/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>heroes of the storm
>starcraft 2
>civ 5
>other not too demanding shit
>on a budget
rx 550? Or should I wait and see how the rx560 turns out?

>>60175515
You can get by the with 550, especially if you are willing to turn down graphics settings on more demanding games.

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>>60175293
>posting misleading statistics

>>60175293
wait so then why is the 2016 2tb barracuda the besty rated drive?

do you need a mount for your SSD or do most modern motherboards allow you to mount it without a 3rd party mount?

I want to get a SSD but on amazon some come with a mount and some don't.

Asking again.

Can someone reccomend me a good mATX case? I'm building an mATX computer for the first time. Will take any suggestions.

>>60175939
you only need to run a SATA cable to your motherboard

the mounts that come with some SSDs allow you to fit a 2.5" drive into a mount designed for 3.5" drives. most cases have enclosures for 2.5" drives so they're usually not necessary. check your case.

>>60175972
budget?

>>60175515
Look for sales on the RX 460; it is faster than the rx 550, & often drops to $70 with MIR.

>>60176017
Around $50-$70. Willing to go higher but won't go above $100.

>>60176068
Fractal Design Define S. Worth every penny.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-850-evo-500gb-internal-serial-ata-solid-state-drive-for-laptops/1662009.p?skuId=1662009

Is this for a desktop too

It says "for laptops" so i'm confused

>>60176122
it's for both.

it's also overpriced. get it from amazon.

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Please critique my build /pcbg/

My goal is to build an entry-level gaming PC for under $1000AUD, with decent scope to upgrade in the future.

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions in the past couple threads.

>>60176197
this is the first time I see a build on here and can't think of anything. good job.

>>60176210
Awesome, that's the best feedback I could've hoped for. Thanks.

>>60176172
But Amazon has it for the exact same price

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OBRE5UE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1WYKKEPTQY5T1&coliid=I1A4M4TJHG5BKA&psc=1

Cooler artic cooling 33 or cooler artic cooling 12 CO? For ryzen cpu. Tight budget and i have only options between those 2 because i live in shit country

Also is corsair 650 w enough for ryzen.and rx r480? Thanks in advance

>>60176197
looks ok, but try to find 2x4 RAM if you can.

>>60176303
Ok sure, pardon my ignorance but why is that better than 1x8?

>>60176283
If you're on a tight budget then why are you buying a Ryzen X? Get a cheaper chip, the free cooler, and clock it.

>Also is corsair 650 w enough for ryzen.and rx r480?
Way more than enough. You could conceivably come down 100W and still not trouble a decent PSU.

>>60176328
I already got ryzen and rx 480, whats left of budget is very tight, so which would you prefer over those 2 coolers i posted?

>>60176328
>why are you buying a Ryzen X? Get a cheaper chip, the free cooler, and clock it.
There is no non-x version of the 1400x and 1500x

>Also is corsair 650 w enough for ryzen.and rx r480? Thanks in advance
even 500w is enough

>>60176313
When you have 2 sticks (or more) of RAM, you get the benefit of dual channel: double the bandwidth. There usually isn't much of a price difference between 1 vs 2 sticks (for a same total size) to justify picking one. It benefits pretty much everything you do slightly, even gaming.

>>60176197
Looks good, could downgrade the PSU to a 500w if you want to save further money.

>>60176354
Sounds like someone fell in to the 1600X trap.

>>60176404
I agree I could do with less watts. Someone told me not to buy Corsair PSU, but they're the only cheaper ones on PcPartPicker Australia. Are Corsair PSUs really so bad?

>>60176440
>Are Corsair PSUs really so bad?
Some are some aren't. Reviews are your friend, Anon.

>>60176440
I'm running a Corsair CXM 650W for 8 years now, zero issues.

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Not really a build but a repurpose for my old PC.
I want to turn it into a file server and seedbox. Which means I need it to run quiet and up all day. I'd also like to put it in as small a case as possible.

Current spec:
>i5 4570, stock cooler
>MSI B85M-G43 (mATX 245*245 mm)
>Corsair VS450 PSU
>1 3.5" drive and 2 2.5" drives

What kind of cooling should I set up for this, and what's the smallest case for it?
Budget is maybe $80

>>60175848
I had 2 toshiba 3tb, one failed in a month
1 Seagate failed im a year
1tb WD i bought in 2009 still works, 55000 hours on

>>60175848
>WDC being that high

But what of the Seagate meme?

>>60176440
The VS is bad (but not blow-up-your-machine-even-while-not-under-load bad).
CX and TX series are meh.
RMx, HX, and AX are tier 1, A+, whatever other terms you want. Of course, they don't make them themselves, so things can change if the OEM changes, but as of now they're about as good as you can expect.

Remember to only buy the grey labeled ones. The lines with colors are old, and some are really bad quality.

>>60176638
>What kind of cooling should I set up for this, and what's the smallest case for it?
File servers and seedbox don't need enormous amount of cpu, even those running windows.
Try to downclock heavily the i5 for power saving & heat reasons. Putting a custom fan curve to lock the fan to extremely low rpm as long as it's under 60°C would be pretty easy to do, and in fact you could even just unplug the fan (but leave it there for the heatsink) and have acceptable temperatures, assuming you have heavily downclocked the cpu and assuming the mobo lets you touch the cpu voltage.

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Will this play bf1 on ultra?

>>60176785
Buy a R5 1600 and get a better graphics card.

I'm new to PcPartsPicker. Is anyone else noticing duplicate parts for totally different prices? I just shaved almost a hundred dollars off my build, going back over each part I'd selected and often finding the exact thing cheaper, just further down the listing.

>>60176888
>not sorting by price and setting filters

Ok guys having some old hard drive into new build confusion here.

Will I be able to reinstall windows on a new hard drive and still have everything else look/run exactly on the new build as it was on my current PC? If I reinstall windows 10 on my new hard drive what happens to the old install of windows that was on there before, will I need to manually delete that? Will windows 10 automatically detect my old drivers and delete them and install the new ones?

First time I've moved an old hard drive to anew build without fragmenting/wiping it clear beforehand. Shit's confusing yo.

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I plan on playing Resident Evil REmake and 0 remaster on this as well as emulate Dolphin and PCSX2. I don't care about cemu.

Budget is ~$800
How will this do? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNFwXH

>>60176888
Usually has to do with older/newer version of the same model having different part #s. When this happens the old part# that is no longer being manufactured tends to gradually increase in price from resellers who are hoping to catch suckers, whereas the new parts stay at proper market price.

This become obvious when looking at discotinued products that PCPP will list as 5x+ the original price.

