1st real AMD Vega leak

smart move to sponsor popular AAA games which already run great on AMD hardware thanks to vulkan. will probably result in good reviews in gayming magazines and impress gaymur kiddies.

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>>60111014
I just hope Quake Champions won't be some dumbed down shit. From what I've been hearing so far it will be more like Team Fortress than a proper sequel. I've been waiting for a real new Quake that will bring back the great pro gaming times of Quake1 - 3 for SO fucking long.

Quake 2 was my fucking life for nearly a decade. In my best times I was in a really strong middle European clan and trained for like 6 hours per day, even more when a ranked match was coming up.
Too bad this was before you could make big money with Esports.
Prizes were usually something like a new graphics card or stuff like that.

/blog

>>60111203
you could just, y'know, keep playing quake 1-3
they're not broken

>>60111014
too late AMD, I have a 1080ti coming in the mail

I don't care if Vega is 10% less performance for $100 less money. I want 4k 60fps and you won't deliver that

>>60112026
What if for once AYYMD Vega is 10% more perfomance for $100 less?

>>60112026
what if it's 10% more performance for $100 less money?

>>60112052
>>60112071
I simply just don't think it's possible. I had a 290x and kept it for as long as I could before jumping ship to the 980ti when I got one for cheap and now I'm dumping my 980ti on ebay and getting the 1080ti

the good thing with buying high end GPUs is that they'll have a high resale value even after two years. If Vega is as good as you're saying it could be then I'll dump my 1080ti for Navi in a year

Why are leakers literally incapable of taking a decent quality photograph?

>>60112026
Neither will 1080Ti, next year's lineup should hit the sweetspot.
Jury's still out on Vega, I doubt I will achieve 1080Ti performance upon release but I prefer HBM's smaller form factor and lower power consumption.
Mostly boils down on AMD delivering on price for close enough performance.

>>60112026
>I want 4k 60fps and you won't deliver that

Neither will the 1080Ti

>>60111014
>tfw Vega actually lines up with your regular graphics upgrade schedule
Doesn't even feel like I'm waiting yet. Thanks based AMD.

yeah im waiting. so what nigger?

my 290x is starting to show its age, but its been with me for 4 years now so i cant complain. im running BF1 ultra at about 90fps 1440p

so yah, Vega will replace it to fully take advantage of my sexy 1440p 144hz 27" ips freesync monitor.

>>60112100
it wouldn't look "secret" enough if they did

>>60112084
I have a 290X also, why didi you changed it? For me works great with everything I throw at it for now, 2560x1080 monitor.

>>60112100
>Why are leakers literally incapable of taking a decent quality photograph?

Because then it would be possible to identify the exact product code / serial, and by that, identifying the leaker, and then either prosecute them or just stop sending them stuff thereafter.

>>60112128
>>60112111
>dude it's not that good lmao
I got the Gigabyte Auros one. It does about 10% better than FE out of the box and has another 10% room to overclock

>>60112084
newsflash: nvidia has not so good resell value

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>>60112128
>>60112111

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>>60112145
>I got the Gigabyte Auros one. It does about 10% better than FE out of the box and has another 10% room to overclock
>has another 10% room to overclock
Can it blend?

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>>60112177

>>60112175
>Relative performance
Are you really this stupid?

>>60111203
you can run a server with abilities turned off

>>60112001
the playerbase is lacking

>>60112175
Do you even know how relative performance works? For all you know the 980Ti does 10fps and the 1080Ti Xtreme does 20fps.

>>60112173
I expect to be able to get $300 for it in 2 years, same as what 980tis are going for now
>>60112190
>>60112220
are you stupid? do you want me to start spamming game benchmarks one by one?

every game that isn't a broken console port piece of shit (wildlands, DX:MD, dishonored 2) runs at 60+fps on a 1080ti and the Auros gives another 5-10 fps even at 4k.

Witcher 3, Battlefield 1, Doom 2016, Hitman, ROTT, Crysis 3, etc all run 4k at over 60fps on average.

>>60112001
The Q2 scene is so small nowadays that only 1vs1 tournaments are possible and even for them, it's hard to get enough people. My clan usually played the classic 4vs4 clanwars.

>>60112229
Kill yourself, retard.

>>60111203
>mbed down shi
but we alreadyu haveu overwatchu

>>60112244
I can't believe you people are actually in denial about how good of a card the 1080ti is. Wew lad
>>60112139
because I got a 4k monitor for future proofing and got impatient with only being able to play games at 1080p and the occasional newer game at higher resolutions.

now I have a better paying job and spending $400 total after selling my 980ti is worth it to actually have native 4k performance on my monitor

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>>60112229
>ROTT

Wait, there's a new Rise of the Triad? How did I miss that?

>>60111203
Well, there where the closed beta sing in, and so far its okay, there are some mayor problems with the way the campions are "unlocked": you pay 5k favor to unlock a champion for 24 hours, or real money for a permanent unlock. You get that much favor in 2-3 matches, but yea, i dont like that at all

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>>60112276
rise of the tomb raider, lmao

>>60112229
>are you stupid?
>do you want me to start spamming game benchmarks one by one?

