Is Discord the IRC of current times?

It is the AIM of current times.

Discord is for faggots

>>60159834
Matrix is the IRC of current times.
Discord is babbies first WebRTC client targeted at /v/, since they will gobble up literally anything, no matter how shitty it is.

>>60161560
>since they will gobble up literally anything, no matter how shitty it is

AMD products, for example

>>60159834
it seems to be okay.
I am not really into it, but it just works.

>>60159834

People love it because its easy to spam memes conveniently but other than that its feature bare and they datamine everything you do.

>>60159834
discord is far more innovative than IRC ever was

IRC contributed literally nothing to technology as a whole, discord literally saved gaming and the internet as a whole

>>60159834
Please no

>>60161712
>discord literally saved gaming

>being a manchild

>>60161712
discord isn't innovative at all, my man.

>>60161275
>>60161560
this

I'd rather use Mumble for VOIP. Free and light software, without all the jew bullshit. Discord is a ghetto for retards though, god bless Discord

>>60161756
t. Retarded hipster

There's no way for me to avoid it because friends refuse to use alternatives. I'd use Mumble, but no one cares enough about my opinion to bother trying it. So Discord it is.

IRC is great and all, but it needs to be updated for the modern world. Shit like uploading pictures, embedding links, etc. is really useful.

>>60161781
host a matrix homeserver, my man.
Riot is plenty normie friendly.
If they don't bite yet, write a cool bot, that wowed my normie friends.

>>60161781
IRC doesn't need to be updated for the modern world, I already lost #news and I'm NOT losing #nibl goddamnit

One of the groups I'm in had an IRC server running for 10 years. Back in 2006 it was expected that a gamer could figure out how to set up an IRC client and understood concepts like ip and ssl. Now these fucking smartphone generations can't do it in 2017 and forced a move to Discord.

>>60161781
>Shit like uploading pictures, embedding links, etc. is really useful.
That stuff belongs in the client. There are several that preview pictures like discord does, I'm sure some will upload to your preferred imagehost too. Don't know what embedding links does.

I don't know why software like discord is so popular. You cannot host your own servers, and you cannot be free of the whims of whoever owns discord. Unlike IRC where you can host your own servers, and you have a choice between different servers, different hosts, and different clients.

>>60162067
it's because /v/ doesn't care about freedom.
they _want_ to be enslaved.

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>>60161734

>>60161574
fuk u
amd best

>>60161756
>>60161781
I've had my own Mumble server for several years and I'm not about to change now, but I think Discord is easily a better option at this point.

+ free
+ easy invite (just click a link)
+ individual tabs for PMs
+ embedded images
+ persistent feed
+ change individual user volumes

The list probably goes on, but I haven't used Discord enough to really know everything it can do. The only reason to use Mumble is that the client is lightweight.

>>60159834
IRC is the IRC of current times

newfaggeto

>there are niggers dumb enough to use discord

>>60162067

> I don't know why software like discord is so popular.

It just werks and there's no need for nerd shit cli crap.
I like it because it keeps casuals and normalfags away from IRC.

I use Discord for D&D
My friends use Discord for D&D
None of us are attached, but we use it because it's easy.
What should I switch to?

>>60162441
raw telnet piped into a file, monitored with tail.

>>60162441
>>60162471
combine that with lame for voice chat.

>>60159834
Discord has absolutely abysmal privacy though, which is the main reason I refuse to use it.

>>60159834
Discord isn't even free software, the fuck are you talking about OP?

>>60162441
Mumble

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>>60161712
Good job on baiting this guys >>60161734 >>60161748

>>60159834
>is software the protocol of our time?
no

>>60162471
Only one of my players would make sense of that.
>>60162519
Kys
>>60162668
But I'm stingy.

>>60162765
Would you prefer flac?

>>60161873
This.

>>60162638
So does Facebook. Literally shows you ads based on your chat history.

>>60162684
this

>>60162441
Matrix/Riot

>>60162361
is there a reason to chosen mumble over teamspeak?
i am hosted a teamspeak server for 10 years almost now
probably will not changed it since im used it for so long now

>>60166572
Not really anymore, mumble was far superior back when TS2 was a thing but nowadays TS3 catched up pretty well and the mumble project stagnated

I use it for large group projects and it works fairly well.

Is there really any other alternative? I don't care about voice chat. Only need group chat with different subsections and 'roles'.

>>60166656
IRC, you bellend.

>>60166656
IRC and Matrix/Riot

How the fuck does Discord make money. They must track and sell the fuck out of their user data. Didn't someone find out it was partially financed by Saudi Arabia or some shit? Yeah no thx

>>60159847
>AIM
Who?

>>60159834

No.

