/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60166920
is there a more reddlt case than nzxt phantom?

>>60166345
I don't know if you migrated or not, but yes
I have seen completed builds with that motherboard in that case
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/WzNQzy like here

First for intel getting absolutely destroyed by amd

Feels fucking goood, man! ;^)

>>60166963
oops, meant the tomahawk specifically

Reminder: Its generally not recommended to assemble your PC yourself. You should purchase the parts, then take them to a certified computer repair shop and have them assembled professionally for a small fee.

>>60167007
t. A pc repair shop owner

so why is the 1070 no longer worth while for new builders again? i'm pretty sure it still out performs the 580 by a good chunk and is significantly less than the 1080

Need genuine help here, I have the money for top of the line, but I don't play any games or plan to play any games that require a 1080ti + ryzen 7/i7 7700k, I was thinking about getting something more middle of the road "best bang for buck", and buying some games with the rest of the money.

Games that I want to play have a recommended 1GB of Vram.

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>>60166954
>is there a more reddlt case than nzxt phantom?
No. Maybe.

>>60167035
Because it's just not worth the Gsync cost and being locked into Nvidia GPUs for their proprietary tech.
Nvidia may be forced to adopt Freesync soon since Freesync is being so widely adopted, and most TVs today are capable of it with a firmware update that's likely to come with Xbox Scorpio getting Freesync support.

>>60167035
Who said it isn't worth while? Its objectively the best price/performance ratio out there.

Can someone rate my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HDxyTH

Also, 1400 is definitely worth it, considering that when overclocked to 4 ghz with a mid-range gpu it performs exactly the same as a 1500x overclocked to 4 ghz. (https://youtu.be/9KB1cZJLBVM)

>>60166920
>buys white psu
>buys case that hides psu entirely
>buys asus shit
>tops it all off with shit cpu cooler

AMAZING BUILD MY DUDE

>>60166606

>>60167225
Seagate HDDs have the highest failure rate out of the more well known companies.

>>60167225
I work at a computer repair shop.

around 80% of the failed hdds i replace are Seagates.

This is anecodtal evidence, but i personally also have had three of the seven seagate drives i've owned fail.

Take it for what you will, but desu you'd have to pay me to put my data on a seagate drive.

Any recommended cheap 1TB hdd with 7200rpm

>>60167256
What kind of external HDD would you recommend above at least 1TB?

>>60167078
R5 1600
RX580 8GB
16GB RAM
500GB SSD
550-650W PSU

Enjoy your games.

>>60167256
>you'd have to pay me to put my data on a seagate drive
People who buy seagate already do this

>>60166920
for a media center pc, what is a good, quiet cpu cooler? hyper 212 is making too much noise. should i go aio or just a big ass noctua?

>>60167141
You're not going to be overclocking the 1400 to 4ghz with the stock cooler.

If this is a true poorfag build I assume you're playing at 1080p, which means you can save money by getting a 4GB video card instead of 8GB. You could put that money into either an aftermarket cooler or upgrading to the 1500x which comes with a better stock cooler than the 1400.

>>60167295
Any recommendations for a 1080p60hz screen as well?

>>60167320
If you already own the 212, you might be better off just replacing the fan with a better one.

What cpu do you have, what case?

>>60167256
>>60167240
Than which brand should I look into for a 2TB?

>>60167320
if 212 is too loud then your case must have poor airflow and its throttling to keep the internal temps down. Perhaps you should instead add/replace the fans inside to something more efficient. You can even replace the 212's fan if you want.

>>60167358
>>60167387
thermaltake core v21 matx cube. now that i think about it, im probably gonna just replace the shitty ass 200mm fan and 3pin 120mm in the pack.

cpu is 4670k ocd to 4.2ghz at 1.2v

Well here it is, tell me how I did.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NbTXGf

its the second one i have started to build but I feel like I might be putting too much into the mobo
also not sure how I feel about the single fan GPU as i have only ever used two fan versions but the power is more what I want. definitely want to try the Ryzen though

Also I'm not too sure about my RAM selection
I just want to be able to listen to music and browse internet and play games decently some multitasking would be good

Ultimately want to be under a grand if its possible

>>60167366

Western Digital has been pretty good for me overall
no failures... yet

>>60167355
Lots of options there, depending on how much you want to spend.

Samsung has been releasing a few good monitors recently - consider the S24E370DL or C24F390 for modestly priced 1080p.

Or just find an IPS / VA panel with good reviews that fits your budget.

>>60167435
With that kind of setup you could definitely get quieter by going with a bigger cooler and quieter fan - the 212 might be struggling a bit with OC, the case should have plenty of airflow.

I'm looking to set up a nice little HTPC that can also emu most things such as Dolphin, cemu, and pcsx2. Would this be able to pull it's weight?

I would be getting the Crucial 2x4, but the site doesn't have it for some reason. The 560 is what I'm currently using on another computer and I have just a generic 450W PSU laying around so I planned on migrating those.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GbVsCy

>>60167576
200$ for monitor preferebly 150$~

Its impossible for me to connect my ethernet cable into my pc so im playing with wifi usb so my question is does momboard Fatal1ty AB350 K4 supports wifi?

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What's a budget case that can fit a 170mm tall cpu cooler?

How much of an improvement are 7200 rpm HDDs over 5400? Also, I've heard they're pretty noisy?

>>60167741
Also must have ability to slot a DVD drive

>>60167295
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TYhRbj
hows it look,
rather not get a 500gb SSD, so i just opted for a 120gb to put my OS on and 1tb blue.

>>60167796
What third world country do you live in Anon?

>>60167796
>DVD drive
>2017

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>>60167870
>>60167883
I want to watch some of my DVD's on my pc?

>>60167576
>With that kind of setup you could definitely get quieter by going with a bigger cooler and quieter fan
just picked up 3x nanoxia DS 140mm fans. lets see how quieter itll get.

>>60167924
external dvd drives negro

>>60167685
Anyone know? I am one click away from ordering it just waiting for confirmation

Thanks in advance

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>shitting on dvd drives
>when they are still the more reliable way to install an OS

>>60167977
>what's usb

>>60167977
This, USB install is a meme and DVD's are cheap nowadays. They are also a good way to back up data.

