/retro/ - old computers, tech and software

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>>60155906

>>60155961
68k is still the best CPU ever made

>>60155906
Hello LGR

>>60155961
Motorola markings were always so nice looking for whatever reason. Very concise.

>>60155906
>using the LGR PC as the OP picture
OP confirmed for underage

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>>60156020
I agree, the whole chip looks solid and nice, like a monolith

>>60155906
Timestamp that you are Clint. Otherwise delete this thread, cause stolen picture.

>>60156026
What's wrong with it? Even when LGR isn't the best and smartest, it's still comfy and fun.

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>>60156030

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Reposting old pic of Lifebook because comfy :^)

>>60156030
This, tits and timestamp

>>60156068
>tits and timestamp
kek

>>60156050
>tfw have a lifebook P but I can't justify ordering a battery, AC adapter and everyfucking thing else to get it working again

>>60156096
Do you have the old battery, if so, change the cells? Also, try finding a compatible adapter, doesn't have to be original for it to work. Those things are too comfy to not have one working.

>>60156039
Don't use screenshot of his videos you idiot. Also no timestamp.
At least put some effort into it, so we can laugh a little.

>>60156144
Nobody implied OP was Clint, those a pictures from the previous thread.

>>60155906
>That .net gave me some wood?
>What do you mean? We already have wood!

>>60156215
What ever happened to it? Will we ever get the 4chan BBS client?

>>60156135
Seems they pretty much ripped every easily detachable part off of the machine before they shipped it off. I'd even take a dead battery for it at this point, it looks absolutely retarded without one.

>>60156249
That's a shame

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Currently running Windows 2000 Server.

>>60156423
Neat, what chip?

>>60156451
Pentium 3 850MHz.

>>60156423
What are you doing with it?

>>60156497
Using it as a retro game database.

>>60156423
>no cmos battery
>no keyboard
>no persistent storage device of any kind

enjoying staring at

CMOS CHECKSUM FAILED, PRESS F1 TO ENTER SETUP
KEYBOARD NOT FOUND, PRESS F1 TO CONTINUE

?

>>60156531
>BOOT DEVICE NOT DETECTED, PRESS ANY KEY TO RETRY

>>60156531
That was a test bed to see if the board boots (it was previously gutted of the VRM caps but now I restored it)

Although sometimes I do get the

Keyboard error or no keyboard present 

but that may be because of my keyboard's cable.

>>60156564
>but that may be because of my keyboard's cable.
check you don't have pressed or stuck keys as well, if a key is held when it checks it, it can trigger an error

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>>60156562
>BOOT DEVICE NOT DETECTED, PRESS ANY KEY TO RETRY

It's Award BIOS, thus it's like this:

DISK BOOT FAILURE, PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER

Here's a capture of it booting up.

>>60156580
If I wiggle the cable it works fine,and there are no stuck keys (it's been cleaned recently)

>>60156591
VCR?

>>60156592
>Server Family
Windows 2000 Servers for the whole family!

>>60156624
>tfw I was expecting it to say Windows 2000 Datacenter Server because that's what I chose to install (it's from an all in one disc that includes Pro SP4, Server SP4, Adv. Server SP4 and Datacenter SP4)

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>>60156625
>posting combed 30fps progressive video
>when it's 60 field/s interlaced
>not deinterlacing to smooth 60fps progressive

>>60156661
the boot splash image is inside the kernel image, i guess they figured it wouldn't be worth the space to have so many additional copies of the kernel just to change that text

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Anyone else feel bad for Kildall while watching old episodes of The Computer Chronicles?

>>60156811
I love plotters!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9XgplGqSrw

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How does /retro/ store their babies?

I have 7 or so 286-586 era machines I'm planning on storing in large cardboard moving boxes for easy tetrising away into the store room. I will be putting foam layers between, each double wrapped in garbage bags with a freshly dried desiccant sack thrown in. All batteries removed. Any other considerations?

Pic unrelated, new toy I got from a guy at work today, Sperry 3070 XT clone. Blown PSU with propitiatory XT clone headers. FFFUU.