>>60161712
"Saved gaming" lol

https://www.quakenet.org/privacy

>IRC

TOPKEK

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In terms of using it for chatting, I honestly don't see a reason for it. If I'm interested in using it to talk with people who have interested in playing games with me, why wouldn't I use steam instead?
There's also no reason for me to use it as a VOIP, because the settings are so fucking barebones [ WHERES THE FUCKING FEEDBACK/LISTEN TO YOUR MICROPHONE TROUGH THE SOFTWARE BUTTON ] and lack shit that even Skype had, not to mention the shitbrow tier quality of it despite using a great codec.

So in the end I have the choice of either combining steam and 2006's mumble together (despite having to steam in the background still) to suffer from javascript error popups and 1GB of wasted ram, or I could just stick to shit that has worked for eons?

The only reason we use it for is text chat and containing idiots that think installing mumble is too complicated. Makes for a good screening process.

Mumble is easy to host, configure, and as a bonus secure for the most part.

>>60162361
IRC is also ;
Free
Easy to invite (irc urls)
Embedded images (run a client that does it)
Persistent feed (join a server that supports it +chanhistory)

Discord is for gamers first and foremost, and most of their features are gaming oriented, if you're not gaming you should use something like Slack, Rocket Chat, Mattermost, etc.

>>60167834
right, but it's not a VoIP so this is apples to oranges

>>60162397
>It just werks and there's no need for nerd shit cli crap.
yeah because you can't use gui programs like hexchat or other beyond retarded easy programs to just connect and enter a channel.
discord client is a piece of shit for this new wave of useles kids that watch youtube channels and spend hours watching people play games on twitch.

>>60170635
Good lord you're bitter. Not everyone has the same priorities about technology that you have, and discord works for them. It's fine.

>>60159834
IRC
>protocol that anyone can utilize

Discord
>proprietary software
>can't utilize in any way not allowed by the company
>propped up by millions in VC
>will inevitably turn to shit when investors want their ROI and they scramble to suck every penny out of its users

Don't forget...

Discord doesn't allow you to delete accounts or report illegal shit like CP servers & pedo users.

>>60171021
Wtf I love discord now

You can join any random channel and start chatting and making friends like the old IRC times tho

>>60161560
>no matter how shitty it is.
Discord is a top quality voice and text chat, nothing tops it. The only actual downside is no decentralization.

>>60159834
Why the fuck is this suddenly so popular? Who runs their marketing campaign ?
I keep hearing about this piece of software that does something that's been around since gamespy.
Don't people realise all these new communication apps are just data acquisition for the 3 letter agencies?

>>60171494
>just data acquisition for the 3 letter agencies
yeah but this one's different; it's backed by the chinese :)

>>60171494
Because you can share a link with a person and he can join the voice chat without installing anything. It just works and takes no amount of time to setup. Voice quality is good and text messaging facilities include everything people want. Don't know any other software that does this, apart from possibly riot.im (which I never used).

>>60171494
>data acquisition for the 3 letter agencies
fuck they'll know I'm ganking mid
ruined
discord ruined

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Discord is the IRC of fucking idiots. Unfortunately, my friends are fucking idiots.

>>60159834
Maybe for newer ones. I'm loving it but it's really a data miner a la Facebook. They said "we are sponsored".... for sure ;))

>>60159834
>>60171566
idk why you're sucking irc cock
it wasn't that great even at it's peak

>>60171589
Would you like to explain how it being data miner is a downside when it's used for its direct purpose, ie voice communication in videogames?

>>60171612
>when it's used for its direct purpose
It's not used for anything except selling your information.
It's "direct purpose" is profiteering your private data.
If a chat system isn't decentralized in 2017 you know they are pulling some (((fishy))) stuff.

>>60167001
Forget that, he said it saved the internet.

>>60171654
>It's not used for anything except selling your information.
I see you haven't used discord and have only been consuming discord related memes. Discord is used as a tool for voice communication by most people who are using it.

>>60171604
Sure, but it's much better than Discord, even today.

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>>60171494
>new communication apps are just data acquisition for the 3 letter agencies
>new
>meanwhile IRC is plaintext

>>60171686
how?

>>60171697
Significantly more lightweight, FOSS, ability to run and totally control your own servers, More lines of text on the screen at a time, easier to write bots for, significantly more client choice, I could keep going if you'd like.

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>Why do people like this?
>How do they make money.
It was shilled by game companies all over. They had $30m in investments before the program was released.

The main thing that got everyone into it was being instantly accessible from browser. You could go to someone "hey let's play with my other friends" and in two seconds be in the same chat. It all went uphill, or downhill, from there. It has an idiot-proof interface and has most of the features that normalfags who play League of Legends all day want. Let's look at the alternatives.

