https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amd- stock-slumps-line-q1-214

i wont ever buy amd chip because they been fucking me over for years. ryzen is gonna be same garbage shit you can see right now. fuck aymd fanboys

>>60172436
this t.b.h. AMD was only good probably more than 10 years ago and back then I was /powerpc/. I'm not falling for their memes.

I don't get how AMD could be losing money. Surely they must be making shitloads because of how many consoles they supply components for.

>>60172458
They dont care about enterprise. Nvidia sells gpus for hpc, deep learning and industry. Most servers run intel. If you look at that its kind of obvious who has the better products.

Its time to SELL SELL SELL those AMD shares.

>>60172417
Oh yes pls drop to 8 before the end of Q2.

>>60172480
Won't ryzen now be a viable alternative for the server market?

>no 1070, 1080, 1080ti competitor for a whole 13 months
>ryzen3 doesn't even launch until late 2017

just lol

>>60172498
Naples? It rapes Skylake-EX/EP in any 1P/2P system. Which is 98% of the server market.

>>60172506
haha yes some future tech beats current tech wow such innovation.

Maybe if they actually released anything they could compete

>>60172417
>people cash out on good earnings report (up 18% YoY, much less of a loss than last year)
>people drop all their shorted stock because it's actually just a good buy now
LMAO PEOPLE ACTUALLY POINTING TO THE STOCK DROP AND THINKING IT'S A FAILURE POINT

>>60172531
AMD supporters are /pol/ losers and nazis. Honestly shows why they are so out of touch.

>>60172549
>he thinks being a nazi is bad

>>60172515
>Skylake-EX/EP
>current tech
The only Skylake or KabyLake based Xeons as of now are 4 core E3 CPUs.
All of the many-core Xeons are STILL Broadwell, and Skylake Xeons will still take a while.
Naples will be out in H2 2017, around the same time Skylake E5 and E7 will be available.

Also, if you haven't heard already, Zen and therefore Naples is extremely efficient at lower clock speeds of around 2.5-3GHz, where AMD currently demolishes anything Intel has in terms of efficiency and performance per watt.
Conveniently, this is exactly the frequency range server CPUs run at, and efficiency is one of the most important features of servers.

>>60172504
Vega and Naples are this quarter
Ryzen 3 is early in second half
Ryzen for laptops is late 2017

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>>60172480
>Most servers run Intel
Not for long

>>60172684
>32 DIMMs for 2P rack
Now that's what i call overkill.

>>60172480
nvidia makes only 300m from enterprise = nothing

also are you freaking blind? they are up from 500m negative to 30m, that's without CPU division involved at all

q2 going to be interesting. don't know what you expected from q1, 1 month of ryzen is not included in it

>>60172417
>>60172436
>>60172449


what are u talking about.
http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2268417

and they keep growing, the new surface is choosing ryzen over intel, there will be more manufacturer that will choose ryzen over jewtel.

and whoever says that ryzen is shit, its not. i upgraded my 4770k to 1600 and i am very impressed. it is so much faster and so far i never had issue or any stutters like i had with intel.

nt shilltels.

>>60165542

Your pathetic attempt at shilling failed last time, it's not gonna work this time either.

>>60172684

nice bodge wires and kapton tape

>drops .07 dollars
itt: a shill looked at the stock market for the first time

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>>60172803
>Only notices the wires and tape

>>60172930
32 DIMMs are scary, man.

>>60172684
I bet this doesn't even work.

Its just a propaganda piece.

Intel just works. Buy Intel if you want quality CPUs. Buy Nvidia if you want industry leading performance.

>>60172971
Nice
Do you also drive a Koenigsegg for Industry Leading Performance(tm)?

>>60172971
You can do better than that

>>60172504
This is the reason why I keep saying that the best thing that could happen right now was for amd to go under so someone could buy them. AMD simply do not has what it takes to compete with Intel and Nvidia. How many years did we have to wait to get a chip that is at the very best a better "bang for buck" when compared to some Intel cpus? How many years more are we gonna have to wait for the next one? How long have we been hearing about Vega this Vega that? How long has Nvidia been dominating the high and mid end market now?

Amd is at the very best a convenient way to protect Intel and Nvidia from monopoly laws. It doesn't provide competition for fucking shit and I'm sick of this "underdog" meme garbage and the obnoxious jehowah witness tier cultists that worship this trash company. I really wish someone with money could buy their assets, fire every single one of their pathetic engineers and get competent people on board, but I might as well write a letter to Santa, because all we have to look forward to is even more mediocrity, even more stagnation and specially even more aggressive shilling from irritating amd marketers making outlandish promises and then pulling a 180 when their next disappointment ships. Great fucking industry.

