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The AMD RX Vega is DOA - 3DMark TimeSpy Benchmark

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http://wccftech.com/timespy-radeon-rx-vega-benchmark-12-april-demo/

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/possible-radeon-rx-vega-3dmark-time-spy-benchmark-result.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/68frcv/possible_vega_timespy_benchmark_result/

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1544741

>In its current state, the RX Vega is not faster than the 1080 Ti. This is a performance level that is to be expected with a core count of 4096 and clock rates that are aiming to be around 1500 MHz. The RX Vega GPU is stated as being manufactured on the 14nm FinFET
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Great way to start a fucking thread with libbit and wccftech you fucking cocksucker.
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>In its current state, the RX Vega is not faster than the 1080 Ti
oh wow, btfo
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Is this some kind of shitposting general now?
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>>60150450
Sort of.
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>>60150417
Waitâ„¢ Navi :3
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>>60150417
>linking plebbit
what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>60150460
Neat. I'll start the fire, I guess.
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>>60150482
1% IPC uplift? Sasuga Intel.
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>>60150417
We already had a thread for this rumormill bullshit.

>>60146186

It was thorougly discredited. Now fuck off.
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>>60150417
>>60150447

>In its current state, the RX Vega is not faster than the GTX 1080 and certainly not the 1080 Ti*
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>>60150532
see
>>60148806
and
>>60148898
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>>60150532
I don't think Vega's out yet, anon.
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>>60150417
You forgot the samefag the crying wojaks, shitposters getting lazy these days.
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>>60150557
Stop, I don't want my posts linked to any more shitposting threads.
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>>60150557
>CL_DEVICE_NATIVE_VECTOR_WITH_FLOAT=1

Can you elaborate because I'm retarded.
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>>60150417
>Currytech
>Leddit
>Fucking 3dmark
Holy shit, at least add more links if you plan on doing quantity > quality.
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>>60150619
reprogrammable shaders disabled.
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>>60150640
Not him but what's wrong with leddit Red Team, Guru3d and 3dmark????
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This is a GPU device ID from December/Jan, there are two newer devices already.

Who hires these retarded """""journalists""""" ?
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>>60150655
Can you more elaborate?
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>>60150673
Only if you tell me how long you've been browsing /g/ for :)
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>>60150417
Wccf said the 500 series would be dual fan reference cards and average 1500mhz OCs
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>>60150697
fp64 shaders aren't reprogrammed into 2xfp32 shaders depending on load
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>>60150726
Why would anyone do that.
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>>60150745
Because it's a engineering sample straight outta the fabs, hence its :C1 PCI ID and hardware features are disabled along with much lower clockspeed
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>>60150745
It's a leaked engineering sample, that's why.
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>>60150417
>http://wccftech.com/timespy-radeon-rx-vega-benchmark-12-april-demo/

>1200 MHz

>9.8 TFLOPs

yep checks out looks legit
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>>60150745
Because chips don't come perfect out of the oven, that's it takes at least 6 months to come on shelves after they're first made, usually it's well over 8 months
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>>60150689
STOP EXPECTING HARDWARE SITES TO KNOW ABOUT HARDWARE THAT'S RACIST
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>>60150417
>https://www.reddit
You have to go back.
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>>60150476
So long as it makes nvidia look good
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AMD trying to figure out how much they have to cut down the Vega 10 chips so that gap between a 580 and Vegas lowest card is not too large
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>>60150850
No, read the damn thread.
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>>60150689
>guru3d is now shill site
/r/amd wants you back
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>amd

AMD is a mess. I want ATI back
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>fury will blow nvidia
>poolaris will blow nvidia
>vega will blow nvidia
>navi will blow nvidia

AMDdrones are so funny
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>>60150875
>possible
As valid as woodscrews.
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>replying to bait thread
>not hiding it

you're the cancer that's killing /g/
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>>60150875
Kek. Are you retarded? Guru3D has always been a shill site from both sides; it just depends on what content you post.
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>>60150882
>AMD is a mess. I want ATI back
Ye, because HD2000 was not a major fuckup.
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>>60150875
If they regurgitate what some other retards say without doing any research they're no better than "make-shit-up-wccftech"
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if it cheap
Sound like dream card for crypto, gamer can btfo
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>>60150929
>if it cheap
Nah. ~530mm^2 die and 2 stacks of HBM2 with interposer are not cheap.
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Why don't they just give up on their GPU division and start working on the CPU division or vice versa?
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>>60150987
Because heterogeneous compute, that's fucking why.
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>>60150987
>>60151000
Maybe only console and APU
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>>60151027
>what are fucking HPC (especially ML part) markets
/v/eddit pls go.
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What matters is how much it will sell for.