You are on /g/ arguing about videocards, so yes to both of those questions.

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>>60112286
ok senpai this is now an aftermarket 1080ti benchmark thread

>>60112278
Goddamn that sounds like MOBA tier bullshit already..

>>60112279
that'd be rottr, though

>>60112279
Damn you got my hopes up for a sec

>>60112322
>modern gaming industry
>nice things
who are you kidding

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>MSAAx2

>>60112298
>not posting the Galaxy card

pleb.

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>>60112343

>>60112302
It also has hats ;^)

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I wonder if this is with SSAA enabled even at 4k since it's just the Very High preset

>>60112343
>>60112350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFAPw_F3jyg

Best Diablo since Diablo

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>>60112357

Guys.

Guys.

What if--

Guys no wait shut up for a sec.

What if Vega is actually good?

>>60112302
>>60112357
Yea, mova-tier bullshit with customization, gameplay is prety nice, i should git gud but preffer DOOM multiplayer, for now

>>60112380
t. retard

>>60112390
wouldn't that be nice? :)

>>60112390
it will be good, but it won't be better than Nvidia's best

Nvidia has the 1070, 1080, 1080ti, Titan Pascal, and Titan Xp all outperforming the top end AMD card at the moment. The 1080 is already a generation ahead of the Fury X in performance and the 1080ti/Titans are another generation ahead of that

Vega will have to literally double the performance of the Fury X in order to actually compete with Nvidia, otherwise they'll just be the poor option still with a high end card that's not worth getting until it's cheap

>>60112401
I refuse to believe that.

>>60112371
>Best Diablo since Diablo
lofty claim, but i don't like denying-before-trying, so i'll have a look

>>60111014
Vega is just the name of the generation, they wont actually brand the cards Vega. Fake and Gay. Man you people are stupid.

>>60112479
People have been calling it "What Diablo 3 should have been" for a few years now.

>>60112479
>>60112486
Btw that trailer was for Path of Exile 3.0 which isn't released yet. It will come in about 2-3 months.

>>60112486
i didn't look much into diablo III, mainly due to a friend i used to play diablo I/II with got it and was not very impressed by it

>>60111203
I am in the beta, it doesnt bring back Q3A nostalgia at all, i play it every now and then for 10 min team death match at a time

performance is good on my Fury X @ 4k tho

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>>60112071
>>60112052
No fucking way

>>60112486
I thought that one was Torchlight

>>60112484
>Fury is just the name of the generation, they wont actually brand the cards Fury

>>60112484
the pooboss anounced it's going to be named vega.

>>60112515
Torchlight is breddy good, too. I'm playing Torchlight 2 right now while waiting for the PoE expansion to hit.
I've been playing PoE since closed beta in 2011 and needed some time off so I won't burn out after the release.

>>60112426
Not if by HBM2 they meant slapping two FuryX's together on a single card
>checkmate
>fastest card on the planet
>2fast2furious

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>>60112479
From the Steam reviews

>>60112501
>don't like diablo
>best diablo since diablo
>great gonna play it

why

>>60112579
He said that he didn't like Diablo 3, which I can totally understand.

>>60112561
Btw.. PoE has a standalone client. You don't have to use Steam.

>>60112588
he never played it

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>>60112662
You're right. His friend didn't like it.

>>60111203
It's a lot like Quake 3. Their (new) Duel mode is fucked though.


Need to pick 3 different champions, each of em is a life. 3 Kills is a Round.

Start with 50 Armor and max. Armor is 100.
Max HP is 125.


Game feels awesome though.

>>60112143
> open paint
> pick large brush
> pick white color
> put mouse cursor at identifying element
> rub your mouse
> keep rubbing
> oh yeah
> yeah
> press ctrl+s
> upload image

>>60111203
it feels great and fun
but they made their champions too op compared to standard soldier
you earn enough unlock points to do a 24 hr unlock of the champs but still, the difference is too much
should have been a uniform everyone equal and everyone with all weapons to start with

>>60111203
I tried it.
It really really sucks. xd breaking NDA

Play the new Unreal Tournament instead.

>>60111014
Anyway, this leak is a fake photoshop. This is the same "looks like a photo of a screen" technique fakers always do to hide teh poor photoshopping.
It looks more like a game box than a GPU one. What do you think?

Just watched some recent trailer and it looks like shit. Very slow too. This game will cater neither to hardcore old fans nor to casuals. IT WILL BOMB HARD.

>>60112133
oh hey do you have the cheap pixio too?

>>60112742
or we could play quake live

>>60112084
>I had a 290x and kept it for as long as I could before jumping ship to the 980ti when I got one for cheap and now I'm dumping my 980ti on ebay and getting the 1080ti
The 290X become better than the 980Ti over the past year of driver updates. You're such a money wasting cuck.

>>60112026
> I want 4k 60fps and you won't deliver that
Are you retarded? The 1080Ti only maintains 60fps minimum on a very, very, very small selection of games without greatly dropping settings.