>>60167990
the inferior install method

>>60168014
It just werks

>no need to buy dvd discs to burn

>>60167935
>>60167685
That motherboard does not have integrated WIFI.

>>60168033
until it doesn't which was a notorious problem with windows 7 and some incompatible flash drives

>>60168073
So that means my WIFI usb will not work on it? Which momboard you reccomend with similar price with wifi?

Damn this is disappointing

>>60167772
7200rpm has been the desktop standard for like, 15 years, they are significantly faster than 5400. Some are noisier than others.

>>60167814
Looks pretty good. I would bump the RAM up to a 3200mhz kit - it's a bit hit or miss right now whether or not it will actually work at that speed but I still think it's worth it, especially since you should be able to get some for even less than the price of the 2666.

The cooler is overkill unless you're planning to overclock to 3.8ghz+, but it will at least be quiet as fuck.

>>60168118
The USB stick will work. It should work with literally any motherboard. I'm just sayin the motherboard itself doesn't have WIFI so you will need either an extra WIFI card or WIFI usb.

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>>60167082
>Nvidia may be forced to adopt Freesync soon
Glad to hear that. I hate slimy fucking companies that just fuck their customers as hard as possible.

If you want adaptive sync at any price point below $300, AMD wins. Period. By a large margin, too. Because Nvidia forces monitor manufacturers to pay $100 for the Gsync module, which is *literally* objectively worse than Freesync in every way.

Fuck Nvidia. Fuck fanboys too.

>>60168158
Which is better for more stable and faster connection? WIfi card or wifi usb?

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Is it just me, or is this a fucking retarded case?

>>60167355
I'd just go ahead and get a 75Hz Freesync monitor since they're only like $115 for cheap ones.
Or actually get something of better quality since you have the money and might actually appreciate the better quality picture more than LE FAST COMPOOTER

>>60168195
I like vertical PCI when it makes it slimmer. But that's even wider. lmao.
It's an okay idea. Terrible execution.

>>60168182
Generally a wifi card will get a better connection because they actually have antennas, and they usually have the hardware to support faster transfer speeds.

Whether or not it makes a difference depends on how far you are from your wireless point, what speeds and connection types your wireless point supports, and what your current USB is rated to handle.

>>60168158
Recommend a cooler then?

>>60168236
Im not far away, im using 10$ shitty TP LINK Wifi (it has antenna) usb and my connection is 90%+, download speed 52mbs and upload 11mbs

>just installed a CLC
>it's running cooler than my custom loop at ambient temps
pretty amazing, first time i've seen my CPU at sub 30C in a while, still, good ambient temps doesn't mean good OC temps, going to let the thermal paste rest for a bit then i'm overclocking.

What's the best low end gpu that can do 4K/60fps NON-gaming?

>>60168329
gtx 1080 ti

>>60168255
If you're going to stay on stock speeds, the boxed cooler will probably meet your needs. AMD actually included a pretty decent one with the 1600.

You can always buy an aftermarket one later if you decide the stock is too noisy and/or you want to overclock.

If you're planning to overclock, pretty much any 120mm tower cooler will be sufficient to keep OC load to around 60-65C.

>>60168265
What you have is probably good enough, unless you are experiencing problems with it. If you want to upgrade you could get a TP-Link TL-WDN4800.

>>60168338
Non gaming ie browser word processing, spreadsheets

>>60168357
1080

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>>60168353
Thanks dude

I am really fucking angry because i have to use wifi for gaming, is there a huge difference between wired and wireless conmection even if signal strenght is 90%?

>>60168377
>housefire lake
terrible

>>60168361
Gpu that doesnt have power cords

>>60168158
>>60167772
>7200rpm has been the desktop standard for like, 15 years, they are significantly faster than 5400. Some are noisier than others.
Bzzzt, wrong. The performance difference between 5400 RPM and 7200 is meaningless by any practical sense. 5400 are much quieter and use a little less power. No reason to get a 7200RPM drive unless it's discounted below its equivalent 5400.

>>60168195
It's for YouTube autismos

>>60168329
>>60168357
Motherfucker you do not need a discrete graphics card just to run your computer. The integrated graphics on a G4560 would run 4K. Just use whatever's integrated into your CPU.

What's the best 16GB RAM chips to go with a Ryzen 1700 build?

>>60168381
Not that much. Wireless has progressed massively over the last 10 years. Most people probably wouldn't even notice the difference anymore between a good wireless setup and a wired setup.

>>60168413
Now you're just trolling.

>>60168467
G.skill flareX or ripjaws V

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>>60168471
>Now you're just trolling.

Not trolling at all, 72000 RPM is a meaningless difference now that SSDs are mainstream.

There are two possible situations:
1) You have to use a hard drive as a boot drive because you can't afford an SSD

2) You're just using a hard drive as bulk storage

In situation 1, your boot times and load times are going to be terrible regardless of what hard drive you use. Yeah, maybe a 7200 will shave 2 seconds off your computer boot time, but shaving 2 seconds off of a 40 second boot is meaningless and not worth the much, much louder drive.

In situation 2, performance doesn't matter that much to begin with. You're just storing movies or rarely-used programs. You might as well go with the cooler, much *much* quieter 5400 drive.

>>60168377
$1200 PC with 2133MHz RAM. Pathetic.

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>>60168529
>spending 50% more on already expensive memory for literally sub-5% better performance

Memoryfags are the worst.

>>60167188
That Noctua cooler is the best mah dude

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236660

is this the best IPS 1440p 144+hz monitor?

>>60168494
Does frequency matter much with Ryzen?

>>60168529
How many more fps would he get with 3200mhz ram?

>>60168516
If you are using a HDD as a primary disk, a 7200 is going to be at least 30% faster than a 5400 - this means your 40 second boot becomes a 26 second boot. It means a non-negligible difference for booting, loading software, copying or moving files; meaningfully faster for everything. Back when HDDs were the primary storage device people did everything they could to try and get around the massive bottleneck that they present - including getting 10kRPM drives or using ramdrives. Even a 7200RPM HDD bottleneck is huge, and 5400 is adding a shitload more on top of that.