>>60156906
On tables, fully equipped and ready to use at any time.

>>60156906
>Pic unrelated, new toy I got from a guy at work today, Sperry 3070 XT clone. Blown PSU with propitiatory XT clone headers. FFFUU.
Looks real nice though

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>>60156918
That's cold man.
> tfw no room for beige beowulf cluster.
> tfw fuse box would likely melt off the side of the house if I tried.

I did float the idea of a small footprint beige box per room with some CLI GUI > RS-232 > zigbee based goodness for controlling lights etc, but like the flimsy cover it was, the other half saw right through and shitcanned it.

>>60156934
If nothing else it will yield some good, hard to get parts. It's got a 30MB Winchester HDD and its control card, that alone is fucking awesome. I'll wire something up to it eventually and see what happens.

>>60157121
>tfw fuse box would likely melt off the side of the house if I tried
You don't have to power them on all at once

>>60155906
That case is gorgeous

>>60157267
Duh, it's woodgrain

Anyone else find Windows 3.1 really unintuitive?

>>60157605
Pretty much

>>60157632
I really don't understand the whole program manager thing, some program windows run only inside of it, while others can be dragged outside of it. The desktop seems to only be usuable if you don't turn off your session, for home use that's horrible imo.

>>60157651
Yeah, it was pretty dumb even for it's time when compared to things like MacOS and AmigaOS

>>60157605
i can see it feeling pretty weird if you've only ever used the taskbar, which was introduced after windows 3.1

>>60156906
on my desk, under my desk, and in my closet

>>60156906
More pics?

>>60156906
>How does /retro/ store their babies?
in my nutsack

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bump

>>60157605
I wouldn't call it "unintuitive" but I still hate it, it's big, ugly and poorly designed in general.

>>60162274
It's shit. Calling it unintuitive isn't a stretch

>>60156906
multiple outbuildings and a garage lined with shelves and stacks

>>60162284
But that would imply it's difficult to use, and I never had difficulty with that, it was just unenjoyable to do so.

>>60162427
Well, guess you are right, I can't say it was difficult to use, but it was less intuitive than the competition for sure.

>>60155987
What table is that?

>>60162478
I could say I'm with you on that.

I always preferred Macs when it came to old consumer graphical systems, that interface made 640x480 seem way bigger than it actually was. Amigas were probably okay too, but I've never used one.

>>60162533
One with wood and metal

>>60156566
Any recommendations on a good POST card?

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>>60162579
they are actually called diagnostic cards though

>>60161504
>SSD

>>60162344
Pics

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>>60155906
univac 1 operators console

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>>60155906
univac 1 memory module
its got mercury in it
not sure .. could be "acoustical delay" .. the "williams tube had a delay which was the amount of time it took a lit up 'pixel' = bit in that case, to fade. there had to be a delay to sustain the impression of the data. so early computers had racks of tubes, CRT tubes that weren't even being looked @. photosensors on one end

>>60164914
That is a great chair. I am sitting in one right now.

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>>60155906
IBM hard disk

>>60164967
If it's mercury it's an acoustical delay line for sure

>>60164967
>Cool memory module, Ahmed.

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>>60155906
it was a civilised business

>>60164914
>>60164967
Oh crap

>UNIVAC I used 5,000 vacuum tubes,[11] weighed 16,000 pounds (7.3 metric tons), consumed 125 kW, and could perform about 1,905 operations per second running on a 2.25 MHz clock. The Central Complex alone (i.e. the processor and memory unit) was 4.3 m by 2.4 m by 2.6 m high. The complete system occupied more than 35.5 m2 (382 ft2) of floor space.

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>>60155906
5 megabyte disk, 1956

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>>60155906

>>60163635
>and it's not even mounted, just lazily hanging in a gaping empty bay

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>>60155906
The GE-600 series was a family of 36-bit mainframe computers originating in the 1960s, built by General Electric (GE). When GE left the mainframe business the line was sold to Honeywell, which built similar systems into the 1990s as the division moved to Groupe Bull and then NEC.