$400+ = Vega sucks
$300-$350 = great buy
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>>60150987
AMD has had the best mid range cards since the 200 series, only place they tend to lag behind is the high end, they have 1/10th of nvidia and Intel's R&D budgets
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>>60151062
>>60150945
It's $550 at very least.
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>>60151062
1080 performance at $400 is pretty solid
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>>60151042
>I hate people who don't like what I like

AMD make very good APU, Nvidia doesn't have x86 licence, Intel igpu suck and look how powerful is the new Xbone so what is the problem?
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>>60151065
>only place they tend to lag behind is the high end
Only due to Fiji being a flop because gluing two Tongas together without changing frontend was a bad idea.
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>>60151084
Yes they do, and Raven Ridge will be fantastic. I literally said 'heterogeneous compute'. APUs are that.
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>>60151092
Was probably the only way to get it out at a decent pace, look at how much performance it can get with better drivers and things like DX12/Vulkan
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>>60151062
>Price → Ryzen:Intel = VEGA:NVIDIA
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>>60151114
It still heavily lacks geometry throughtput. Vega is about to fix that, though.
>>60151127
Well if $329 CPU beats $1100 one, then Vega10 is going to fight Titan Xp or 1080ti?
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>>60151145
>Price → Ryzen:Intel = VEGA:NVIDIA
>Price
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>>60151164
That's what i fucking said. $329 CPU competes with $1100 one.
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>>60150875
is that the kid that got robbed by his older brother?
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>>60151179
No it means Intel's top was $1050 while AMD's was $499.
Top vega will be less than $600
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>>60151254
I'd say it'll be $550 like 290x back then.
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>>60150512
Yfw
40 cores on new chip > 44cores on old chip
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>>60151092
But it was still as fast as a stock 980ti with the massive bottlenecks so it wasn't all that bad.
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>>60151305
And Nano was the king of SFF cards.
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>>60151293
At higher clocks though.
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>>60151316
100mhz isn't really that much of a bump.
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>>60151336
Spread over 40 cores? Oh it quite is in MT tests.
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>>60151359
It's still less cores than Naples, while running the same clocks. Skylake-EX/EP looks very weak.
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>>60151082
>1080 performance at $400 is pretty solid

The instant Vega is out, Nvidia will drop the 1080 price to $400.
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>>60150417
>Remember, AMD usually follows the policy of underpromising and overdelivering
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>>60151385
And?
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>>60151385
Nope. Vega could be 1080ti for $300 and people would still buy a 1080 at current prices. It's the nature of the market
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>>60151406
That means that Vega at $400 is a bad buy.

It needs to be less than that, if these perf numbers are real.
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>>60151385
And reveal to everyone who bought the 1080 just how hard they've been jewed? Doubtful.
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>>60151404
kekd
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>>60151385
Even assuming that happens I'm not gonna see that pricedrop for a few months, maybe on Fools Edition cards, but aftermarket? Doubt it
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>>60151435
>It needs to be less than that, if these perf numbers are real.
They are not. Can you read the fucking thread?
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>>60150417
>Thread bashing AMD
>everyone flocks in to defend AMD with their last dying breath
>make thread bashing Intel
>FUCKING LMAO STUTTERTEL CORELETS
>and people still claim there are paid Intel shills here
Lmao
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>>60151442
reminder that 1080 is a year old card drone
price fixing is normal
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>>60151468
>everyone flocks in to defend AMD with their last dying breath
How?
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>>60151442
>release TitanX
>release 1080ti with slightly more performance
>release TitanXp with slighty more performance
Nvidiots are used to feel that way
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>>60151450
Oh, they're real all right, but they have nothing to do with retail numbers.