>>60112175
That doesn't say 100fps, it says 100%, you retard.

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>>60112601
yea, getting the standalone one
i do have a steam account, but i prefer not to run it if i don't need to
this seems pretty small for a modern game, not complaining, just surprised

>>60112742
>This is the same "looks like a photo of a screen" technique fakers always do to hide teh poor photoshopping.

This. The angles are all fucked. Pretty shoddy collage work.

Surely there will be more than one Vega card right? There can't be a gap from RX 580 to RX Vega ffs

>>60112229
>every game that isn't a broken console port piece of shit (wildlands, DX:MD, dishonored 2) runs at 60+fps
ahahhahaha no. Even GTAV, a many years old game, doesn't hit 40fps.

I've only seen a small handful of games like Doom and SWBF that hit 60fps minimum at 4K on it.
Enjoy your further cucking.

>>60112793
>The 290X become better than the 980Ti over the past year of driver updates
imagine being this retarded

>>60112822
see>>60112344

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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2871/radeon-rx-vega

>>60112279
>>60112334
>>60112359
61-69fps average isn't minimum, cuck.
It probably drops down to 45 fps 1% of the time.

You're exactly the sort of moron that would waste $750 thinking he's going to get something he won't get.
I bet your CPU is stutterfest, too.

>>60112796
>i do have a steam account, but i prefer not to run it if i don't need to

Same here. Having to log in to Steam with my really long random passwords I have a hard time to remember is just so fucking tedious. I mean on top of that whole Steam being a giant DRM platform thing.

>this seems pretty small for a modern game, not complaining, just surprised

Well I think the huge size of modern games comes from the devs just being lazy as fuck. This is a game made by Diablo 2 fans for Diablo 2 fans. Their whole company was made just to produce this one game, so they put everything they have into polishing it.
It's one of those projects that started off with two nerds coding in a garage and slowly getting bigger from there.

>>60112819
It's called: RX Vega, there will be an entire line-up.

>>60112845
>launched in April 2017
So at 1200MHz it's 27% behind a 1080Ti

The real clock speed is ~1600MHz which is 33% higher.
So really it's 4.7% higher relative performance to the 1080Ti?
Nice.

And with how well GCN scales to higher resolutions, it might end up being 20% better than the 1080Ti at 4K instead.

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>>60112847
>>60112847
>DON'T TRUST THE REVIEWS GOYIM IT'S SHIT TRUST ME

Again, with this chart, lower = better as the faster one frame is rendered, the lower latency will be. Huge spikes above 40 ms to 50 ms can be considered a problem like a stutter or indicate a low framerate. The two huge spikes are mortar explosions, all cards exhibit this in the game. Other then that this is a very clean plot.

>>60112742

There is always a super good nigger in Quake Champions as well. Games are so one sided half the time

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>>60112847
>All cards show minor glitches here so it is game engine rendering related.

>>60112796
>>60112866
Oh also the levels are newly generated from a set of small assets every time you enter them to achieve maximum replayability (excluding boss fights). That's also a factor why it's not that huge.

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>>60112185
The top 6 cards on that are all Nvidia

Wtf AMD, this is embarassing

>>60112912
that isn't very surprising, i mean, pseudo-random dungeons is a rather definitive feature of diablo

PoE runs like ass and basically requires an SSD as a minimum requirement now days. They need to fix their engine instead of piling more assets into the engine that can't handle so many.

>>60112890
>one highly optimized game on an engine I already said would be one of the few it'd do 4K 60fps in.
>1440p

>>60112893
Meh that doesn't bother me any.

>>60112925
One of the reasons why I was so disappointed in Diablo 3. Blizzard got really lazy with that game.

>>60112927
>basically requires an SSD as a minimum requirement
i don't have an SSD, but i do have 20G ram
if it hammers the disk that much, i'll just run it from a ramdisk, it's small enough

>>60112940

I thought the original Diablo 1/2 team were making Diablo 3, they scrapped it, and created a brand new team to make the shit box Diablo 3 we have now

>tfw you will never find Schaeffer's Hammer or Windforce in loot ever again

>>60112927
>PoE runs like ass and basically requires an SSD as a minimum requirement now days. They need to fix their engine instead of piling more assets into the engine that can't handle so many.

It's gotten a lot better since they've reworked the client. It just needs quite a bit of time to fill the cache when you first start it up when loading from a HDD.

>>60112881
>it might end up being 20% better than the 1080Ti at 4K instead.
come on, don't say shit this retarded if you don't want people to call AMD fanboys delusional

I wish Vega does this well but I have no reason to think it will

>>60112322
>>>60112279
>Damn you got my hopes up for a sec

There was a new rise of the triad like 2 years ago made by interceptor entertainment. Pretty fun, kinda shit and wacky.

>>60112875

you sure? For a while there I thought I had to upgrade my power supply

>>60112968
Not that guy, but AMD is better at higher resolution. They always close up the gap / surpass further compared to the same tier Nvidia card.

>>60112955
Play PoE and hope for Shavronne's Wrappings, Mjolner or rare uniques like that.

