MBP Built to last edition

>>60071740
I got the same one but the Touchpad is broken and so is the battery

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My T60p is now 10 years old (pic related, a mid 2007 T60p). It's still running as well as the day i bought it. Due to:

Rugged build
Designed to be comfortable instead of being throwaway consumer shit like macbooks
Excellent screen
High quality components
Compatibility with any OS

2017. Why are you not using a T60p yet /g/

>>60071771
The touchpad can sometimes go if it comes into contact with too much seaman. it's user replaceable though.

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>>60071740
>not using a sandy bridge thinkpad instead
ayyyyyyyyyy

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>>60071825
>not using fully blown 12,5" elitebook instead

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>>60071793
You realise that thing is made out of cheap plastic right? Frankly, It's a miracle it's still working. You must just use it for browsing cartoon porn one assumes.

It also looks fucking ugly, unlike the MBP, which is, of course, aesthetically pleasing pleasing

>>60071843
I don't like the flat chicklet keyboard and shit screen, otherwise great machines

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>>60071740
My MBPr is now 5 years old. It's still running as well as the day I bought it. Due to:
Superior build quality.
Continued free OS updates.

Get bent fuc bois.

>>60071873
Good to here anon. I hope you get another 5 years happy service. feels good right?

>>60071861
You realize plastic on the outside is more ergonomic than fucking aluminium, right?
It also has an internal magnesium frame which is actually strong and not bending like one of the softest and cheapest metals (aluminium)

>It also looks fucking ugly
If you buy a computer based n looks you are literally retarded

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>>60071740
I have a 2011 MBP. It's a piece of shit. Every single thing you said is false.

>Rugged build
Weak soda can shit. My Mac wobbles when set on flat surfaces because it fucking bent. I'm not talking about the lid, or just a corner. No, the whole fucking lower housing is BENT.
>Fully integrated ecosystem
Why would anyone use cloud services? Are you too poor to buy a larger hard drive or buy flash drives? Have you never heard of KDE connect?
>Excellent screen
It's shit. Glossy screens suck balls.
>High quality components
Is that why my laptop is bent? Is that why the hinge is loose and why the plastic in the hinge cracked and why I had to glue it back together?
>POSIX Compliance Unix OS
Despite being certified, the OS is not Posix compliant. You'd know if you did anything more than browse fagbook and twatter with your craptop.

>>60071893
>only lasts 10 years
lel

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>>60071740
>1680x1050 or 1280x800 screen
>core 2 duo
>"high quality components" that are designed o fail with use
>"Rugged build" aka weak aluminium

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Not like this

>>60071907
Most of your moaning smacks of user error. You suggest your macbook pro is BENT. This means that, guess what, YOU BENT it. You shouldnt bend any type of computers. computers are NOT designed to be BENT.

Also, OSX is fully POSIX compliant. I work with UNIX for a living.

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>>60071740
But I am, familia!

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>>60071740
>2017. Why are you not using a MBP yet /g
Because I'm not a faggot.

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>>60071994
This post reeks of paid shilling. Reminds of the time that the iPhone 4 had a problem with the antenna band and Apple told customers that they were "holding it wrong".

I take very good care of all of my machines and this Mac is no exception.

>OSX is fully POSIX compliant
Read these:
http://www.weirdnet.nl/apple/rename.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1036412
Still applies today.

>>60072073
I don't think you actually understand what POSIX is. it isn't some "Linux thing" you know.

OS X is a fully POSIX compliant operating system (as opposed to Linux, which is not fully compliant).

It is officially branded as Unix.

End of conversation about this.

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>>60072198
>I don't think you actually understand what POSIX is. it isn't some "Linux thing" you know.
No, YOU do not understand what Posix is. Read the fucking article, cunt.
>OS X is a fully POSIX compliant operating system (as opposed to Linux, which is not fully compliant).
Posix compliance is a meme anyways. Nonethless, OS X is not fully Posix compliant.
>It is officially branded as Unix.
I can brand myself as a cat, crawl on all fours, and meow. That doesn't make me a cat.
>End of conversation about this.
FYAD. You are entitled to nothing.

>>60071740
Have the same model
Upgraded to 8gb of ram and swapped hd for an SSD couple years ago, still feels new

I won't buy a new one knowing that everything is glued down though

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>>60071740
Because I can get a Thinkpad for cheap and if it does break I can fix it way easier then a fagbook pro

>>60072278
Nice one mates. SSD in the MBP FTW!

>macbook pro breaks down
>have to replace whole """logic""" board

>>60072250
LOL. Do you even know what POSIX is? Most of you Windows users wouldn't know what a proper POSIX OS is if it slapped you on the arse with a banjo.

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>>60072359
Your broken English gives away your true identity.