>Teamspeak: have to pay/host a server, looks like antiquated ass that normalfags won't touch
>Mumble: looks like ass and normalfags won't touch
>Skype: everyone who used this for gaming wanted to jump ship to something that worked ASAP
>anything else like tox or: not a big enough userbase, because normalfags like being part of 100 servers and shitposting with anime porn all day, also probably looks like shit that they don't wanna touch

Normal people don't care about FOSS. I bet you that there's even idiots who think that because Discord is free as in beer that it is "secure." Now that Discord solidified their base they are going to impose safe-space shit all over. They require you to put NSFW tags on rooms that allow you to share porn. Their TOS now bans loli/shota, and it's not just a thing to cover their ass from countries that ban it, one of the devs made some ideologically charged comments about it on twitter. Of course since they can see anything you type having a server with just you and your degenerate loli-loving contemporaries can still be met with a ban.

Not to mention their Linux client has some serious vulnerabilities but I cannot cite this because I just flat out stopped using it and caring about it when I heard.

>propietary software
>even once
>help me

>>60171672
I'm not talking about what the users use it for and neither was the guy you responded to in the first place.
Free shit is never free, there is always a cost. Discord costs you your privacy to use.

>>60171711
More lines seen is kind of irrelevant since you only need to read few last ones. The stuff Discord puts that takes space, like horizontal dividers and previews for web pages are actually useful.

The rest does not apply to users. Inability to run and totally control your own servers is a honest downside of Discord, the rest is not. Client choice would matter if Discord client was bad.

Here's stuff IRC lacks: server-side text and metadata search, voice communication, rich media in text messages.

So, yes, do go on.

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i just wanna use riot

>>60171756
Yeah. Well done admitting it. Now could you answer my original question then?

>Would you like to explain how it being data miner is a downside when it's used for its direct purpose, ie voice communication in videogames?

>>60171711
why would a party of 5 people install an irc client each and go through the hassle of configuration a connection to your server to end up in a text chat?

when they can just open a link in incognito and just alt-tab back to the game and go on with their lives...

you're basically recommencing a teletype in a cellphone era

discord is convenient unlike mumble, ts and all the other shit out there.

>>60171757
>More lines seen is kind of irrelevant since you only need to read few last ones.
Eh, not to me. it's the first thing I missed when I installed Discord.

The rest obviously applies to users. I am a user, it all applies to me.

I don't think you're going to be reasonable, so enjoy Discord, I'll continue cursing my friends for using nothing else.

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>>60171769
>hassle
>typing in a few words is a hassle
How do you manage to use this board? Isn't trying your responses a hassle?

>>60171761

the default matrix.org server is so fucking slow
has anyone tried hosting one themselves?

>>60171786
if irc is so great why we're not using it right now?

Irc doesn't have memes on the loading screen.

>>60171799
I am, but I also have to use Discord because the vast majority of my meatspace friends refuse to use anything else.

>>60171773
If we make a piechart of people who are potential or actual users of Discord, and split it into two parts, one being people who don't consider discord becoming FOSS a useful feature for them, and the other people who do, the latter would be so small you wouldn't be able to see it.

Just because you want it does not give you enough claim to say it applies to users.

To illustrate it in more colorful way, if a person jacks off to a picture of mirc every morning, lack of that picture is not a valid criticism for Discord, even though there exists a user who really likes that picture.

>>60171767
>why is having my private communications being sold to whoever a bad thing
If you do not see why that is a downside I don't know how you found your way to this board but you sure as hell don't belong here.
There are so many things they can do with the data discord collects.

>>60171817
Well, under the same token, just because you claim the feature is not a feature does not make it so. I do not believe we are going to see eye to eye on this issue.

>>60171786
>hassle
you conveniently missed "the hassle of configuration"
go on walk a newbie through adding your custom server to irc
vs
open this link and use guest account

>>60171806
but I'm not
and the purpose of a communication tool is communicating, so have fun sitting on a dead channel

>>60159834
no

>>60171833
I never said Discord wasn't easier to use, but IRC isn't rocket science, either.

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>>60171833
Anon... I wouldn't be using IRC if I had nobody to talk to on it.

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>>60171694
>IRC is plaintext

>>60171822
I'm not trying to convince you. You're free to dislike Discord. I'm fine with just showing that your arguments are unreasonable.

>>60171864
I do not agree, but such is life.

>>60171821
I'm on 4chan since 2006. I found my way here through some anime scan site.

It is so difficult for you to list what dreadful things they can do from monitoring my video gamer voice chats? Please.

>>60171876
Well, obviously, I'm not trying to show it to you.

>>60171021
Do you know any nice chat rooms?

>>60171021
Don't forget...
IRC doesn't allow you to delete accounts or report illegal shit like CP servers & pedo users.

>>60171882
They have your voice. There are too many things they could do with your voice to list.
They can profile you based on the things you do while using discord.
Anything you say can and will be used against you.
These are some of the basic things they can do, there are more.
But of course since you are video game playing trash you are just going to say that these are non issues.

>>60171975
I'd like to see some practical example of what kind of a negative thing will happen to me because I use a voice chat software that logs my calls.

You wrote a lot but none of what you've written seems to affect me negatively so far.

I also would like to point out that I'm asking to clarify and not dismissing what you wrote as non-issues.