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>>60155906

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>>60155906
did they care about the box

The Elbrus (Russian: Эльбpyc) is a line of Soviet and Russian computer systems developed by Lebedev Institute of Precision Mechanics and Computer Engineering. These computers are used in the space program, nuclear weapons research, and defense systems. In 1992 a spin-off company Moscow Center of SPARC Technologies (MCST) was created and continued development, using the "Elbrus" moniker as a brand for all computer systems developed by the company.

Elbrus 3 (1986) was a 16-processor computer developed by the Babayan's team, and one of the first VLIW computers in the world.

Very long instruction word (VLIW) refers to instruction set architectures designed to exploit instruction level parallelism (ILP). Whereas conventional central processing units (CPU, processor) mostly allow programs to specify instructions to execute in sequence only, a VLIW processor allows programs to explicitly specify instructions to execute at the same time, concurrently, in parallel. This design is intended to allow higher performance without the complexity inherent in some other designs.

mothafocka

>>60163635
>>60165135
That's Sparkys shitbox

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>>60155906
cozy

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>>60155906

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>>60155906
f u .. ama programmer
UNIVAC

>>60165276
A blonde? Using a computer? Think what a rare sight it must have been back then

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>>60155906
vot. are you doing in here

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>>60155906
the most important machine ever built

a design team with unlimited budget & free rein

XEROX

not just that

>>60165036
nice, back to pleddit now faggot

>>60165359
>The Alto has a bit-slice arithmetic logic unit (ALU) based on the Texas Instruments' 74181 chip, a ROM control store with a writable control store extension and has 128 (expandable to 512) kB of main memory organized in 16-bit words. Mass storage is provided by a hard disk drive that uses a removable 2.5 MB one-platter cartridge (Diablo Systems, a company Xerox later bought) similar to those used by the IBM 2310. The base machine and one disk are housed in a cabinet about the size of a small refrigerator; one more disk can be added via daisy-chaining.

>Alto both blurred and ignored the lines between functional elements. Rather than a distinct central processing unit with a well-defined electrical interface (e.g., system bus) to storage and peripherals, the Alto ALU interacts directly with hardware interfaces to memory and peripherals, driven by microinstructions output from the control store. The microcode machine supports up to 16 cooperative tasks, each with fixed priority. The emulator task executes the normal instruction set to which most applications are written (which is rather like that of a Data General Nova). Others tasks serve the display, memory refresh, disk, network, and other I/O functions. As an example, the bitmap display controller is little more than a 16-bit shift register; microcode moves display refresh data from main memory to the shift register, which serializes it into a display of pixels corresponding to the ones and zeros of the memory data. Ethernet is likewise supported by minimal hardware, with a shift register that acts bidirectionally to serialize output words and deserialize input words. Its speed was designed to be 3 Mbit/s because the microcode engine could not go faster and continue to support the video display, disk activity and memory refresh.

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>>60165359
>>60165403

Good to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPyqQXFC2yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDKxOmVDapQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR5LkQugBE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDw8U1a6s78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr7vDZpniNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7yVhMT7tr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0sL_FwPVwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQMhvArI9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQ7hbV7bN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMp5EAq-Elo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKakermaQ68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIohWr10kU

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>>60155906
if these machines were still around &
lisp was mainstream, /g/ for example wouldn't have so many vague, uniformed shit throwing sessions

everything would be advanced

amateurs would not have been born
'welcome to the alternative future' .. who's that .. in a cage, a gollum scratching at the perspex waah waah waah .. snotty kid

who's that? that's bill gates
who?
that's the idea

there would be bases on mars

>>60165403
the biggest thing they discovered, was
screen memory, directly addresseable by the cpu, next to system memory (or part of the same memory map) .. it was not grasped, then "are you insane?" "the screen is a peripheral" .. conversation that happened @ xerox parc

that singular thing made everything possible

>>60165403
interrupts .. didn't they invent interrupts

>>60165359
>>60165403
>>60165416
I recommend the book Dealers of Lightning it's about Xerox PARC and it's a very interesting read on the research center. It talks about the Alto and a bunch of other tech that never saw the light of day.