>>60072402
Yes, I do. OS X is not fully Posix compliant. Also, I don't use Windows. I use OS X and Debian.

http://www.weirdnet.nl/apple/rename.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1036412

>>60072418
I am proud of my heritage mates.

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bought my 2014 15" mbp with a GT750 for $700 off craigslist

great computer, everything being in the same environment (got an iPhone before getting my mbp, then got an apple watch and airpods) is amazing, integration no other environment can provide.

>>60072450
You should poo in the loo.

>>60072452
Nice one mates. Very glad to be hearing you loving the mighty MBP. :)

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>>60072449
Why on earth are you using Debian? You should be using the RHEL. I take it you arn't a professional user?

>>60072470
Is this your first day working as a paid shill or something? Your English is horrible, as are your weak attempts to promote the brand.

>>60072501
>RHEL
I'm not going to use a distro used by the NSA.
>I take it you arn't a professional user?
Not an argument. Debian runs Sublime Text and GCC.

>>60072552
Mates listen. I am not being the paid shill please.
Debian is NOT POSIX compliant, nor is your windows laptop. I would very much suggest you to start using OSX or RHEL in order to gain compliance.

my 2012 mba still runs like its brand new.
might get a mbp this summer.

>>60072607
>Mates listen.
That's plural. Who is the third person you're talking to?
>Debian is NOT POSIX compliant
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-compat.en.html
>nor is your windows laptop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
>I would very much suggest you to start using OSX or RHEL in order to gain compliance.
Sorry, I don't use software that spies on me.

>>60072607
what are the advantages of POSIX compliance?

>>60072709
It's a set of standards that when followed make your program easier to port to other operating systems. It hasn't really mattered for over a decade and is now thrown around as a buzzword by dumb macfags like OP who don't know what it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX

>>60071740
I have one of these collecting dust because of a busted battery and only 4G of RAM being inadequate.

But I still feel like I got ripped off. I bought the thing fully expecting for it to become my primary machine, but 7 years later all i ever used it for was bedtime surfing and content consumption, while getting shit done on my Windows desktop machine. Plus the magsafe adapter ripped itself apart every year like clockwork.

Six months ago I bought an iPad to replace it and I haven't powered on the MBP since.

>>60071740
bs

>>60071907
>Is a Neanderthal who can't take care of shit
>Fucks up laptop
>Blames brand
>Invents lies and repeats them until he believes them so he doesn't have to come to terms with being the one at fault

If I were you I would just buy cheap shit so that it's easier to replace when you inevitably fuck it up

>>60072663
>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-compat.en.html
So your rebuttal....proves him correct? Nice work.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
That shit was deprecated years ago and was just a shitty nearly-unusable shim to win contracts that mandated POSIX compliance.

>>60072918
This is not a one off case. This type of shit is happening to lots of people. Apple shit is known for bending because they use the cheapest fucking aluminum.

Remember when Apple told iPhone 4 users that they weren't getting reception because they were holding it wrong? I remember.

>>60071740
Mid 2013 here, still works great but I need to replace battery that lasted much longer than any battery on any notebook I've ever had.
>>60071907
How retarded you have to bee to bend your mac?

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>>60072987
>Linux is intended to adhere to POSIX.1, but the POSIX standards cost real money and the POSIX.1 (and FIPS 151-2) certification is quite expensive
So we're no longer talking about Posix compliance, but rather certification now? Nice goal post shifting.
>That shit was deprecated years ago
Ubuntu subsystem. I'm not even here to argue for Windows anyways, since it's shit for other reasons.

>>60073017
>How retarded you have to bee to bend your mac?
Apparently retarded enough to use it normally and expect it not to bend.

>>60072992
I owned an iphone 4, and I never had a problem with it. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple was using cheap as possible materials, all companies do because their goal is to make a profit. I have still managed to never bend an electronic device, Apple or otherwise, despite carting them around in my pocket/backpack daily.

Doesn't matter the brand, price, or quality; start taking care of your shit and respecting yourself a little more.

>>60072992
>is happening
>known for bending
>cites unrelated antenna issue

So these unibody Macbook Pro's just bend on their own then? What explains this phenomenon? Humidity? Do they just shrivel up like a tomato left out in the sun?

>>60073078
http://www.mac-forums.com/apple-notebooks/251476-macbook-pro-chassis-bent.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-bending-slightly-wobbly-on-desk.1874635/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2192029?tstart=0

I'm not the only one with this problem. It's quite common.

>>60073102
>known for bending
>cites unrelated antenna issue
I cited the antenna issue because it's just one of many examples of Apple putting out a shit product, then blaming users for defects. That's the kind of company Apple is, and the users just bend over and take it. Now, should we discuss the bending iPhone 6 which was such as widespread problem that Apple actually admitted to it? Or will you gloss that over too?