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>>60172971
>I-it won't w-work r-right?

>>60173040
>DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKEEES TO COMPETE

>Ryzen reduced Intel to 2 SKUs and RR and R3's aren't even out yet
>Polaris is more than competitive with its competitor

Drink bleach, idiot.

>>60172743
>implying you had fuckall problems while gaming with a fucking i7 4770k

You should really, REALLY tone down your bullshit if you wish to make your little piece of propaganda seem believable, just saying.

>>60173040
How much did they pay you to write this?
Don't forget to put "sage" in Options

>>60173066
Ryzen is a flop retard

>>60173066
>poolaris

Meanwhile the 1070 remains untouched for a solid year, and there are currently how many more stronger Nvidia gpus than it now? Still waiting for Vega? Nvidia is already getting ready to launch Volta and amd has jack fucking shit now aside from yet another rebrand of some outdated as fuck lineup of gpus that fried motherboards. Great fucking work, amd!

Take your bleach and drown in it, maybe it will fix your shit skin problem, pajeet.

>>60173070
you dont have to believe me, just saying.

>>60173108
>Nvidia is already getting ready to launch Volta
the delusion.

>>60173094
Oh I'm sorry, did I hurt your fee fees, amd marketer? Go wait for Vega or something so you can feel a little bit better.

>>60173108
>1070
Amd hasn't even touched 3 year old the 980ti.

>shills arguing with shills arguing with unpaid shills
What a time to be alive.

>>60173117
I sure as hell don't because you're the one saying stupid shit like a fucking power house of a cpu gave you any problem whatsoever in fucking video games of all things. You're either one of the many AMD shills from this board or an idiot who couldn't do something as simple as not fucking your pc up before playing games.

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>>60173130

>>60173106
Nice try, 2% gross margins increase in less than a month and it completely offset the Q4>Q1 drop from seasonal sales, only 1% loss, while Intel lost 13% with a full quarter of Kabylake laptop and desktop revenue.
Numbers prove you completely wrong.

>>60173121
Volta is getting released next year, pajeet. This isn't amd where people need to wait 2 or 3 years for some mediocre garbage to come out.

>>60173162
So is Navi, your point?

"Next year" is pretty vague.

>>60173148
why the fuck would i shill over a fucking cpu, im not 12 fucking years old.

what im tryng to say is that i have lots of stutter and freezes with intel than my brand new ryzen and u call me a liar.

whatever kid.

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>>60173127
Holy shit you're right. The 980ti is so old I didn't even remember it was a thing, and the funny thing is that this outdated piece of tech might as well be some alien futuristic artifact if you're an amd pajeet. Jesus, what an emarassment. I almost feel sorry. Almost.

>>60173177
>u

Lying shitskin confirmed.

>>60173106
Then why is Ryzen better in gayming than a stuttering housefire corelet trash?

>>60173177
Because you are. No one with an i7 4770k is gonna have anything other than a completely smooth gaming experience no matter how you put it. If you're a genuine user instead of one of the poos ITT then all that tells me is that you're completely tech illiterate and you're blaming user error on hardware.

>>60173207
>gayming

You must be over 18 to post on this site

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>>60173209
Intel designated Smooth SolutionsTM

>>60173207
>gayming
>gay
Im sick of the racist, anti Semitic, homophobic nazi AMD supporters.

>>60173212
I'm talking about gayming because Intel abortions get annihilated when it comes to productivity. Gayming is literally their latest excuse and it's still shit.

>>60173224
>it's a delided 7600k at 5.0



Lmao

>>60173192
>judging people by spelling

do me a favor and kys

>>60173209
>no one
wow you must be a fucking wizard to know everything.

im just sharing my experience with ryzen and people call me shill.

good god, what the fuck is wrong with you all.

>>60173225
>AMD nazis
>implying shitskins can be Nazis

>intel is a stuttery shit in gaymen
>intel is complete shit in productivity
Why does this company still exist?

>>60173248
>call me shill
>me shill
Dumb pajeet can't spell correctly.

>>60173264
sorry for not being born in america
but i am happy here in my own country.

>>60173259
People that buy i7s for muh 6% more fps in gayms

>>60173179
>posting Agner in thread full of tech illiterate /v/edditors
No point.

