have historical value, dumbfuck millennial.

>>60194131

The original post said "historic curiosity" not "value".

>>60194212
>t. millennial

>>60194131
You know what else has historical value? The Pompeii Shitposting wall.

>>60194228
I'm not a millennial. Now fuck off back to le reddit or whereever the fuck you came from.

>>60194212
>>60194248
Dunno man, the only one triggered here seems to be you.

>>60194256
You are lying.

I'm thinking of buying a 2tb WD Red drive mainly for archiving, but I also would use it to play few larger games that wouldn't fit on my ssd. Does the slower rpm really make a difference compared to 7200rpm?

>>60194412
>Does the slower rpm really make a difference compared to 7200rpm?
For gaming? Yes. For anything else? Not really.

>>60194587
Alright, do you think it could cause stuttering in games? Also, is there a difference in 2,5 and 3,5 drives, like sound or reliability?>

>>60194705
Probably not since the drives are still fast enough. You might have a problem with huge textures, though.

>>60181290
My tranny porn resides in a folder called "trap"

>>60194705
It depends on how much data the game you play needs to load while in game. Most likely it'd just make the loading times slightly longer.

>>60194764
>>60194786
Alright, thanks

>>60194705
There won't be stuttering, but there will be longer loading times with slower spin rates. There's no difference between sizes apart from making sure it will fit into your case.

If you want to game on a HDD, WD black is probably your best bet.

The only thing I care is libgen, but I don't where can I upload it to host it p2p style. Freenet?

>>60195228
Thanks, so WD Red is an option, but there's also a 2,5" 7200rpm hgst for the same price. Can't decide, but I guess hgst could be better if I decide to play few games.

Piracy started with people simply recording songs off the radio or copying one another's VHS tapes in person. Sharing content in person etc.

We are pretty much going back to this in another form. You'll just trade external HDD's with friends to share content once the trackers are down.

Sucks for people on this board that don't have friends.

>>60195385
Aren't reds intellipower?

>>60195423
They are, that's why I've been hesitating and I'm not sure which to get. As far as I know wd reds are better quality, but I might be wrong.

>>60195488
The intellipower on the reds probably aren't as aggressive as the greens of old. The fact that they have a longer warranty pretty much gives assurance that they're going to last longer. Blacks are still your best bet and blues are just rebranded greens nowadays.

>>60195488
Intellipower means variable rate and usually slow. If you want to game, you want 7200 at least. Or you can go with something that's not WD. Toshiba has 2TB ones running at 7200.

>>60195488
>As far as I know wd reds are better quality
Red doesn't mean better quality. Every WD color has a specific purpose to it. Blues are for regular usage, reds are optimized for reads, purples are optimized for writes such as CC camera footage. Green is for low power consumption, and black is for high performance.

http://hddmag.com/2016/11/western-digital-hdd-colors-explained.html

>>60195542
>>60195618
>>60195753
WD Reds and HGST have 3 year warranty, while others have 2, so they probably are better quality and last longer. I think I'm going to get the HGST one with 7200rpm. Thanks for the help.

>>60186861
Funny story from a guy who's old as fuck. Back in my day (yes, I said I was old as fuck) the happening computer was the Apple II. Everything was 5.25" floppy discs that held 160K (or some shit like that). Had a big-ass file cabinet to hold all those goddamn floppies and had literally thousands of them. This was LONG before the internet and even before dial-up bulletin boards. Want to know how we pirated shit back then?
You'd meet others who had Apple IIs and they knew others, etc. So you would get a list of names and addresses. And you would make a printed list of all the shit you had in your collection and send it to the others on the list. They would do the same. Then you would exchange lists. Eventually you would send the other guy the stuff you had that he wanted and he would send you the stuff you wanted. That's how it worked. And surprisingly, I never once had any problems with this system not working. That's how I ended up with thousands of discs of various shit (games mostly).
So maybe the future will end up looking like the past, where we all just exchange a list of have/want and then send each other hard drives in the mail, etc. Who knows.

>>60195983
That's so cyberpunk

>>60180328
Why don't you compress it with RAR? It will help save some space.

>>60181080
/thread

>>60182686
Need some good rack for it

>>60180328
>plenty of comfy of games that are usually a pain in the ass to find
i can see only 2010s garbage games. no way you're above 14 yo

>>60195983
Like torrents right now

>>60196414
>using proprietary format
that's haram

>>60196607
Who gives a fuck?

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>>60196414
>WinRAR
>2017

>>60196414
Why not just use NTFS's native compression?

>>60196645
How?

>>60195983
now you can store all your floppys on a memory card which have the size of a fingernail and can transfer them in several seconds
I wonder if in 10-20 years we will can store tens of TB on something similar

>>60196638
>compression
>2017
It's like you don't have unlimited storage space.

>>60182430
How do you know?