PoE has even rarer OP uniques than D2.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mj%C3%B6lner
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shavronne%27s_Wrappings

>>60112071
then they are losing a customer for dragging ass.

... im so new to pc hardware and in the short time ive been aware I already feel terrible for the AMD fanboys that spend half their Lives waiting for Budget Hardware.

>>60112996
>AMD is
no such things as X brand is better than Y brand at this

cards like the 290x/Fury stacked up better than the 780ti/980ti at higher resolutions because of higher memory bandwidth

Pascal does not have this bottleneck anymore. There's no reason to believe that HBM2 will give AMD that magic push to perform better when their core architecture simply can't run as fast as Pascal

>>60113021
There was a time when AMD had the fastest CPUs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_XP

I'm still using a Barton core Athlon XP for older games.

>>60112742
>Play the new Unreal Tournament instead.

kekd hard

btw qc will have lots of flaws but im kind of enjoying the beta

>>60112949
I crash taking too long to load hideouts a lot of the time.
I have 16GB of RAM and a WD Black, so it's not like it's a shitty HDD.

>>60112968
An RX580 is within 95% of a 1070 at 1440p and beats it at 4k in many games. So if the relative performance of Vega is 4.7% higher than the 1080Ti according to bias TPU, why would it not beat it by 20% in 4k?
You're just ignorant.
I fully expect it to lose on average at 1080p, but beat it significantly at 4K, if those TPU results are correct and you should too if you weren't so stupid.

>>60112968
AMD already showed the flagship vega on 4k in doom though.

I'm expecting to perform better than that due to drivers.

But it was not 1080ti level, let alone 20%+

>>60113085
>An RX580 is within 95% of a 1070 at 1440p
I really don't believe this, except for in dx12 titles

>and beats it at 4k in many games
in a few I also wouldn't be surprised, but when both are running under 40 fps it doesn't matter. Neither of those cards compete at 4k so it's a literally useless victory for AMD on that front
>>60113105
right, we know Vega is not shit. That much is obvious. There's just no reason to expect it to blow out minds

>>60113085
An RX580 is within 95% of a 1070 at 1440p and beats it at 4k in many games
Yeah...no

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>>60113030
No, it's not entirely down to memory bandwidth or else the RX580 wouldn't beat the 1070 at 4K so often when it has lower memory bandwidth.
Get a brain.

>>60113133
see>>60113116

>>60112989
What kind of power supply do you have?
Anything over 500 is overkill for a single GPU system, provided it's a proper brand.

>>60113030
You're forgetting the fact that AMD's GCN architecture have more cores than Nvidia's architecture, which help on high resolution. The 1080TI has fewer cores than the Fury.
>their core architecture simply can't run as fast as Pascal
This is being addressed with Vega's NCU.

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>>60113080
What problem do you have with the new UT?
Not enough blue haired girls and hats?

>>60113116
And no shit DX12 titles. You expect new games to use an old API? Every major engine in development is DX12 or Vulkan exclusive, like the Total War franchises' new engine.
Look at how many of the AAA games released this year were DX12/Vulkan. Look at how many are getting Vulkan updates.
And games that aren't new have lower requirements so that's irrelevant.

Even if they aren't DX12/Vulkan always, if there is the option then AMD on Vulkan/DX12 always runs comparably better.

It's going to be the same story comparing Vega and 1080Ti.
The 1080Ti will probably win at DX11/OpenGL, older games, at 1080p.
The Vega will probably roughly match or beat it at 4K even in older APIs and destroy it in DX12/Vulkan at 4K.
That's if that TPU db "relative performance" at 1200MHz is accurate, that is.

>>60113194
>Every major engine in development is DX12 or Vulkan exclusive
Every major engine in development supports DX12 or Vulkan*
>Look at how many of the AAA games released this year were DX12/Vulkan
Look at how many of the AAA games released this year featured DX12/Vulkan
>Look at how many are getting Vulkan updates.
1

I honestly hope Vulkan catches on. It really better.

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>>60113166
>What kind of power supply do you have?

be quiet 500w 80+ silver

I'm gonna hop here and ask, any chance Quake Champions will come to Steam? I really hate this bloatware that goes by the name of bethesda.net launcher.

>>60113030
I see you idiots repeating "performance at higher resolution is entirely down to memory bandwidth" when tests prove you wrong repeatedly.

>>60113227
>Look at how many are getting Vulkan updates.
One?
Feral Interactive (Mad Max, XCom, Total War, etc) is updating many of their games from 2015 onward to Vulkan.
They should be announcing more at an event shortly.

>>60113250
Then you should be fine, if Vega wont become a Fermi housefire, which is very unlikely.

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>>60113030
>>60113166
forgot pic related

>Radeon Chill
Yes! I can't wait for more games to implement this. The card stays cool and quite and frame drop isn't noticeable because the tech is properly being utilized.

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>>60113133
>>60113085
>An RX580 is within 95% of a 1070 at 1440p and beats it at 4k in many games
This kills the AMD shill

Which Radeon card should i buy - the 480 4gb or the 8gb. Is there a better AMD card?