>>60173177
>what im tryng to say is that i have lots of stutter and freezes with intel than my brand new ryzen and u call me a liar.
I'd rather play gayms on a phone than use an Intel CPU for gayming desu

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>a small daily fluctuation in the price of a security represents the death knell of a major corporation

It's a good thing you're not managing anyone's portfolio, go back to rummaging through dumpsters for "vintage" (aka busted old used) audio gear

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>>60173283
>6% more fps
More like 80%

Does this guy ever sleep?

>>60173306
Adderall's a thing.

>>60172417
did you even read that shit?

>>60173296
>csgo
Just kys lmao

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>>60173259
What a hypocryte pooskin

>>60172549
>nazis
or
>getting jewed every chance they have
hmmm.

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>>60173283
>>60173296
More like -6%

>>60173333
>amd
Just kys lmao

>>60172549
The Jews fear the Nazi and Samurai, of course.
Seems like someone didn't get gassed nearly enough

>>60173346
t. mad intel corelet

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>>60173345
>testing cpu performance
>with a gtx970

Dumb poojet

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Well since the thread was shit from the start every party might as well cherrypick their benches.

I'll start with Intel's best CPU

>>60173362
>test $1000 cpus performance
>with a $200 bottleneck gpu

Do you even poo in loo?

>>60173360
>that 6700k

Lol

>>60173335
>showing frametime in a bar graph
wew.
their target readers must be underage or fail maths.

>>60173370
>720p
Nice try schlomo, at that resolution you couldn't make it more of a synthetic if you tried.

>>60173383
Rx480 has such slow bandwidth it can't even pull off good 720p gaming

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Just a reminder Intel is both shit in gaming outside of a delided 7700k and productivity.

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>>60173391

>>60173396
Daily reminder that amd is shit in every scenario except reinstalling linux every hour like a forever wizard virgin

>>60173391
RX480 has the same bandwidth as the GTX1070, try again

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>>60173401
Man, it's a good thing nobody takes CPU recommendations from you

>>60173412
Intel makes more money off cpus in a month than amd makes in a year

>>60173412
Is that the 10 core? Pathetic.
I can't imagine what will happen when the 12-16 core release at Computex

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>>60172971

>>60173412
How is 1800x losing in many single thread tests vs 4ghz intel if agner said that ipc of ryzen is higher?

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>>60173360
>broken game engine
Dumb jew scourge

>>60173412
Nice try dumb poojet

>comparing amd with more core intel in single threaded apps
>comparing amd with fewer core intel in multi threaded apps

This shit doesn't work outside of your designated shitting street in india

>>60173396
7700k is the least shit but it's still shit nonetheless

>>60173447
Ryzen has Broadwell IPC

>>60173449
>test cpu perofmance
>with a gtx 970

Can't fool me pajeet

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>samefagging THIS hard
How cute.

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>>60173461
More like lower than sandy bridge IPC

>>60173462
>193 fps
lol intel shill is anally devastated
stay mad

>>60173470
Broken shit engine, try again goy

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>>60173447
Because in average it wins?

And that IPC advantage needs updated compilers?

>>60173461
Kaby Lake has Broadwell IPC

>>60173486
They patched it. Now it werks just fine with Ryzen.

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>>60173486
>every game engine where my indian shit loses is broken
Try again poojet

Yay, let's argue with the same mentally defunct ape for the twenty thousand time again.

>>60173510
Just report him. Maybe mods will rangeban him.

>>60173510
How much do you think he talks to himself?

>>60173499
>Posting THE most broken game
sure

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>>60173510
>>60173514
>>60173518

>>60173510
>>60173514
>>60173518
>>60173519
>105 Posts 23 ips
>109 Posts 23 ips
>How much do you think he talks to himself?

What did they mean by this?

>>60173528
110 Posts 24 ips

Oh wow, another wojak.

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>>60173470
Try non ancient benches

>>60173534
This assblasted indian shitskin has the most posts ITT
>>60173542
>>60173510
>>60173514

>>60173499
>13 fps
AHAHAHAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHH

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>>60173548
Like this benchmark from last week?

Mods do your fucking job for once.

>>60173564
Atleast post from non shit sources

>>60173587
Like adoredtv or anandtech?

>>60173519
That's not FO4.

>>60173587
>game engine is broken
>nvidia gimped my cpu
>biased benchmark
>not enough ram frequency
>shit sources

Can you get any more pathetic than this?