>>60073161
Yeah lots of companies release shit products on occasion and most certainly have plenty of PR blunders under their belt. The twist is that Apple has rectified all of these issues (except for, of course, your imaginary MBP-self-bending problem) whereas every other company just sweeps these issues under the rug or flat out ignores their customers and doesn't acknowledge at all.

Apple products are incredibly popular and their major product lines aren't stupidly fragmented. Even the iPad with it's numerous iterations still have huge user bases. When one of them has an issue, there's 100k that have the same issue, and Apple addresses it because of the public scrutiny, and are typically generous due to their superior customer service. Other OEMs are able to get away with shipping products with out of date or completely broken drivers and hardware and get away with it without any public scrutiny because their products are so fragmented they know there isn't going to be a petition to repair the ethernet port on the Dell E7540 because only a handful of people even bought the piece of shit to begin with. Take, for example, the 2011 era Macbook Pros that have defective GPUs. Apple was repairing those things for free up until the end of 2016, or 4 years after the purchase date, no questions asked. Other OEMs honor the 1 year warranty if you're lucky. Thats it.

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>>60073269
>Yeah lots of companies release shit products on occasion
Except Apple releases shit consistently.

>Apple has rectified all of these issues
Sort of like how they removed the time remaining indicator on the 2016 MBPs when people complained of shitty battery life?

>except for, of course, your imaginary MBP-self-bending problem
Things are not imaginary just because you don't like them.

http://www.mac-forums.com/apple-notebooks/251476-macbook-pro-chassis-bent.html
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-bending-slightly-wobbly-on-desk.1874635/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2192029?tstart=0

>flat out ignores their customers and doesn't acknowledge at all
Apple does this all the fucking time.

>Apple products are incredibly popular and their major product lines aren't stupidly fragmented

>buy latest macbook
>buy latest iphone
>can't plug the phone into the macbook because it ships with a usb a to lightning cable
>"not fragmented"

Post some more so I can keep roasting you.

>>60071861
Did you ever try pissing on your keyboard or jumping on your notebook? Because after those tortures the Thinkpad still works eventhough it's "cheap plastic"

>>60073161
Work on your reading comprehension.

>>60073372
>Except Apple releases shit consistently.
Wrong.

>Sort of like how they removed the time remaining indicator on the 2016 MBPs when people complained of shitty battery life?
That was a dumb one.

>Things are not imaginary just because you don't like them.
In total I see about 5-6 reported cases of this. Try finding something that's recall level and we'll see.

>Apple does this all the fucking time.
OK.

>can't plug the phone into the macbook because it ships with a usb a to lightning cable
Buy a $20 cable. Or you can't because you're poor? Do dongles and adapters trigger your $72.87 account balance?

Here's just one example we can use as a homework assignment for you. Look up the trackpad problems with the Precision M3800 or the last-gen XPS15 and see what Dell's response is to this widespread problem. There isn't one. These unanswered issues are far more common with PC OEMs than Apple. Other OEM customer service is inferior. It's proven.

You're just triggered because you're poor.

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>>60073473
Get some self awareness.

>>60073482
So the best you can do now is call people poor because they don't want to drag around a purse full of dongles like you? I see. I've disproven all of your mactoddler bullshit. None of this shit gets recalled because Apple will not admit that there's a problem. We've been over this, yet you continually move the goal post because it's the best you can do. You know I'm right, you retard.

>>60073482
Because those are mostly user issues when it comes to Dells, people too stupid to change a few settings, even though Windows 10 is easier than ever to use.

There's a reason why the XPS 13 and 15 all get amazing reviews, because they're actually really good computers. The number of complaints are way lower than Apple, the minority is always going to be vocal for when it comes to Dell issues but going through the numbers, the issues for Apple products are actually the majority.

>>60073543
I don't carry around a purse full of dongles, I have a 2011 Macbook Pro that was generously repaired with a brand new logic board by Apple late last year, completely out of warranty. A mistake they made, and rectified. They also put in a brand new battery as a courtesy. It will easily last me another 2-3 years, and is still worth about 40% of it's original sticker price. I've upgraded it to 16GB of RAM with a 500GB SSD and replaced the optical drive with a 1TB HDD, all myself, and they still repaired it for free out of warranty, just by walking into their shitty retail store. None of those things or situations apply to any other computer manufacturer and if you can show me Lenovo, HP, Dell or any other OEM offering any other similar repair extension program then you'll be right. But you can't, so you're wrong.

>>60073571
1. Those trackpad issues were physical, they flexed under the slightest amount of pressure and registered clicks incorrectly. Driver updates did not fix it. Dell does not have a fix, they will replace the trackpad only if the machine is under warranty but the issue does not go away. It's a design flaw, a defect, that they do not and will not rectify.
2. New XPS13 and 15 are good computers, agreed.
3. You need numbers to back up those claims.