Or, if you have an SSD and you're using the HDD for bulk storage, you could argue that getting a 5400 is worth it to save money, maybe, but a bulk storage drive is going to be sitting idle most of the time, so heat, noise and power are pretty much also meaningless, and the times when you do have to use it to manage large amounts of data (which you will, since that's the entire point of having a large bulk storage drive) it is going to be slower than molassas.

>>60168602
How much does he even really need?

>>60168565
Yes. If you're going for 2x16GB, you want 2667MHz(faster probably isn't going to happen right now). If you're going for 2x8GB, you want 3200MHz. With Intel, you want the fastest modules for your required capacity on your motherboard vendor's QVL that aren't absurdly expensive.

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>>60168616
I disagree with you

>>60168685
Fine, be that way.

>>60167977
What kind of old dinosaur do you live on?
Most motherboard past 2011 has no issues.

Most laptop nowadays comes without a DVD drive.

I ditched DVDs years ago.
External HDDs, internal HDDs and USB keys fo' lyfe bae

>>60168543
It's 4% more total build cost for 5-20% better performance. You fail at math.

>>60168553
It's inherently not the best since it's GSync.

>>60168730
I heard Freesync was garbo compared to Gsync.

>>60168722
What kind of rig you got going on right now? Any specific kind of +1TB External HDD that would be good?

>>60168669
If you're gonna use adaptive frame sync, every frame is valuable, but I really don't think ram freq impacts FPS that significantly to justify the value.

>>60168730
>It's inherently not the best since it's GSync.
>>60168750
>I heard Freesync was garbo compared to Gsync.

It really doesn't matter.

If you have an AMD card, get freesync. If you have an nvidia card, get gsync.

You'd be absolutely stupid to buy a freesync monitor and hook it up to an nvidia card, for the sake of $100-200 (shouldn't have bought nvidia if you can't afford that), adaptive frame sync is amazing tech.

>>60168730
Can you actually demonstrate that 5-20% performance boost? Over let's say 5 games, no limit on their age.

>>60168796
So how is this monitor?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q

>>60168012
>This, USB install is a meme and DVD's are cheap nowadays. They are also a good way to back up data.

worst post in the entire thread, you're a dumb nigger.

>>60168824
If I were going to get a new monitor right now, that's what I would get (I am an nvidiot). Personally I'm waiting for the 4k 144hz HDR gsync monitors to come to a reasonable price.

>>60168835
Can any graphics cards even power 4k 144hz yet?

>>60168846
nah, 2080ti or 3080ti will be out by then though.

Yeah... get a nice case if you like. But really what are you going to be doing? Looking at a computer case or looking at a monitor? Get good peripherals.

>>60168865
Ahh, I see. Is IPS that big of an upgrade over TN?

I was looking at this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg

Since it's actually decent colors and not meme-red.

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>>60166954
anything bitfenix, though it seems to be used less and less

Is the 1700 to go to CPU for games and general productivity

>>60168899
7700k

I was planning to buy PC shit last year but ended up not doing it. I plan to build a PC within the next 2 weeks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KX87qk

How is this looking? anything better to replace or something that is cheaper but the same performance? I plan to stick with the i7 7700k because I can get it for $250 with no sales tax where I live

I've got a corsair cx 500w and i want to buy a msi 1060 6gb but it requires a 8pin and my psu use a 6+2 pin. Anybody with that psu can help me please?

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>>60168958
6+2=8

EURGHHR?!?! kys mah boi

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Gaming. Tell me /g/uys did I do good? Will this system last me awhile?

>>60168909
No corelets pls

>>60168893
I have a 144hz TN at home and a 60hz IPS at work, the colours on the IPS are fantastic but it's nothing compared to the HDR tvs I've seen.

>>60168958
>>60168969
samefag

>>60168973
in my opinion, i would get a cheaper SSD and cheaper memory, that way i would be able to afford the gtx1080

>>60168973
Get an rx 580

>>60168983
tv's are only like 50hz

>>60168999
Yeah, im an amateur pc gamer. I was going foe cheap but effective thats why i didnt go witb the 1080

Is the corsair cx 500w compatible with the msi gtx 1060? Thanks for the help.

>>60169040
Help yourself and figure out if it has enough 6 and/or 8 pin power connectors as the 1060 you're getting has.

What's the most powerful mini itx you can make? I'm in a military barracks and don't want a fuckhuge setup for when I move.

Playing bf1, arma and other shit like that.

Other choice is a 2k laptop.

>>60169040
the 1060 is least powerful pascal based gpu which nvidia recommends a minimum PSU of 400watts

>>60169015
Can you explain why you suggest it?

>>60169055
you can fit a 1080TI into a mini ITX case lol

>>60169034
well why wouldn't you? 8gb of RAM and 1080, the 1060 3gb is so gimped.

>>60169053
It has a 6+2 pin can use that? Sorry i just wanna be sure before spending all that money.

>>60169099
Yes 8 pins typically split off into 6+2.

>>60169108
Thank you

>>60169084
Is this shit even practical? I've been away from research for quite some time now.

If I can cram a 1070 in that tiny of a space, then fuck a laptop.

do people pay other people to build PC's for them? thinking about starting my own business

>>60169134
yeah dude lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2W0Lsf7hec&t=513s

>>60168937
Consider whether a Define C would fit your needs better than the R5.

>>60169134
Some mITX cases fit fullsize graphics cards and allow them to vent directly out of the case, so there's no real heat issues.

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>>60169150
Being tech dood where I work paid off in that I've built PC's for 6 coworkers and service them as needed. $50-$100 a pop for builds, $30+ for any repairs or otherwise. Cool $50 to reinstall printer drivers or $30 to pull a CMOS battery. And these are the people I work with. I certainly want to start my own business as well. I just don't have any formal certifications. Not that I think I need any though.

>>60166920
guys where do you guys go to buy your parts?
i normally order from newegg.com
any other sources?