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>>60173564
lol ok

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>>60173548
> i7 5775c
Fucking jewed out of being able to use this gem in my mobo, eventhough it has the same socket (z87, while 5775C requires Z97)

Will we get a CPU with L4 cache any time soon?

>stutterkike
>2017

>>60173602
t. autist that thinks i have ryzen just because i argue against tards

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>>60173614
Lul

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Just wait for Skylake v4 in 2018 bro, that will totally change things.

Actually you don't even have to buy just buy Skylake-X it has much more IPC

>>60173179
Nice, I didn't know Agner updated his guide

>>60173620
Intlel realized that Skyfail was shit so they marketed the shit out of it and stopped selling Broadwell

>>60173633
Now for the real fps numbers >>60173449

>>60173655
More like the real FPS numbers>>60173499

>>60173664
Yes, the real fps numbers >>60173345

>>60173671
>>60173664
You should both be banned

>>60173671
You mean these?>>60173633

>>60173673
Yes, these >>60173548

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>Still 25 ips

Watching AMDrones and Jewtel shills fight it out is hilarious.

>>60173412
POOTEL STUTTERING HOUSEFIRES

>>60173681
These>>60173564

>>60173693
Exactly >>60173224

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>>60173690

>>60173335

You know very well he was referring to the CPU's goy

>>60173614
6950 is 1600 doll hairs though, are the fps that worth it, shouldnt this post be on \v

>>60173636
POOTEL LONGER BIPELINE

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>>60173713
You took someone else' OC and are spamming it now? Do you filthy kikes have zero shame?

>>60172549

>muh holocaust

>>60173396
POOTEL DELIDDED HOUSEFIRES

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57339/amd-takes-cpu-market-share-intel-thanks-ryzen/index.html

THE MARKET MASSACRE HAS BEGUN

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>>60173736
Poo poo poo poo

>any other thread
>stop talking about jews and go back to /pol/ faggot
>intel thread
JEWS XDDDD JEWWSS!!!!!!!!!!!! ISRAEL XDD INBELLTED

>>60173736
Do you think he'd have shame when he's been shitposting since the 3rd of March ?

>>60173687

redpill me about VIA

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>>60173757
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60173762
I used to listen to stories of my dad in concentration camps, he spent every day listening to the cries of gassed kikes.

>>60173764
Shit dog slow Centaur designs not even worth it

>>60173780
Jokes on you, pajeets got gassed fiest

>>60173564
>last week
>proceeds to post benches from march

>>60173757

OY VEY ANTISEMITE

>>60173764
True underdog of computing world. Have mobos with built in CPU's are perfect of itx builds

>>60173783

can I OC their cpus?

>>60173812
No

Why are kikes so scared?

>>60173812
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WurUz36lktU

>>60173757

It's happening, considering the Ryzen came out in the final weeks of the first quarter and they've already taken that much, it looks very good for AMD's future market share.

>>60173841
>>60173823

kek may I should ask if is it safe.

>>60173834
Can't have dem competitions when bribing aint working m8

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>>60173834
This is why.
Meanwhile Ryzen launched in the last month of Q1 and AMD still as much chips as it did during the holidays, only a 1% drop from Q4

>>60173360
>Implying I care about differences in FPS above 60 on a specific game
How about you use an actual benchmark program?

>>60173880
>AMD still sold as much chips*

Fucking keyboard.

>>60172417
>>>/biz/

>>60173834
They don't like capitalistic competition. They're actively employing shills and rumor bombs now. It's hilarious.

>>60173861
Yes

http://www.viatech.com/en/boards/mini-itx/epia-m920/

>>60173880
CPU and graphics had a 29% YoY increase, TWENTY NINE PERCENT.

The rest of the year should be hilarious.

>>60173866
Intel never bribed anyone.

Advertising is perfectly legal. Intel is the consumers friend. They help them get the best value product.

>>60173890
>AMD still sold as many chips*
Fucking brain.

>>60173913
hehehe

>>60173913
Then Intel should help people get a Ryzen CPU.

>>60173913
>intel never bribed anyone
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/184323-intel-stuck-with-1-45-billion-fine-in-europe-for-unfair-and-damaging-practices-against-amd

>>60173834
They can't compete against AMD will good arch and good management.

