Why is this so hard to understand?

>>60050917
Because unnecessary automation.

Doesn't it behave itself now? I installed a little while ago and got to pick my "I'm busy, don't bug me" hours. Am I in for disappointment when it ignores me or something?

there is no legit reason to update to w10 from w7

>>60050966
cortana

>>60050957
>got to pick my "I'm busy, don't bug me" hours.
So what if you one day happen to be doing something important outside of those hours? Isn't it ridiculous that your OS doesn't just let you decide every time?

>>60050979
are you mentally disabled

I'd help you though, there's is 1 (one) reason - Forza Horizon 3, I'm contemplating dual boot w10 for it exclusively

>>60050966
What happens to your Windows 7 when it's no longer supported?

>>60051007
Windows 8

>>60051007
I disabled all updates and ties to M$ right after I installed it in 2014. Why would I even want to update it, let alone receive "support" from fucking microshit of all companies.

Because microshit is too lazy to hire real computer scientists to completely redesign a brand-new windows, and they'd rather just hire code monkey pajeets to slap half-added code on top of an already existing operating system.

>>60051020
What happens to your Windows 8 when it's no longer supported?

>>60051072
Gentoo

>>60050917
>hard

>>60051037
It being exploitable because windows needs security updates for all the holes microsoft let in their software.

>>60050989
I figure it'll let me do what it did right after installation: let me finish what I was doing and then apply the update. Is that not a thing I can do with future updates?

>>60051088
>Poomb
>Gwomp

>>60051092
This baka desu senpai. New exploits are found every day. You shouldn't have to disable critical security updates just to make the operating system usable. That's just a bad workaround for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.

>>60051092
I've never had problems with software security in the last 15 years, might have something to do with me not visiting dodgy sites and opening unknown .exes. And even if I AM vulnerable, what am I ultimately risking? Becoming part of a "botnet" or mining operation? I'd take notice momentarily because I know every running process and normal system loads by heart.

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>>60050917
> hating on windows tan

>>60051156
Everyone thinks they're good until someone in China uses their credit card to rack up debt. Don't be stupid anon. Update before you hurt yourself.

>>60050957
That sounds better for people who use their computer on a regular schedule but it's still utter bullshit that there's no option to turn it off altogether.

>>60051194
True, but then we're outside the scope of this thread entirely. Stick Man sounds cool with applying updates.

>>60051184
You have to be clinically retarded to use overdraftable credit cards for online purchases.

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why can't people use this?

>>60051216
>this is the only way to have your identity stolen online
The future doesn't look too bright for you, I'm afraid.

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>>60050917
What is there to understand anon? are you cheating on me by dual-booting linux too?

>>60051097
Anon, they don't actually use Win10.

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>>60050917
You didn't even try Windows 10 did you?

>>60051234
Whatever makes you sleep at night. At the moment I am risking infinitely more allowing MS to tinker with my OS. Fuck them.

>>60051240
Why would I dual-boot linux, when I have WSL?

>>60051072
Windows 8.1. And what's with the support? If you have the latest possible hardware, that could be a valid reason to update to 8.1. if it supports it.

>>60051272
By the way, what's the status of Ryzen and Windows 7? I'm so far removed from having the latest hardware available in my machine, but I'm interested nonetheless.

>>60051224
why can't i leave my shit open for 8 days without my computer deciding to close everything and restart it?

>>60051261
just friendly advice, anon. In an increasingly digital and online world, the same practices you've used 15 years ago won't be enough as time goes on and criminals get smarter with technology.

>>60050989
>winbabbi gets to pick his """busy""" hours
How cute.

>>60050957
what if you happen to change your hours
you then have to worry about changing the system

utter garbage

>>60050989
its low grade
people are having to manually maintain their deteriorating shitheap .. linux updates without downtime/reboots

>he keeps complaining about Windows 10
>still hasn't switched to Linux, OSX, or even stayed with Windows 7 until Win7 security support ends in 2020

Why do people still do this? I keep a Windows 10 virtual machine just in case I absolutely need to use a Win10-only application, but I only use Linux and occasionally a Win7 virtual machine for my day-to-day productivity, browsing, and even gaming. For over two years, 95% of my computing has been done in a Linux environment, and I'm not a developer or neckbeard.

>>60051037
You should at least be installing the "security only" updates. You have to grab them through the online update catalog. They're not cumulative, so you have to grab the ones for each month and install them individually.