>>60073628
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3160935/computers/hp-recalls-over-100000-more-laptop-batteries-for-fire-hazard.html
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2007/lenovo-recalls-thinkpad-notebook-pc-extended-life-batteries-due-to-fire-hazard
Other manufacturers also recall parts when they fuck up, though it's usually stuff like batteries which are more of a chemical process. None of my laptops have had defective motherboards. You're just proving my point of how shit Apple products are if they can't get the goddamn motherboard right. You also look like a complete idiot for bragging about installing RAM and a hard drive. Can you also use the potty on your own like a big boy?

>>60071740
>It's still running as well as the day i bought it.
So, as a facebook machine?

Because coincidentally I have access to many ~2010 MBPs and all of them are shit for doing any work.

>>60073706
>None of my laptops
Anecdotal.

>You're just proving my point of how shit Apple products are if they can't get the goddamn motherboard right.
You're right, no other OEM has ever shipped a computer with a bad motherboard. Only Apple has. Sure.

My point is they did, and it was shitty, but they fixed it. Others do, it's reported less because no one wants to write an article about an E5540 or whatever motherboard failure, and Dell doesn't respond because fuck you, that's why. That's the status quo for every company except Apple, which is held to a higher standard (a higher standard in which you are clearly subconsciously holding them to).

In regards to the RAM and HD upgrades, my point is that Apple still repaired the machine out of warranty even with non OEM parts in the machine. Any other manufacturer would say "Oh, it's because of these third party parts" or even worse "you opened the bottom panel and that negates the warranty" and not touch the machine unless I replace the parts with the parts that shipped with it (sometimes impossible) or deny coverage all together because I "voided the warranty". I'm speaking from experience, you're speaking from your autism.

>>60073792
>Anecdotal.
Like your experience with Apple support?

>Others do, it's reported less
Proof?

>a higher standard in which you are clearly subconsciously holding them to
First, don't claim to know what's in my head, you smug little fuck. I've read Apple's training manuals and this type of "assertive suggestion" is one of their tactics. Second, there's nothing subconscious about it. I expect a $1500 laptop to work extremely well for many years. Macs do not meet this standard because they have dogshit build quality.

>I'm speaking from experience, you're speaking from your autism.
>>Anecdotal
Pot calls the kettle black.

You are not smart. You are not special. Apple products are bad and you should feel bad for using them. Fuck you and die, shill.

>>60073856
Fucking hell, Applefags #REKT

>>60073947
Kill yourself.

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>>60071740
>Why are you not using a MBP yet /g
I literally do.

>I bought the thing fully expecting for it to become my primary machine, but 7 years later all i ever used it for was bedtime surfing and content consumption
Okay, what the shit? First of all, why would you buy a MBP w/o being aware of its inherent limitations in terms of hardware power? You can see the specs beforehand, you know. And second of all, it's been 7 (SEVEN) years - that's an eternity for laptops! Unless the costs of a laptop represents an substantial amount of money for you (which would be sad), there's absolutely no reason to keep a computer that long w/o some serious upgrades. In conclusion: don't blame the hardware for you poor planning.

Same goes for you:
>>60073751
>all of them are shit for doing any work
Unlike seven year old ThinkPads which are perfect for work, right?

Btw.: I'm not really using mine either (anymore) because I don't have any use for a laptop, period. But it's still in excellent condition because A.) I take care of my stuff, which doesn't translate to "handling it with kid gloves" mind you, and B.) the build quality IS really good - unless you drop it, of course. But the only way to make a laptop that absorbs drops w/o issues is to make it ugly and plasticy, which would be SO much worse as far as I'm concerned. Also, I haven't dropped ANY computers EVER except my phone (which survived w/o visible damage), so I'm confident that I the risk is manageable.

>>60073856

You're just poor and angry. Your usage of pepe tells me you're a basement dwelling NEET typing away on a broken down Thinkpad, angry at the people you see outside your shitty shack on their shiny luxury products you know you will never be able to afford. Sorry I triggered you so badly. Have a nice evening.

>>60073958
>appletards wanting actual productive members of society to kill themselves
No, you kill yourself, you stupid fucking piece of shit.

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>>60073972
As I said to you before, I own a 2011 MBP. The "hue hue ur poor" argument doesn't mean anything because literally anyone can afford one of these pieces of shit. As I said before, you are not special. FYAD, loser.

>>60073964
>Unlike seven year old ThinkPads which are perfect for work, right?
Coincidently, we have a few ThinkPads (X61 to be precise) which are even older, but if they are to be used it'll be for running a local app server or something. Physically, though, they are in perfect condition. Macs have more visual defects than Thinkpads.