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>>60173937

>>60173912
>EPS met
>ẉall street expectations surpassed slightly
>gross margins up 2% from a single month of Ryzen sales
>15-20% revenue expected in Q2
>confirmed shipments of Naples to customers
>Vega and Naples on track to Q2 launch
>afterhours tanks
Can someone explain the stock market to me, how does this make any lick of sense? Is it like Nvidia where the stock was overvalued?

>>60173942
Delet this, stupid goy

>>60173942
Fake News.

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Why /g/ is so easy to bait just like an autistic 12 years old kid?

>>60173958
>Is it like Nvidia where the stock was overvalued?
Sorta.

>>60173179
So as compliers start being fully optimised for Ryzen we're going to see intel get crushed?

>>60173963
t. mad intlel goy

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>>60172971
0.005 cents has been deposited into your account.
-LinusTechTips

>>60173967
/pol/eddit leaking onto other boards.

>>60173958
Both AMD and Nvidia were meme stocks of last year, soared too high and too fast which didn't make much sense.

>>60173973
You can bet Intel's compiler won't be optimized, but Microsoft's compiler might, they seem have told Intel to fuck off considering the inclusion of both ARM and AMD Naples into their new Olympus platform.

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>>60173967
You put the answer in your question.

>>60173958
Panic from short sellers who expected 40% YoY from 27 days (with mobo shortages) of sales

tl;dr shareholders are mostly idiots.

>>60173070
i used a xeon 1231v3 which is bascially the stock clock equivalent of i7 4770k and i can confirm that gaming became much smoother with even higher framerates when i changed to ryzen 7 1700

>>60174014
We should have advanced AI shareholders which make perfectly rational buy / sell decisions to create steady growth.

>>60173880
So does this mean nobody bought Kabylake?

>>60173998
>Microsoft's compiler might, they seem have told Intel to fuck off considering the inclusion of both ARM and AMD Naples into their new Olympus platform
No this can't be real

>>60174037
>>60172684

>>60174014
Ryzen doesn't even go into OEM/boutique systems until Q2, Ryzen 5 doesn't even fall under Q1, the real ER to look at will be Q3, which will have full revenue of Ryzen 5 and 7, and Q4 which will have full revenue of Ryzen 3,5,7, Vega, Raven Ridge some of Naples.
Q4 should be a doozy.

>>60174037
Oh it's very real Mr.Krzanich

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11187/microsoft-details-project-olympus-open-compute-standard

Wintel is on its death throes

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>>60174062
>Cavium, AMD, Qualcomm

Oh God SOMEONE GET THE ICU INTEL IS HAVING A HEART ATTACK

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>>60174075
Intel: Don't get embarrassed, Intel. Just imagine him in his underwear.
>AMD is ripped
Intel: Oh no, he's hot!

>>60174062
Lmao, isn't Microsoft the biggest server buyer just behind Amazon and Google? Isn't Google making their own CPUs(?) for their servers?

Wow, what a shitshow

>>60174101
I heard Google is also going for some Naples.

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>>60173958
>>Vega and Naples on track to Q2 launch
Finally some recent confirmation from the head, this was a good day.
So if AMD has any brains, this will be Computex launch to shit on Skylake-X, there was also a mention of a launch event on May 15/16, maybe the 12-16 core HEDT chips?

>>60174126
>there was also a mention of a launch event on May 15/16
I think that's Vega. And HEDT chips on Computex to shit on Intel's grave.

>>60172633
Servers will still run Intel, doesn't matter how hard you shill

>>60174151
Yeah, they will. >>60174075

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>>60174017

>>60174144
Can't they launch both at Computex? It lasts 3 days.
You'd basically get full 3 days of AMD coverage on sites if they launched both and teased something else on day 3

>>60174162
That makes sense. We'll see.

>>60174162
That would be good marketing, too bad AMD's marketing is terrible.

I'd personally tease Raven Ridge or the R3 series on day 3.

>>60173958
Lisa mentioned that they're putting in a good chunk of revenue into R&D, which is the best choice they could make.

I'm honestly sick of the anti Semitic AMD shills. /pol/the_donald losers please leave. It's not even funny anymore.

I'm not even shitposting.

>>60174219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

>>60174118
and vega, they got both though vega and tesla

>>60174215
While Intel invests in
well
diversity.
Because semicondutor companies need trans-niggers. Instead of competent engineers on fat paycheck.

>>60174219
>I'm not even shitposting.

Yes you are, bc /pol/ and the_donald-redditfags are not the same.

also

>muh holocaust
>oy vey antisemite

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>>60174219
Lmao.