OR PLEASE GIVE ME BULK WHOLE SALE SOURCES

>>60169206
You're not buying quantities in the 100's so you won't be getting bulk sale prices.

Tiger direct
Amazon
Superbiiz
Outletpc
Microcenter

Newegg is usually the best though, especially if you don't have to pay sales tax in your state for them.

>>60169174
I wasn't even aware of the Define C, it looks good. I think I might switch the R5 for that, since I don't plan to have any optical drives.

>>60168937
Anyone else have any other suggestions or review for my PC list?

>>60169150
God damn, that build just makes me smile it's great

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>>60167977
>he doesn't have a flash drive with a custom Win 7 iso w/ integrated USB 3 drivers

>>60166920
Built my PC tonight.

1070 GTX
Ryzen 1700
16GB DDR4 3000
250GB SSD
2TB HDD (might need to be RMA'd because it sounds bad)
Asus PRIME X370

for ~$1100 from microcenter

>>60169605
Oh and microcenter price matched amazon and newegg for me.

build me a computer to play world of warcraft at decent fps in a raid environment on a 1440p monitor

Is cryorig H7 meme over or is it still the go to for heatsinks?

How much does having a liquid cooling loop go from the GPU directly to the CPU (or vice versa) without having a radiator in between them impact cooling? I'm curious about water cooling, but it seems way too fucking expensive for what you get (a GPU block that's just a machined piece of metal costs over $100? And an 120mm radiator costs $50+ when there are radiators for my fucking car that cost barely $100?).

What kind of good, moderately priced RAM cards should I get for a build that includes the i7 6700k and the GTX 1070 with possibly a G Sync monitor?

Originally I was thinking the Kingston HyperX Fury Black with DDR4-2133, but after seeing this thread, I'm not too sure.

Can someone answer the questions to people in this thread or what?

>>60169644
Bump, this is especially important for me to be sure of, I'm gonna buy it alongside the 6700k, and I might consider going OC

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Just built this and it won't turn on. When take out the PSU and slightly put it in the machine starts for a split second but doesn't fully come on

>>60169761
sounds like a dead PSU or a connector is not fully in place.

>>60169777
How can I check if PSU is dead? The led lights from my case come on when it's plugged in though

>>60169804
Do you have a multimeter? Do you have another computer that you can swap PSU's with? That's the only way

It could even be your motherboard but a lot of times it points to a bad PSU. The only way to test it is by one by one swapping out pieces and seeing if anything different happens.

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-desktop-intel-core-i7-6950x-32gb-memory-dual-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-480gb-solid-state-drive-4tb-hard-drive-gray/5325501.p?skuId=5325501

is this shit an okay deal if you dont want to make a complex comp? I googled the parts and the profit margin isn't that high

>>60169605
>1070
Fucked up famalan

>>60169833
>not buying a 1060 and playing most games on highest resolution wihile saving yourself 200-400 bucks

>>60169828
>i7 6950X
For what purpose?

>>60169847
cpu's important tho

so is the cryorig h7 a meme or what

>>60169845
>not buying an old video card from ebay while waiting vega

>>60169866
It's a hyper212 evo

>>60169804
take a paper clip and short pins 15 + 16 on the atx connector, if it spins up it's probably okay

>>60169881
hyper212 evo
this became a meme again?

I remember this was the go to CPU cooler back in 2010. why is it popular again?

>>60169886
DO NOT DO THIS YOU WILL ELECTROCUTE YOURSELF!!!!!

>>60169894
Because everything else is overpriced meme technology

>>60169724
I'd go for 3200mhz whether for AMD or Intel which is about where performance starts to level off.

Especially considering the difference between 2133 and 3200 is around $10-15 it is easily worth it.

>>60169644
>>60169734
It's about the same as any other cheap tower cooler, but it's quieter than some. The Hyper 212 for example has comparable performance for less $ but is louder.

Like other entry tower coolers, it is better as a stock-upgrade than for any big OC.

For most overclocking a bigger cooler is preferable.

I'm going to stuff an NH-D15 inside a S340 elite
Wish me luck

>>60169833
How so?

>>60169920
You didn't wait for vega

>>60169828
The profit margin is extremely high. Almost 30%. Not to mention they usually have chinky power supplies or mobos.

>>60169913
How big a cooler are we talking about here? Money wise and size wise considering my case will be a Fractal R4

>>60169996
Cryorig / Hyper 212 is fine. People have been building OC builds with these Coolers just fine. Generally the more expensive coolers are not worth it unless you want things 5 degrees cooler. It's not worth it.

>>60169931
30% isn't that high tho. Standard is like waht 10% and plus you dont have to do the work and get free keyboard and mouse

How can I build my own PLC?

>>60170011
Okay, now as for RAM I've switched out Kingston with G Skill Ripjaw V 3200. This okay?

>>60170041
It's not.about frequency , you need to check the latency as well

>>60166920
Might not be related but I have a 4790k. Do I upgrade to a 7700k or do I just overclock and wait like 5 years?

>>60170066
What kind of OK-ZONE latency am I looking for? These things have around 16.

I'm sorry if I talk like a complete faggot but I feel really at home in /g/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KX87qk any recommendations or anything to switch out

>>60169913
>It's about the same as any other cheap tower cooler, but it's quieter than some. The Hyper 212 for example has comparable performance for less $ but is louder.
>Like other entry tower coolers, it is better as a stock-upgrade than for any big OC.
This isn't true for Ryzen. An H7 is all you need for quiet 3.95-4.1GHz.

That's true for delidlake, though.

>>60170124
Frequency is in hertz (cycles per second). Latencies are in cycles. You want to optimize for latency in seconds, so you want the smallest CAS/frequency number you can reasonably afford.

>>60170015
What work? Assembling a PC takes an hour tops. Picking a list of parts takes an hour tops. KBM can be had as cheap as $20, which is probably the quality of whatever that one ships with.

If you have money to throw away then you could double your GPU horsepower with SLI 1080ti's and more storage for still less the price of that prebuilt.