Did no one watch that event during Winter? These are the same cards with that extended PCB with USB debug port.
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>>60151431
exactly, just like ryzen. People still buys tonnes of quadcores even though they are obsolete.
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>>60151481
And it's all GP102. NVIDIA basically sells one card three times.
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>>60151468
You don't understand. AMDrones do it for free. It's a cult culture.
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>>60151494
That's perfectly normal, Fiji had 4 cards.
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>>60151478
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>>60151568
>3 posts is now "with their last dying breath"
>Being this desperate
The last anon isn't wrong, though.
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>>60151481
>Release Titan X
>Release cheaper card with better performance
>Improve silicon yields by 15%
>Oh shit we can release the Titan X again
It's pretty easy to do this when your competitor is a drooling retard and can't into high end
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>>60151568
It is shitposting general.
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>>60151568
Ah yeah, forgot that Nvidiots/Intelfags are regular plebitors and use wccftech as sources, what was I thinking.
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>>60151594
>I-It's not their last dring breath
>I-Into the trash it goes
>H-Ha fucking s-shitposter
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>>60151594
>>60151602
>>60151604
>two minutes after thread is posted
>FUCKING REDDIT COCKSUCKER
>SHITPOSTER
>amdchan posting
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>>60151632
This thread was linked from the previous one.
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>>60151614
>3 posts is now considered "to their dying breath"
Oh goy, what year is it?
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>>60151632
So what's your excuse for using wccftech and linking to libbit? Do you think you're on youtube you underage shit?
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>>60151568
Thats a post mocking all the "AMD BTFO" threads we see around any CPU/GPU launch from shitposters
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>>60151632
>Anon being this mad
Taking this shitposting general into the next level, eh?
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>>60151646
>f-fucking intel
look at the rest of the thread detective, I'm not going to make an r/4chan edit for you
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>>60151632
>anti-reddit = pro-amd
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>>60151662
>anything against AMD is shitposting general
and once again, you think there are paid intel shills here
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>>60151665
Kek. Not even r/4chan would accept your kind of shitposting.
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>>60151683
No, it just so happens that all AMD-related threads are filled to the brime with shitposting.
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>thread has nothing to do with intel
>faggots still bring them up

this is about video cards for fucks sake
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>>60151699
AMD shills
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>>60151683
>Being this retarded
>>60150426
Kek. They do it for free too.
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>>60151727
>they do it for free
so are you
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>>60151699
The "news" was bullshit bait discredited in another thread from the start. There's nothing left to do but sling shit in every direction because this thread is terminal AIDS.
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>>60151735
>B-b-but y-you do too!
I guess that makes both of us, eh?
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>>60151751
The difference is im not shilling anyone
You are
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>>60151762
>Intlel unironically believing this
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>60151785
>Never mention a single word of intel
lmao drop your boogeyman kid
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>>60151802
>Anonymous board
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If Vega has a good price for its performance, I don't really care if its not up to nvidia's high end product (that has terrible price for performance, btw).

What am I gonna do? let the jews buttfuck me by buying nvidia cards? Nah, I'm OK, thanks.
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>rx480 CF = 1080
>Vega will compete with volta
>Fury X is the overclockers dream

Everything amdrones says is just fail.
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>>60151829
Vega is supposed to be AMD's next generation GPU. No shit it's supposed to compete with Volta.

The Fury X being an overclocker's dream is retarded though.
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Just out of curiosity, what use do you have for you high end cards? (1070 +)

Not even shitposting here. You play every release in 4K or something?
What games?
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>>60151850
>No shit it's supposed to compete with Volta.
Source?
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>>60151867
Yep
4k maxed 60 fps whatever release I want
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>>60151892
Neither of them have been released, retard. I don't have a source.
>GTX 500 - HD 6000
>GTX 600 - HD 7000
>GTX 700 - RX 200
>GTX 900 - RX 300/FURY
>GTX 1000 - RX 400
Gee wiz, I wonder what'll come up next!
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>>60151937
>GTX 1000 - RX 400/Vega
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>>60151914

Yes...what release?
What games are worth that kind of investment lately?

Have been playing only CSGO for a long time now...
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>>60151829
>amdrones defend this
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>>60151965
no single game
but being able to play whatever I want at 4k 60fps maxed is worth it
I could easily bring up plenty of games I have had fun playing with friends and looked beautiful at 4k but then you would just say "nah not worth it shitty" it's subjective
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>>60151964
>Being this retarded
>Pic related
>Implying AMD's not going to compete against Volta
This discussion is beyond retarded.
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>>60151996
4k is a meme, true gamers play at 144Hz or hgiher
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>>60152001
>Implying meaning
>no confirmation

So we can confirm that nothing indicates that Vega was built to compete with Volta apart from an active imagination
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>>60152006
Shove your shitty FPS garbage up your ass, there hasn't been a good FPS since HL2 and Unreal '99
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>>60151996

Why are you so scared of being judged in an anonymous board? I'm honestly out of the loop for big AAA releases for a long time.