>>60172417
Oh god I really hope all the AMD stock shills lose their life savings

AMD stock shills have been shitting up /g/ for so long now, I hope they all go bankrupt

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>>60174219
The irony is that AMD is a full on communist left-wing shit company

Just look at their marketing

I voted for Trump and will never buy AMD, they put out communist propaganda

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>poo popo muh poo POO

Meanwhile Intel's Kikemeister Goldstein preys on little Hindus.

Company is filled with kikes, indians and diversity managers, meanwhile Intel fired their validation teams which leads to the Atom shitstorm and more lovely bugs like TSX
https://danluu.com/cpu-bugs/

>intel does well
>inteldrones: YEAH FUCK YEA INTEL IS KING

>intel doesn't do well
>ITS ALL THESE POO POOS AND DIVERSITY

You really are a bunch of muh fake news trump retards

>>60174316
0.5/4 probably the worst bait I've ever seen.

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>>60174351
You think it's bait? Look it up yourself.

AMD is literally using communist propaganda in their marketing.

Look at that fist, it's the same Black Lives Matter, Marxist shit.

>>60174366
I see you have some kind of irrational hatred towards left-wing political movements? It's a murrican thing?

>>60174366

>MUH SCARED WHITE AMERICAN FREEDUMB COMPLEX

>>60174366
When they started investing in diversity managers and feminist frequency instead of R&D I'll start worrying.

Also, as someone from a ex-commie country, we couldn't be more xenophobic if we could, you should try living here and see how people think of blacks, trannies or any of that LGBT nonsense.

>>60174374
Left-wing political movements always lead to brutal dictatorships.

>>60174386
Right-wing movements also lead to that. Anything radical is bad.

>>60174397
>le edgy centrist

>>60174322
>kikes, trans-niggers and diversity managers
All Intel shills should be decapitated.

>>60174404
Oh look, a /pol/ kiddo. Where's your MAGA hat?

>>60174412
Intel doesnt need shills. Its only deranged rabid frothing AMD losers false flagging.

>>60174404
>extremes are good

>>60174438
But Intel shills do exist, just for the simple fact that retarded people will always exist in this world.

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>>60173106
The 140W TDP 6900k is a flop, not its more efficient and powerful competitor. I can't wait for the housefire xeons to get stomped by naples.

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PC marketshare is slumping, and might never really recover.
Where will AMD transition to?

Intel has already made clear that their previous bread and butter isn't cutting it anymore. They're investing in the future. Self-driving cars, AI, 5G, Storage-class memory, IoT, datacenter frameworks etc.

What does AMD have that's comparable? Just building chips for people, or even putting chips in servers, doesn't cut it in today's market.

>>60174712
>Intel
>5G
Laughing_finns.png
The rest are simply memes.

>>60174712
PC market will never go away, PC market included desktop, laptops and office, the last two will never go away, the former will shrink, but it will still be a 13+ billion USD market

Datacenter just keeps growing, it's never going to go down because there's always need of something faster.
AMD and Intel are fine

by absolutely no metric is AMD performing poorly

armchairs economists please climb down from mount stupid

>>60174712

If anything I predict the opposite to happen. As more and more of these console peasants have managed to infiltrate the internet, they are buying into this PC master race business. It's only anecdotal but I've seen many people online and IRL who have loved their consoles, got onto the internet, seen the benefits PC gaming has, then switched over to pretty high tier PC setups.

>>60174404
dumb smelly hick

withdraw your taint from the gene pool

>>60174734
Because diverse product portfolios are always a bad idea. Maybe get your head out of your arse and take a look at the real world. Meme or not, all that stuff is hot shit and will be for at least a few years, Intel are making a smart business decision to invest in those areas. AMD as always will sit twiddling their thumbs screaming about MOAR COARS while their consumer base dwindles because apparently they don't seen to realise there's more markets they could be in if they had a modicum of business sense

>>60174847
Ye, Intel's so good on wasting money on memes like Optane or self-driving memes instead of focusing on CPU R&D. Now look where they are now.

>>60173396
Jesus Christ, Intel is actually getting people to tear apart their CPUs and void their warranties by using substandard finishing.

What's worse is people buy it.

>>60174847
AMD employs 9000 people, Intel employs over 100k.

AMD is not going to be able to branch out into new markets without experiencing significant growth. they're already spread thin enough trying to compete with multiple companies far greater than itself.

not that any self-respecting CEO would buy into your meme-spouting retard's notion of how a business should operate. there is no pressing need for AMD to diversify its operations.