>>60169909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co2RizQ8U2k

Faggot

>>60170143
The H7 failed to keep up with the 1600x and 1800x overclocks in this review:

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/amd_ryzen_5_7_cpu_cooler_round_up/1

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Hey /pcbg/ please rate my basic bitch poorfag build. I'm trying to build my first gaming PC for under $1000AUD; that's about $750USD.

I was told in the last thread that I ought to replace the LGA 1151 with an AM4, but it seems to make it incompatible with the CPU? Idk what I'm doing obviously.

What I would like to know is there any way I can consolidate price without compromising too much on specs

OR

Are there any outstanding problems with this current build? Cheers.

>>60170101
7700k isn't really an upgrade.

>>60170183
I'm looking at the 1600X OC. How the fuck is 63C max temp at 1.4v not good enough? What a bunch of fucking spergs.

>>60170235
Don't get cheap Corsair PSU. They're garbo.
And get a 500GB SU800 or MX300? Should be significantly cheaper.

>I was told in the last thread that I ought to replace the LGA 1151 with an AM4, but it seems to make it incompatible with the CPU? Idk what I'm doing obviously.
They're probably saying you should get a 1500X. But that'd be like $125 AUD more expensive I think.
Cheaper SSD might offset that. Cheaper mATX case, too.

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>>60170235
Here's a build in aussie-bucks that will be much better, minus the SSD performance.

>>60168894
That one has spoilers so it must be fast, right?

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>>60170343
>>60170235

Here faggot

>>60170301
Yeah I suspected the psu might be too shitty.

>>60170343
Hey thanks man. I am open to waiting for the Ryzen also. So you think ditching the SSD is a good compromise for the better CPU and video card then?

>>60170343
Meh that's not a great value for AUD prices. $60 AUD more for an RX570 over and RX470. He should get the RX470.

>>60170360
Cheers, I think I would be more comfortable sticking with an SSD, I don't care about storage for now, but as >>60170397 has said I am not convinced that the RX570 will be worth the margin of the RX470, for me

>>60166920
why not install OS on NVMe?

>>60170419
I'd do that build >>60170343 said but get a cheaper SSD like the SU800 or MX300. They are 97-99% as fast, very reliable, but much cheaper in the US. And the RX470.
The motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU and such in that build are otherwise good.

>>60167188
>>buys white psu
>>buys case that hides psu entirely
Nothing wrong with that. Especially that last part.

>>buys asus shit
Better than a majority of asrock or gigabyte. And not as gimmicky as msi.

>>60170445
Awesome, that's just what I'm thinking

>>60168450
But I have 1700

>>60167082
So you're saying I shouldn't buy a GSYNC 4K monitor because in a few years(?) it might "lose" to freesync which then will become the universal standard?

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>>60168168
>Fuck fanboys too
you fakin wot m8, say that to my face again I'll smack ya gob in.

Best 1080p 60hz monitor to get for a first build?

There's no monitor thread so I figured I'd ask here.

I want a 32" 144hz monitor and my options are these:

AOC AGON AG322FCX
ViewSonic XG3202-C
ASUS VA326H
BenQ EX3200R

All are 1800R curvature, but I have no idea which would have the better panel. Can someone point me in the right direction of things to look for?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R4pZKZ

Looking to revamp my build. It will be a VR Racing Sim platform (or the big monitor for non VR programs)

>>60170426
Because It's "Not Very Memory efficient"

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I NEED ATX CASE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT JUST /WERK/ AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nk63kT

looking for high end gayman at 1080p 60FPS. I heard the ryzen 5 1600 is good enough to be comparable to the i5 and even outdoing it at times with optimized games, but the RX 580 seems a little shaky so I went ahead and made the leap to the 1070. I know the mobo is questionable but I'll worry about that after I picked the CPU and GPU well. Will this CPU + GPU match cause any trouble?

>>60170572
Freesync already is the universal standard.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#1.2a

>>60170925
>Freesync already is the universal standard.
lol

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>Just google image PC cases to see what other people have
>Come across this
Now don't get me wrong, this interest me, but this can't be good for the PC or the figures right?

>>60170803
anyone? I rarely see people saying anything about AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU pairings

>>60170572
gsync already lost to freesync when freesync offered everything gsync does except for free. i see people still buying "ROG ELITE XXX GAYMEN EDITION" freesync monitors for close to $800, i got the same monitor except with freesync and 144hz for only $400.
nvidiots get ripped off hard.

>>60171129
>"ROG ELITE XXX GAYMEN EDITION" gsync* monitors

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So I'm considering upgrading my PC, and currently I'm looking at mainly the CPU, RAM and graphics card for upgrades but I wanted to ask for more opinions and see if I should keep in mind anything else when looking for new parts. I'm gonna get a new case for sure since mine got dented, but that one was my fault

As it is right now this is what I currently have in my PC

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard

Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card

EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

ADATA SU900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

x2 HP27xw monitors

Motherboard recs? Looking at i5 7700K, GTX 1070 and 16GB of RAM.

>>60171202
*i5 7600K. Mistyped.

>>60171193
Sounds like you'll be spending a lot of money for minimal gains.

If you game, all you need is a new GPU. Upgrading the i5 is not worth the money.

Im a total newb at this and am building my first PC
Want to Game and stream a little

Budget is around 1000 CAD ( Around 800usd)

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6hY4hq

Thanks in advance

So should I save $500, save $1000, or just get a credit card and get one now?
Gaming, I don't need tops of the top, but I want it to be worth it. And at least a few years future proof

>>60171222
True enough, the GPU seems like the main thing really. I did forget to mention there are two stick of ram though if that matters at all.

>>60171226
Get the RX 580 instead for the GPU. Improved performance for a little pocket change won't hurt

>1 DIMM is significantly slower than 2 DIMMs

what does this mean? One ram stick is slower than 2? man I was told to only get 1 fk this shit

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mezope/saved/mykHxr
Using it for competitive tf2 and some quake champions when it's out, as well as singleplayer games and some lighter co-op games.
I refined it a few days ago after some advice here
Budget is <850 USD, anything else I should do before I pull the trigger on this?

>>60171335
Also should clarify the single channel memory is for upgradability on the mobo

>>60170622

Bump, can anyone point me a good direction?