>>60165419
Lisp machines towards the end were slow as fuck and ultra-expensive, they weren't all that great compared to general-purpose workstations by then.

>>60165359
& singular machines, 1 per user
and.. out of that place (palo alto), at the same time
ETHERNET

xerox invented everything .. everything that became 'pc/apple' (office micro) .. the mouse.
.. paint .. a spin off of xerox was silicon graphics

but they only capitalized on the lazer printer

palo alto research center were "the hippies" .. there was a rolling stone article about them

http://www.wheels.org/spacewar/stone/rolling_stone.html

>>60165436
>C128
>Not C65
Can't afford it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-rare-Commodore-65-C65-DX64-prototype-working-serial-22-/171673209321?_ul=DO

I have the opportunity to get my hands on an IBM AS/400 (sans drives) for free.
Should I go for it?

>>60165477
interesting in that book .. they have stories about jobs getting there .. the girl manager of the symbolics machine, that made the GUI possible .. she didn't want to show it to jobs. Jobs had arrived there worth $50m. She got a phone call ORDERING her to show her the full symbolics. Jobs @ one point said "stop" .. what did you just do .. the operator, the demonstrator had shown the (admittedly, very slow), change of the mode of an object on the screen. Jobs had seen a small menu flash up, be selected from and disappear. Jobs started to get extremely interested in this ..

Jobs after seeing it all said 'bitmapped display' .. wouldn't it be nice if, it could scroll pixel by pixel. She went to a file, changed a bit of the symbolics lisp code & it scrolled pixel by pixel. He was blown away ... the lisp code made the gui possible. It MADE IT POSSIBLE TO PROGRAM. .. she'd left it turned off, because it required a lot of processing grunt (admittedly). There is a discussion of the symbolics chief engineer being at a beach party, describing "when it died" .. 'when the spirit of xerox parc evaporated' .. he was asking his boss, at that party (unlimited food, booze (they were throwing lots of parties)) .. if he could do version 2 of the symbolics machine he was turned down - they were happy with what they had. Why , as someone here has stated, it remained slow, 'underdeveloped' .. they were aware of, and afraid of "version 2 syndrome", where the v2 would be overloaded with features that the developers always wanted to put in (bloat).

The designers around that were touting pads .. I believe the original guy has managed to market a symbolics pad .. it could even (not sure), be the OLPC (one laptop per child). .. a third world tablet. When the Surface RT failed majorly , gates snidely said that they were "useless in education" .. vicious, snide. what were the first slate tablets, what was the ABEDECERY. we are still in 1981. we are still underdeveloped.

>>60165623
Why not?

>>60165623
If you ask something that dumb then just let someone else have it

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>>60165623
Of course, enough of those systems have been crushed already.

>>60165636
it was interpreted to drive the GUI. why it was 'slow'. she could just change a bit of configuration code to do that. jobs was blown away. jobs went away .. .. in actual fact (remembering) .. they wouldn't show him what they had .. it was the engineering girl, protective, very & a XEROX head office salesman. Jobs was with his salesman. Jobs said to them "we will show you the lisa" jobs salesman said "what's that" .. jobs didn't give a f*ck about "sales" -- he was sales. he was on the lightning

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>>60165673
the apple lisa
jobs bought into xerox
gates stole -- gates got 20% of the message
no quality

gates monopoly of ignorance regressed human history

>>60165623
Where can I find download OS/400? Or can I install some ancient Linux disro on it. What type of CPU architecture would A late 90's AS/400 have?