>>60176920
If you have a retail copy of windows, you shouldn't need to reinstall the OS.
You should uninstall all drivers and reinstall the new ones necessary. Windows isn't going to pull your new GPU driver out of thin air.

>>60176990

old hard drive* not new one

>>60176920

I'm swapping out the mobo and cpu from a i5 3570K to a Ryzen 1600 though, I heard that'll be too big a jump to run without re-installing windows

I'm buying an SSD but I'm a bit of a luddite when it comes to types. I'm looking at a 2.5" version and a M.2 version of what appears to otherwise be the same thing. Is the M.2 typically a superior option? They are essentially the same price btw.

>>60177035

Completely fucked that linking up there, just swap the posts around.

So basically if I need to, I can reinstall Windows 10 on my old hard drive sitting in the new build then download the rest of the necessary drivers myself without any issue?

>>60176761
I'll see if it can cap it at 1.5GHz.
Should I use something other than a stock cooler? The fan is always on by default, it'd be nice if It's more quiet at lower speeds.

>>60177072
If you have a Retail copy of Windows, there shouldn't be an issue. Why would you need to reinstall the OS if the only thing that's changing is the hardware underneath it? Why can't you uninstall the drivers now, swap over, and install the new ones?
If your copy is OEM or a W10 digital license granted after upgrading from 7, you may be legally boned, and MS will demand you buy another copy of Windows.

>>60177066
M.2 is just nice because it doesn't need any cables, but you have to be careful to make sure your motherboard will have the right socket type.

2.5" will work on any motherboard made in the last 6 years at least.

Performance-wise there is no difference.

Should I upgrade my i5-2500k OC'd at 4.5ghz?

I only plan on 1080p gaming and I'm going to get either a RX 480 or GTX 1060.

>>60177119

Yeah I'll be upgrading from Windows 7 to 10. I heard that swapping out the mobo and cpu will often times require a reinstall of Windows. Swapping out a GPU etc is supposed to be fine but apparently swapping from intel to AMD and changing motherboard etc. will require a new install.

I'm going to be using a friend's Windows 10 USB, then just not activating it or activating via crack. Will that work?

>>60177159
No. Unless you want a newer platform.
I myself have a 2550K. I pored over the benchmarks to see what my CPU could support without bottlenecks while completely OC'ed, and the limit was the RX480/1060. There is occasionally a bottleneck there, but it's very slight and not constant. With DX12, it will be even less of an issue.
Only upgrade if you're looking at 1070-class performance.

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>>60175293
>using hard drives for anything other than external backup solutions
ishygddt

>>60177165
>will require a new install.
iirc, you don't really need a "new install". You copy just ceases to be "legitimate" and isn't activated once the microcode in the motherboard doesn't match what's in their servers. The machine still turns on and can be used, but it will nag you to buy a copy.

Is this a good cpu? Why is it so cheap?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007H29FPA/?tag=pcpapi-20

I'm using a 3rd world currency. An MSI 580 8GB is currently priced at 773 ($430). I saw Sapphire 580 8GBs going for ~660 ($367) but they're currently out of stock. Are the extra 113 ($63) worth to pay for the MSI model over the Sapphire one?

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Would a single fan header handle at least 4 or 5 fans rated at 0.20A?

>>60177393
Because even a $40 celeron beats it in single core performance.

>>60177399
Fuck no it's not, a difference that large is ridiculous in all but a few cases.

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I showed /v/ my build and they bullied and teased me. what is wrong with it?

>>60177445
It's a Xeon, single core performance doesn't matter, those are used for servers, video editing or 3D rendering.

>>60177487
>ryzen
>amd video card
>G.SKILL ram
>using a 212 heatsink from 2010

I pointed out a few things wrong

>>60177487
>16gb of ram is nearly $200
holy shit what the fuck happened

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Acer KG240 24" Full HD FreeSync Display Monitor

Is it worth it?

>>60177487
get non-X 1600
get a B350 mobo
ignore the shills

>>60175293
>HOI4
>Civ VI
>Other strategy games
>first time build
This shit be CPU demanding but all budget builds are GPU oriented. What do? Ryzen?

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>>60177508
this is my other possible build. look how much more it is

>>60175515
I think the RX550 is terribly overpriced. It should be a $40-$60 card but is instead $80?
You could get an RX460 on sale for $60-$85 pretty often.

The RX560 is more worth the money if it winds up being $100 or slightly over, even if it's overkill for your needs.
Also consider a 1050Ti if it's on sale like $100-$115. They're not worth it at $130+.

>>60177525
Smartphones.

>>60177558

Don't listen to that intel shill, the Ryzen is a perfectly capable CPU. If your alternative is an i7 7700K then I recommend getting the Ryzen 1700K or 1800K. Other than that the build looks fine.

It may be worth waiting to see how the Vega performs before getting the graphics card, though if it doesn't then the 1070 is a good alternative, it has some compatibility issues with Ryzen on a few games but nothing really worth disregarding for

>>60177525
Flare X happened
>>60177487
Get samsung 2400 sticks and OC. it's literally all the same chips, samsung just does not test at voltage above 1.2
Either go all out on Taichi/Crosshair for dem VRMs or don't bother with X370. B350 has the same overclock options.
>NZXT
>EVGA

>>60177487
1600X is a waste of money. If you want Ryzen 6 core, go 1600.
Do you actually need X370, or are you buying it "just in case" and never actually make use of it?
Buy cheaper memory. Infinity Fabric benefits (like everything does), but not enough to justify 3200, imo. Go 2667.
The 580 is a poor choice over the 1060, with its obscene power draw in exchange for case-by-case improvement.
Pretty sure you can get the Supernova G3 for the same money, no?

>>60177558
>Spending $80 on a heatsink to keep Flaming Lake under control

why do people do this

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How prominent is the AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU bug? One anon yesterday said it was "rare" and only noticed in rise of the tomb raider and rocket league, but I'm still on the edge about this. Trying to pair Ryzen 5 1600 with GTX 1070

>>60177487
Well /v/ is retarded.
Though that's not bad.

I'd change the cooler to a non-meme one that is quieter. CM pro air 4 or whatever the fuck it's called, or the Cryorig H7 if you can wait for them to mail you a bracket.
Le Grand Macho is a good option which comes with a bracket if you'd like a fuckhuge heavy heatsink.
That RAM is super expensive. Yeah it's verified at those speeds for Ryzen but.. I'd get something cheaper even if it might only run at 2933 and maybe only 2666 for a while.

And you could use those RAM savings to get a 500GB+ SSD.