>>60174847
>anyone gives a fuck about Intel's whatever and their other thing.

>but anon, they made a really fast SSD

I can't wait until a year from now when everyone has a copy-cat product for 1/4 the price and with an actual warranty that implies it will last more than 6 months with normal desktop use.

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>>60174789
>they are buying into this PC master race business.
You are only half-right.
As a segment of PC marketshare, PC gaming has been one of the only growth areas. Even as people buy fewer PCs, the ones they do buy are increasingly gaming-centric. Because why else would anyone buy a massive box when your tablet and phone can do 80% of what you want in the day-to-day?

People are still buying fewer PCs. Intel fired 12,000 people, 11% of its total headcount. Why? They wanted to "accelerate its evolution from a PC company to one that powers the cloud and billions of smart, connected computing devices". They know the future is in the cloud, in mobile. Of course, they gave up on mobile, but they had the right focus.

>>60174884
>Now look where they are now.
Increasingly a good buy?
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/01/intel-corporations-memory-business-surges.aspx

>>60174951
>powers the cloud
They just lost cloud to ARM and AMD. They are literally throwing buzzwords in unrelenting damage control.

>>60172417
Everyone knew q1 wasn't gonna be good, it's Q2 to look forward to.

>>60174951
Intel is more than 10x the size of AMD, and thus Intel has to diversify whereas AMD does not.

>>60175066
When I buy a CPU I like to know that the company has a diverse portfolio.

>>60175316
Like Feminism and Diversity quotas?

Also when I buy products from a company I'd like to know if their CEO enjoys walking with a dildo up their ass, this is very important and validates the existence of a dildo in my own ass.

>>60175027
>j..just wait ${future_amd_product} will be better

>>60175383
Actually... yeh

>>60174934
You just said it yourself; Intel employs over 100k people. How do you think they got big enough to be able to employ that many people and take risks with what areas of technology they decide to back? Thepoint is AMD just seem to rely on CPUs and nothing else when their Competition is now so large that they don't even have to rely solely on CPUs for income. Whether people like it or not when most people, if they are even aware of what a CPU is, will think Intel whenever the topic comes up, not AMD, which is a sign that AMD needs to do something for brand awareness. If you are 1 of a very small group of companies is doing the same thing and most don't really know or care about your company, or your company is plagued by underwhelming releases year after year then your in trouble

Reminder AMD is holding the CPU industry back. By not competing they have allowed stagnation. Intel could easily finish them but then the anti industry laws would cripple them.

>>60174950
Who even mentioned SSDs or caring about what Intel are doing? The point being made is that Intel aren't putting everything on their CPUs, they are diversifying their portfolio and spreading risk. Whether or not those areas are short lived is irrelevant, what is worse from a businesses stand point: to get a jump on a fad and squeeze as much revenue out of it before the hype dies or to be the company that didn't take the chance and miss out completely on a revenue stream, as short lived as it is?

>>60174884
Yeah just look at where they are now, still THe company when it comes to CPUs with no end to that reign in sight. Oh silly Intel, how stupid they must feel raking in all that cash, if only they had a significantly smaller market share they could've kept their integrity

Buy the dip you retards.

>>60175066
This is a non argument. If you are so big that you've managed to get the most from a saturated market then yes you need to diversify. To say that is a bad thing when your main competition is so minor that they have no choice but to grind out an existence in a market dominated by the larger company is stupid

>>60175580
>when their Competition is now so large that they don't even have to rely solely on CPUs for income.

Are you fucking serious? Look at Intel's earning report, out of 14B revenue, 12.5B are from CPU

>>60175640
DELETE THIS

>>60175667
I'm not saying that CPUs aren't there main source of income, what I'm saying is Intel now have the size and wealth to be able to look into other areas outside of CPUs with minimum risk. I'll concede I worded that aspect poorly

>>60175609
This.

Intel loves AMD, they are the token competition that keeps Intel from being investigated for monopoly.

>>60175684
No, they can't, that makes a wast majority of their revenue, their other targets like IoT and memory are way too low margins to sustain a company like Intel

>>60175705
They are looking into several areas. A lot of smaller revenue streams can still turn out respectable profit overall, and we are assuming that these areas will be fadd and amount to nothing more than short term gains, when the reality is at least one of the areas Intel are now researching will take off whether /g/ believes so or not. Again it's back to would you rather be the big company that has to diversify their range because they've hit maximum saturation in their primary market, or the smaller company that is clinging on to market share in an Intel dominated market, rife with underwhelming product releases?