Come on, what games?
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>>60152006
Why would I want to play Dark souls 3 at 144hz
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>>60152023
We don't know anything about Volta. Maybe it's another Pascal-tier "architecture".
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>>60152023
>AMD releases RX 500
>AMD is soon going to release VEGA
>AMD is not going to compete again VOLTA
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>>60151996
>no single game
>but being able to play whatever I want at 4k 60fps maxed is worth it

I can smell the buyers remorse from here.
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>>60152040
> Pascal-tier "architecture"
Wait, what's wrong with pascal? It was a great power efficiency improvement.
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>>60152035
Games I've been playing alot of latelely
Dark Souls 3
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Arma 3
WarThunder
Ashes of the Singularity
Battlefield 1
Forza Horizon 3
Rise of the tomb raider
Nier automata
Little nightmares
Skyrim special edition
And a little bit of dishonored 2
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>>60152047
Spending over 200 dollars for a single game is fucking retarded, hence why PS4 owners get fucked regularly

But spending alot of money to play ANY new release at 4k 60fps is worth it
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>>60152054
>Literally Maxwell with higher clocks
C'mon Nvidia, when are you going to release a GPU with a built-in hardware scheduler? Housefires need not apply.
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>>60152054
It was a dieshrink. That's it.
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>>60152054
Nvidia might build a card performing 3x the amd offering and amdrones still will call it a failure because it's not a housefire buttcoin miner.
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>>60152054
Only thing that changes is clocks, Nvidia blew their 'new arch' card with Maxwell
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>>60152078
Kek. The last time Nvidia had a built-in hardware scheduler, it was a larger house fire than reference cooled Hawaii cards.
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>>60152055

Out of these games Dark Souls 3 and Nier automata are pretty good games. Not sure about the rest.

Some of them, like Rise of the tomb raider, looks just like the most recent benchmark-game that no one will remember in a few years, just more of the same with ''groundbreaking'' visuals...
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>>60152065

The fuck are you on about? PS4 games are 60 dollars, and only if its a triple A release...
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>>60152105
Fermis were spooky. I wonder what'll happen when NVIDIA will reintroduce hardware scheduling.
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>>60152055
shit taste in games
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>>60152099
Pascal cards have less cores that Maxwell cards..
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>>60152141
Their higher clocks compensate for that; sorry anon.
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>>60152128
>You have to spend 200 dollars to play that one good 60 dollar game
>>60152136
Good for you gordon ramsey
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>>60152141
You mean more, GP102 has 3800+ shaders, GM200 had 3000.

And Pascal is the first time in 20 years that AMD and Nvidia have a similar number of cores per mm2
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>>60152162
What about 980ti vs 1070?
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>>60151829
>rx480 CF = 1080
Raja is an idiot, he should have left it for Navi. You can bet your ass we're getting two chips like Polaris on one card with a MCM so we can have high range GPUs at mid-high tier prices.
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>>60152170
980ti has more cores than the 1070 and 1080
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>>60152070
Fermi got it but
Nvidia software solution is far better, amd one step behind, still on fermi era
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>>60152170
>comparing GM200 vs GP104
You're comparing flagships to lower range cards.

GM200 vs GP102
GM204 vs GP104
GM206 vs GP106

These are architectural comparisons
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>In it's current state Vega....
That's wrong you fucking rertards.
They did show 70 fps in doom ultra 4k
this puts Vega ENGINEERING SAMPLE on the level of Titan X

And that was locked on 1200Mhz.