I'm set on the monitor, but I'm unsure of the PSU, RAM, and the cooler.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QXhnJV
Any recommandations?

Making a first build here. I am not planning to game on this machine, just do office stuff and programming on it (have a C++ class soon).

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4cBsCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4cBsCy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($76.08 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $470.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-02 02:52 EDT-0400

>>60171377

That's a big case for such a small motherboard

>>60171409
For you.

I'm building my first gaming pc and am trying to keep it under $700. Is the Ryzen 5 1400 really worth the ~$120 more than the G4560?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PQBsCy
i7-6700
$850
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTVrf8
R5 1600
$800

Someone please reccomend me a good mATX case. I really need help and I will take any reccomendations honestly.

>>60171575
What are your preferences? Big GPU? Aesthetics? Airflow? Silence? Maximum ricing?

I have budget of around 1500-1700 dollars, I want a ryzen cpu. Can someone recommend what cpu and gpu to get? Is there any reason not to get 2 x AMD 480s or should Iget 1070 or even 1080?

>>60171613
Get a 1600 or 1700 and wait for Vega. Therecs no point in buying a GTX or crossfire AMD now.

>>60166920
Looking to build a mITX/sff PC

Gaming: Borderlands/Rocket league, 1080p 60fps
Software: Solidworks, Blender
Budget: £1000-1150

Was thinking r5 1600 + rx480 in a phantex itx but can't seem to find any mitx am4 motherboards, anyone no know roughly how long I'd have to wait for them to become available?

>>60171632
how many weeks until vega?

why's this the only industry when they don't give out release dates? such bullshit. Might as well wait then.

>>60166920
I'm trying to build a machine for number crunching, budget is around 2k.

I'll probably won't need a video card since I will be SSHing to it (though I do want CUDA support)

>>60171640
Vega will release at Computex. If you can't wait then buy some shitty used GPU that just works until Vega release.

>>60169761
Try taking the RAM out, try booting, then put the RAM in again.

>>60170722
CoolerMaster MasterBox 5

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reminder that we're help to help with already existing builds, we won't do it for you.
so to all the people saying "i want to do x, my budget is y" without sending any pcpartpicker list, don't expect anyone to help you

>>60171519
Both looks good to me, pick the 1600 if you do anything that likes more cores (heavy multi tasking, content creation), but the i7 seems to be a wiser choice otherwise

>>60171637
>>60171751
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MFqKgL

This is an alternative list using i7; would it be worth waiting around for am4 itx boards to drop (UK)

>>60171393
This does look good for a cheap programming build, go for it

I just ordered a new case, aio, and 2400mhz memory....for my 4790k

I'm probably gonna send it back, cause my scythe mugen4 pcgh can rock it at 1,250mv @ 4.5 ghz at about 75C max during full load (bout 40-50 while gaming), and it's dead silent.

RAM, I'm not so sure, but the switch from a 4690k to 4790k was very minimal (4.6ghz on the i5) even in games like PUBG, though BF1 feels a lot smoother in 64 conquest. So ram will probably make even less of an impact.

>>60171377
I'd recommend a better mobo because the one you have is quite the budget one. Granted, it has two PCIex16, but it won't overclock very well. Try getting an asus prime b350m-a or b350 plus, they're both pretty good and shouldn't be that much more expensive. Those two will last you quite longer than the one you picked.

>>60171335
Considering how much your budget is limiting you no, there's no room to improve
go for it

>>60171328
1 is cheaper but 2 give you dual channel which means 2x the memory bandwidth

>>60171727
so we're talking a couple weeks after Computex or will they release to public right after showcasing it?

upgraded my cpu a while back (2 years i think) and i just been using the stock cooler for it (i7 4790k) but i runned some tests and saw that all the cores were running at 90c wtf? i got a scythe kabuto cpu cooler that i had on my last build but since im lazy i never bought another thermal paste.
anyway i ordered a tube of paste and dusted off the old cpu cooler which i think was good enough but, heres the link to it
http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/cpu-cooler/kabuto-cpu-cooler.html
question is, should i just buy a new cpu cooler? or just go with what i have?

>>60171226
Get two ram sticks instead of just one, but otherwise it does look good. Your build doesn't need 650w though (500w will suffice) so if you want to save some money, you can downgrade the psu. Otherwise everything good.

Isn't the build you linked literally half of your budget though?

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>>60171751
I don't expect anything but if some dweeb wants to help me out I ain't gonna stop him

not my fault y'all are buncha beta dweebs HAHAHAHA

>>60171193
everything looks perfectly fine there, you wouldn't see much difference upgrading anything but the GPU like that other anon said

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>>60170803
one last bump because I wanna know if the Ryzen 5 1600 is gonna hold up well. would an i7 be better? upgrading it in the future would require me to ditch both my mobo alongside the CPU unless I'm getting yet another AMD one, so I wanna make sure the 1600 will last with good performance

>>60171858
Ask AMD, i have no idea and since AMD marketing department is a group of complete retards probably no one will know until after Computex.

>>60171496 >>60171496
>>60171496

GAMING IS NOT FOR POOR PEOPLE ALRIGHT? G4560 WILL BE COMPLETELY OBSOLETE IN JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS GO PLAY IN THE MUD OR WHATEVER YOU PIECE OF SHIT

PS GET THE R5 1600 OR GO HOME YOU KEK

>>60171883
Even the best gaming cpu, 7700k, reaches 75+% usage in games, while the R5 1600 will stay around 40 ~ 50%. An i7 (whichever) would give you more framerate but will end up becoming the bottleneck sooner. I'd personally recommend the R5 1600

>Will this CPU + GPU match cause any trouble?
Nvidia has a rare bug when paired with 6+ cores cpu where their gpu will have lower % usage than it should, causing lower framerates. It has only be noticed in Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 & Rocket League so far, no other game seems to have this problem

>>60170622
It does look great for a very high end build, not much else to say about this. Can't see any flaw.

>>60171781
Biostar has announced one 2 weeks ago and i saw some guy in here say that they released yesterday, but i haven't seen it in any online store so far so no idea.