>>60113133
>powercolor
oh so I get to use my blower 1070 that ocs to 2000 mhz
thanks bro lmao

>>60113342
>day 1 benchmarks
>Only 2 1440p DX12 games and one of which isn't true DX12.
kill yourself.
I hope you're not actually this stupid, but know what you're doing and how you're trying to manipulate and lie.

>>60113371
Vega

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>>60113402
>those benchmarks don't count!
Every single time

>>60113402
>poojet pop a hemorrhoid

>>60113402
>no true DX12

>>60113410
Explain how they invalidate a new benchmark on a new game without pointing to something from a year ago, tard. >>60113133

Or are you just too stupid and that's all you had?

>>60113455
>xplain how they invalidate a new benchmark on a new game

Easy, you picked an outlier

>>60113465
>>60113454
GoW4 is true DX12.

When you just do DX12 API calls in a DX11 rendering pipeline, that hardly improves performance, you braindead shill.

Why do you think DX12/Vulkan performance drastically improves in some games but not others?
Why do you think Doom runs so well for how well it looks? Why do you think GoW4

Morons. Go back to >>>/v/. You don't have a clue how graphics APIs and rendering pipelines work.
It's really sad when you can have 2 or 3 people all arguing the same thing all to get BTFO by one other person that knows better than their dumb asses.

>>60113484
Sure kid, have fun living in AMD-fantasy land.

Meanwhile, in reality

>>60113342

>>60113484
I wasn't arguing with you. I was making fun of you because posting a single benchmark where an aftermarket RX 580 gets 32 fps and the 1070FE gets 31 fps in a DX12 title is your basis for arguing that Vega could outperform the 1080ti by as much as 20% at 4k, and all the evidence such as
>>60113342
you dismiss because you're a retard

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>>60113495

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>>60113507
Oh look what I found, more benchmarks that do not count!

I geuss we shouldn't look at these at all though and base all our performance of the 580 on one single Gears of war benchmark, that sounds like a good idea!

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>>60113484
in case you were wondering the 580 is still slower than a 290x :^)

>>60113506
>no argument whatsoever, just namecalling
kek

>>60113531
>literally an entire argument from beginning to end concluding that you're a retard
wew lad

>>60113541
Actualy, I thought you were calling the guy who posted those benches a retard, but I see I misread

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>>60113529
>>60113516
>>60113495
>Can't disprove that the RX580 nearly matches or beats the 1070 depending on resolution in a properly optimized, ground up, DX12 only game.
>Resorts back to year old benchmarks

How are these relevant to the subject? Those are different games. Those aren't ground up, DX12 only rendering pipelines that get the most from it.
Simply doing DX12 API calls in a DX11 pipeline doesn't change performance much.
Any programmer can tell you this.
But you know nothing about this and have no one intelligent to ask so you just spam nonsense you don't understand and make yourself look stupid.

>>60113529
The 580 isn't on there though

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>>60113342
>>60113516
It doesn't count REEEEEEE

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>>60113516
Want even him. I rated you a zero because you has no counter argument what so ever. Just autistic whooping and a link back to your previous post.
You'd know that if you bothered to keep an eye on the IP count.
No back to your hastily cobbled together shit flinging.
I got real arguments elsewhere.

>>60113558
exactly, but the 290x is
and the 580 is slower than a 290x

>>60113557
Show a benchmark where a rx 580 comes close to a 1070 except for doom vulkan in 4k

>>60113568
>I got real arguments elsewhere.
yeah go back to /r/amd

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>>60113567
Kekking so hard right here

>>60113557
>Those are different games. Those aren't ground up, DX12 only rendering pipelines that get the most from it
and the only games that will ever, ever be made like this are microsoft exclusive titles

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>>60113579
You mong.

>>60113506
You do realize these other benchmarks the dumb shills posted
also showed how the RX580 was catching up to the 1070 at higher resolutions in most games?
The performance delta is clearly much closer at 1440p than 1080p on average despite the 1070 having more memory bandwidth which BTFOs that idiot that says performance scaling along resolution is entirely down to memory bandwidth.

They proved my point without understanding they were doing so, because that's how stupid they are.

>>60113585
Nope. Some games are going Vulkan only like Star Citizen.

>>60113574
Read up higher, dumb fuck. In GoW4, a DX12 only game.

>>60113622
Read
>>60113342

I have a RX480 and it runs Quake Champions (beta) just fine. goes up to 90 degrees though.

Not sure why they are using it to market vega

>>60113644
because they get dollar dollar and it runs well on AMD

>>60113644
SOMEONE CALL THE FIREFIGHTERS

>>60113635
read >>60113557 >>60113608

Don't tell others to read when you can't read, dumb fuck.

>>60113622
So if we understand you correctly one should only purchase a 580 if they plan on playing GoW4 exclusively

>>60113608
>looks at absolute performance delta instead of relative

Lol, idiot

>>60113680
Read
>>60113342

>>60113681
No, you fucktard. It's a point that Vega is going to run better on actual new games like that. Games that are ground DX12 or Vulkan only which almost all these new games and engines are.