And, yeah, old Windows based PC work better than these Macs.

>>60074263
Mac OSX is so fucking bloated these days it stutters and lags even on brand new Retina Macbooks.
Meanwhile a Core 2 Duo piece of shit from 2007 runs Windows 10 smooth as butter and still continues to receive every single update.

I own a 2015 MBP. I got it new from BestBuy for 1,000. I plan on keeping this for years to come.

I have a late-2013. Best computer I owned. I used to own Toshibas and those things never lasted more than a year.

>>60071740
But i am using a 2011 MBP anon

>>60074263
>Macs have more visual defects than Thinkpads.
Only if they've been treated badly. I own an X200s which, while still in very good condition, is nowhere near as nice as the MBP. Not to mention that the MBP still looks like a current computer while the ThinkPad looks old as fuck.

>Windows based PC work better than these Macs.
For what exactly?


>>60074471
Bull. Shit. You are doing something wrong. Sierra doesn't lag on my mid 2010 MBP or any of my Mac Minis.

>still continues to receive every single update.
'the fuck is that supposed to mean? As opposed to macOS? Because that's simply not true.

Because I'm using an iMac Retina 5k.

Only problem I have with it is the screen gets dirty VERY easily and is hard to clean. I'm stuck with all these weird smudges and I don't know how they even got there. Never had that problem with any monitor I've had before.

>>60071793
I've owned 3 thinkpads and now use a MacBook Air 11. We all know the thinkpads are made out of cheap plastic on the outside which becomes brittle over time and breaks off if you use the thinkpad long enough. One time, I was drunk and was sleeping on the top bunk of a bunk bed, and I pushed my T60 off when I fell asleep. It cracked on the point of impact on a wooden floor and the display connector inside got messed up, I had to deal with that until the screen eventually just turned white. The same thing happened to my MBA recently, albeit from a much lower height at just around 2 feet. I now have a smell dent on the upper right corner where my Air hit my tile floor, but there was no other damage.

The trackpoint also gets fucked up over time, since it's just a small simple stick that you control with a small piece of rubber. Meanwhile, the MacBook trackpads are made of strong glass on top and they are far more versatile.

If this all makes me a macfag then so be it. But an old ThinkPad cannot compare with a Macbook made out of real metal and has been taken care of.

>>60074771
1.) spray glass cleaner on screen
2.) clean with paper towels
3.) problem solved!

Pro tip: do this while the screen is still warm so the glass cleaner evaporates more quickly.

>>60071740
>'rugged build'
>'high quality components'
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>>60074750
>Only if they've been treated badly.
They were treated equally. Or even better, because of "muh macbooks" mentality.
>For what exactly?
Day to day use, Office apps, light development.
>Bull. Shit. You are doing something wrong. Sierra doesn't lag on my mid 2010 MBP or any of my Mac Minis.
He's right though. For modern OSX not to be slow as fuck on a mid-2010 MBP, you would have to do pretty much nothing on it. It'll probably be able to handle one, maybe two tabs in a browser but that's about it.

>fully integrated ecosystem
walled garden prison is a "feature" now I guess
also
>"rugged build"
>anon:"Mine fucking bent you nigger"
>"UR FAULT U BENT IT CANT TAKE CARE OF YOUR THINGS HUH"
Oh, and also, they look stupid. They aren't particularly aesthetic at all. They look more like something thats trying very hard to adhere to a meme of "elegant, sophistcated aesthetic." Not something that actually does that look well in a practical or artistic way.
Neck yourself, shill.

>>60074860
>and has been taken care of.
(other anon here) That's the real issue here, isn't it. All of my hardware, be it mice, keyboards, laptops, mp3 players, phones, and even game pads, is clean and in perfect working condition - no matter how old. But some people have really low standards when it comes to "taking care of shit" and won't understand that their abusive mannerisms are not what most hardware is supposed to take. It's one thing to buy self-proclaimed rugged hardware (like military grade laptops or "outdoor phones") but standard, non-specialised, hardware isn't build to survive drops or physical stress - some are better than others but you can't expect your laptop to withstand the same abuse a heavy-duty power tool would.

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>>60074869
You forgot
4.) Months later after cleaning the anti-reflective layer on the LCD starts bubbling and peeling off due to "harsh chemicals" being used

>>60075032
To be honest, I am only now able to truly take care of my gadgets. When I first started really geeking out over shit I was a teenager. Now I'm in my 20s with a steady paycheck, and I have a full-time job so I'm busy and not always on my shit. I think my MBA is going to be the first laptop that I really keep for more than a couple of years. I really tried to do the same with my older ThinkPads but they all fell apart after about a year of my use. I work on my computer so that may also play a part in why they deteriorated quickly. But if I could have kept using them longer I would. This MacBook, my iPad, and iPhone, I bought all of them new. And so far they are showing no signs of getting old. Either they're better quality or I'm better at taking care of my things now.