The list you sent is good, except for the 1 stick of RAM but i'm fairly sure you're doing this for upgradeability purposes which is fine.

>>60171941
I can finally sleep. thanks anon. on a side note, I keep hearing the term "bottleneck" being tossed around but never quite got a solid definition since I'm a moron. Does it mean the CPU will end up outdated sooner than later because of assorted reasons (or maybe it already is outdated) and, as a result, holds back the GPU?

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rate my build

>>60171979
Oh ok, I'll wait a couple of weeks more then and see what happens.. yeah the ram I put as 1 stick for now and will add a second later depending on budget, cheers

>>60171866
> but i runned some tests and saw that all the cores were running at 90c wtf?
stock cooler on K versions is asking for your cpu to melt, they heat way too much for it. It's probably the stock cooler + uncleaned heatsink of the cooler that made it reach such high temperatures
>go with what i have
yes, not much reason to upgrade, your coolers is good. You can always buy a 140mm PWM fan and slap it on the heatsink where the existing fan already is (though you might have to do some sorcery to make it stick to it) if you want to upgrade

>>60171985
When something becomes a bottleneck, it means that specific thing will be the one and only thing in your build preventing you from achieving higher performances. A weak CPU will prevent a good GPU from being used to it's maximum, and the other way around. Sometimes it may be other parts of your builds limiting you such as the PSU not feeding enough the GPU, your motherboard refusing to reach the boost clock of your CPU, an extremely slow hard drive causing stutter, etc etc

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>>60171989

>>60172003
hmm being getting weird crashes lately while running tales of berseria for fucks sake, dont know if coz of bad optimized game or my rig but yeah it made me scared so i runned a benchmark on witcher 3 and saw those cpu temps plus also my r9 270 asking to be killed.
time to dig deep and upgrade but will save on the cooler than thanks buddy.

>>60172073
most likely sounds like a system safety shutdown for thermal reasons

>>60171903
Rude. Thanks though.

>>60172214
g4560 is for budget builds or htpc, it's fine for light gaming but shits the bed really fast. You'd have to close some if not all your programs before starting a game to avoid massive stutters and even then, in CPU heavy games like GTA V it's going to be a stutter fest
It's for budget only

>>60172249
Ah fair enough. That said I think I will stick with the 1400 and at least get on an AM4 mobo for now, with scope to upgrade down the track. I'm seriously too poor to spend $300AUD on the 1600 rn

>>60172018
>and the other way around
please stop

>>60172402
ok i shoudln't have written that, that was poor wording

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Would this be overkill? I want overpressure and the front intakes seem to be almost worthless in airflow thanks to the front panel having such small holes for air.

Trying to decide between the 1400 or 1500 dollar build on here or a 17.3 laptop.

http://techbuyersguru.com/tbg-pc-build-comparison-page

I live in a military barracks and don't have any peripherals right now. I know I'll move at least 2x before the end of the year and im super torn.

>>60172741
>Trying to decide between the 1400 or 1500 dollar build
Why not build yourself? It would end up much cheaper and be more fit for you
Either a gaming laptop or either a mini/micro-ATX build considering you live in military barracks
I'm more tempted to say laptop because it requires no setup at all, just a wired mouse and a desk

>>60172790
Well, the plan would be to use it as a guide.

Laptop would be the msi-gt72vr-dominator-pro-450. I don't really need mobility, but like I said I will be moving 2x within the next 8 months. It seems like this msi is the best desktop replacement in my budget. ~ $2k

>>60169761

If the LED's are working but the system isn't turning on then it could be that you haven't put your case wires in their proper place in the front panel connector. Make sure your front panel connections are in the correct place; power switch, LED's, reset switch etc.

please recommend me a gpu for my new build. i will buy 1440p monitor and not interested in games so much, but i would like to play some new vegas with hi res textures and all that stuff

>>60170961
It'll restrict airflow a little bit but with that cable management & those 80mm fans i cant image there is much airflow to begin with.

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hi guys, pls rate dont discriminate

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>>60172947
Why the R7 1700?
Also if you're so focused on getting such a high end build, getting 3000 / 3200MHz ram might not be a bad idea. Ryzen loves it.

>>60172947
Check RAM compatibility to make sure you don't have to underclock. Ryzen is still a bit picky with memory. Also which monitor do you plan on playing? That's a pretty beefy GPU.

>>60172978
>Check RAM compatibility to make sure you don't have to underclock
That's 2666MHz though, he shouldn't be getting any problem with it

>>60172572
enjoy heatpockets, you always want more out than in famalam

>>60173008
>more out than in famalam
that's asking for dust to go in

>>60173013
what is a dustfilter?

>>60173027
not gonna filter all the dust

Shoutout to my pc for being my ai gf

>>60173059
>tfw no ai gf

>>60173058
dude always more out than in and that much in creates heat pockets, so don't cry about high temps afterwards

Upgrading to Ryzen 5 but want to stay on Windows 7. If I use an Asus B350 Plus and the Ryzen 5 1600 on Windows 7 does that mean I won't be able to take advantage of any new BIOS updates for the Ryzen?

>>60173093
>>60173013
Sorry, I mean the reason I want more in, not out. I'm not going to overclock a whole bunch, so I doubt I have to worry about heat pockets all that much.

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>>60173093
>>60173105
This is my current setup
3x 140mm intake, 2x140mm exhaust

Ryzen R7 1700 oc'd to 3.7GHz@1,225v, R9 280
Currently running both prime95 & furmark for 6 minutes now, both have stabilised at respectively 69°C and 66°C

>>60172977
It was the cheapest R7, what would you recommend?

>>60172992
I'd get higher but the MB's specs say it only supports up to 2666MHz.

>>60173128
>It was the cheapest R7, what would you recommend?
Do you actually need the 8 cores of the R7 cpus?

>>60173136
Probably not, but how does the R5 1600X compare?

>>60173116
I wouldn't have my problem if I had a different case. That one seems to suck air in fine from the bottom and front unlike mine. The P400S has no bottom intakes except for the PSU, and the front intakes are extremely narrow. That's why I'm considering adding one more intake to the middle top.. even though I'm fairly certain that both top slots are designed to be exhausts. The case did come with a filter you can put on the top though.