Stop being an ignorant cuck and go follow some GDC or some shit. Or if you must stay ignorant, shut the fuck up and stop trying to mislead others with your ignorance.

>>60113608
Your claim was that the 580 is within 95% of the 1070 in many games, and beating it in many others.

So far you've been able to reproduce one benchmark that confirms this, while others have produced a multitude of that showing it's wrong.

I think it's safe to conclude you posted an outlier, keep basing all your hopes on one benchmark though

>>60113703
Read >>60113680

>>60113674
>>60113658
Well I think the problem is I'm getting 230FPS, and I can't limit it.

If I could drop it down to 60 it would probably much less heat on my card

>>60113720
Read
>>60113703

>>60113710
>it doesn't count my 200$ gpu is as good as your 400$ gpu reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>>60113710
>JUST WAIT

You guys remember when Ashes of the Singularity and Hitman were taunted as 'real dx12' games by AMD-fanboys?

I guess now that the results don't suit them anymore suddenly only GOW4 is a 'true dx12' game

>>60113764
I never said that.

>>60113767
I don't care if you did or did not, I wasn't talking about one person specifically

>>60113710
Don't mind the cucks. Let them hold on to their soon-to-be-780tis, I mean 1080tis.

>>60113783
>le 780ti gimp meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E

Yeah...no

>>60113792
>implying I mentioned gimp
They're just shit.

>>60113801
Well yeah, they're old as fuck

>>60113792
No one said anything about gimping. It's just keklers are in the trashcan when even fucking Tahiti is kicking ass when OCed. And i'm not even talking about Hawaii. That thing is unkillable.

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>>60113710

>which almost all these new games and engines are
>Stop being an ignorant cuck and go follow some GDC

how ironic considering majority of game developers don't even want to touch dx12.

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>>60113767
>>60113680
>>60113622
>>60113557
look at how far apart the 480 and 1070 are

then keep reading up, and remember that Vega will not be at the to spot when it releases

>>60113815
Are we really moving the goalpost to talking about 3 generations old Nvidia cards?

How about we talk about the current portfolio of AMD high end cards.

Oh wait they don't exist

>>60113792
>780Ti's weren't gimped! They were never supposed to keep pace with and even beat the 980Ti in never games like the 290X did!!!!
>w-we just paid $700 for them and then had to dumpster them after just a few years because um.. drivers!
You will always lose this argument. Why do you even try? You just embarrass yourself. Just shut up and admit you got cucked.

>>60113824
No one said anything about a 480.

>>60113852
I just showed you evidence they weren't gimped

What is your evidence to back up your meme?

Come on show it

>>60113852
>the 580 isn't a 480!
and here we go further down the rabbit hole

>>60113818
All you can do is cherry pick.
4chan really needs a block function.

>>60113859
No one said anything about gimped. They're "just" shit and don't keep up in modern games like their cheaper competitor at the time.

>>60113861 see >>60113133

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>>60113862
>They're "just" shit and don't keep up in modern games like their cheaper competitor at the time.
Lol, are you talking about the 290x?

You call this keeping up?

Keep in mind I'm even comparing it a fucking midrange card lol

>>60113862
>All you can do is cherry pick.
>even though my argument is a single benchmark where the 580 beats a 1070 at 4k, even though it loses in every other benchmark in every single game including my one cherry picked benchmark
>>60113872
see>>60113385

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>>60113862
>No one said anything about gimped. They're "just" shit and don't keep up in modern games like their cheaper competitor at the time.

Really? where did you get that ide?

>>60112133
You can hardly hit 144hz. I'm on 1080 SLI, while fully capable, usually network code and server limitations throw you back to around 100-120hz.

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>>60113895
Are you seriously trying to infer that the 580 on that list is heavily overclocked?

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>>60113888
>>60113904
>old drivers
You really need to stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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>all the rebrandeon 480/580 shills itt

>>60113965
The only one embarassing yourself is you

All you have to back up your memes is one fucking benchmark, lol.

How do you take yourself seriously kek

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>>60113959
are you seriously trying to infer that it is not?

>>60113971
How will you react to pooscal refresh?

>>60113965
>i-it's the drivers
also
>gpu thread
>intel meme
amdrones are really insecure constipated poojets

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>>60113965

>>60113982
That benchmark doesn't count, reeeeeeeeeeee!

>>60113989
Where is vega?

>>60114007
Computex.

>>60114021
Com-poo-tex

>>60114007
wait for it ;^)

>>60113978
>All you have to back up your memes is one fucking benchmark, lol
hahaha look at the own fucking benchmarks from Guru3d that you're posting >>60113994
>390X 60FPS
>780Ti 43fps (only 8 higher than a 1050Ti lmao)
Dumb fucks keep proving me right with your own shit you stupidly spam. How stupid can you be?
I don't need to post any sources since you undo yourselves for me.

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>>60113982
In >>60113133 's sheet the 580 is perfectly inline to where it should be on that graph. Note frames of the 1060 listed.
If anything you'd have a much better time trying to convince us that the 1070 and 1080 are actually underclocked.