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>Samsung and Hitachi made the best hard drives
>they're both gone now
>we're stuck with Shitgate and WhatDe
>HGST is the last decent manufacturer but with their prices, they might go down any moment
just fucking wake me up!

>>60193308

hitachi - or HGST as they are usually called - drives are good, specially the enterprise drives that you can get used.

seagate makes the worst drives. they had a line of deathstar 3TB's that had a failure rate of 40%.

There is even a class action lawsuit against them because of their extreme failure rates on harddrives.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
http://www.eteknix.com/3tb-seagate-hard-drives-43-failure-rate-constant-use/

And it's even worse, I have 2 RAID6 arrays and I like to mix drives because of the different failure rates (so all drives don't fail at the same time). 4 of 4 3TB Seagates died giving those a failure rate of 100%.. and it's even worse. I sent the first that failed back under warranty. I got a refurbished drive back, dead on arrival. I didn't bother to send the rest back.

Seagate is the worst.

>>60196708
Use 7zip faggot.

>>60196757
Make me, faggot.

>>60196666
>right click drive, properties (or right click folder, properties, advanced if you don't wanna compress the whole drive)
>tick "compress to save space" or whatever it says in english
>apply to subfolders and files
>wait for 6 gorillion hours while it compresses the data
And you get transparent file compression plus cool looking blue filenames as a bonus.

>>60196763
>cool looking blue filenames as a bonus.
can you show us an example? i never used this and you made me curious

>>60196742
Just buy Hitachi death stars at $50/2TB

>>60196744
I had two of those 3TB seagate mybook drives fail and on the 3rd refurb I didn't even bother using it.

>>60196787
https://lmgtfy.com/?t=i&q=windows+blue+filenames

>>60196856
>not including internet explainer
2/10

>>60196795
i can buy a few hundred 3TB Hitachi from the proven series and for a very decent prize so i won't run out of the disk space anytime soon

>>60196522
>Arcanum
>Cultures
>D2 LOD
>Disciples
>Dungeon Siege
>Dungeon Siege 2
>Fallout 2
>gothic 3
>Homm3
>Lptpr 2
>Planescape torment
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
>Serious Sam - Second encounter
>Civ 4
>Stronghold Crusader
>Kotor 2
>Oblivion
>Titan Quest
>Tropico 2
>UT04
>warcraft 3
>Mechwarrior 4
I know you don't play good video games, but cmon.
I grew up with this shit you autistic virgin. For 90s I have a Retropie. What kind of obscure garbage do you need me to have in there, so that I may receive your respect (which I REALLY crave :^)

>>60197022
None of those are particularly hard to find tho.

>>60197083
Maybe hard wasn't the right word. Not everything has had a GOG.com release, therefore not only you need the base game, you also usually need various patches/hotfixes/mods and whatnot to make it playable, which really gets annoying and a huge timesink after a while. Therefore everything that might be needed is already in the respective folders.

>>60197022
you know what's really hard to find?
Diablo II, version 1.06 or older

>>60197181
http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=diablo+2+patch+1.06

>>60196708
>we have more storage
>so we should waste more
shitty wasteful mentality

>>60196695
Transfer speeds are still ass

Call me when you can copy 1TB of pirated shit in 5 mins

>>60197265
it's obvious that you never really tried to find one otherwise you'd know wat the problem is and wouldn't try to be a smartass

>>60197291
If you're talking about finding a suitable crack, I could probably find one within 5 minutes, you cuck.

>>60197344
you don't get it at all
that's okay, you never really tried because you never really needed to. but stop pretending that you know anything about the problem
also
>cuckposting

>>60197409
Can't you just install it from cd and dl a 1.06 patch?

>>60197409
Yeah, go on with your little "you just don't get it" spiel. You're just shit at finding shit online.

>>60197442
all the CDs will have 1.07 by default, except for the very first releases. but good luck finding these
and no, you can't downgrade from any D2 + LOD version
>>60197449
your attempt in acting like you know shit about things you've never heard of until now is pure comedy
looks like retards here need to pretend to be experts in everything

If only samsung still made harddrives, someone save us from these garbage models

Got 33TB

>>60196744
Hitachi>HGST>Samsung(external)>WD(black)>...>toshiba>seagate

>>60198664
put the WD near the bottom of the list. and Samsung last series of 1TB/2TB drives were pure quality
also external Toshibas are even more worthless than Seagates

>>60198664
This is bait, right

>>60198869
No, it is fact.
Every company with any large data storage agrees.

The only reason Seashit are even high on charts is because 1) they are cheap in bulk orders and 2) it is just another drive to pop in the rack.
But as they say, you get what you pay for.
Seagates are worthless for anyone with half a brain.
The hassle simply isn't worth it, not when it is a basic guarantee that it will fail considerably quicker than every other drive manufacturer.

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>>60192147
This is just music videos.

>>60199168
Unironically kill yourself.

>>60192147
~270GB of music, ~400GB of games and two close to full 4TB drives of animu and other cartoons

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>>60199432
no bully pls