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>>60161574
nVidia boy is buttmad since Ryzen BTFO'd him

your projection isn't going to undo the several hundred wasted dollars in your bank account

>>60161574
Here is your (You)

Discord sells your information to big companies. It's in their agreements.

>>60172058
Source?

I need to show it to my normie friends who use discord. Although some don't really care about it... ;(

I wished I can go back to IRC.
But its so deprecated and doesn't support modern API, irc community is not dead yet but its zombified because it cant adapt.

>>60171998
>be me
>say nigger in discord
>boss hits me up at work later
>get fired

>be me again
>go apply for another job
>hr looks me up and finds out i said nigger on discord
>into_the_trash_it_goes.gif

This is over simplified of course, but this kind of shit is not a conspiracy theory anymore.

>>60172084
https://discordapp.com/privacy

Level 25 Jew wording

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>>60159834
Pro:
I can chat with friends on a private room
I can call anyone without paying like a retard (Im watching you Skype -_-)
You can voice chat with friends while gamming.
Variety on topics in the same room
Comfy and effay looks!
Promoting a healthy space for your friends (Not pornography or any remotly gore because ban)
Its free.


Contra:
Literally none.

Dont know what ICR(I dont watch japanesse anime) thing is but im glad that my friends and i discovered Discord.

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>>60172168
Loving this post

>>60172084
>>60172114
>https://discordapp.com/privacy
>Consent: We may transfer your information with your consent.

That's pretty much a catch-all. I'm certain that by using Discord in the first place or registering an account, you are legally (((consenting))) to the trade of your information.

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>>60172168

>>60161275
>>60161770
>>60161748
>>60162396
>>60166775
>>60167394
>>60167792
>>60171494
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>>60172114
down syndrome

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>>60172222
Compelling argument, faggot.

>>60172222
Waste of quads

>>60172096
I don't remember telling them who I am.

>>60159834
i just use it because it's convenient to just make a server and get people in there to just fuck around, talk, watch movies etc. and image/video embed is cool. for competitive gaming where latency and being lightweight matters we have a mumble server.
its really only popular because it's marketed to gamers as just a more "updated" skype/mumble/ts/etc. and they go to all kinds of gay gamer conventions and stuff like that

>>60159834
Kinda. It's like IRC about 12 years ago.
Had to construct a relay to irc for it, chromium client is garbage.
>>60161574
this t.b.h.
>>60166656
any network fs like 9p or nfs or ftp and some scripts to have everything tidy and cat/less

>>60172096
>gets called into bosses office
>"so ShadowSlay17, i was just informed you said the n word in an online chat. is that true?"
>y-yes boss
>"unacceptable! im laying you off immediately!"
>but boss-
>"no but's, shadow!"
cant make this shit up

>>60172298
You almost certainly did indirectly.

>>60172352
I almost certainly did not.

>>60172356
>uses program that monitors what you do and profiles you based on your habits
You use Windows too right?

Idiot they know who you are.
Considering how little you care about your privacy I bet someone could find out who you are based on your IP alone.

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>>60166966
AOL Instant Messenger, newfag

>>60171440
>nothing tops it
Mumble?

>>60172390
The program is running in a javascript machine in a browser. No, it does not monitor what I do. It's such a strange feeling to see someone as misinformed as you talking about privacy.

>>60172408
Neither is any better as far as sound quality is concerned.

>>60172419
sound quality they're probably equally matched (honestly discord might win by a hair) but mumble is more lightweight and way lower latency which should make it a no brainer for FPS/MMO/MOBA gamers who give a shit

>>60172410
Holy shit you are retarded.
>runs javascript in browser
lmao that's just as bad.
Your browser is literally a harvestable bot while using JavaScript.

It's a modern day cucknet.

>>60172440
I'd ask for a proof but you obviously don't have it. All bark no bite.

>>60172450
Not him, but are you fucking kidding? Read up on how Java in browsers works.

>>60172450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERJmkLxGRC0
Kill yourself gaymer cuck.

>>60171440
>nothing tops it

>Slack
>Mattermost
>rocketchat

>>60159834
IRC is the IRC of current times.

>>60172461
>Java
are you doing this on purpose

>>60172462
Watched about 10 minutes, the only thing they have is clickjacking a social media site, none of which I use. If Discord actually did that (and it's trivial to detect) they'd be in a gigantic amount of legal trouble.

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>>60172543

>>60172543
You know very well what I mean, Anon. I'd ask you to quit playing the fool, but at this point I'm not sure it's an act.

>>60172557
Those reaction faces are not helping your argument. I addressed your claimed, I went and diligently watched that drivel. You're now ignoring my response and posting some kindergarten level insults. You lost the argument.

>>60172581
No, I don't know what you mean, Java is not there, Javascript is in the browser, and yes, I do know how it works.

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>>60172590
Apparently you have absolutely no idea. It may as well be magic. Also, you obviously did know what I meant as you answered the fucking question.