I want to upgrade from my shit setup (i7 870, HD7870) to a Ryzen 5 1600 + ASUS Dual OC 1070. My only concern is that the CPU could act as a bottleneck. Would that be the case here?

I mainly play Overwatch which is not an intensive game by any means. I want to upgrade to a 144hz monitor and eventually SLI.

>>60177629
can you give me examples of ram that use Samsung 2400

So I need a pc part list making since I have no idea where to start
>linux support (fedora)
>gaming (CIV, CS:GO, GMOD, RUST)
>£1000
>all parts on amazon UK (prime)
>The smaller the better
>quite a hot room so cooler is also better
post a bitcoin address with your list and if it looks good and meets spec I'll give you a fiver in bitcoin

>>60177654
I mean THE samsung ram like M378A1K43BB2-CRC

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>>60177643
>Spending $80 on a heatsink to keep Flaming Lake under control
>why do people do this
Because they have no other choice. delidlake needs a $80+ cooler to keep it cool.

>>60177647
Seems to happen the majority of times with games using DX12, Vulkan, and Gameworks, but not all the time. I have not seen cases of it causing a problem outside of those.
Rocket League was another example, but I heard that one got fixed already. That one was DX9.
There are definitely many more cases than just Tomb Raider.

I'd really wait for Vega. Even when it does work fine, like in BF1, AMD still has better frame pacing.
Frame pacing is more important than averages as long as you're over 60.

>>60177700
Do we have a release date for the vega yet?

>>60177709
We just know it's Q2. So within 2 months. Hopefully May. Pretty sure google should say that. It's been known it'd be Q2 2017 for like over half a year now.

I urgently need a good budget laptop under 700$

>Requirements:
Fast w/SSD and preferably and i7, but an i5 would be fine
Fuck the graphics, I don't care
Good battery life
Portable

Pls help, very thanks

Having trouble deciding on a good B350 mATX motherboard to pair with a Ryzen 5 1600 + RX580 (TBD)

Is the MSI Mortar Arctic solid? Seems like it has good build quality and decent features plus I'm going for Black/White color scheme.

>>60177721
Well I just started getting into pc building a month ago so I didn't even know what i was doing up until now. Besides, there's always the price problem looming since my current build is already stacking up to $1200 in >fucking leaves

>>60177750
If you're the guy I recommended Lenovo to earlier I stand by that. And many around here will praise the Thinkpads particularly.

Would it be better to invest in Seagate HDDs or Western Digital HDDs based on the failure rate of that chart posted a few posts after the OP?

First PC build here and have a couple questions.

This is what I have picked out so far...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCYp4C

I have some friends in the know that are pushing for an intel, but all over the board i see people shit on them. I am interested in power, and can pay a little more for it. I am near computer illiterate so im a little scared of over clocking. Could you help me out? what I want to do it...

Gaming over 144 fps AAA titles.
I need to use the case in the link, already own it, like it, but its empty.
I need to be able to pick everything up at either FRY'S or Microcenter since I absolutely need a PC by saturday, unless the parts can be found cheaper on amazon.

I also MUST use Windows 10 of some kind for work. Which one do you guys recomend. I have been using 10 home since it came out, but I would consider moving over to Pro. Dont yell at me for windows plz no bully.

Thanks in advance /pcbg/, im sure you are flooded with noobs like me, and your wisdom and time is greatly appreciated.

>>60177528
>$200 for a 24" 1080p monitor in 2017

Lol no

>>60177803
Forgot TB hard drive, sorry.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wz4XGf

>>60177750
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315779

15 inch may or may not be portable to you.
I have no idea what the battery is like.

>>60177777
>77777
lucky

>>60177803
Why 1080p? Why not 1440p?

>I need to be able to pick everything up at either FRY'S or Microcenter
This is a requirement too hard to help you out on since we don't know what's in stock at your fucking microcenter or frys you tard

>>60177821
What better options are there for 144?

>>60177777
Thanks for the recommendation and for the quints, yeah, I'm that guy, unfortunately I can't seem to find that one in my country
>>60177835
This one also seems very good

>>60175293
Why isn't the GTX 1070 worth ?

>>60177764
If you are looking to save money, buy a prebuilt with standardized components. You will save a shitton, and the only thing holding a machine like it back is a better PSU. Can sometimes see 7th-gen i5s at $400.

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I'm wanting an upgrade on my graphics card because the 200 series I have is pretty shit. I was looking at a 570x, but I'm not too sure what would be the best as I don't want to end up bottlenecking a new card too bad.

My purpose is gaymes on Steam and I have around 200 to throw at this

>need a new pc
>see prebuilt pc for $1000
>want to save some money
>pick the cheapest similar parts i can find on pcpartpicker
>$950
what reason is there to build nowadays?

>>60177839
>This is a requirement too hard to help you out on since we don't know what's in stock at your fucking microcenter or frys you tard


Sorry mate, finger got ahead of me. im located outside of Duluth / atlanta. I can check whenever a part is recommended to see if its in stock, i can do some of the legwork. Again, my apologies.

>>60177066
They don't tend to perform any different. Theoretically M.2 will be faster in the future, but no one is making them that fast yet.

If you get to choose between the two, I'd get the M.2, just because it won't take up a Sata slot or a drive bay.

>>60177849
>Why isn't the GTX 1070 worth?
The extra cost of Gsync makes it not worthwhile for the performance you get at the combined cost. You need at least a 1080 for Gsync to somewhat become worth it.

Better off using the savings to get a 1440p Freesync monitor instead.
If you have a 60hz monitor, it's stupid amounts of overkill. If you already have a Gsync monitor...
Holy fuck the line right after that explain all that?
>1060 & 1070 are worth considering if you already have a Gsync monitor.

>>60177893
see >>60175293
>Stop fucking confusing any M.2 drive with NVMe. M.2 is a form factor

>>60177875
I don't believe the best you could do only saved $1000.

>>60176930
bump?

Asus Dual GTX 1070:
>matches colour scheme
>$50 cheaper
Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 1070:
>3 fans
>higher clocks
I have no idea which I should go for, they both seem decent, and since the build is Black primary, White accents, the GPU might be a bit overpowering for the white.
>being autistic

>>60177803
>Gaming over 144 fps AAA titles.
Prepare to be disappointed. Games aren't designed to be run at those framerates, so in many games you're not going to get 144fps no matter the hardware or the settings.

>>60176930
An RX570 does like 120fps on RE7, so I imagine that remake will do fine as well.
Really it's overkill for your use case. A 1500X would be fine but a 1600 hardly costs more, so go for it.