>>60050917
>big linux update
>takes maybe 5 minutes max
>doesn't even require reboot

>big windows update
>takes 1 hour
>resets all your settings
>forces you to reboot
Why the fuck can't Windows get this right?

>>60051942
W10 is needed for games now thanks to DX12 and retarded devs using it and nothing else.

>>60051942
You realize it's Linux users making these threads to try to justify their poor decision making, right?

>>60053131
>Linux
>shit-tier OS
>after 5 minute update, still shit tier.

>Windows
>God-tier OS
>after 5 minute update, still God-tier, only better

Why the fuck can't Linux get this right?

>>60051240
N-no, Windows-tan, I would never...

>>60051007
i don't even care about support
oh no microsoft won't install new spyware on my computer automatically anymore

i'm still on XP, propably switching to seven soon

>>60053219
>Windows
>God-tier

hahahahahaha fucking stockholm syndrome
>"You need to restart your computer to apply this settings change. Restarting..."
>"Program successfully installed. You need to restart your computer to complete the installation. Restarting..."
>forced restart to apply updates
>can't use your computer while installing updates; have to sit there and stare at the screen as it installs them
>"we couldn't complete the updates, undoing changes..."
>"restarting..."
>can't refuse specific features in an update
>can't refuse updates at all, unless you disable them completely, but...
>have to disable critical security updates just to make the system usable
>but it will only be usable for a week because Windows has more holes than swiss cheese
>still need an anti-virus
>still need to defrag occasionally
>still need to reinstall Windows regularly due to windows rot (this is arguable, some people say that you won't get windows rot if you take precautions, but no such measures are required on other operating systems)
>BSOD- It is NEVER acceptable to let the entire operating system crash when a single application causes a problem, yet Windows allows it.
>can't change the Desktop UI without some broken hacky shit
>can't customize anything outside of what Microsoft "allows"; it's Microsoft's computer for as long as Windows is installed on it
>feature creep
>ads in file manager
>ads in settings UI
>ads in start menu
>ntfs (LOL)
>still uses registry (LOL)

>>60051257
what the fuck happened that made it necessary to explain everything like I'm eight years old?

>>60053131
It's because they're too cheap to hire people that actually know what they're doing and they don't want to invest the time or money required to create a brand-new operating system that doesn't suck, so instead they just hire pajeets to copy-paste code and .dll's

>>60053219

Linux isn't an OS. try again, wincuck.

>>60051272
>what are security updates

Arrived at work at 8, turned on my computer as usual.

Windows 10 decided to start an upgrade, which lasted a full hour. No work actually done until 9:04.

There's absolutely no valid reason why it would upgrade at startup instead of before shutdown last Friday when I turned it off for the weekend.

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Turn off auto restart in the windows task scheduler. Windows has a tendency to re-enable this setting if it's disabled for too long. To fix this, you have to rename a file in the system32 folder. It's simply called "reboot" with no file type. Rename it to reboot.bak. Updates will still download and install on their own, but windows will no longer auto-restart.

https://betanews.com/2017/01/31/stop-windows-10-rebooting-after-updates/

Remember to always make a fresh backup of your windows install kids. With MS forcing updates down your throat, never know when said updates will fuck your machine. I cannot believe this is honestly the state of windows now. What happened to MS since XP? Or windows 7? When did they start seeing their users as nothing but data mining prospects?

>>60053552
Around the time that they decided EVERYTHING needed to fall for the software-as-a-service meme. Including your fucking OS. Not allowed to just own and have a thing anymore. Because you see, MS didn't make any money from it when I installed Windows 7 last week from a disc I got in 2010. The idea is to turn customers into constant revenue streams, not just single purchases here and there.

>>60051216
You realise your attitude won't save you when some chink rapes your credit card right?

>>60051224
>You're too stupid to decide when your updates happen!
>If you put it off, we're coming over and making you update damnit!

>>60053179
It's funny, if people would smarten up enough to use Linux, I'd lose most of the cash I earn by fixing all the Windows fuck ups. Even my computer illiterate grandpa who needed help every month hasn't needed help in two years since putting him on Linux Mint.

>>60053804
>install Linux
>decide you want to try a new hobby
>YOU MUST SPEND THE NEXT 5 YEARS LEARNING LINUX TO DO THIS! LINUX IS YOUR HOBBY NOW!
>decide to leave it as a Facebook machine

>install Windows
>decide you want to try a new hobby
>Windows opens the world to you
>After years of romping through endless vistas, each more beautiful than the last, you do something that fucks your configuration up.
>have to pay a NEET $10 to fix it
>Get it back and continue on in absolute bliss

You're right, Linux sounds much nicer.