>>60165636
An Abecedary, a full alphabet carved in stone or written in book form, was historically found in churches, monasteries and other ecclesiastical buildings. Abecedaries are generally considered to be medieval teaching aids, particularly for the illiterate. The alphabet may have been thought to possess supernatural powers along the lines of the runic alphabet. Each letter would have had a symbolic meaning to the devout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abecedarium

PCs are nothing - ugly tin boxes
no design

>>60165755
>Where can I find download OS/400?
Google

>Or can I install some ancient Linux disro on it.
UNIX

>What type of CPU architecture would A late 90's AS/400 have?
POWER

>>60165707
the biggest problem computer companies of that era had (as the book 'dealers in lightning', describes), was not being able to produce or manufacture quickly enough to satisfy demand

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>>60165842
because if you don't produce fast enough
-- you lose the market .. everyone was developing the same technologies (in mini computers) .. there I refer to another similar (journalist written book), called "soul of a new machine", describing the development of the first 32 bit minicomputer.

>>60165790
you can build apollo 11
the plans are online

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>>60155906
what happened?
chicks only like apples
not the cruddy buggy tin boxes

>>60166066
argh.

bruce.

screams

>>60165416
dunno if it's that, but the most informative thing I saw about the machine (alto), was a complete rebuild. .. the vids are on youtube. a Xerox engineer arrives with the old software to boot it. Was only a few years ago .. machine bought at auction .. a lot of money. rebuilt

>>60166066
That's not a chick

>>60166169
This video series chronicles the restoration of a seminal Xerox Alto computer. This is the machine that Steve Jobs saw during a visit at the famed Xerox PARC, and would inspire the Macintosh. Although never commercialized, this 1974 design, built entirely out of simple TTL logic before a powerful enough microprocessor even existed, was so far ahead of its time that it is hard to comprehend. It demonstrated many then unheard-of firsts, and astonishingly, they all made it to the present day computer, barely modified: a personal computer booting from a hard disk, with a graphical screen, proportional fonts, a mouse driven GUI, a WYSIWYG text editor, a drawing program, IDE with overlapping windows, Ethernet, Net booting, laser printing, the first optical mouse - and even network games. Follow along as we delve into the depth of this machine while bringing it back to life step by step, while being constantly amazed at its never ending cleverness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YupOC_6bfMI

>>60166066
>ancient traps

>>60166169
sounds cool, link?

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>>60166066
>chicks
FTFY

>>60166079
>>60166194
>>60166216

>>60166208
TTLs were the chips they could hardly source in "soul of a new machine" .. to build the 1st 32 bit mini. The guy who built that had managed to get into a room, of the machine of the competitor. He took the back off that machine & saw exactly what they were using & how much time they were wasting. Goal reduction of the # of chips/boards/pathways (as was described in the famous story of the session of design of the first apple board (wozniak, jobs)). TTLs enabled them to reduce everything, drastically.

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Recently picked these up from a relative

>>60166241
>32 bit mini
wasn't the Alto 36-bit?

>>60166208
>built entirely out of simple TTL logic before a powerful enough microprocessor even existed
it's TTL logic because CPUs like that just didn't exist, because there was no need for them, with fabrication technologies of the time you could have easily fit all the TTL logic into a single die though

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>>60166259
>>60166279
>>60166287
>Celeron

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>>60166281
was talking about a different machine
the machine described in the book "soul of a new machine", that is, the Data General Eclipse MV/8000.

The Soul of a New Machine is a non-fiction book written by Tracy Kidder and published in 1981. It chronicles the experiences of a computer engineering team racing to design a next-generation computer at a blistering pace under tremendous pressure. The machine was launched in 1980 as the Data General Eclipse MV/8000. The book won the 1982 National Book Award for Nonfiction[1] and a Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction.