So this is probably desperate Nvidia panick shilling trying to sell their last cards before bankrupting.
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>>60152179
It was mostly a demonstration of what proper multi-GPU scaling could do. No one does it though.
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>>60152149
But the powerdraw is very low while polaris is not
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>mfw amdrones
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>>60152185
>Nvidia can't into DX12
>Software solution is far better
What did anon mean by this?
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>>60152151

I see. Well, I would not be so judmental about console kiddies that pay that for a dozen exclusives they like when you have done a much worse investment yourself.

playing console ports and indie games in 4K is not exactly impressive, anon.
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>>60152206
Something something DRM slurp slurp
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>>60152185
>amd one step behind
It's more like AMD is too far ahead that it overflows to the bottom. HW scheduling is GOAT when these new APIs are used correctly.
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>>60152201
What the fuck? We aren't even talking about Polaris.
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>>60152201
GCN is very different to Keklers and successors. You can't directly compare their powerdraw.
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>>60152185

>software solution far better
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>>60152215
I pay to play what I want at 4k 60fps maxed out
not what you want
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>>60152185
>Nvidia software solution is far better
It's so good that it's DX11- only, they can't port that magic to shit like Vulkan or meme12.
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>>60152227
k
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>>60152236
You can't port it because it turns DX11 into ghetto DX12.
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>>60152223
For the same power, with less cores Pascal is faster than Maxwell while Polaris still draw a lot of power. That's why I don't think Pascal are rebrand of Maxwell, the IPC is higher.
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>>60152201
It's around Maxwell efficiency.
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>>60152251
Clock per clock with the same shader count they are the same. Pascal is a dieshrink.
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>>60152251
Actually the IPC is lower they just bumped up the niggahertz
a 1080 at 1.5ghz is beat by a 980ti at 1.5ghz
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id tech is going to blow nvidia the fuck out with vega

just look at what they did with doom and now their official partners with AMD
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>>60152257
And that's without tricks like tiled rasterisation.
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>>60152251
Now slap a hardware scheduler on; what does it become? Hopefully not a gigantic house fire.
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>>60152070
It still far better improvement then polaris bring
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>>60152283
>nvidia doesn't have hardware schedular-70% marketshare and best highend cards
>amd does have a hardware schedular-20% marketshare and no highend cards
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>>60152286
Both are dieshrinks with minor architecture changes.
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This thread is so shit that this is a valid contribution to it.
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>>60151065
>Diminishing returns
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>>60152257
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>>60152301
>I started following GPUs with Maxwell and Hawaii
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>>60152310
That's poolaris clocked way past it's optimal clocks.
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>>60152286
Polaris doesn't bring anything, it's Fiji cut in half with a GDDR controller, it's still similar in perf/watt to Fiji and you seem to have a hard time understanding that AMD's midrange and highend architectures are very different, unlike Nvidias
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>>60152301
So, are you planning to argue that Nvidia can get away with software scheduling into too few CPU threads indefinitely? And that they will NEVER be forced to focus on DX12/Vulkan which CANNOT use software schedule trickery like DX11? And that Nvidia will never have to re-introduce hardware scheduling?
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>>60152055

So this is why everyone avoids talking about games in GPU related threads...

Most of the good games are actually pretty easy to run. There has not been a great AAA PC exclusive in ages...
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>>60152313
But I'm literally talking about the present
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>>60152269
>a 1080 at 1.5ghz is beat by a 980ti at 1.5ghz

nahhh
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>>60152332
>muh exclusive
literally who cares though? I didn't buy a PC for exclusive games since I'm not a never ever shitposter. I bought a PC to play whatever I want however I want at whatever settings, framerate, resolution I want
>>
>>60152344
Actually it's completely true
go compare scores, a 980ti at 1.5ghz has the same performance as a stock 1080
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>>60152310
So, more-or-less Maxwell level?
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>>60152370
Yes.
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>>60152355

I'm not one of those never ever shitposters.
You have stated several times that you play whatever in high settings and all...but what is even there to play? Shitty games, mostly, from your little list. Most of them any potato PC can play in 1080p.

I just don't see the appeal, but if you are into it, whatever floats your boat, I guess...
>>
>>60152390
I already told you that you were gonna pull this
"it's not worth it to me your games are shit", it was my list not yours, your opinion literally means nothing lmao since you're not the one who bought it
>>
>>60152410

Like I said, you do you, anon.