>>60114033
So now you shift to the 390x?

Keep shifting the goalpost

>>60114026
Poo-scal. Poo-laris. Poo-hiti. Pooxwell.

>>60114021
So you need to wait (tm) vega?

>>60114048
390x and 290x are literally the same thing. lmao.
290x isn't on that list. Nice fucking strawman.

Again, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>60114033
you don't get to pick which argument you're involved in based on which one youre winning

that benchmark shows the 1070 beating the 580 by a factor of 20fps at 1440p, a game which you claimed it came "within 95%" of and claimed that it beat it at 4k

you're wrong on both of those accounts. now admit it

>>60114065
>my memes are fact
sure kid

>>60114062
And then you wait™ for Volta. And then you wait™ for Navi. It never ends.

Daily remder, the RX 580 is a OC RX 480...

>>60114092
Nobody but delusional fanboys need to be reminded about that

>>60114088
Who's waiting? I guess I'm waiting one more day for my 1080ti to arrive in the mail, after which point I'll have the most powerful gaming GPU on the planet

>>60114076
AMD assblasted the fuck out

Kek

>>60114100
>the most powerful gaming GPU on the planet*
*Until Radeon RX Vega™.

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>thread about vega
>nvidia fanboys start instantly shitting the streets about muh 1070>RX480

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>>60114033

>>60114088
Nobody wait Volta. The 1080ti/Titan X is not even a full GP102.

>>60114123
Actualy this was the post that started it
>>60113085
Does that look like an nvidia poster to you?

>>60114076
>amdrones admiting to be wrong
kek
They just go back to /r/amd to lick their bleeding hemorhhoids.

>>60114129
GP100 is a meme anyway.

>>60114122
I'm tempted to screencap this so I can shitpost with it in a month but I'm a better person than that

CAP THIS

1070 > vega 20 > 1080 > vega 10 > 1080ti > ...

Vega is fury 2.0

>>60114182
>Vega is fury 2.0
Why?

>>60114163
I konw but the only the titan Xp is a full GP102

>>60114182
swap those implications around champ

they are not arrows, in measuring quality they mean greater than or less than

4 < 5
10 > 8

1080ti > Vega 10 > 1080 > Vega 20 > 1070

>>60114193
What is Quadro P6000?

>>60114189
Wait the drivers, AIO system, overhyped, hbmeme

>>60114220
This has nothing to do with Vega. And HBM is future anyways. Just like GDDR3/5 back then.

>>60114123

Well, Vega isn't out yet and the current best of the best AMD can offer *does* lose to the slightly-above-mainstream 1070.

>>60114205
Titan XP pascal =/= Titan Xp. The new Titan Xp is a P6000

>>60114234
https://videocardz.com/68948/skhynix-gddr6-for-high-end-graphics-card-in-early-2018

>NVIDIA Volta with GDDR6 in early 2018

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>>60114234
>HBM is future anyways

*blocks your path*

>>60114266
Yes and? GDDR is on it's deathbed. I'd like to see how EMIB performs with HBM stacks.

>>60114234
HBM is faster but also a heck of a lot more expensive to manufacture than regular GDDR

>>60114278
>up to 768 GB/s for gen1
>draw less power than GDDR5x

>>60114290
For now. GDDR5 was not cheap when ATi/AMD and Hynix introduced it back then.

>>60114278
>GDDR is on it's deathbed.
just like how rambus was going to kill ddr

>>60114304
Right, but that doesn't automatically mean HBM will end up cheaper or just as cheap as GDDR

>>60114319
HBM2? Nah. HBM3? Maybe.

>>60114301
>draw less power than GDDR5x
Still more than HBMeme.

>>60111075
gaymurs still play quake? i though cod was all the rage

>>60114334
Really, why?

>>60114357
More capacity and bandwith per stacks = less stacks = less complex interposer.

>>60112278
i got on the closed beta and my firsy thought is that the players now days suck ass so bad

>>60114377
It will go down in cost sure, but cheaper than GDDR? I don't know

>>60114312
the thing is even if something bwtter comes along noone is going to adopt it because it might flop and all computer parts are set to mould

GDDR5 and HMB2 are both cheaper than DDR4 right now. lmfao.

>>60114487
bulk sale to manufacturer not end user

>>60112350
>>60112371
I am so excited for this summers updates.

>>60113002
Headhunters Belt masterrace

We already have Vega benches. Google for radeon 687F:C1.

It's between the 1080 and 1070 with beta drivers and january silicon. Assuming they ironed out bugs, fixed the drivers, and shot up the clockrate (as they usually do), it should be on par with the 1080, maybe a tad bit better in DX12 games.

Nvidia will just drop prices to counter it.

It'll be a full repeat of the Fury release a while back.

>>60112518
Yeah, shame really. If nothing else, I wanted the names of the cards from those currytech slides to be real. I mean what kind of gaybo would you have to be to not want a card called the RAGE X. It just sounds good, not to mention it's a call back to the ATi Rage

>>60114346
>15w vs 11w

>>60114564
Doesn't change the fact that AMD and Nvidia are getting VRAM cheaper than Corsair and G.Skill and shit are getting DDR4.