" Their project, code-named "Fountainhead", is to give Data General a machine to compete with the VAX computer from Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), which is starting to take over the new 32-bit minicomputer market"

that was the machine (as I just described from book - the engineer, @ the start of a book, gets into a room (fixed up with an ops guy), with a DEC VAX (32 bit) .. gets the back off it, sees how many boards, chips, they used -- sees the tracery, the communication

they built it smaller, faster

>>60166341
>Data General Eclipse MV/8000
Fucking gold

>>60166341
the most interesting thing in that book, I found, was the parallel development -- they developed the OS, before the machine was finished .. they also built a hardware emulator, to debug the OS, both of those on another machine. they worked @ blistering pace & they were all a bit nuts (and pale). It was a race. When they demoed, it, it was overheating, they ordered up refrigeration vans, rightaway, sorted that out -- no expense spared. It goes into the OS and the bug tracking in-depth. "dealers in lightning, is more about personalities, organisation (xerox)". "soul of a new machine" is about the hardware, software

>>60156015
Homestuck cuck

>>60166391
IIRC the Amigas ROM and OS was written before the machine was built too, having the whole machine built on cards with off the shelf TTL logic for software development

>>60166391
hardware emulator to debug the hardware

'soul of a new machine' their "hello world", was "massive adventure" .. the first thing that they ran on the hard wired machine .. the machine put together as a slow prototype with a maze of wires. "you are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike"

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>>60156015
>You know it's a repost, when...

>>60166323
The 5410US can be upgraded to the following motherboards:
244759-002
-Socket A/462
-266 MHz System Bus
-256 KB L2 Cache
-Supports AMD Athlon XP up to 2600+, 2.13 GHz
-Supports up to 512 MB of RAM
267528-002
-Socket 478
-400 Mhz System Bus
-256 KB L2 Cache
-Supports Pentium 4 up to 2.0, 2.00 GHZ
-Supports up to 1GB of RAM
The 5bw131 will be more difficult to upgrade however

>>60166422
biggest rocket ignite boost (apart from microsoft), of that era was the

The Mead & Conway revolution was a very-large-scale integration (VLSI) design revolution which resulted in a worldwide restructuring of academic education, and was paramount for the development of industries based on the application of microelectronics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead_%26_Conway_revolution

& the software surrounding that
& yes (remembering) , that was out of XEROX PARC. The girl who was demonstrating symbolics to steve jobs (jobs meets xerox, legend), she was the developer of the mead conway revolution (book), inspired VLSI circuit design software (which could be achieved on the ALTO).

>>60166462
You don't need to upgrade the motherboard, just the CPU

>>60166480
>The girl
Someone has pics of that seamon deamon?

>>60166460
>G-Technology
that's way cooler than /gee/

>>60166484
Yeah, but the motherboard that comes with it is restricted to PPGA370 socket processors running at 100 FSB

>>60166259
>>60166279
>>60166287
>>60166462
what does make this machine so different that you can't run the things on a new PC?

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>>60166498
ud have to read the book

>>60166552
?
I got them for free from one of my relatives. I didn't intend to use this as an everyday use pc, but more of an experimentation kind of pc

>>60166498
it describes .. the book is something like .. it arose from 500 interviews -- everyone who was there, everyone who worked @ xerox park, then. Says that "everyone saw a different bit of the elephant" about steve jobs arriving there. They @ xerox were looking down their noses at jobs as being a 'hobbyist' .. most of them had PHDs... they were very bitchy .. some of them weren't .. one statement related is "how does it feel working for someone who isn't a PHD?" , but the central, driven manager there didn't have a PHD. He had a bunch of photos on his office wall of machines he'd built (and below it a huge, expanding dent in the wall, where he would kick it, on special occasions). arguments related (dealers in lightning is all about the personalities). this guy bullying another guy, saying "what do you actually DO? you do nothing." .. repeatedly. That guy being in another vague (to him region of software that he didn't care about) .. the "graphics" guy, he who founded silicon graphics, he was getting persecuted -- they just didn't get it. The description of the "sales meeting", where the ALTO workstation, symbolics lisp machine is demonstrated to jobs. Central. The sales people in that room were nothing.

book describes (3rd qtr) .. guy who gets recruited by gates. "gates drove me to the airport" .. "gates fedexed me my acceptance, contract" "got there the first day (he describes)"

hes just in there, water cooler .. no idea what or where yet. gates walks up to him "have you seen chess?" he replies "well it's an achievable AI problem, but it's not really of interest to me, it's not something that i'm interested in working on". Gates: "come with me" .. takes him to a room. In it is the PC XT prototype (code name chess). IBM .. the lot.

