MP3 - we open now edition

Good shit.

>lossy audio

Do anyone besides Applefags actually use that?

>>60164325
pretty much everyone that's not autistic

>>60164325
Yes, everyone else including you

>>60163582
rip ogg

>>60164652
Autismos do as well, only placebofags/audiophools avoid it

too late everybody uses opus now

>>60164721
Vorbis is great. I'd prefer opus but there's no HW support on my player.

>>60164850
Tbqh I often find myself in situation where I can't find FLAC so I can't reencode.
For example it's impossible to find Bruce Dickinson's discography in FLAC format so you have to satisfy yourself with mp3.

>>60164887
Anyone else uses vorbis at -q4 or -q5?

>>60164930
no ur the first

Autists are still going to use their unsupported formats as if the format has any bearing on audio quality when music has been digitally recorded and produced for the last 30 years.

I guess LAME is finally an encoder now eh

Either way it's good that MP3 is now Stallman approved

>>60163582
wtf i love mp3 now

>>60164325
Pretty common desu. It is a good lossy format[Citation Needed]

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-audio-format-matters.en.html

HAHAHA THIS IS NOW IRRELEVANT

But who is going to listen Richard Stallman's OGG version of the Free Software song?

https://www.gnu.org/music/free-software-song.ogg

>>60163582
Anyone got a screenshot of the link? Won't load for me.

>>60163582
>shitty deprecated legacy format becomes open
>when opus is already a thing
okay?

>>60166603
It does matter though, with better formats you can have the same quality with less disk space taken up.

>>60168121

Disk space is cheap and getting cheaper, further making autist formats redundant

>>60164325
applefags use AAC.

>>60163582
deprecated garbage

>>60168221
Which is lossy

>>60168264
and it's still better than mp3

>>60168330
I never said otherwise.

>>60163582
MPEG HEVC, xHE-AAC end HVXC are the state of the art.

In reality it makes no difference. I've never paid for music and never will*

*Unless it's a concert.

>>60168469
this

AWW YEA

>>60168221
>>60164325
Apple does have a Lossless format, though it isnt the most commonly used

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless

Who gives a shit? Vorbis and Opus are better.

>>60164850
>>60171123
Most people still use MP3. It's still the most popular and ubiquitous music format.

I literally can not listen to anything thats not a FLAC, I'm not even an audiophile

What does that even mean? If I record my own fart and store it as mp3 should I have been paying royalties?

>>60171174
It means that no developer or manufacturer will have to pay royalties to legally include MP3 support in their products ever again. MP3 is no longer a proprietary format. This is huge for the Linux community because most distros wouldn't include MP3 support because of these patents. Now anyone can include MP3 support anywhere and there isn't anyone who can do anything about it.

MP3 V0 is pretty decent and transparent.

>>60171199
Mint already had built-in mp3 support because it isn't made by and for autistic people

Guys, i'm building a library of old recordings that can only be found on YouTube.
I have two options for the audio stream: m4a and webm. The second is almost always of higher quality, like 180kbps vs 128kbps (m4a)

What do i download? What format is superior?

>>60171487
WebM. It's free and open format.
m4a supposedly has better quality though.
I really hope WebM becomes mainstream format for both video and audio.

why use opus over mp3 or aac? opus/vorbis has shit tag support

>2017
>Using anything but FLAC
Kek <-- You are here
Kek
Kek
Kek

>>60163582
opus > mp3

>>60171815
Vorbiscomment is far better than shit mess called ID3. How many incompatible versions are available?

so now there's even fewer reasons to use Vorbis/Opus? i've considered transitioning to special snowflake formats but never felt like running into situations where they're not supported.

>>60172620
>running into situations where they're not supported
not a thing since 2015 or so

>>60172669
i presume Opus requires a decoder to be present on the system to be played back, which won't be something any normie would have. and although i haven't played it in 3-4 years, Audiosurf comes to mind as something that wouldn't support Opus. the efficiency is only obvious at lower bitrates anyway, and i'm a V0 guy...

>>60172772
Opus at 160kbps would beat LAME V0 on critical samples such as castanets, applause, harpsichord and Fatboy Slim.

>>60172772
Opus 128kbps vbr is roughly equal to mp3 v0 at half the file size anyway.

>>60171829
I like having 5 times bigger library of music in same amount of storage without any perceivable loss of quality more, thanks

>>60172669
the first 'mp3' player i got, literally the cheapest chinese $40 thing, back in around 2002/2003, supported vorbis

File: FLAC_MP3VBR.png (2MB, 2528x614px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2528x614px

>>60163582
MP3 VBR is the best lossy format

>>60173096
ONLY FLAC

>>6017309
Oh, you again.

http://qiita.com/keiya/items/7d14adff689207a63b4b

File: Untitled.png (4KB, 592x69px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 592x69px

>>60173132
That mp3 is almost four times smaller than the flac.

>>60173171
You can achieve the better perceptual quality than MP3 at 2/3 bitrate with Opus.

>>60173274
>Opus
Is that piece of shit that can't even do 44100Hz natively?

>>60173171
If you have good amp dac and headphones it's worth it , thats the same as jpg vs raw

Daily reminder that audio bitrates above 130kb/s for stereo with decent codecs is pure placebo

>>60173295
You cannot hear the difference of those sampling rates, anyways. MP3's hybrid transform(subbband + MDCT) would be much problematic.

>>60173314
Would be more like JPG vs PNG. RAW is different, it's the actual sensor data at a given time.

>>60173347
I'll keep the fromat which does not impose an unnecessary resampling, tyvm

>>60173365
Your hardware might resample signals to 48000Hz before output, though.

>>60173432
It doesn't

>>60173465
All of them? Such DACs are much common, unfortunately to you.

>>60173498
Yes, it outputs to 44100Hz, which is the standard

>>60173516
44100 -> 48000 occurs internally for many DACs before analog output.

>>60173554
That does not justify to crap on your music library with that piece of trash codec.

>>60173591
bump

>>60173591
Good resampling is inaudible crap. Just try ABX.

>>60173669
No resampling is even better. I trust mathematics, not my ears.

>>60163582

Obsolete format. Nobody who cares about music gives a fuck about it anymore.

/thread

>>60173676
Lossless format is the way to go, then. Any lossy codec changes the signal after all.

>>60173711
I use my Nexus 4 connected to the aux jack in my car to listen to music. It's only got 16GB of storage. I'm not going to use flac.

>>60164325
I use it. It occupies smaller space and it's pretty decent. I use also Bluetooth headphones, A2DP can transfer only compressed sound of MP3 quality.

>>60173777
i use m2bt and using flac with it

>>60173745
AAC and Vorbis are supported by it and they are better than MP3.

>an exploit in mp3 format that allow running unauthorized executables have been found