>>60172604
Remember Carl? The guy at anti-trump rally that goes WHITE MALE WHITE MALE WHITE MALE without actually saying anything. That's you. You have nothing to say and you keep repeating that there's something important that I don't know, but you for whatever reasons can't say what that is.

>>60172543
>watch literally less than a 10th of it
>miss the good parts, and entirely miss the point
You are trolling at this point.
There is no way someone can be this stupid.

>>60172637
I'd watch it if it was a good talk. It's garbage. Point me to where the important part is so I can refute it or stop mentioning it.

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>>60172632
Insults from the willfully ignorant are hardly effective.

>>60172651
But the fact remains that you brought nothing to the argument. You came, you said I'm ignorant, and you proceeded to post reaction images. This has 0 effect on anything.

>>60172662
I'm not arguing. I'm calling you a fucking imbecile.

>>60172647
>doesn't watch all of it
>its garbage
Really makes you think.

But to reply to your shitty bait, the important part is that JavaScript is an insecure mess that can be easily manipulated to fuck you over.
Most browser exploits have to do with JavaScript.
It's the most common vector for malware. The fact that you think you are secure while running a proprietary JavaScript application is laughable.

>>60172673
Yes. There was a somewhat civilized argument, you came and called me something. 0 effect.

>>60172680
The effect is that it pleases me. No more is needed. If you want an argument, that other Anon seems willing.

>>60161756
Same here. Discord bitrate seems horrible and servers die routinely (atleast in eu). I have never felt the need to move from mumble since it does what its supposed to do well without any gay shit stapled onto it. You have good quality VoIP, a simple chat and good options and customizability.

Sad that irc is ded, now you need discord to get tf2 mixes

>>60172674
>Really makes you think.
Does it? You can only come to a conclusion about something after confusing all of it?

They explicitly mention the talk has nothing to do with JS vulnerabilities in the very beginning.
And, again, exploiting those vulnerabilities would be a legal hell for Discord. They can't do that.

>>60172695
Are you also pleased with not knowing the difference between Java and Javascript?

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>>60172725
I'm pleased that you're such an autist.

>>60172709
>You can only come to a conclusion about something after confusing all of it?
>confusing
Yes you moron, I can't believe I have to state something as obvious as this, but then again, you use Discord, Windows, and play video games.
>nothing to do with JavaScript vulnerabilities
What misinformation, it has to do with manipulating browsers without needing traditional exploit vectors. It's about vulnerabilities that exist by design.
>exploiting JS is a legal hell
No, it isn't because if you're retarded enough to use Discord and Windows, then you are too dumb to recognize when your browser is telling Discord all your dirty secrets.
They don't even need to do anything illegal, it's all spelled out in their privacy policy, if you actually read it.

>>60172761
You have to decide whether you want me to address vulnerabilities in JS or you want me to address using JS the way the standard allows but doing malicious things at the same time. If it's latter, the video is relevant and you have to specify which part should I responding to. If it's former, then, no, hacking client's browser does get you into legal trouble no matter what your EULA says.

I meant to write consume. And, yes, rational human beings are capable of coming to an often correct conclusion about something from observing just a part of it.

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>>60172799
>And, yes, rational human beings are capable of coming to an often correct conclusion about something from observing just a part of it.
I entirely agree, which is why I rationally conclude that you're a fucking idiot.

>>60172824
Are you the guy who can't tell Java and JS apart again?

>>60172799
>rational human beings are capable of coming to an often correct conclusion about something from observing just a part of it.
Do that in any field that matters and see if you get away with it.
I won't bother waiting.

I was always talking about the latter and the fact that you ever thought I was talking about the former proves that you are uninformed.
>which part should I responding to
>spoonfeed me I'm retarded gaymer trash that can't even watch a tiny 40 minute talk
Kill yourself.
Respond to the fact that JavaScript is by design a steaming load of garbage that allows anyone who can serve you JavaScript to cuck you.

>>60161712
troll post but I actually agree

been using IRC since 2003. Stopped using it around 2014. It was always shit. Freenode was always shit. I'm not even kidding either freenode would literally take a shit once a day and disconnect everyone in the channel randomly. So glad people are moving away from it.

I've seen all of the chat fads come and go I have like 20 different chat applications on my computer and I think discord is best, BECAUSE IT RAN IN THE BROWSER, like it should. I really think discord is here to stay and is universally accepted now

what ever happened to Tox?

>>60159834
It's the new teamspeak as well.
I still run a teamspeak server because people haven't migrated. I wish they would though because persistence without bouncers is a sick af feature.

>>60172860
>I was always talking about the latter and the fact that you ever thought I was talking about the former proves that you are uninformed.

Oh boy, I wonder why I thought that. Ah, right.

>JavaScript is an insecure mess that can be easily manipulated to fuck you over.
>Most browser exploits have to do with JavaScript.