>>60178034
I can settle for just OW and TF2 and other simple looking games running that smooth then. As long as things like DOOM can run at high over 60, I will be ok.

>>60177925
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-120gb-solid-state-drive-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/5727100.p
>comes with mouse, keyboard, a virus, and a free game
>two day shipping
i mean, i'd like to build my own computer, but whats the point? the parts would take weeks to ship and i would probably end up paying the same amount

is the Asus F541UV-56A92CB4 15.6" i5-6200U 8GB 256GB SSD a good laptop?

>>60178034
This.
Really belongs in the OP, but there's no room and lots don't read it.

>>60178053
An overclocked 1060 or RX580 runs OW. TF2 at 300fps+... and Doom at like 90+.
Why did you not bother to look at benchmarks? Could have easily saved yourself $200.

Seriously, go 1440p. You are vastly underestimating how powerful GPUs are today and how much power games take. A 6 year old 7970 still keeps up with games from the past year fine except for like GR Wildlands which is unoptimized garbage, and Dishonored 2.

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>>60178080
Damn son, free virus? Dope

>>60178104
>i5-6200U
I don't even want to know what this is. It sounds awful.

>>60178080
Getting a MOBO that isn't shit, getting a PSU that isn't a firehazard, not wasting money on an i7 when you're only getting a 1060, and saving money.

>>60178080

>no mention of motherboard model
>no mention of psu model
>slow as fuck ram
>small as fuck ssd
>no mention of HDD speeds

Its shit.

>>60177980
asus
3 fins and higher clocks aren't worth $50

>>60178105
Ok, understood. So i should just abandon 144hz all together? Would save me some cash.

So what about CPUs? I really have no clue about intel vs AMD or what all to care about when it comes to the motherboard. I know a lot of the load is going to be put on the GPU when gaming, so what all do I need to worry about my CPU for? Sorry for being awful, and your continued help.

Alright, this is probably a really stupid question.
How do I know if I need a cpu cooler?

>>60177622
don't listen to this amd shill, the i7 7700k is a better price / performance ratio. You can even look up benchmark guides if you want any proven statistics. Not only is the 7700k cheaper, and more so if you have a Microcenter nearby you can price match with, but it's even faster than the Ryzen 1800k

>>60177754
I'm running an MSI Bazooka, which is basically a slightly stripped down version of the Mortar. It's decent, and the POST times aren't nearly as bad as the horror stories suggested. Takes about 5 seconds from a cold boot for me.

At this point, I'm not getting my college rebate until the start of June, should I put off building a completely new system for the sake of waiting™ for Vega?
Also, is Nvidia graphics having issues with Ryzen really a thing, or is it just meme? Because I've currently got a 1070 in mind with R7 1700

>>60178264
I would generally recommend r5-1600 + B350 motherboard, but if you're willing to spend extra money for best gaming performance, i7 7700k with z270 MOBO may make sense.

>>60178264
>so what all do I need to worry about my CPU for?
the other programs running on your PC, most importantly at the same time as your gaming because you're primarly a gamer

>>60178282
Any Ryzen R7 has much better price/perf ratio than any other intel CPU. Now, if we're talking gaming and just gaming, then indeed the 7700k is the best in performance and has better price/perf in games than any Ryzen R7.

>>60178272
You have a CPU, you'll need some form of cooling for it. Generally the stock cooler is good enough, assuming a)your CPU comes with one and b)you're not planning to overclock (much).

>>60178272
If you live in a hot place (or specifically if your case gets hot for some reason), want to overclock or if the CPU you order doesn't come with a cooler

>>60178311
considering vega gets released june 31 at worst, yes, waiting is wiser.
But nothing wrong with planning ahead and making a build (on paper) right now, which you would potentially edit if Vega does deliver. I mean, you just have to change the GPU.

>Also, is Nvidia graphics having issues with Ryzen really a thing, or is it just meme?
It's an issue nvidia has with 6+ cores part, it's very rare and with all the games tested on ryzen right now only Rise of the Tomb Raider & Rocket League show this bug, nothign else.

>>60178349
Just to be 100% sure, this is what you are talking about, right?

http://www.microcenter.com/endeca/CompareV2.aspx?returnUrl=L3NlYXJjaC9zZWFyY2hfcmVzdWx0cy5hc3B4P049NDI5NDk2Njk5NSA0Mjk0OTY0NTY2JnBhZ2U9MQ%3D%3D

>>60178361
Thank you anon, thats what I thought.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F4cQ9W

any recommendations/better options for under $1000? is 4GB RX580 good for that price?($189)

The case is just a placeholder. but I want the smallest and most mobile mATX case possible.

>>60178440

Unless you can justify the 1700 you could drop down to the 6 core parts to save some dosh.

>>60178440
>>60178473
Should have clarified that It is for 3D modelling and rendering plus animation. So I guess that 1700 is the best bang/buck in that regard. I plan to OC it around 3.6-3.8GHz depending on the lottery for stable performance.

>>60178500
Please understand that the R7 1700 + stock cooler cannot handle 3.7GHz sustained 100% load for very long, 10 minutes until it reaches 75°C at best.
So don't expect

Is g.skill ripjaws V pc 24000 16gb 3000mhz good for ryzen cpu on fatal1ty ab 350 gaming 4 momboard

How poor is the build, any obvious changes that could be made? Its a bit expensive for me any ways to price drop without losing much performance?

It's mainly a gaming PC, want to be able to play Overwatch at 144 fps, and games that could be more intensive at 60 fps at least.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w36vkT

>>60178349
>>60178431

Also I dont see a lot of real differences between motherboards.

http://www.microcenter.com/endeca/CompareV2.aspx?returnUrl=L3NlYXJjaC9zZWFyY2hfcmVzdWx0cy5hc3B4P049MCZhbXA7TlRUPWIzNTAmcGFnZT0x

What am I missing guys? whats the big deal?

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>initial plan was to get something simple that'll give me 1080p 60FPS on any game
>think of i5 + 1060
>ryzen 5 and rx 580 come out
>decide on the ryzen 5 1600, but severely torn about video cards
>no middle ground between rx 580 and a gtx 1080 as the rx 580 might be weaker than a 1060 (for unoptimized games), the 1060 is good but won't last at ll, the 1070 has compatibility issues, and the 1080 is a bloody money sink
>vega is coming out but will probably hve no middle ground either, either paying a lot on the GPU or lagging behind and needing an upgrade in just a couple of years
>parts are mad expensive in canada
>a fucking leaf

Help

>>60178671
Ryzen 1600x and rx 480 is more than enough, its very future proof

Dont let jewtel shills to fool you

>>60178692
>X
I'd rather get a 1600 and OC it since it's not much of a jump. I also get a free fan

>>60178440
SilverStone GD04 is pretty small

>>60178707
Thats also an option, 1600 is not very far off x version and plus you get cooler

>>60178560
that depends on the lottery, doesnt it?
If i can reach with the wraith spire 3.6GHz with reliable stability I will be more than satisfied, anything above that is just the icing on the cake.