I was just curious about what motivates someone to buy a 500+ usd card...
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>>60152362
>lower memory bus size
>less cores
>less ROPs
>lower TDP
>still same performance @ the same clock


C'mom, not the same architecture
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>>60152436
>throwing more hardware due to dieshrinks is now an architecture change
Wew.
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>>60152436
I'm not saying it's the same architecture though
the 1080 gets 4998 in firestrike ultra
a 980ti at 1.5ghz gets 4992 in firestrike ultra
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>>60151632
>Likes Reddit
>Hates AMD-chan

Hmmmm, really puts the pedal to the metal to rev up my brain levels
>>
>>60152435
>Be AMDumbfuck
>Get no 4k cards
>4-4k is a meme why would you buy a high end card
>Y-Your games are shit...
>...
>...
Quit it with the reddit tier pauses and passive aggressive-ness, if you want to be an annoying cunt just go the whole way, don't pussyfoot around
>>
>>60152362
Pascal have more cache
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>>60152484
>Unironically defending 4K
>B-b-but muh AMD Bogeyman
Kek. 1440p, 144Hz, you silly faggot.
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>>60152490
Cool good for pascal
Still doesn't make the scores any different, 980ti at 1.5ghz is the same as a stock 1080 performance wise
>>
>>60152484
>4k card
>with 20FPS dips

Are you joking, not even a 1080ti overclocked can get a stable 60FPS
>>
>>60152484
>implying

Rocking a GTX 960 and enjoying Bayonetta.
One of the few good game releases that isn't shit or bait for ''high end'' cards.

Runs like an angel.

Stop projecting your own insecurities, anon.
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>>60152530
>960
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>>60150987
>wanting to give up x86 license
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>>60152548
>A shitty reaction pic
Now look! Here's mine!
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>>60152516
not him but my two 980tis run everyone ultra 4k 60
>inb4 muh sli maymay
not an argument
>>
>>60152548

What if I told you I could buy a 1080 Ti with ease, but I'm not willing to?

Are you really that delusional? Not everyone with money is that stupid, anon...
>>
>>60152530
>Runs like an angel
angels don't run
does your game not even run at all? that sucks anon
>>
>>60152511

>1440 is meme.
>Faster than 120hz is meme

4k @60-120hz with 10-Bit HDR and adaptivesync with a quality screen and no light bleed with color calibration is your saviour. There is no GPU out right now that lets you achieve that. Until Vega.

No Acer junk, no Asus garbage, no Korean off-brand refurbished trash.
>>
>>60152572
>I-I could buy a 1080ti easily...
>Y-You're just stupid with your money...
.....................................
>>
>>60152530
>a game from 2009
>Runs like an angel.
i mean i hope so anon
>>
>>60150417
You do realize early Poolaris samples ran at 800 MHz, right?
Also even a ~4000 cores Polaris, almost twice as much as P10, and the same 1.2 GHz clock speed, would be faster than that.
>>
>>60152564
>SLI

Lmao
>>
>>60152564

So you only play Tomb Raider and Ashes of the Singularity? Your SLi is a garbage set up. Almost as much as a dual Polaris 20.
>>
>>60152604

Yes.

Ironic green text doesn't change that, no matter how much you want to.
>>
>>60152614
not an argument, if all the games I play support it then how is it an issue
>>60152616
>wahhhhh it's garbage
except it runs everything at 4k 60 ultra so how is that an issue, seems like you're just pissy
>>
>>60152604
>...........................
>Running out of arguments
>>
>>60152608

Not that many good hack'n'slash games around, I take whatever I can get.
>>
>>60152628
Kek. How's the stuttering?
>>
>>60152643
There isn't any
The stutter meme is from pre-2011
>>
>>60152628

>everything on ultra 4k@60

Except I can count on one hand the recent games that even use SLi.

Enjoy wasting your money!

I'll just be laughing at your mom's credit card statement.
>>
>>60152658
>Except I can count on one hand the recent games that even use SLi
You must have alot of fingers, have you even bothered to check SLI support before making such a retarded statement?
>>
>>60152628
>it's supported in all 3 games I play

Good for you.
>>
>>60152694
No need to samefag anon
>>
>>60152675

Which new game runs SLi in Direct X 12?
>>
>>60152703

>multiple people pointing out you're an idiot is a conspiracy by one mastermind.
>>
>>60152628
>Unironically using SLI
>Anon fell for the SLI meme
>In 2017
>>
>>60152713
I don't even think I own any DirectX 12 games, have any even come out this year?
I can think of a few and they all have SLI support
Deus Ex
Ashes of the singularity
Rise of the Tomb raider
Hitman
Sniper Elite 4
Those are the only DirectX 12 games I can think of
>>
>>60152743
Actually did it in 2015, good try though
>>
>>60152770
>Still using SLI
Seems like you're still falling for it, anon.
>>
>>60152770