>>60053983
this is not true

I've only been using Linux is my daily driver for 2 years and I've picked up digital art and programming as hobbies.

Windows just kept getting in the way when I tried doing this :(

>>60053983
>windows
>opens the world to you
>windows

That's funny. It has more restrictions than macOS. You only pretend it doesn't because more developers make your video games for that platform.

>>60054107
You can program on a fucking napkin.

>>60053473
>what are security updates
Whatever Microsoft wants them to be. It's a proprietary operating system after all. Good luck proving if anything at all gets patched.

>>60054171
that's less of a pain than windows programming

Why doesn't it need to shutdown to update?
Is this some kernel limitation or Pajeets just can't do it?

>>60054171
Napkin doesn't have PEP8 or traceback.

Can't windows pro users defer for 35 days now for security updates and a year for feature updates? Is that enough? Or is the only solution never sending to Microsoft (they always have) and disabling all updates? I find it hard to believe this is the normies' general opinion of 10.

>>60053552
>With MS forcing updates down your throat, never know when said updates will fuck your machine.
It has happened to me several times already, I don't know if I'm that unlucky or what, but I don't remember ever having such problems with 7.
Windows Update is also broken on fresh installs of 7 and 8.1, you have to manually download some updates first to get it working.
It's depressing to think that this is what the most popular OS family in the world is like to use.

>>60053983
Five years to learn? You learn awfully slow don't you? Took me a month to adjust after 22 years of Windows. Haven't missed it once.

>>60054745
A month to learn? You must learn awfully slow don't you? Took me a week to adjust after 22 years of Windows. Haven't missed it once.

>>60051240
>cheating on me by dual-booting linux too?
No, I'm just going to wait until my hardware is supported and install a distro.

>put computer to sleep last night
>It wakes up after an hour
>Fans start hauling ass for 5 minutes
>It goes back to sleep
>Hard drive makes a distinctive screech as it turns off
WTF was his problem? I haven't started it up again yet, slightly scared it ruined the drive

>>60054774
What kind of insult is this? You claim to have higher intellect, yet you also claim to have stuck to Windows just as long.

Smells like bad bait.

>>60054841
What kind of insult is this? You claim to have higher intellect, yet you also claim to have stuck to Windows just as long.

Smells like bad bait.

>>60054879
I'M A FAGGOT

>>60054570
Yup it's truly sad. As much as the Linux users on /g/ think, MS was a decent company at one point in time. As for updates on windows 7/8.1 why not just use WSUS offline updater? Straight forward and easy to use. I got my living room PC on windows 7. Got all patches/updates installed in around 30 minutes.

http://www.wsusoffline.net/

>>60054894
I know you are, but what am I?

>>60050957
If you postpone for too long it will literally restart whenever it wants to.

>>60055012
This. It's fucking retarded. One of the reasons I'm using Linux to actually get my work done these days. It doesn't just randomly reboot to do updates (wasting 10 minutes in doing them, possibly also wasting up to half an hour of unsaved work).

Man, fuck Windows. Honestly. It's turning into complete shit and at this point I only have it installed for games.

>>60054879
>>60054894
>>60054973
I wonder how many (You)s populate this post.

>>60055110
>>60054894
>>60054879
>>60054841
>>60054774
>>60054745
I wonder how many (You)s populate this post.

>>60054745
>>60054774
>>60054841
>>60054879
>>60054894
>>60054973
>>60055110
>>60055141
I wonder how many (You)s populate this post.

>>60053983
>>60055141
This is what to expect when talking with a hurt Windows user. I'm satisfied with this level of reee. Time to go outdoors.

>>60051794
I know, so why are we still updating?
its like 20 years old?

or you could just use your computer correctly and never have anything lost.

>>60055200
I wonder how many (You)s populate this post.

>>60050917
Playing lol, about to initialize team fight, suddenly windows popup asking me if I want to update.

Die and lose team fight as I frantically try to close the fucking popup.

Who thought that was a good idea?

Shut your computer down at night like once a week at least. Probablem solved.
Retards like op who just spam remind me later for years are the reason it is mandatory.
If you are too fucking retarded to schedule updates or anything you necessitate it being shoved down your throat.

>>60055204
Lmaoing at the guy who doesn't understand anything about security.
>if i don't click an exe i am totally fine!
Somewhat unrelated but i lovr people like you because i got free wifi from shit like reaver for years, because if it isn't ransomware or something totally obvious, everything is fine! I didn't click gethacked.exe.