Almost all JS exploits have to do with faulty JS implementation, so former, and not latter.

>Respond to the fact that JavaScript is by design a steaming load of garbage that allows anyone who can serve you JavaScript to cuck you.
Javascript is a programming language. It is designed to allow the programmer to do whatever he wants inside the browser. It is not insecure by design. I asked you to show me how Discord can find out who I am, and the most close thing you came up with was linkjacking, in the video you linked, which does not involve Javascript.

>>60159834
B O T N E T

https://r4p3.net/threads/what-is-discord.861/#post-6224

>>60172877
>I think discord is best
>IT RAN IN THE BROWSER
>like it should

I really thought /g/ knew better than this

>>60161275
>>60172222
>>60172231
>>60172246
>>60161770
>>60162361
>>60166572
>>60166602
>>60167834
>>60170364
>>60172708
discord has a better userbase instead of waiting on stackexchange for help i can go to a programming discord and get help within seconds while on irc i get mocked for not knowing how to program

>>60172895
The first one has nothing to do with browser exploits, the second one was just a side note that's not even relevant.
>It's not insecure by design
>Javascript is a programming language. It is designed to allow the (((programmer))) to do whatever he wants inside YOUR browser.
FTFY

Using JavaScript, one can do many things to figure out who you are, like read your browser cache, or your plugin data, figure out where you live etc. You aren't even trying at this point, but I can't really expect much from a winfag.

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the typical child-like eletism is pointless, what makes an messaging program useful is the userbase, when discord inevitably dies it'll get quickly replaced, which seems like it'll be soon since they're getting heavy-handed with their datamining

>>60172957
Explain this to me. You explicitly mention that you're talking about Javascript implementation vulnerabilities, I ask you to clarify which of two you mean, and from that question you make a conclusion that

>if you ever thought I was talking about the former proves that you are uninformed.

Explain it. Other than you being retarded, I don't see an explanation.

>one can do many things!
I've been asking to show me one way to do it, one single practical solution to find out who I am using javascript, but you just can't do it, you keep repeating about Javascript being insecure like a broken record.

>>60172982
I told you what I am talking about, so why is it relevant except for Jewish argument tactics?

>but you just can't do it
I just listed 3 things that can fingerprint you, you mong.
https://panopticlick.eff.org
Has a tiny taste of JavaScript tracking.

>>60173020
I just want you to confirm that you intentionally misled me and then called me uninformed when I asked you to clarify.

I don't understand why is anyone trying to defend Discord. It's closed source, running on a server you have no insight of, it's just pointless to try and defend.

>>60173057
Everything remote is running on a server you have no insight of, even if server's admins claim to run FOSS software.

>>60173048
But I never did anything of the sort.
There was one comment which could be twisted into that perspective. Regardless it's irrelevant and the fact that your doing this proves you have no argument.

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>>60161712
Not sure if its a low quality bait or just underage and stupid

>>60173074
I asked you to show how Javascript lets them find out who I am. Fingerprinting doesn't do it. My argument is you are still to come up with an answer.

>There was one comment which could be twisted into that perspective.

>Most browser exploits have to do with JavaScript.

I am really looking forward for you coming up with what you meant with that sentence if not faulty javascript implementations.

>>60166966
Damn, when were you born?

>>60173095
Exploits are not all the fault of JavaScript implementations. All of those things in the talk were what you could do with normal legal JavaScript. Fuck off with your kike argument tactics.

>How JavaScript lets them find you
All it takes is your IP and some identifiable information.
That's it.
Give me access to all your discord chats, calls, your IP, and run some arbitrary JavaScript for some other fingerprinting and I guarantee I could find you.
Discord has access to all of that.
>Fingerprinting doesn't do it
Except it does you subhuman. JavaScript has access to enough information to pick you out of hundreds of thousands.
Add to that the information that Discord collects (everything you do while using Discord) and you are found.

You have not given a single refutation to any of the JavaScript vectors I mentioned beyond just saying that it doesn't work.

>>60173182
>Exploits are not all the fault of JavaScript implementations.
And yet, most of them actually have to do with faulty implementations, something that you even previously agreed to.

>run some arbitrary JavaScript for some other fingerprinting and I guarantee I could find you.
Gladly; give me the URL and I'll visit your page.

>JavaScript has access to enough information to pick you out of hundreds of thousands.
Oh yeah, we'll see.

>>60159834
IRC is the IRC of current times, people still use IRC for development and if not, they use something like slack

I like Discord's format but it's not really comparable to IRC or other modern tools

>>60173222
What about the rest? If you could somehow retroactively give me all the Discord chats and calls you have ever had I would set something up.
>Oh yeah, we'll see
panopticlick.eff.org can tell you how unique your browser fingerprint is. Enabling JavaScript, it could uniquely identify me out of around 250,000

>>60173287
I never really expected anything.

>Javascript can find out who you are!
>but only if you also supply all your audio logs.