You're a time traveler with 1080s in SLi in 2015?
>>
>>60152785
I never said 1080s though
>>60152781
What's the point when no single card solution has been able to match the performance I'm getting, TitanXp is close though
>>
>>60152803

In three games.
>>
>>60152813
>three games
you really have no idea what you're talking about do you
>>
>>60152832
Kek. Take a look at this shit, anon.

http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/technology/sli?title=&sort_bef_combine=%20&sort_order=&sort_by=
>Inb4 31 pages
There are only about 4 pages of games you should consider using SLI for. Top Kek!
>>
>>60152859
>t-three games
>actually 31 pages
I play the majority of those games so that's perfect
>>
FAKE NEWS
>>
>>60152859

>372 games

Actually not as bad as I thought it would be, I'll admit to being wrong. Still a meme though.
>>
>>60152879
>4 pages of SLI worthwhile games
>Fucking Farming-Simulator-tier games past that
Kek <---
Kek
Kek
>>
>>60152895
Now look at all the games past ~page 4. Is SLI still worth it, anon?
>>
Maybe someone will talk about Vega?
>>
>>60152914
What's there to talk? You now know the same thing you knew 5 months ago.
>>
>>60152914
Literally no info.
>>
>>60152903
That's not true at all though
>>60152913
You don't get to decide what is worth it or not
>>
>>60152924
>2010-tier games
Gee wiz, I really need SLI for that, eh, anon?
>>
>>60150417
What do you expect from a company lead by a women and a brown shitskin?
>>
>>60152913
>>60152903
Damn 48 games that are worth it? Gonna last me a while
>>
>>60152923
>Latest RX Vega compute benchmarks put it almost 35% faster than GTX 1080

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-rx-vega-sisoft-benchmarks

This is 687F:C3


OP is 687F:C1
>>
>>60152933
>48 games
>SLI users getting this desperate
>>
>>60152963
>48 games I can play at glorious 4k 60fps
Feels really good man I'm gonna be busy for a while thanks for the info
>>
>>60152952
C3 is a revision from February, that's still far from final silicon.
>>
>>60152980
No problem; anyway, I am curious; how much DID you pay for SLI?
>>
>>60153032
Honestly don't remember it was two years ago
I got a good deal on the 980tis so maybe like 800 total and that's being generous
>>
>>60152251
Nvidia high R&D can improve base architecture far faster and better then amd can

If Vega just and improvement over gcn, op score is pretty close to real vega
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>>60150417
> it's a /g/ spergs out over a 25% underclocked ES benchmark leak episode again
>>
>>60153097

>>60151829
>>
Should I just go for a 1070 or /wait/ for Vega? It's for 1080p 75hz.
>>
>>60153123
1070
waiting would bring nothing for that resolution and framerate
>>
>>60153115

>>60150772
But wait, there's more!
>>60152952
>>
>>60153155
>(((compute))) benchmarks
>>
>>60153123
Wait, if you can afford to.
>>
>>60153155
>>60153115
>if an engineering sample is good then it's indicative of release performance
>if an engineering sample is bad then it's fake news and nothing to be trusted
There is a reason it's always AMDumbfucks using the engineering sample arguments
>>
>>60153168
It's still an outdated ES with cut features, anon.
>>
>>60153170
Calmd down AMD shill the 1070 is literally perfect for what he is going to be doing waiting would be a waste
>>
>>60153177
Kek. Have you not seen OP?
>>
>>60153177
Woodscrews.
>>
>>60153155
compute benchmarks. losing to 1080ti, wasnt amd king in this shit