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>>60175736
You can see yourself where this is going, the problem with NVM and IoT is that they're already packed with competitors, the same competitors that sweeped out Intel out of the mobile market.

>>60175768
True but that doesn't automatically mean Intel will be played out of the IoT market. They have the resources and manpower to make a serious effort in that space so Intel can still compete theoretically, Much like Tesla did with the electric car. there was a period where industry guys wouldve said no other electric powered car will do enough to make Toyota nervous regarding their domination of the market with the Prius

>>60175814
Which leads to a different issue, IoT is paper thin margin market, and Intel is a 60%+ margin company with far too expensive products for the market.

IoT cannot sustain them

This thread is retarded, datacenter is almost 40% of Intel's total revenue, it's a GROWING market, while the PC market is stagnant.

Intel is gonna be fine, so is AMD

>>60175882
Again, large companies will often move into multiple smaller revenue streams as the gross from the collective will be enough to justify moving into them. I agree that IoT as it stands is a small profit(relatively) market and if Intel were to put its faith entirely in just IoT then it would definitely lose out. What OP is saying is that Intel are now investigating multiple areas to move into, which changes things from Intel will suffer in IoT due to margins to Intel could stand to make money if they are competitive in a number of thin margin streams

>>60172684
As nuts as this looks, I still want Zen2/3 to add some more IO lanes so we can see 4P systems with 64 DIMMs.

>>60173179
"Wait(tm) for Zen2" to fix the I$ bandwidth?

>If ryzen couldnt save them Vega won't.


Ryzen only had like a month of sales in this Q1 data.

Their GPU business wasn't floundering like their CPU business was, while there could be growth, its unlikely to grow by leaps and bounds.
Their RX 4xx lineup did well and boosted market share, will the 5xx lineup do as well ? who knows, but its unlikely to be the same growth as we say when the 4xx came out.

>>60176240
you know that nobody uses 256 vectors in consumer software, right?

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>>60172417

>>60175656
I was not making an argument in favor or against either company, you fanboy /v/eddit manbabby.

I was simply pointing out that the appropriateness of pursuing diversification or specialization depends on the size of the company relative to it's primary markets, and that there is no universal best strategy.

>>60176916
Can't say I'm a fan of Intel or and, I personally couldn't care what happens to either company. And I get what you're pointing out, in fact you've agreed with my point in spite of yourself;Intel are the dominant force in CPUs, they have decided to diversify since they practically own that space and room for growth within that market is/will start to slow, and a large company needs to look into other areas to keep growing

Although DESU I'd guess a lot of this is lost on you, considering you can't objectively debate about something without resorting to name calling when someone doesn't agree with you, much like a child would do

>>60178278
I originally pointed out that different strategies are appropriate for AMD and Intel as they are quite different in size compared to their main markets. You've now spent two posts failing to add anything whatsoever to this point while making a lot of noise.

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new vega benchmarks
AMDrones on suicide watch

>>60173127

Fury X competes with 1070.

Why the fuck would they want to even launch a 1080 1080ti competitor? Half-steps and half-measures for good little consumer /v/ermin like you to spend your mom's child support money on.

4k ultra @60fps with a superior VR experience is what they want to sell. Superior, quality products that meet consumers expectations.

>>60176456

He's talking about Cross CCX latency being tied to the RAM bus. By improving that it eliminates a big Achilles heel in the design.

Throw in another actual IPC boost, not Intel Ipc improvement mind you, and Zen+ is looking killer, on top of the 512 AVX they'll be adding.

>>60173179
based Agner

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>>60174075
>no VIA

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>>60174712
>>putting chips in servers, doesn't cut it in today's market.
>servers not mattering in the age of cloud meme

>>60173447
1. Software devs have to update / build new software to take advantage of Ryzens non-standard architecture changes.
2. Ryzen clocks are running nowhere near the same GHz as Intel Core ix-6/7xxx. One R7-1700X was ramped up to 4.5GHz to match the i7-7700k, it wasn't stable for long but it was able to complete the benchmark run and gave the Intel chip a good thrashing.
The R7-[2/3]700X (which hopefully will benefit from refinement + updated coding) should stomp anything Intel has to offer until their next architectural advance arrives in 2020.