>>60178634
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBQj7h

question aboot ram, I plan to get 16gb but with how the prices are I can only get 1 stick now and another later. This is fine as long as it's the same one yeah?

>>60178753
Dual stick 8gb each will improve performance over 1 16gb stick

I've finally come to reworking my machine from complete shit to something more up-to-date, first point of improvement would like to be GPU. So far have arrived at the decision that GTX 1060 would be optional. Question: What is the actual difference between standard one, O6G and STRIX versions of it, which is better (looking mainly for game/video action and occasionally some polygons)?

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I need suggestions for a good ~$50 case for a mATX/ATX sized mobo. Can anyone help me out with this?

>>60178744
I don't need a CPU cooler?

>>60177871
Please help with my stupidity

>>60178734
no, it will heat too much at 100% usage 3.7GHz oc regardless

Alright /gents/

Imma work this summer and gather some money, I'll use some of it to build my own PC.

I will have about 650-800€ to spend. I will have to buy a monitor as well, so I don't know if I'm using the whole 800€ for the pc only, or if I have to buy the monitor aswell.


The pc will be used to watch movies, shitpost and playing games like LoL, CSGO, Fifa, Rocket League and such.


Recommend me some good stuff.

Do these parts go together well or is there something better?
Ryzen 5 1600
Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

>>60178783
not for r5 1600, it comes with a stock one that's comparable to the 212 evo (i.e it's not shit like intel's).

>>60175293
>570 is usually all you need for 1080p at 60hz
I fell for the "all you need" meme when I bought my 380x. Civ 6 only came out less than a year after it and only gets like 50 fps max. What should I really get for silky smooth 60 fps at 1080p?

>>60178829
Thank you.

>>60178774
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wMZ2FT/rosewill-case-srm01

It's okay

>>60177871
depends on a game. in 90% of the cases rx570 shouldn't be bottlenecked by i5 4440. you might wanna check your psu seeing it's a dell prebuilt.

>>60178825
lazy fuck, do some research, make a pcpp list and come here for eventual corrections.

>>60177283
>single channel ram
might as well just end yourself, anon


>im just repeating memes and don't have any actual experience with PCs

Hey /pcbg/

are asus boards still total ass when it comes to BIOS for ryzen or are they viable now?

also which AM4 AB350 mATX board would you recommend at the moment? my budget is around $90

>>60176785
1060's are a fucking meme.
Just get a RX 580 & R5 1600.

>>60178769
>Can i have some (You)?

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>>60178849
desu anything less than gtx 1070 would be barely considered an upgrade. also civ 6 seems to favour nvidia cards more.

>>60178942
i heard good things about asrock pro4

>>60178907
I wasn't aware it was a prebuilt honestly. I bought it off some guy on Facebook a while back. Thanks for the info though

>>60178753
Yes should be fine

>>60178671
>1080
>moneysink

dude you should have seen all these mofos selling their 1080's for 1070 prices on used part lists cuz of the 1080ti/Titan Xd

Gtx 1060 vs rx 580? Which one?

>>60179111
Rx 580 by far

Gtx 10 series are meme

>>60179136
Any other argument than meme?

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>>60178983
>amd sponsored game
>plays horrid on all and cards

>>60176706
>my small ass sampleset proves these backblaze numbers gathered from thousands of drives is wrong

>>60179175
AMD will release drivers longer and nvidia will forget about 1060 in 6 months

What's a good card to pair with a G4560?

>>60179281
1050 ti, RX 470.

>want 1600X for better single core and OC
>binning supposedly not good enough
>1600 excellent value but want the X because i'm retarded
>want B350 board, all have some major flaw
>maybe get X370 then, all X370 boards have some major flaw
This is why we can't have nice things.

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>>60179200

Well, in 2017 things are looking different.

How good is the Corsair 88R as far as mATX cases go?

>>60178080
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vVcZKZ

An attempt was made.

>>60179352
Just get 7700. It's better than Ryzen and has no flaws or problems.

>>60175823
>>60176064
>>60177604
looks like the 560 will start at around 130 euros with 4gb. I'll wait a bit how it turns out. Maybe the price goes down during the summer.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GPWj7h
Intel is 299.99 at local store
VS

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcqLBP
AMD 249.99 at local store

AMD dont got no cooler tho

Does it really matter? I feel like im gonna recoup the cost in cooling.

Remember: CPU-Z had to rework their benchmark because they didn't like the fact ryzen was scoring so high on it because they don't believe ryzen's IPC can be that high (which it can according to Agner).

Its like saying AES encryption benchmarks don't count because ryzen is a fucking monster at it.

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>>60179478
Thanks Mr. Merchant, i almost fell for the Ryzen meme!

>>60179535

Get 1600, slap on a decent cooler and overclock it.

Putting my PC together now.
Fucking confusing thing on this Pro4 board:
The DIMM slots only have the lever on one side. The other side doesn't have a pin that locks in at all. Yet the manual shows a lever on each side.

>>60179493
Ehh considering you can get a RX470 for 170-200 EUR, right? Not worth it then.. the RX470 should be like 70% faster.

I wish there was actually a good cheap new value card that's actually good performance/$.

>>60179478
>no flaws or problems.
it hits high usages in gaming. The 7700k already hit 75%+, so the 7700k being quuite a lot lower clocked would reach even higher usage.

>>60179352
what major flaws are you talking about?

>>60179412
+ Good cooling options for an mATX case
+ Decent cable management
+ It looks like a case, not some kind of alien
+ Cheap as fuck

- The finish on the front plastics isn't great in the flesh
- No grommets on the cable cutouts
- No filter/cover for unused fan grilles.
- Autismal manchild side window
- It's not a Fractal Define Mini C

>>60179352
Yeah I keep hearing that the 1600X aren't significantly higher binned like the 1800X is compared to the 1700. I've seen nothing but anecdotes but.. that's disappointing if true.

>>60179594
So I should get the Define C Mini instead?

>>60179583
>Ehh considering you can get a RX470 for 170-200 EUR, right? Not worth it then.. the RX470 should be like 70% faster.
that's too expensive. Also I could get a 570 for that price because it's cheaper than the 470 for some reason.