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>>60050966
WSL.

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>>60055217
>>60055200
>>60055181
>>60055141
>>60055110
>>60054973
>>60054894
>>60054841
>>60054774
>>60054745
Here's your (You)

>>60053155
>DX12
nice meme

>>60055506
(You) forgot your (You)

>>60055535 (You)

>>60055233
That's because Windows was never designed to turn your computer into a glorified gaming console. It's an operating system for working. It needs popups to inform the user of different things. It's not the responsibility of the operating system to help you do well at video games.

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Reposting from the other thread.

>>60055570
Let's just excuse the fact that Microsoft created a graphical API exclusively for its operating system, then claimed it would not support OpenGL on Vista. It's not like they wanted to hoard all the games or anything.

>Games for Windows Live

>>60055765
What you say is correct. Nevertheless, Windows was never designed specifically for games. They add support for games as an afterthought.

>>60055820
Perhaps they should rethink a little then. If they're going to attempt to monopolize something, they should at least try to do a good job of it.

>>60051257
>windows is a service
That's kinda scary. Windows 10 is probably going to be the last Windows.

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>>60051240
Never! Cause then you couldn't watch me and I know you like that

>buy windows 10 professional edition
>turn off literally all telemetry and windows functions
>basically a paid version of linux but i won't look autistic in front of others

seems good

>>60051240
What you gonna do bitch? Rape me with your vagina?

>>60050917
Few advices.

Don't use Insider builds.
Don't use the Home version for forced restarts-
Don't set the region to US because ads and other stupid shit.

I don't even have a prodcut key and I've been using W10 for almost a year and a half now and I never seen any ad or other shit like that. On other machines I made the mistake of installing with the US region and it pre-installed Candy Crush and two or three games, placed some stupid apps on the start menu and started showing me ads. But I guess amerikikes deserve it for being good goyim and fucking everything up all the time.

>>60056140
-then forced updates comes even tho you turned it off
-all telemetry shit and more is back and now you can not disable it,even disconnecting from internet will not help

been there,done that

And every mayor update fucks everything up

>>60055358
>i got free wifi from shit like reaver for years

Your machine is likely botted from people like me that would simply shell into your box using the no doubt still default credentials of backtrack/kali or whatever you were suing when WEP was still a thing.

>>60056362
>Don't use Insider builds.
>Don't use the best Win10 version.

>>60058686
>>60054570
>>60053552
Wouldn't it just make more sense to shut off the update service and turn it on when you want to update?

Because niggers like you go without updating then bitch about how windows sucks after getting a virus from your kiddie porn sites.

>HURR DURR IZ WINDOWS FAULT

>>60051869
>liniggers understanding the idea of being busy
haHAA

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>>60051240
Glad this bitch can't read EXT4.

>>60050957
You can only have 12 busy hours during week days and 8 busy hours on weekends.

Why? Because Microsoft doesn't fucking care what you want. It cares what it wants. You will keep giving they money anyway because you need them.

>>60050989
>actually working overtime
>on your own personal time
what the fuck r u doin m8ty????

>>60050917
Disable forced update restarts in 10 LTSB via group policy

shutdown /t 0 /s to shut down without updating
shutdown /t 0 /r to restart without updating

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>>60051182
poor Nanami

>>60050917
>Set personal hours 8am to 10pm
>You can't have more than 12 person hours

>>60051037
enjoy your malware dumbshit

>>60055570
Then maybe they should tell game devs to fuck off to Linux.

>>60051007
I know professionals who still use XP so I think Win7 still has plenty of life left.

>>60059430
>professionals

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>>60051257
>We've got an update for you
>Windows is a service
>We need your "help"

Man, that makes me so happy I'm not using Windows.

>>60059462
>shitposts make you so happy you aren't using something
Honestly truly thankful I wasn't born as you.

>>60059486
>shitposts
Are you trying to tell me that's not the dialog Windows actually uses?

Have the leaked CIA tools been patched yet?

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>>60053388
someones triggered

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>>60053388
>restarting the computer when an installation tells you to
Bro I live on the edge, I never restart.

>>60053415
Well you're using Windows so obviously you're an idiot.

>>60053415
There should be difficulty levels when you first install

>>60059660
Bobber chopper motorcycle helmet

>>60053388
Windows can't remove the registry without making 99% of applications out there incompatible.

>>60050917
Just learn how to use gpedit.msc you retard.