the decline (IMO)

>>60166724
>They @ xerox were looking down their noses at jobs as being a 'hobbyist' .. most of them had PHDs... they were very bitchy
so like /g/? bitchy faggots who think they are the smartest

>>60166724
xerox approached harvard -- they thought of putting the PARC there. Harvard, described in the book as "town and gown", snootily rejected involvement in anything "commercial"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AykEB1JWQMs

>>60166724
so they got their cruddy, marginal GUI onto the XT, that is a decade after the alto workstation had a superior GUI/infastructure (symbolics), with a full office suite of software, ethernet

which was theirs

>>60166724
>the decline (IMO)
Then you would be better off right now without having the ability to post here? As there would not be another way for such technology to progress in our society

>>60166760
it's the bitchiest industry because it's unregulated
& things get stolen, all the time

>>60166812
XT was a microcomputer though unlike the Alto that was a minicomputer, a decade or not, it was still progress

>>60166814
on this bulletin board?
you think facebook / twitter are anything advanced? you think that I should be grateful that I am typing within a mess, a browser that has been developed so inorganically, badly, thwartedly, onto some disk somewhere? this is the future right? No, it is 1991, with sharper graphics

>>60166829
>things get stolen, all the time
to be fair it's pretty impossible to regulate such things, since the dawn of technology people have always profited from other peoples ideas

>>60166858
>this is the future right? No, it is 1991, with sharper graphics
exactly, but it isn't any different how things could be, unless you would live in an utopian society with government funded research and development for everything

>>60166208
watching that (part 1). there, is a "disk controller" card with 3 sockets & 104 TTL chips. That is early. Described in "dealers in lightning" (xerox parc history), is how suddenly, they figured out that not only could they flip between the display and processing, they could flip between processing and other things. Interrupts

so they managed to do disk control from the processor module, avoiding the need to have a full disk controller board

>>60167304
Saw it too

>>60156906
Interesting, care to tell us more about this machine?

Holy fuck, I finally got a modern version of Debian running on the Sun E250. Gave up on the whole FreeBSD thingie, since now I want it to just work. Sadly I fucked up the SILO config and I have to fix it from a rescue CD. Should I do it now? It's 2:28AM here.

>>60155906
>Sun E250
u know I had a dell dimension with an iomega zip drive on it. never used the zip drive once .. haven't ever used a zip drive. still feel bad about that. that machine was a workhorse .. think it had 2 psus in it .. it was totally wrecked ' the end. hinges .. drilled bits in the back to put the diff psu in ... absolutely non standard (original graphics, disks) .. but was still using it to program fine, just a couple years ago. hoiked it onto a large pile of other trash some time ago. I miss it. I never even said goodbye

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>>60167657
dave .. what are you doing dave

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Would'ya look at that wondereful curses interface over a 9600 baud serial connection

>>60167723
there were minis/mainframes that had boards that were 'hot swappable'

there were minis/mainframes that would dial up the manufacturer, order for delivery, a new board, schedule engineer

>>60167729
u ever seen that mplayer (video), will go thru curses. it'll play a film thru curses

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>>60155906
alto "diablo" disk
all so modern .. rite @ the start you see the fan arrangement
pro 'space' technology never looks out of date
PCs will always look like shitty tin boxes (no design)

>>60165755
I had to input many licenses when I installed OS/400

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>>60155906
professional stuff
never looks out of date, not like a PC
not like the cruddy NTFS4 based wincrap with it's registry, with it's downtime

design never ages

because it is functional , nobody ever paid attention to the PC case .. microshit never paid attention to the OS. Trading in pure ignorance, with marketing lies (like here, 24/7)

>>60166460
When did he say it was OC?

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>>60167931
pi 3 drives

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>>60167889
alien
all it needs is a brain (possible)

>>60166323
Early celeries with the on-die full-speed cache were the fucking bomb. Most samples easily did a 50% overclock on air and annihilated the more expensive PII.