>>60179627
Real talk? It's worth looking at, that's all. Loses the 5.25" bay and gains some quality of life niceties. Can be equipped with an autsimal manchild side window. Nothing major wrong with the 88R for the price, though.

>>60179425
how do you get windows 10 for 20 dollars

>>60179740
kinguin.net

>>60175293

>>i5 aren't worthwhile. Get Ryzen 5, drop down to G4560, or up to R7/i7

lmao kill yourself

Might just slap a 480/580 into my aging PC instead of building another for now. Currently have, i5 2500k OC to 4.2ghz and 8GB of RAM. Can i expect a noticeable performance increase if i upgrade to 16GB?

>>60179602
>disappointing
Disappoint or TOP FUCKING BANANA because it means you can happily save shekels and get a 1600 and stock cooler for less than the bare 1600X? I know which way I lean on that one.

>>60179756
doesnt microsoft revoke those keys?

>>60179704
The Define C Mini or Define S look nice, but are out of my price range/budget for a case is all. I just need something thats cheaper that can still hold a mATX mobo.

>>60177487
>X370 board
>1600X
Get the msi b350 tomahawk and the 1600 non x if you can afford it, if not just stick with the 1500x, and please choose way cheaper ram, you can get 16gb for 130 for the corsair vengeance lpx 3000mhz if you looked harder, unless that change in the last week.

>>60179816
they do after 30 days. dont fall for it

>>60179816
I've got two different systems that have been using kinguin-sourced keys for about a year and no sign of any issues. Even then they'd have to revoke ~7 different keys before buying an 'official' OEM key became a good deal.

If dosh is tight it's worth remembering that KMSpico is a thing that exists.

>>60177777
WITNESSING THOSE NUMBERS

So does anyone Torrent their OS anymore?

>>60179962
Assuming you mean Windows: Why the unholy fuck would you do that? Just download an official ISO and activate that.

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>>60179921
Go to bed, Steve.

>>60179921
Gunna need some source on that.

Can you guys suggest me a good keyboard for an Europoor gaymer? 50ish

Uhh the R5 1600 is 3.4GHz on cclonline, but 3.2GHz on amazon. Is this normal and does it change anything?

>>60180000
Quads for good advice. I guess you could get the checksums from MSDN and ensure your torrented shit is clean, but why bother?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

Spoof your user agent to something non-windows or they'll try to force you to use their shitty media creation tool.

>>60180000
Sorry, im pretty new, how do you activate it if you dont have a genuine copy? do you guys use like a key generator or anything?

>>60180163
KMSpico

But get it from the forum thread at https://www.mydigitallife.info/ rather than just grabbing it from somewhere shady and getting yourself fucked.

>>60180153
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-1600
The 3.4GHz probably refers to all-core turbo, and is (arguably) false advertising. If it's being sold as 1600, it'll have the same clockspeeds out of the box.

>>60180197
Alright, thanks for saving me £6!

>>60180153
>cclonline
Don't do it, mate. Their system let me order it and reflected that they had stock when they didn't. Chucklefucks didn't let me know there was a problem until I phoned up nearly a week later to find out where the hell it was. Cancelled, paid slightly more on Amazon, and had it the next day.

>>60180191
Thanks anon!

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Will be pulling the trigger today and I'm really nervous. Tell me if there's anything wrong with my build guys.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whFW8K

>>60180282
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whFW8K
get higher frequency RAM if possible
otherwise looks ok

>>60180282
You can probably get faster RAM for a very similar price - only familiar with britbong prices, though. Everything else looks reasonably well thought out. Consider powerline over wireless. Can't comment on the monitor.

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So I am just trying to get a build that can play some demanding games at high resolutions and higher frame rates, but its secondary use is doing a lot of 3D modeling in like Solidworks. This build comes to $1348.53 as a total and this was myself building using info I gained from many google search. So I think its ready to be looked at by people, so how does it look? I have plenty of room for changes.

>>60180366
Get a non-founder's edition card. And you have selected a stock (non-overclockable) 7700. If you meant 7700k, then that's fine. But if you indeed are getting the 7700, you don't need the Z270 motherboard, and probably not the cooler (though I'm not certain about the cooler).

>>60180407
7700 runs fine on the stock cooler. It's not quiet and it's not particularly cool, but it does the job.

>>60180282
drop the win10 key, use microsoft toolkit and get a 580

>>60180407
So I chose the non-overclockable one because I didn't know if overclocking was really worth the decent bump in price for it. And is that because the z270 is more for overclocking and I should aim for something a bit less?

>>60180261
Thanks for the warning, but I don't plan on building my PC until June, so I don't think I have any objections on waiting.


And if something happens to my order I'll make sure to post it here and you'll have the right to laugh at me. What's worse is that I'm only ordering from them instead of amazon is because it will save me almost(!) 3 pounds lol

>>60180366
It lacks the main advantage of the 7700k being the absurdly high clocks it has and can reach. 3.6 base vs 4.2, and lower binned. Pretty meh of a CPU in my opinion.

>>60180366
Go 7700K or go Ryzen. The 7700 is garbage. You don't need a z270 board unless you're overclocking and the non-K is locked.

>>60180557

With the release of ryzen all of the locked Intel chips are thoroughly meh because they don't have much of a clockspeed advantage and never will do.

>>60179584
>Asus Prime B350-Plus
Shit sound, bricked BIOS, Asus CS.
>Gigabyte Gaming 3
Shit gaymur RGB LED (fuck you Gigabyte), no heatsink over SoC VRM.
>ASRock Pro4/K4
3 Phase VRM posing as 6 Phase, bad sound.
>MSI Tomahawk
POSTs for years and >MSI
>Asus Prime X370 Pro
Glued fucking backplate, read about bad voltage regulation although excellent VRM.
>ASRock X370 K4
Trash budget mosfets on..
>Gigabyte
LEDs fucking everywhere.
>MSI
Shit vrm no matter what board.

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zWKPHN

I'm planning on getting everything in the next 2 weeks, so does anyone have any good recommendations for this? Any way I could improve my build without raising the cost too much(£20)?

>>60177662
anyone? should I just go to logical increments?

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< rate

>>60180694
NO. logical increments is a scam made by a paid shill spammer.

What does it mean if you get no video/post, but all your fans spin continuously?

>>60180670
just like you said, could be either no video or no post, fans will spin continously in both case.

>>60180694
just not logical intelments please, last i checked they're still recommending i5s and i3s
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fssbf8

>>60180677
Are you on a 1080p monitor?
I'd save getting an RX570 4GB if it's not significantly cheaper.
Get at least 2666 RAM. Maybe dual rank if you can at that speed.
Maybe use the GPU savings to get an SSD and semi-modular PSU?