>>60074860
you know thinkpads have trackpads too right?
try dropping your mba from the same height and see what happens lol
try replacing literally any component when it is worn out

>>60075170
ThinkPad trackpads? LOL

If you use a thinkpad and you actually prefer the trackpad just kill yourself. You're just grasping at straws man, give it up. The point of my post wasn't that the ThinkPad fell from that high and became broken. It's that the exterior is made out of plastic that falls apart after a long enough time.

>>60075138
Oh god, is that a common issue?

>>60075208
G O A L P O S T S = M O V E D
enjoy your soda can machine retard
honestly not sure why you're on a technology board, try >>>/fa/ , your intelligence seems better suited to >>>/v/ but macbooks can't play games

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>>60074968
>He's right though. For modern OSX not to be slow as fuck on a mid-2010 MBP, you would have to do pretty much nothing on it. It'll probably be able to handle one, maybe two tabs in a browser but that's about it.
Oh, get the fuck out. I'm using Macs since 2006 and that's just not true. Are you telling me I'm imagining things? "One, maybe two tabs"?!? that's such bullshit, even if you're exaggerating to make your point.

>Day to day use, Office apps, light development.
Again; bullshit. There's no difference to speak of when it comes to that in comparison to similar spec'd Windows laptops - if anything, Windows laptops are worse in my experience, albeit mostly due to user errors in most cases (if nothing else, macOS is much harder to mess up than Windows).

>They were treated equally. Or even better, because of "muh macbooks" mentality.
How would you even know how people treat their computers? And what the fuck kinda people are you working with that have "muh macbooks mentalities"? It's a goddamn laptop and people are dumbasses no matter what brand you give them.

You sound like the typical "I don't like Apple for ideological reasons but don't want to admit it so I look for "objective" justifications" kinda guy. You'll find "evidence" for everything if you look just hard enough contradictory proof be damned!

>>60075223
From grasping at straws to ad hominem

You honestly don't feel embarrassed? LOL

>>60075138
>anti-reflective layer
>iMac
Choose one. I've been doing this forever and I never had any issues - what the fuck kinda glass cleaner are you using!?

>>60071907
You may have an expanded battery. It could be a serious safety concern.

Open it up and inspect the battery, or get a professional to do it for you.

this couldn't just be a comfy macbook thread could it

>>60075293
It's /g/, of course the autists aren't going to let people have opinions that disagree from them.

>>60071740
I had a mid 2010 15 inch MBP. As I recall it had a defect in the 'logic' board where the graphics chip would crap out anytime it was in use giving you a black screen until reset.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203554

>>60075293
The OP is a shity viral advertisement and thats only more pathetic if hes doing it for free.
of course it couldn't

>>60075316
Why the fuck would Apple waste their time advertising here?

>>60075223
He might've moved the goal posts but ThinkPad trackpads are shit and you know it - so what if they work forever? And just FYI: how a laptop fares with drops is NOT a valid metric.

>>60074011
what dock is this?

Everytime I see a Thinkpad's trackpad I am convinced I made the right decision with a Macbook.

>>60071740
2008 was last one worth getting (end of replacable battery)

>>60075275
there was an issue of improperly applied anti-glare coating a while back, effected the early retina displays iirc. properly applied coating is like impossible to remove, even with harsh chems (but you should really only use monitor wipes at most)

>>60075275
They do have an anti-reflective coating and because of it you are only supposed to clean with a damp, lint-free cloth

t. AppleCare phone support

>>60075381
Looks like the normal OS X dock just set to left side, full length, no hiding/overlap.

>>60071861
>looks fucking ugly
wat?
You buy your computers for aesthetical purpose?
Are you tech illiterate girl?

>>60071861
Aids got him bad

>>60071740
I am using a macbook pro. It is running an Arch Linux KDE installation.

>>60072452
God that shit is really ugly i dont know how you apple lovers like that fucking old design its pure AIDS

>>60073372
>http://www.mac-forums.com/apple-notebooks/251476-macbook-pro-chassis-bent.html

What you expect of aluminium? its a fucking soft metal it scraps and bends very easily, specially if you make thin plates.

>>60071893
>Good to here

Hmmm so Macfags are illiterate when it comes to reading and writing as well as tech.....what a surprise.

>>60072070
Holy shit what a faggot

>>60072470
Holy shit this post is cringey as fuck....it's so fucking obvious it's shill too

>>60071740

the shit screen resolution and the absence of ability to stay awake when you close the fucking lid

>>60074750
You do know that Apple will cut you off right?