>>60166552
It's a decent period piece for pre-Vista stuff.

>>60166760
Meh, those guys are like the academics from Good Will Hunting, while /g/ is basically a nerdy version of the drunken Boston degenerates

>>60167931
>>60167960
I might eventually wanna remake this kinda shit with a raspberry.

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>>60156592
>>60156562
>>60156531

IBM did is classy

>>60157605

I figured it out when I was literally 10

>>60165790
AS/400 != RS/6000
They're two entirely different things, they never ran Unix, early ones didn't even use POWER chips as they predated the architecture by two years, and later POWER-based models still run the same unrelated virtual instruction set as their predecessors.

If you're going to be a condescending smartass, at least use Google yourself first.

>>60165755
Dug through some mailing lists and it seems like your only way of getting Linux on an AS/400 is running a PPC distro in an LPAR in an existing OS/400 installation, sucks. I could be wrong though, but the information is sparse and IBM definitely didn't support it standalone on their systems, at least not ones from that era.

ctrl + f --> no Olivetti?

I'll post my folder

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>>60169047
Olivetti 1/16

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>>60169116
Olivetti 2/16

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>>60169131
Olivetti 3/16

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>>60169142
Olivetti 4/16

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>>60169155
Olivetti 5/16

>>60166259
>>60166279
>>60166287
Have you thought about turning one of these into a sleeper PC?

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>>60169170
Olivetti 6/16

>>6016917
*those

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>>60169188
Olivetti 7/16

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>>60169204
Olivetti 8/16

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>>60169227
Olivetti 9/16

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>>60169247
Olivetti 10/16

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>>60169262
Olivetti 11/16

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>>60169274
Olivetti 12/16

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>>60169290
Olivetti 13/16

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>>60169308
Olivetti 14/16

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>>60169325
Olivetti 15/16

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>>60169344
Olivetti 16/16

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>>60169355
Olivetti bonus 1/3

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>>60169364
Olivetti bonus 2/3

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>>60169375
Olivetti bonus 3/3

>>60169383

The M20 had a baller keyboard.

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>>60169047
>Olivetti
>literally the apple store of typewriters

>>60168793
this language-free pictogram approach is a great idea, needs to be seen more often with error conditions imo

>>60167889
>PCs will always look like shitty tin boxes (no design)
Enterprise shit is pretty timeless also though

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>>60167956

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>>60168793
Reminds me of the Amiga "insert floppy" screen

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>>60168874
He asked about late 90's AS/400, did you even read hes post?
They all used a PowerPC core.
He asked if he could install Linux instead of the original OS/400, but on the late 90's machines Linux is out of the question, the next closest thing to Linux is AIX (UNIX) that could be run on it.

Instead of being a correcting asshole whose knowledge is based on Google, you might at least want to read the posts properly before and get a few machines to have first hand knowledge.

>>60169142
is that a sewing machine? kek

>>60169695
Topkek

>>60169047
>>60169383
You didn't post my Olivetti, now I'm sad

Anyone run old roguelikes on their machines? Angband, Nethack, the good ol' early 90s games

why is old tech so comfy?

>>60172796
Sure thing

>>60172830
its built well, meant to last forever and actually be used more than a year, and has classic aesthetic

>>60155906
Is it LGR's build? Also,
>woodgrain

>>60172989
Yes

>>60172830
Because, don't question it, just enjoy it

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>>60169695

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this is really sexy but must be one of the rarest computers in the world right now

>>60173437
Don't think so, things like C65 exist

>>60173437
Rarer than a Alto?
I doubt it's one of the rarest, it was in production for almost two years.

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>>60173455
This is the only page with photos of the Escom Design PC I could find on the Internet.
http://www.sax.de/~zander/zubehoer/comped.html

>>60173424
That's one cool looking PC box

>>60172439
Topkek? He's right. America had spies working in Italy at the time, just to imitate what Olivetti was doing.

>>60172775
What's your Olivetti?

>>60172126
It's probably inspired by sewing machines, yeah. But it was one of the first PCs ever.