>>60180772
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fssbf8
Solid build, though GPU is overkill for those games.

>>60180623
>>60180618
>>60180557
So do the Ryzen's just beat out the intel processors then? Because up until now I always thought you wanted to aim for intel.

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>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZGtmHN
Thoughts? I wanted something that looks good, has good performance and amazing reliability so I went with this. Gonna use it for gaming and general office related work. And before you sperg out about how I can get the same performance for much cheaper or how LEDs are fucking ugly because people use ugly rainbow colors, yeah I know.

>>60180832
Ryzen's performance per core is lower, and they can't reach clocks as high as intel cpus, but they offer more cores and a lot more threads at the same price which make it so that if you do anything that scales well even past 8 threads, going intel doesn't make sense anymore. 7700k is 4 cores 8 threads @ 4.2 - 4.5GHz, R7 1700 is 8 cores 16 threads @ 3.0 - 3.7GHz. Naturally, the 7700k beats the 1700 by a big margin in gaming, and the R7 1700 dominates completely the 7700k in workloads that scale with cores (video editing / encoding, anything rendering, blender, keyshot & handbrake, etc etc)

>Because up until now I always thought you wanted to aim for intel.
Should've read the OP then

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>>60180832
Ryzen just plain beats all but the 6700k/7700k at everything, and it beats the 6700k/7700k at most.
Well, except the G4560 due to price, obviously.

The 1600X, which is cheaper than a 7600k, still trades well with the 7700k, though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDKPHN
linux gaming build, how'd I do? left out HDD & SSD because I have spares

>>60180860
I have the same case. It's fucking amazing.

>>60180351
My router doesn't reach my room for landline.
>>60180497
I want to be able to customize my wallpaper and not have an annoying message in the background saying I didn't buy win10. And the 580s are $240.

>>60180910
>My router doesn't reach my room for landline.
why not run ethernet to a switch?

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Im buying this at the end of the week. Plz help

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBrJHN

im >>60178105
im looking to really know what im doing before the end of tonight.

looking for arguments against the monitor. i want 144hz but dont know where to get it cheaper or in a higher res without breaking the bank.

And would appreciate a once over to check to make sure I didnt make any rookie mistakes. Thanks, this is hopefully the final list ill post here, so i will be bothering you guys no longer.

>>60180890
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDKPHN
>i5
Anon we just had a talk about this a bit higher up
Replace with r5 1600, gigabyte ab350m mobo (and logically remove the cooler), get higher frequency RAM and knock down the PSU a bit.

>>60180860

Nice

what's the difference between cas latencies? if i get an 8gb crucial ddr4 2400mhz cl17 stick will it be worse than the same stick but with lower clocks and lower cas latency?

>>60180867

>Ryzen's performance per core is lower,

>he doesn't know

http://www.agner.org/optimize/#manuals

The throughput of each core in the Ryzen is higher than on any previous AMD or Intel x86
processor, except for 256-bit vector instructions.

which motherboard should i get with this

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2fGmHN

>>60180940
ryzen isn't well supported on linux IIRC will get higher frequency ram though

>>60180940
he's going linux though
R7 1700 vs 7700k is the same from windows to linux (as in 7700k wins by same margins in both), but having just searched for it i haven't seen anything comparing the R5 vs i5 in gaming so it could be a worse choice

>>60180677
Personally I would never, ever go back to a system with no SSD, and I'd be willing to sacrifice in other areas to get one in there.

Consider going mATX and with something like the Core 1100 case to save some shekels. Look at 4GB cards if you're going to be gaming at 1080p, and consider the RX570. Consider quicker RAM.

>>60180959
>>60180963
Oh, apologies. Wasn't aware of that.

>>60180921
What do you mean by that?

>>60180949
Depends on what you're doing with that RAM. For Ryzen, at least, higher frequencies will outweigh bigger latency.

>>60180994
so my routers in my living room and my second pc is in my bedroom, so I ran an ethernet cable all the way up to my bedroom and installed an ethernet switch (kinda like a splitter) that way you only need to run one cable for an entire room

>>60180860
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GET AN AIRCOOLER IN 2017?!?!?!?!

A FUCKING AIO WILL OUTPERFORM IT SO FUCKING MUCH!!!!

>>60181051
>This is what AIOfags actually believe.

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>>60180910
>My router doesn't reach my room for landline.

>>60181058
Show me benchmarks of a Noctua D15 beating a NZXT Kraken X62.

Go on faggot.

>>60180910
that's what microsoft toolkit fixes, makes you windows install legit.

>>60181066
>>60181036
That's just more shit I will need to buy when just getting a wifi card doesn't increase my cost by a whole lot.

My gtx 750ti blew up, the rx 460 I replaced it with had manufacturing issues. I don't wanna mess up my next purchase, so which one should I go for next?

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>>60181051
>OUTPERFORM IT SO FUCKING MUCH!!!!

>>60181097
>That's just more shit I will need to buy
25m ethernet cable and network switch is £12 for both, and the speeds will be a lot higher - how much is your network card and can it do gigabit?

>>60181084
How trustworthy is it though? I've heard Kinguin is trustworthy but I've heard nothing about microsoft toolkit.

>>60181120
2C cooler, 16.8m decibels louder. Twice the price. AIO master race.

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>>60181051
>SO FUCKING MUCH!!!!

>>60181132
It's $40 and it says it reaches up to 450Mbs.

>>60180923
fix font rendering. that hurts my eyes.

So Ryzen 5 1600 vs Ryzen 7 1700, help me understand. Ryzen 5 has the higher speed overall except when it comes to multi threading? Is that correct? Because that is what I am getting from PC part picker and googling about but I want to make sure. I want to make a nice PC and was going to just choose the fastest, but people keep saying the 7 over the 5 because of the multithreading bump.

>>60181174
so my solution is faster, cheaper and more stable

>>60181176
Sorry, on shit work pc in the office. Anything I do to it will be reverted in the morning. You dont wanna know what resolution I wake up to every morning.

>>60181157
I think we can all agree the real reason to buy an AIO is so it looks super cool in your manbaby side-window case and you can say you're ''''watercooling'''' as if you built a custom loop like a real enthusiast.

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>>60181051
>SO FUCKING MUCH!!!!!!!

>>60181201
Staph famalam

>>60181185
I will have to check burger prices but I don't know if I have an outlet near my router that is usable for a switch.