As in Windows continues to receive updates ages after your Fagbook is "obsolete." your fagbook might be able to run the latest release but Applel will tell you it can't and make it impossible for you to run it. Meanwhile, ancient PC's can be upgraded and run Windows 10 no problem

>>60071740
I have to ask by now- what percentage of /g/ is represented by actual computer users? As in they live and breathe in an environment of more than one OS and brand? None of this dedicated bullshit. I shitpost on my MBP, work and gaym on my desktop, do my job on a Latitude, and dick around with linux flavors on other older laptops. However, any of these can take the role of the other (except for gaymen, which doesn't count anyway). All computers are just computers.

And just for OP, this entire keyboard had to be replaced because the power button went to shit. Build quality and elegant design my fat white ass.

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>>60076867
This. I installed Windows 10 on a Thinkpad T43. Given that it was slow as shit but at least it's sort of possible. Later on I installed Windows 7 on it, and it was buttery as fuck, just as if it had XP on it.

>>60077869
Don't forget to install the GPU driver on win7
You can use the modded 2012 one from the T60p

>>60071740
i know its a bait thread but your GPU will fail very soon

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>>60071861

>>60072198
Linux is fully POSIX compliant and there's a distro that paid for the Unix certification. You macfags always brag about this even though it means absolutely nothing, there's no advantage, it's just something you read about somewhere.

>>60071793
>tfw I have a T60p mostly just collecting dust because it's pretty slow and mine only has a 32bit cpu

I've got OpenBSD on it currently

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>>60071740
> bought my first MBP in 2008
> worked fine for 3 years, suddenly logic board defect
> bought a new one
> realized how shit the new one was compared to the old one
> had it for 2 years before the logic board acted up again
> bought a cheap ass thinkpad for $350
> upgraded RAM and SSD after 18 months
> still works fine today

>>60071861
>soda can laptop

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>3000x2000 laminated touch screen
>support stylus
>same aesthetics as macbook
>USD 600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2rX9KgLqbc

>>60082109
>chinkshit

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>>60071793
>Excellent screen

>>60075219
No it's not. Normies who use fucking windex will ruin their macs but windex will also ruin ThinkPad tn shit. Don't use windex or other chemical shit and till be fine

>>60071740
because my touch screen dell is cheaper and better, and my x60 tablet is comfy, I don't like the feel of aluminum pressed up against my wrists when I type on a macbook pro, the thinkpad is perfect, no one could hope to design a better keyboard layout for a laptop.

>>60072452
Everything else is great, but im not so sure about airpods. Im an audiophile so very bias, but even disregarding that, dont they fall out of your ears?

>>60071740
My cheap lenovo 2011 still run, easy way I could add RAM and SSD, update to Windows 10 and keyboard.

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>own 2012 mbp
>cant stay with snow leopard because apple requires me to use the new version of their shitty OS to develop for iOS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60083513
Then update, retard.

>>60083529
i already did and already use newest version with shitty fucked UI.

im complaining i cant go back and that mac users are cunts that suck apple's dick and don't even bother making proper themes/customization options for their os.

>>60072339
t. poorfag

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>>60082189
Flexview 1600x1200 fucks over the vast majority of screens until very recently. You can put a QXGA (2048x1536) panel into the T/R 60/61.

>>60071740
>Why are you not using a MBP yet /g

I am using a MBP.

>>60073405
>Did you ever try pissing on your keyboard or jumping on your notebook?
ew. think about this when you are getting a second(jk fifteenth) hand chinkpad kids.

>>60071793
what an ugly piece of technology. So edgy with those red accents and colored keys

>>60084557
Not an argument.

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>>60084697
gaudy with those red accents and colored keys
>Not an argument.
hurrrr fagbook eat steve jobs hiv ridden dick durr
>Argument.

>>60084922
Still not an argument. You seem upset.

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>>60071740
2012 MBPr here, literally nothing matches this.

>>60085201
I sure am jelly of your 1-hour battery life.
>no, I swear my 5-year old battery lasts day!

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>>60085201

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>>60085145
you are not an argument kys

>>60085306
>m-maybe if I post more maymays
Still not an argument. So you admit defeat?

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>>60085439
>admitting defeat to an Anonymous poster in an anime website
stop (You)ing me creep

>>60073792
You are clearly delusional.
Dell expressely allow you to insert non OEM parts and it don't void any warranty.
Actually never had a problem with Dell onsite fix on next day it's clearly one of the top customer services.

>>60080680
Put a core 2 duo t7200 in it, nigger.

>>60072359
Nice one mates. Poo in the loo FTW!