>>60114729
Those were benches at 1000/1200MHz. It'll be 1580-1650MHz, most likely.

>>60114729
>We already have Vega benches.
They arent worth shit.
Considering shit was running on Fiji drivers and god knows what the real clocks are going to be you know nothing.

What's a good price for a 1070 at the moment? I feel like that card would hit the sweet spot for me but I don't want to spend too much to get one.

>>60114729
>We already have Vega benches.
As valid as woodscrews. It was also using duct taped Fiji drivers to simply work.

>>60114987
$350 maximum

>>60114987
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814500408

339-379 shekels

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>>60114729
>The product with ID 687F:C1 scores an average framerate of 88 FPS. In comparison, with the same settings a GeForce GTX 1080 would be in the 70~75 FPS range with the factory overclocked parts in that same 80~85 FPS region

>it's inbetween a 1070 and 1080
"no"

>>60111203
If you're a CPMA guy, just stick to Reflex. QC is very meh.

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>>60114348
NuQuake is basically Overwatch

>>60115068
Yet you played it enough to get to rever 13 asus027

>>60115087
you ain't very bright, are you

>>60115021
>>60115036
I see. What are the best brands for the 1070? I heard the MSI was the best but not sure how true is this.

>>60115048
lol. 25% faster at 1200MHz?
Though we don't know if the clocks changed there.

>>60115128
$300. $325 is still too much given the extra $40-$400 cost of Gsync which you should be adding to the cost of the GPU.

>>60115196
I don't care about Gsync?

>>60115209
Then why the fuck are you talking about getting a 1070?

An RX570 4GB is all you need for 1080p at 60-75hz. Do you understand how refresh rates work at all? It doesn't matter if your FPS counter says "100fps" when your monitor is 60hz.
God I can't believe how Nvidia makes so much money off people like you like that who have no clue what they're buying.

>>60115321
>An RX570 4GB is all you need for 1080p at 60-75hz

You people are utterly delusional, holy fucking shit. Even the 480/580 cannot mantain 60 fps at ultra settings in this resolution and yet you're recomending a worse card for an even higher refresh rate.

You amd drones are the most delluded people on earth, jesus christ. Borderline stockholm syndrome tier.

>>60115411
>y-yes goy enable gameworks and x64 tesselation

>>60115068
yeah, the arenas and guns feel like shit. its still got that fluidity to it but its not the same.

>>60115411
>Even the 480/580 cannot mantain 60 fps at ultra settings in this resolution
yes they can

meme games with horribly broken performance do not count
Ubishit, Dishonored 2, etc literally do not count as PC games because of how bad their performance is

>>60115321
>poverty/10
This board is so fucking poor.

>>60115411
>ULTRA SETTINGS
>THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED
>EVEN IF IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME AS HIGH/VERY-HIGH
>IT'S THE WAY

It'll play 99.9% games maxed. A small handful need some settings turned down to "very high", yes, but in most cases it hardly changes how the game looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-SmvMykfR4
There's like 5 fucking games you'll have to turn down to "high", maybe "medium" on a few settings, like Dishonored 2 and GR Wildlands. 5 games out of 10,000+.
Spending $100 more on a GPU and $50 more on a monitor just to play those 5 extra games on "max" instead of "high" at 60+ is stupid.

>utterly delusional

>>60115573
I have 40grand sitting here. Waiting on Vega.
Being smart enough to understand value =/= poor.

Maybe this is why I have more money than you; my better money management.

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>>60115467
>games that don't fit my narrative don't count

Yeah, fuck all these meme games, I don't get why everyone doesn't just play AotS like a good Pajeet.

>>60115607
40 grand rupees aren't real money poojeet

>>60115627
>AotS
it's one of the meme games

and I'm completely serious. Games like those published by Ubisoft and with broken performance like Assassins Creed Unity and outliers like Dishonored 2 are not worth playing with their performance and thus really don't exist

if you pay attention to properly published games like DICE games, DOOM, Gears of War 4, Titanfall 2, with proper performance on all platforms at all specs, then you see what value cards really have.

You may have also noticed that the games made by developers so incompetent that they cannot produce a decently performing PC game are also really shit games that few people should be playing anyway

>>60115655
haha you got me I'm so insulted let me dry my tears with all this money

>>60115669
Dishonored 2 is a good game. It just runs bad. It's fine if you just drop some settings.
But yeah, GoW4, Doom, Titanfall2, and stuff like that are much more reasonable as performance benchmarks.

Tomb Raider not only bad, but is also inconsistent, so I'm not sure why it's used as benchmarks so much. You can get over 15% different results run-to-run on it with the same hardware.

>>60115607
>Maybe this is why I have more money than you
I make more money than you have in your savings account in dividends just from my APPL stock you poor faggot.

I bet you dont even own any GOOGL either.

>>60115321
>>60115595
Fucking AMDrones I swear.

MAYBE WE NEED MOAR W A I T?