>>60181144
I've been using it for years without problems

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>>60181212

>>60181215
outlet would be in your room

>>60180822
At the moment I only have a 1080p monitor, but I'm planning on getting a 1440p one after September. I've never really used any HQ monitors, so I'm not even sure if I'll notice anything or if my plan is advisable at all.

I've been trying to look out for some cheap semi-modular PSU, and so far nothing has popped out at me. You may be able to tell from my case already, but I don't expect it to look pretty at all, and I'm not sure if the cable management will do anything.

>>60180982

I've seen people praise SSDs for a while now, and so far the only reason why you'd get it is to boot up your PC/load your games quicker, right? I don't really mind waiting those extra 20 seconds and besides, I'm not too tech savvy so I'd probably mess something up while trying to move my files, so I'm kind of reluctant to get one...

Just looked up better RAM, do you think Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
would work?

Thanks for the help!

>>60181244
Wait so do you oy need one switch? Or two, one in your room and the other near the router?

>>60181270
just one in your room

>>60181174
>up to 450Mbs.
it's hard to get those speeds using 5GHz AC which that network card doesn't even support
you also have to take into account signal strength
I doubt you'll get even one fifth of that speed

>>60180860
>>60181051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51hQUYp40nU

Noctua D15 > AIO up to 240mm/280mm. AIO above 360/420 > Noctua D15. Sadly there aren't many 360mm AIOs on the market even though most cases have support for them.

>>60181285
Ok that makes sense. So I connect the switch in my room, plug in the ethernet, then let the switch find the router?

>>60181303
What card would you suggest for a wifi card then (if i were to get one)?

is the intel 7260 wireless a good upgrade choice from an ac 3160 (laptop - inspiron 5559)?

Also what's the best SSD to drive caddy on a laptop with?

>>60181331
Asus PCE-AC88.

>>60181310
no you run one ethernet cable from the router to your room, plug that into the switch then plug upto 5 devices into the switch

Can someone throw me together a pcpartpicker build that could play 1080p 60 fps? Budget is 600$.

>>60181361
I can't run an ethernet from my router to my room is the problem though.

>>60181379
no.

>>60181382
just buy the damn powerline adapter & pray your ethernet card can do gigabit

Built my first system from a combination of hand-picked and free parts, now it's time to re-do it. After some testing my free, old (4-5 years) bronze+ PSU is giving me some issues and it's giving me a lot of erratic behavior. So I'd like to tear it all down and move it to a different case with some better RAM and a high quality cooler.

How does this look overall? The rig will be used for VR and racing sims (hence the wide 144hz 1080p monitor)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R4pZKZ

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I bought a MSI gtx 760 2Gb for 72 USD. Did I make a good purchase? I'm Canadian.

>>60180950
I would assume it should be faster at EVERYTHING as long as you take advantage of those 4 complex ops per cycle over 1 complex + 3 simple.
Even at 4GHz it should beat out Intel at 5GHz+.

But most stuff doesn't use a compiler that can compile for that. I don't think ICC has such an option. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>60181382
>I can't run an ethernet from my router to my room is the problem though.
why?

>>60180533
If you're not overclocking, you're wasting your time with a z270.
I found a 7700k for the same price as you non k one. You're welcome.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Intel-i7-7700K-Kaby-Lake-Quad-Core-4-2GHz-Processor-Plus-Free-USB-Mouse-/272635222784

>>60180282
You can get a 580 4gb for the same price anon.

>>60181416
maybe

shoulda gotten something used amd cause it probably aged better

>>60180963
>R7 1700 vs 7700k is the same from windows to linux
No it's not. Look at actual Linux benchmarks. Windows holds Ryzen back.

>>60181262
No, it's not just load times. Watch your disk i/o some time and see how much disk gets used.
Though most good programs are going to asynchronously load from disk and not lock up when waiting for it, it's still nice for it to be faster.

>>60181444
Because I live in the basement and the room where my router is is seperated by a wall.
>>60181409
I mean, what's wrong with a wifi card?

>>60181493
Not really. All the 570 4GB cards are $200-$220.

>>60181182
I have kind of the same question here, I am trying to pick between the Ryzen 5 1600, 1600x, R7 1700, or intel 7700k.

On $1k budget need help with what to get. Its a gaming PC going to be playing Overwatch, Counter Strike, and a lot of other games. I want to be able to play them all at 144 frames. Any help?

>>60181508
wifi is kinda flakey in general but if it works for you then okay

>>60181379
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nKVqyf
A little participation on your side wouldn't hurt Anon.

>>60175293
What is a good motherboard for a G4560 with upgrade to I7 in mind?

>>60181105
Replace it with the RMA'd RX460.

>>60181569

depends more on your form factor, USB needs, M.2, SATA slots, etc.

Use the sliders on pcpartpicker and see what you can come up with. As long as you stay away from Gigabyte (a lot of their cheaper boards fail in a year) then you're good.

>>60181553
I mean its honestly all I have. Can't really concievablly do ethernet.

>>60181182
>>60181534
They are the same CPU.
The 6 cores have 2 cores disabled.
Stock clocks are higher.
The X models may be binned slightly better so you can get higher overclocks on lower voltages.
The 1600X has much higher stock clocks than the 1700 if you're not overclocking.

>>60180923
LOL, WTF is that keyboard?

>>60181598
Weird, i thought gigabyte is the way to go, they have/had a reputation of being sturdy.

Ok, i prefer ATX form factor.
I would like 4 ram slots to have an option to get 2x4 DDR4 now and 2x4 later.
I`ll probably need at least 4 usb.
I don`t really need overclocking (never got into it), SLI and RAID. I`ll need at least 2 SATA for SSD and HDD. I need ethernet, may get wi-fi module and i need passable integrated sound.

The thing is that even cheapest H110 seem to be OK for me, but i don`t know if i`m missing something, Maybe it`s related to bios support?

Gpu temps suddenly increased from 30s to 50s on idle. Should I be worried?

>1 DIMM is significantly slower than 2 DIMMS
not in gaming, right?

>>60181889
it is slower in gaming but not by much

>>60181889
Especially in gaming. Unless it's dual rank then it's not much different. But 1 single rank is slow.

I just realized I bought everything except thermal paste... which one do I buy?

>>60181986
thermal paste comes pre-applied on most coolers. What cooler do you have?

>>60181986
MX-2. Or mayo. Or semen.

To the new bread fellas
>>60182102
>>60182102
>>60182102

>>60181949
>>60181972
How slow?

If a motherboard supports like DDR4-3200, but I want to buy DDR4-3000 RAM chips, can I do that? Or does it only accept the types it mentions?

>>60181986
MX-4