>>60072607
>Debian is not posix compliant
Debian uses The GNU C Library, which literally is posix compliant

https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/POSIX.html

>>60071740

Because, as opposed to MBPs, my laptop can run 16-24h on batteries, has a trackpoint, and I can actually use usb serial adapters on linux, instead of redirecting the usb device to a vm, as I'd have to do on a mac.

>>60071895
>It also has an internal magnesium frame which is actually strong and not bending like one of the softest and cheapest metals (aluminium)
>machine milled aluminium
>bending

Wow anon I think you might actually be retarded.

>You realize plastic on the outside is more ergonomic than fucking aluminium, right

>plastic
>more ergonomic than aluminum

Yes anon, the flexy, creaky, fragile shit plastic is more ergonomic than a heat dissipating, functional, and sleek metal like aluminum.

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>>60072070

>Because I'm not a faggot

What does a mass produced computer have to do with sexuality?

>>60086118
aluminum is great it cuts your wrists for you

>>60086118
>ergonomics is somehow related to heat dissipation
You might be the stupidest person on 4chan, and that's counting with /x/.

>>60071740
god i wish i could trade my shitty thinkpad for a macbook

>>60086744
Aluminum gets nice and hot so you can warm your hands.

Plastic stays cool.
No good for freezing fingers.

>>60071740
>MacBook Pro built to last


AAAHAHAHAHAHA

No. Have fun throwing away the entire "logic board" when your shit RAM fails.

You tech iliterates never cease to amaze me with your retardation.

>>60086744
>ergonomic: relating to or designed for efficiency and comfort in the working environment
>efficiency and comfort
>efficiency

I can't tell if you're only pretending to be retarded or

>>60071740
I have the same laptop and it's been fucked up for years. Anything remotely graphics intensive triggers a GPU panic and restart in OS X, and intermittent black outs, sometimes recoverable, in Windows. This is a known issue by Apple, but of course outside the three year window from purchase, they won't do anything about it. It can only be fixed by replacing the logic board, so basically the whole computer. With only 256mb of VRAM, it's barely worth upgrading in the first place. This isn't even to mention that both my HDD and battery died and I had to replace them.

It worked wonderfully for the first year I had it, but it absolutely shit the bed after that, and seeing as it cost $2000, it's proven a poor investment.

>>60071740
>Rugged build
haha no, I had one, they are nice but to say they are fragile it's being gentle. fucking aluminium unibody gets fucked by the most miniscule bump
>Fully integrated ecosystem
this is a retard statement, osx was made only for this shit. Of course it will work, in your case, you are fucked because Sierra probably runs like shit.
>Excellent screen
1280x800 is not excellent by any means
>High quality components
fuck no, your model and pretty much any model after has some hardware problem. If I recall correctly the ones with nvidia graphics died after a short period of time, if yours has the nvidia integrated graphics you are just one of the lucky few
>POSIX Compliance Unix OS
This is a half lie, some shit works, some needs specific tailoring to even run. brew is fucking excellent though and has probably the most common tools for you to run.

>>60088144
Yes, I'm sure you'd freeze from touching a laptop.

>>60088919
Yes efficiency of use, not goddamn heat dissipation, you complete ape. Ever wondered why we make pillows with wool and not aluminum?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Ergonomy
>Design factors, as for the workplace, intended to maximize productivity by minimizing operator fatigue and discomfort.
Yeah, resting your wrists on an aluminum edge sure sounds comfortable!

>>60088173

>RAM fails
>laptop lasting 7 years still working

What are you angry at?

>>60089872
>Thinking all devices last forever without having a single breakdown

>Being this fucking retarded

Kek. Keep drinking the koolaid Macfaggot

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I only use mine for work. Apple has its head up its ass w/r/t gaming. Great machines otherwise if a bit pricey (major concern for poorfags).

>>60089857
> Yeah, resting your wrists on an aluminum edge sure sounds comfortable!

t. Macbook Pros are overpriced and I've never owned one

>>60091016

>sent from my 8 times repaired ThinkPad T420

Kek. Keep drinking the koolaid TwinkPadfaggot

>>60091958
Actually I have a T460p but whatever. Have fun with your faggy little cuckold toy.

>>60071808
>seaman
so what you're saying is, don't buy one if youre in the navy?

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>>60092076
>toy
>fun

No that's Linux and rice faggotry, not OSX

>>60072452
very good deal

>>60083404
Macbooks still have headphone jacks. A pretty good one iirc. If talking about the iPhone, just use a dongle, one even comes with it.

>>60091105
I actually have, 2013 MBP. It's not as ergonomic as a thinkpad. Stop evading the issue.

>>60071861
Enjoy your macbook housefire heating up the aluminium and releasing fumes that turn you into a faggot.

>>60092965
Yes, the most used server environment is the toy, not the piece of shit that doesn't even have a system-wide package manager.