Fascinating.

Here's a quote from the panopticlick about page, which you clearly didn't read:
>While the tracker won’t know your name, they could collect a deeply personal dossier of websites you visit.

>>60173326
>missing the point of everything entirely
Really makes you think. Can you actually come up with an argument?

>>60173358
Yep. My argument is you can't find out who the person is using Javascript, and you even suggested I run Javascript for you to find who I am, but when I agreed you backed out for an inane reason.

And since you can't find that out, you can't claim that Discord tracking its users is an issue (as you suggested in >>60172096).

>>60173385
I suggested you give me the information that the discord app has access to, which you can't give me. You only agreed to do two of the things in >>60173182
Try harder.

>>60173411
And I'm saying it's an inane reason. You argued the whole thread that JS can be used to find user's real name by itself and now you're adding a bogus unrelated restriction.

>>60173438
This is a load of bullshit and you know it.
The purpose of this is to show how Discord can find out who you are. JavaScript just gives them access to more information than just running the app in the browser, which is what I've been arguing.

>>60173458
You're not arguing for just a harmless "more information". You're arguing that it gives enough information to find out real name for Discrod users, which is nonsense.

>>60173480
This is like the 4th post in a row where you are just spouting nonsense.
Good night dude, enjoy your botnet.

>>60173513
You have not demonstrated a way to find out who the user is using Javascript.

>>60173517
>You have not demonstrated a way to find out who the user is using Javascript
sneaky curry startup
WIRUS, SIR,, WINDOWS SIR PLEASE....

terminal discord app when?

>>60173688
I don't get it.

Anyone have good infographics on getting started with IRC for normies?

Also, tutorials for setting up an IRC server?

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>>60171736
>>Mumble: looks like ass and normalfags won't touch
nu mumble is great looking

>>60166966
You have to be 18 to post

>tracking your browsing is bad
Why? Why is it bad that someone can show you an ad based on which websites you browse?

Are you doing illegal things?

Do you think you're hard to find even if they couldn't track your browsing?

>chat on IRC
>need to buy a bouncer to stay connected
>IDLE RELAY CHAT EVERYWHERE
Fuck IRC honestly

>>60172911
>while on irc i get mocked for not knowing how to program
That isn't true.
There are tons of programming IRC channels with thousands of people that could help you. Most questions are responded to instantly.

>>60174171
lol lmao grandpa
does mumble even have achievements?!?

>>60172397
>>60173125
>>60174723
Nigga I was using IRC before you even knew how to find your mom's tits.
No one I know ever used AOL. It was either IRC or MSN Messenger.

I think AOL was just an american thing.

IRC is just plain out comfy especially with a black background.

I don't get why you nerds have a problem with discord. its good, it works.

>>60176243
>its good, it works.
That's debatable.

>>60176390
list me all the cons

>it's a 'it's bad because people use it and I need a hipster solution for elite tech hackers such as myself' episode
One of my favorites

>>60176417
>!javascript!, meaning 3 windows for a single application eating up a total of 1GB of RAM
>VOIP is practically just a good codec slapped onto the software, in terms of options and configuration, Discord is a dinosaur
>no ability to host your own servers, meaning it's worthless when it comes to any kind of LAN events/tournaments
>no directional voice
>promises made by developers to add the simplest of features in 2015, not added yet
>constantly moving towards becoming some kind of stupid social network service with profiles
>horrible Terms combined with a terrible method of gaining money off of the platform
>Creator of the project has been sued beforehand for breaking laws related to misusing peoples information and security
>using the API for bot related shit is walking on thin ice and so much shit can get you banned (calling the API 10 times in a short period of time will get you permabanned)
and all the fucking bugs in the world, holy shit is Discord filled with bugs

>>60176619
1. doesn't happen to me
2.who cares
3.that is true
4.who cares
5.true
6.not a problem actually
7. no one cares
8. sauce
9. I never get this issue

idk how you end up having all these issues, the only issue I've had is server outages sometimes.
I guess I don't have autism and don't belong in /g/ tho

>>60177983
>who cares
>no one cares
>WORKS ON MY COMPUTER
Man, I bet you fucking gobbled on Skype cock 24/7 before discord came along, right?

>>60178062
no I was on team speak

>>60159834
IRC was shit. I remember the "golden days" when was idlefest, people only write "Give me @ plz", spam and nukes (because everybody can see your IPs).

Why the fuck does Discord make image width and height URL parametres?

>>60159834
No. But it is comfy AF especially when all your friends use it. The UI is also normie-friendly but i wish it was more customizable. Hope they implement the skin system soon enough.

>>60159834
Discord is great! It allows you to delete messages without leaving a placeholder behind, so you can harass and gaslight people without leaving a lasting record. Because the history is stored serverside, unlike IRC, the deletion is global!

wire>discord

signed up for matrix today, because of this thread. thanks for the tip brothers

>>60159834
Discord and IRC are not similar. Discord is a chat service for video game players

>>60171021
discord hosts images posted themselves, right? why doesn't anyone just sue them into hell for hosting CP and copyrighted material?