>>60173189
It has two less cores but is higher clocked, considering you don't need the 8 cores it might certainly be a better choice for you.
At same clocks they perform the same in games and general pc usages.

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>>60173213
Does it look better?

>>60173189

Just get a 1600 which includes a cooler and over clock it to the 3.6Ghz the 1600X offers

>>60173280
R6 1600x comes without cooler so get one
or get a 1600 and get a cooler which will end up cheaper for similar overclock
or get a 1600 and stick to stock cooler which is already decent enough

Your choice

>>60173280

Yes, but see

>>60173293

Also, Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200Mhz is on the qualified vendor list for the B350-Plus, and the Ryzen's performance is improved significantly with 3200Mhz Ram. So I'd recommend that, you'll be able to offset the price too by dropping to the 1600 and using the stock cooler.

how do i upgrade this pile of junk?
https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c01742889

am2+ socket seems compatible with nothing correct me if im wrong, but it's not compatible with am3.

if that's the case, should i swap out the motherboard with something compatible with the Pentium G4400 or Pentium G4560?

idk where to start desu

>>60173280

Also, and this is just my personal decision as I'm building a new pc in the next month or two, I'd recommend waiting for Vega to see how it performs. The 1070 and Ryzen work well in most instances but there have been some example of the two causing framerate drops in certain games. So that might be something to consider too.

>>60173334

New motherboard, ram, processor and graphics card.

>>60173334
YIf you want an actually good upgrade you're gonna have to upgrade CPU, GPU, RAM, Motherboard and PSU, which is gonna cost a lot. You can keep case, hard drive and cd drive.

>>60173371
>>60173361
damn figured, i dont work so money is not somethign i have. thanks

>market has a ton of affordable HDR televisions
>only HDR monitor is a retarded expensive 4k, 144hz gamer monitor

What the fuck?
Should I just buy a TV and use it as a monitor?

>>60173319
Awesome, I'll add that to the list.

>>60173341
I'll look into it thanks.

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>>60166920
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ctturner/saved/8vQsYJ

Criticize the part list for the price. (I already have kb and mouse as well as wifi adapter and speakers.)

I expect you'll find a better CPU for the same price, so just going to inb4 that. I'm not a gaymur, so I have no video card, but I will probably spend some of my money in extra comfy stuff like a very nice comfortable chair and a switchbox to use my TV as a monitor while I sit back with a wireless m and kb. I live in an apartment.

>>60173423
So just a home theater pc then?
You can ditch the cooler

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Did.. did I win the silicon lottery? I just ran Aida64 stress test for 21minutes. got no dips 100% usage the whole time. Temp was hovering around 77-80C max. please rate me

>>60173393

I guess has something to do with input lag

>>60173448
It was so cheap I didn't care. Better safe than sorry.

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>>60173482
well, you can get it, but there's not much point...

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>>60173500
PCPartPicker is kind of a shitty website I guess, because it wouldn't tell me whether or not Intel would give me a cooler with the CPU. Because it was cheaper I thought it might not, but I guess it's safe to assume it would?

Also, I'm worried if DDR4 ram will be incompatible.

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>>60173551
yes, it does give you a cooler with it
>i'm worried if DDR4 ram will be incompatible.
DDR4 is the only type of ram supported by LGA 1151 and the skylake architecture (which the pentium you picked belongs to)

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>>60173574
Gonna just go castrate myself for being so dumb.

>>60166920
what's that thing sitting on top of the m.2 drive?

>>60166920
The autism in this pic is unbearable

>>60173885
You're just buttmad that it has a dynamic but tasteful tricolor scheme and a cleaner, sharper aesthetic than your build.

Hey guys, how is this? Anything I can change or improve on?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>60174179
link the permalink not the URL family

>>60174191
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ytc3kT

Sorry about that

>>60174179
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ytc3kT
you could get a 1tb ssd for like 10$ more (mx300). it's not like you'll notice a difference in speeds.

rx580>gtx1060. also it's still a somewhat budget gpu compared to the rest of your build.

Is cooler fan speed 2000rpm max enough for ryzen 1600x??

It seems to me that 2000rpm is low, am i wrong?

>>60174459
rpm means literally nothing. even intel stock coolers can go up to 2500rpm.

give us a name of the cooler

>>60174477
Cooler artic freezer 12 CO

Can somebody recommend a good laptop for under 700$ with an ssd

>>60174538
Cooler arctic cooling 12co actually

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>>60174538
it'll do the job, but i would consider cryorig h7 instead since it costs the same and should perform better

>>60174555
I just bought a Lenovo Ideapad with an SSD and it's one of the better lappys I've ever had.

What SSD and Intel i7 CPU coolers do you guys recommend?

>>60174683
was it the Lenovo ideapad 310S?

So is rpm on cooler more the better? Why is 1350rpm cooler more expensive than 2000rpm

>>60174863
no it's not. as i said rpm doesn't mean shit. what's important is things like the size of a heatsink, heatpipes, cfm rating.

so a cooler with a bigger heatsink, even if its fan has less rpm, will perform better.

smaller coolers have to compensate their small heatsink (metal that transfers the heat from the cpu) by having a higher rpm (they spin faster).

also the more rpm the louder the cooler is.

>>60174698
crucial mx300, 850 evo, adata su800, sandisk ultra. for cooler see above.

>>60174863
Scythe Fuma + 2x Sans Ace = best

The new CPU cooler to get is the Arctic i32.

Performs better than the Cryorig H7, which performs better than the Hyper 212.

>>60171608
GPU is 240mm. Would prefer not a white case. I don't know much about airflow. Don't caee that much about silence as long as it isn't too unbareably loud. And don't know what ricing means so yeah.

All the help is appreciated.

dead thread

>>60175293
>>60175293
>>60175293
>>60175293

do you need a mount for your SSD or do most modern motherboards allow you to mount it without a 3rd party mount?

I want to get a SSD but on amazon some come with a mount and some don't.