common vega
>>
>>60153199
>f-fucking nvidia
deflection
>>
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>>60153192
>y-yes goy buy nvidia
>>
>>60153192
Holy shit, anon. If he can afford to wait a bit longer, why not just do it?
>Buy a GTX 1070
>Possibly BTFO'd by a fucking GTX 2060
>Possibly outperformed by a fucking similarly price VEGA GPU.
Kek. What are you? Impatient?
>>
>>60153213
Woodscrews.
>>
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This thread needs some Old Memes(tm).
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>>60153215
>JEWS!
ok
>>60153227
You're actually right then
>>60153123
wait anon
>>
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>>60153243
Gotcha senpai.
>>
>Retarded SLI user called out
>Arguments occur
>VEGA shitposting literally ceased
>Arguments stop
>VEGA shitposting resurfaces
Kek. Is this faggot only one user?
>>
>>60153252
I heard the sequel got 3.5 stars
>>
>>60153170
Yeah, I guess my r9 380 can still hold a little longer. Just hope a 500w psu can handle it.
>>
>>60153263
nope I'm the SLI user, don't know about the other guys, there was another guy replying too so he was probably using SLI too
>>
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>>60153267
3.5/4.
>>
>>60153271
Well, as long as it's not a shitty chink-shit power supply.
>>
>>60153289
>There are people who unironically bought a GTX 970 over an R9 390
That being said:
>There are people who unironically bought reference R9 390s
>There are people who unironically buy high-end reference GPUs
Founders Edition included.
>>
>>60153310
>there are people who bough OG Kekler Cucktan
>>
>>60153328
>TFW you bought a GTX 660 Ti
The original GTX 970
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review/2
>>
>>60153347
1.5GB
Kek.
>>
>>60153296
I guess it's good, it's an EVGA 80+ bronze. I mean, if it's holding this monster (power consumption-wise) overclocked and overvolted, it can hold a more efficient card.
>>
>>60153328
I got cucked hard on my GTX 680. Next videocard is from AMD, I don't care how hard it sucks.
>>
>>60153387
Bretty good, anon.
>>
>>60153390

You are not alone, anon.
The worst money I ever spent was that fucking GTX 560, if regret could kill...
>>
>>60153425
>buying Fermi
>ever
Audible kek.
>>
>>60153289
the 460 and the 560ti was based
>>
>>60153436
Housefires for all price ranges! :)
>>
>>60153436
damit
>>60153442
>>
>doubting madam su's AMD

intel sure made that mistake

nvidia was a bit more heads up and only asked for 700 dollars for the 1080ti instead of the 900 they normally wouldve
>>
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>>60153289
>>60153267
>>60153252
Holy shit.
>>
>>60153724
Huang is much more sensible than Krzanich though.
>>
>>60150875
How the fuck do you even get gyno at that age.
>>
>>60153724

>$900 1080ti

???

the 980ti aib partner cards were $700 and amd had nothing for months as well.
>>
>>60152055
People actually play Ashes of the Singularity? It's basically a playable tech demo at this point. Nobody fucking plays it since it's not fun.
>>
If this is the baby Vega with terrible drivers and underclocked like it is, I don't see how Nvidia will compete with Pascal, so it's no wonder they are rushing to launch Volta.

The performance per Watt will be insane.
>>
>>60153936

He's still a bitch though.
>>
these so called benchmarks came from mainland of China ..... if it were real it would be taiwan or US

so many red flags on this but its more fun to throw all logic out the window so we can troll amd? am i rite?,,,....
>>
>>60153205
amd was king due to significantly more powerful hardware, but nvidia pulled out the 'oh fuck amd may be directly on our ass' card and shipped a 5000$ card as 1200$ just so it can retain most powerful gpu when vega lands.
>>
>>60150417
They just can't do anything right anymore.
>>
Can RX 5xx even overclock? I'm planning on upgrading.
>>
>>60155241

The 290 and 390 was great senpai, almost got scammed by my friend when they suggested to get a 970.
Now they complained when new games start to struggling with their 970, while I still going silky smooth in higher setting than theirs.
>>
>>60155262
50mhz and 100 if you are lucky
>>
>>60151500
>AMD drones do it for free.
As opposed to Intel and Nvidia shills who pay for the privilege.
>>
>>60153252
Whatever happened to INElite?
>>
>>60150417
>currytech
>lelddit
lol
>>
>>60151468
Isn' t a normal reaction? I mean building a pc the last 5 years for minor gains is very expensive. Buying an intel skylake to upgrade from previous generation for the sole reason of ddr4 and some usb shit is not really an upgrade. 2016 buying a nvidia titan x for 1200$ and then a few months later 1080ti for 700$ shipwrecks it. A few days later titan xp comes out for 1200$ for a slightly better performance comes out. Are you deliberately trying to screw your customers nvidia really? Plus you know telemetry. Its normal for people with a basic knowledge of computers to root for a company that tries so hard not to screw them up even if it to keep and build up its market share!
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