>>60181007
If you want a discord-like experience use the Riot.im client!

>>60175213
>I think AOL was just an american thing.
It was huge in Europe as well, not a lot of people I know used AIM though (I know they interconnected)

>>60172320
fucking english?

I just fucked a girl I met on IRC this weekend. IRC's not dead.

>>60174831
Fake news.

I got banned on programming irc chats for just saying hello. Most people on irc have muh sekrit club mentality and are either mentally unstable or autistic.

>>60184096
What channel. Post the logs.

>>60184111
Why the fuck would I save the logs. IRC is dead. Most users just sit afk.

>>60184158
wew lad
that is completely untrue

>>60184096
>Most people on irc have muh sekrit club mentality
you're going to the wrong channels
>and are either mentally unstable or autistic
this part is true

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>>60170364
why cant fruit be compared?

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>>60161712
>people ACTUALLY taking this bait

>>60172877
>BECAUSE IT RAN IN THE BROWSER, like it should

running a standalone client uses much less resources then bundling your shitty app in something like electron. imagine being this retarded

>>60159834

with the new tos update, how can i setup riot / matrix?
can i bridge my discord from there?

>>60185810
by resources, i'm sure you're referring to the size of the executable on your storage device -- the most expendable resource in any modern computer.

electron is fucking huge -- no doubt. i won't be surprised when electron pivots towards being a runtime, or we start seeing serious traction on a system level for html/js runtimes, but you're retarded if you think that a correctly written electron CHAT app (see: correctly written anything app) is worth throwing pajeets at instead.

>>60166966

You mean ICQ.

Discord is recording everything you say and do, remember that. It's far more moderated than IRC, but will still develop channels of people who lord over them.

The advantage is inline images and some VOIP (it's not perfect but it replaces skype really well). It doesn't have then granularity of TS or Mumble so it won't replace them yet.

Discord has it's niche, IRC with a few choice additions, but still a proprietary thing that watches you and you can't just go make your own server/network group.

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I miss IRC.

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>Completely federated
>Supports encryption
>Supports Tor and I2P
>So robust the US military uses for military ops

If you think IRC is antiquated you're a cuck.

>>60161873

>playing RunEscape
>expected to run an IRC client, use it to JUST to stay in contact with the 'clan' was we moved from game world to game world every 30 minutes

This is like 2006 for pest control. Like I was 16 at the time, but the use of IRC in the early 2000 was the standard, even for a shitty game like that.

Discord still has a process of being invited and signing up. you have to sign up for IRC (nickserv etc) so what is so hard and mysterious about IRC?

Is peoples version of 'just werks' regressing? And to be rhetorical I guess it is, people install programs and just press 'express' and wind up with a load of utter shit on top of what they wanted. Discord in that matter INSTALLED WITHOUT ADMIN PRIVILEGES, which scared me the most and I've got UAC set up to ask for admin password for any action of that level.

>>60180770
Check out betterdiscord. It's easy enough to customize and there are a bunch of skins people have already made for it.

>>60187775
Well it installs into your user data directory, don't need admin rights for that.

>>60187996

More complaining about the lack of choice in the matter. Just straight up unpacks itself, I don't want it installed to my C, I want it on another drive.

>>60161712
>discord literally saved gaming and the internet as a whole

Yeah, the place is a tulpa paradise.
Fucking manchildren the lot of you.

>>60184096
You are being tested to see if you fit in, if you contribute they will quickly drop the act and chat openly. Are internet users nowdays seriously so sensitive they can't even handle being hardchatted?

>>60159834
LEEROY

>>60159834
It's not decentralized so no

>>60159834
No.
Research it's founder to learn more.

>irc
the worst thing about irc is they keep calling me a girl

i sent one person a picture of my penis and they *still* called me a girl
wtf how do i prove that i am a boy?

>people like and use it so it's bad
When did neck beards become such hipsters

>>60192981
kiss a girl

>>60159834
Not until XDCC is implemented.

>>60193704
>this isn't the first post from this IP in the thread
lel, maybe reset your router or something to make your constantly spewn point seem valid

>>60193846

Not him but how do you see wether someone has posted before in a thread?

>>60194068
There's a counter for posts/images/unique IPs/what page the thread is on, if someone posts and the unique IP count doesn't go up, then that's a pretty obvious way to see.
4chanx or the other dozen of scripts mark this for you automatically

>comparing Discord to IRC
Not only it offers many less features, but its centralized model will be its downfall.

>>60159834
does it have xdcc-like bots?
If yes I may use it otherwise fuck off

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>>60174802
>i have nothing to hide goy, therefore i should erode my human right to privacy as much as possible :^)

>>60193715
but i don't know any girls

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>>60174802
>show you an ad