What is the best smart bulb?
botnet
I too enjoy microphones connecting to the IoT to record my fapping. Good day, friend!
>>60106692
Smart bulbs are dumb, smart light switches and power plugs are where it's at.
>>60106692
>falling for the botbulb meme
>>60106692
Hue. Every chink knock off I ever tried has died at lightning speed while the Hue works to this day.
most if not all smart bulbs use PWM(on and off at different length and interval) to simulate dimming, the effect is similar to old crt monitor flickering or incandescent bulb flickering.
If you hold your phone camera up to the bulb you can see the flicker very easily. I dont recommend smart bulbs because its even worse than incandescent tube flickering which a lot of ppl have problems with. This includes Philip hue, illumi, lifx gen 2/3, GE smart bulbs, basically all of them
>>60108349
I've never seen this problem on my hue bulbs
I like being able to go between warm white and cool white depending on the situation and how I feel.
>>60108385
why dont you put your phone camera up to it and test
>>60108401
because I am not at home. I will when I get a chance, but I've never noticed it after nearly 2.5 years of owning them.
>>60108405
it affects some people, not all. but overall the effect is unnatural. Natural light does not continuously turn on and off, and pets can probably detect the flickering
>>60108405
>>60108458
"cats and dogs need a higher frame rate than humans to make it appear as a smooth film, a phenomenon known as flicker fusion, in humans we require 15-20 frames per second, dogs require 70fps and cats about 100." from stackoverflow
>>60108492
i think the hue line is probably less than 100hz which means its fucking with cats and dogs everywhere and sensitive people
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/support/support/faqs/dimming-with-leds/disadvantages-of-pwm
>>60108349
just tested on all 17 of my bulbs. No issue with Hue Gen 3. Willing to post pics/vids for proof.
>>60108349
Don't have a problem myself or pets. But had heard of it, oh well ill keep my bulb.
>>60108570
from philips official account
>>60108583
i can see very clearly the vertical lines going across the gif
>>60108646
ps I'm not the guy with the 17 bulbs saying there is no issue.
>>60108583
>>60108646
the pwm lines are very visible
>>60108349
>Staring at your light bulbs
Nigga get a lampshade if you're so sensitive baka
>>60108664
See >>60108662
Don't have a problem in that I'm not sensitive to it.
>>60108665
that makes no sense
>>60108682
thats good, but even philips own product page says its bad for you
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/support/support/faqs/dimming-with-leds/disadvantages-of-pwm
>>60106692
Not the ones that are only semi-spherical.
>>60108349
afaik most modern dimmer switches use pwm, smart or otherwise
>>60108692
None of those tech problems are dealbreakers to me.
Give me some research stating I'll snap after n time with them on and murder my family or something, then I might sell them off to recover some of the investment.
imo led bulbs should be dirt cheap, like $1 per bulb. this is just another marketing gimmick to sell you low cost tech for extreme profits and even with some drm thrown in
>>60108756
its just unnatural and pets can probably perceive it. PWM is just a money saving technique to simulate dimming, real dimming is done by voltage control
>>60106692
>$100 bulb
>hardly bright enough for anything
Literally botnet. As is: connected to the internet, virtually no security and used for distributed attacks. Stop making iot happen.
>smart bulb
>>60108902
>They are attacking my light switch
Ohhh no!
>>60108902
that's always a worry, mostly due to fly by night companies releasing an iot device and then never updating it, we already saw what damage can happen from that botnet.
>>60108830
>real dimming is done by voltage control
Which would kill any lightbulb that does this within the day.
will pwm make me blind or gay?
>>60109312
Yes.
>>60106692
i want a smart handkerchief, that will wipe my cum, after I finish fapping, and then will wash itself. I'd pay for that.
>>60108349
This isn't a problem with dimmer switches on standard LEDs, right?
>>60109047
You moron. That isn't the problem.
Because it is connected to the Internet with shitty security people infect them with malware and turn them into bots to use for attacks.
Fucking moron.
>>60106692
The 6$ chinese ones from ebay that are controlled with ir. If you have a half decent phone you can use that to control them.
>>60108349
pwm itself is not a problem, since leds can be pwm'd at several kHz without any issues. I don't get why they often get pwm'd at much lower frequencies.
>>60109383
genius.
absolutely incredible.
sum1 pls do it.
inb4
>god already did it when he created womunn
>>60109582
link for uk anon pls
>>60106692
None, just buy a normal led globe like everyone else, unless you love the botnet in your home.
>>60110494
they're trying to cause seizures and/or induce vertigo.
>Get Hue hub and a white temperature changing bulb
>Works, even with google assistant to turn on/off with voice
>Until anything happens with the router like a restart or upgrade
>"I'm sorry, hue lamp 01 isn't available right now"
>Can still switch it on with the Hue app
Sorta annoying and you can't change temperature with voice, yet, only colors.
Also:
>Find some nice bright LED panels from IKEA
>They have their own automated home system but it's compatible with Zygbee standards
>So is Hue
>Look if anyone has experience with using IKEA with Hue
>"It worked with the old firmware but the new one seems to have fucked it up"
>People message philips about this
>They get two replies, both stating "Hue and IKEA isn't compatible due to strange behaviour in IKEA zigbee systems, it works in unexpected ways with Hue"
>No replies towards "It worked before though?"
Not sure if it's "fixed" but a few months ago they couldn't work together.
>>60107323
This man fucks
>RGB lightbulb
>>60109413
just smart bulbs that have PWM dimming built in.
philips has a genius product called Scene Switch bulbs that gives you 3 different temps or lumens settings by turning on a few or all LEDs in the array. cheap and effective
>>60110494
yeah i dont know why its not at kHZ. The only issues that may arise is more heat shortening the led lifespan, but does high frequency pwm generates more heat??
>smart bulb
This "internet of things" thing needs to stop.
>>60110663
they are working on an update to work apparently. seems slow to happen tho, but youd need a base to update the IKEA lights anyway so eh.
>>60108385
this is amazing. I have the hue white balance thing and it's seriously a life changer.
>>60108458
>>60108492
>>60108533
That is fascinating, thanks for the info. I never considered my lights might be bad for my poor doggo.
So, what alternatives exist for dimming LEDs?
>>60108902
>Connected to the internet
That is why we have firewalls m8
>>60106692
Why
Why the fuck would you buy a smart bulb
RGB LIGHTING FOR MY HOUSE AND COMPUTER
WILL HOOK UP TO HUE HUE HUE PLUS
If I want to get only one and don't want any hub crap, which should I buy?
>>60106692
Even the lights are fucking botnet now
We should have listened to Stallman
>>60113449
Because it's nice to have automatic lights you can fiddle with and customize however you want.
>>60113505
LIFX has bulbs which don't need a hub but they cost much more individually than others.
>>60111847
yes.
also more EMI
>>60110494
I was thinking that PWM at high frequencies could use excessive amounts of power which is why laptops use such low frequencies but that argument doesn't really apply to something plugged into the wall all the time.
>>60106692
>get free bulbs from hive
>now I can't turn the lights on without my phone
Not really enhanced my life desu
>>60107147
Nigga how
>>60113606
>>now I can't turn the lights on without my phone
and a router
>>60110553
>god already did it when he created womunn
fucking kek