>>60051261
>would rather risk identity theft than let m$ anally rape you like it has been for a while

>>60053219
good job, pradheep!
have 12 rupees for your troubles

>>60054774
A week to learn? You must learn awfully slow don't you? Took me 2 days to adjust after 22 years of Windows. Haven't missed it once.

>>60059660
>implying this changes anything

43 years on Win10 here. Haven't missed it once after adjusting to Linux in 10 seconds flat.

>>60050917
I don't know, but it pisses me off in Windows 7 too, I guess I'm never going to install updates if you're going to tell me to pull the plug every couple of hours, you piece of shit

>>60059660
Nooo I deleted my immunity cat

(you)

>>60051224
>up to 7 days
It's my fucking machine.
I should be able to tell Windows to fuck off and have it fuck off until I tell it to not fuck off.

>>60060488
Don't use windows then

>>60058686
>Its actually harder to make Win 10 usable than Arch
Feels good man

>>60060523
I use Windows 7, I just don't update until I feel like turning my computer off.

>>60060488
It's 30 days, don't know if they changed but when I activated it was 30, hence why it's only updating on 17/may

>>60051910
>linux updates without downtime/reboots
Not for long with systemd

>>60060761
Arch does just fine with updates.

>>60054784
>dual boot
>not using VM's
wew lad

>>60059281
Sounds like working for your computer rather than the other way around.

>>60051224
Why can't Windows get updates with zero downtime right, like Linux?

>>60051007
>no longer supported?
what the fuck does that even mean

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>>60050917
>Select "Not now" (no "Never"/"No") option for Cortana
>W10 has Cortana in the taskbar on the first log in

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>not using LTSB

You asked for this.

Easiest to just disable the winupdate service 2bh, slav 0day exploits are less harmful than Microsoft automatic updates

>>60050989
>So what if you one day happen to be doing something important outside of those hours?
Then I will be at my computer doing the important thing?

Why the fuck would anyone NOT want to update their software you inbred fucking shitstained retards.

Save your work and update the system for fuck's sake

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>>60053388
>>BSOD- It is NEVER acceptable to let the entire operating system crash when a single application causes a problem, yet Windows allows it.
I have to disagree. If it is something criticial, it might be preferred to have the kernel panic than to potentially get data loss.
Purely user-space stuff or however it works though should never really cause any oopses or panics, only system stuff really should.
Does this happen on Windows or is it just that windows is pretty liberal in what they put in the kernel?
>>still uses registry (LOL)
A lot of applications on linux will litter random directories in your home directory (./, ./local, .config, etc) with configurations
sure it is better than the registry, but still
>>feature creep
let us be honest, systemd, firefox, and others does this too

>>60063512
>it might be preferred to have the kernel panic than to potentially get data loss.
You think that kernel panic is any safer?

>>60059378
>What is Common Sense 2018 Edition?

>>60063550
yes, than allowing the kernel to keep running possibly corrupting stuff

>>60063436
Where are you even getting LTSB?

>>60063207
Won't get security updates which is fine for some because they know how to avoid exploits

>>60063752
no
no they do not

>>60063752
>Security updates
*Yawn*

Why does Windows 10 interrupt whatever your doing just to install updates? They should've made it like; Download the update and install it when the computer is shutting down.

>>60055307
Unless I don't want updates? What's the issue I'm just fcking myself over by being lazy. I don't see why MS has anything to with me not updating.

>>60063482
I'm just sitting here picturing a Microsoft dev wishing for the public to accept his poorly written updates. When they don't, he angrily posts on /g/ to vent his rage upon the world.

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>>60066969

>>60067071
Congrats, you caught me! You want a frenchie fry little Jimmy?

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>>60067110
>your face when being found out

>>60059660
(you)

>>60051007
>falling for the support meme
what does support even mean. Updates? I don't need updates

>>60050957
The problem is that you shouldn't have to set "I'm busy" hours and shit

The computer is a tool. I tell the computer when it can update not the other way around

>>60051007
For me personally, I might abandon windows completely and go fully towards the linux ways. Slowly it's becoming more supported with things like games. I hate it but there's really no good sounding future with me using windows after 7. It's a real shame I started all the way back on 3.1

>>60050917
because the newest version of the tracking software disguised as an update can't wait for your worthless work

>>60067349
Actually the problem is the "autistic screeching." It's kind of weird to be talking about what I should or shouldn't have to do on an arbitrary system. This is how it happens to be set up. In that context I do have to set hours for it to silence those notifications.

And just like in the cartoon, I do tell it when it can update. I make that decision within the context provided to me because I'm not the one who designed the tool. Disagreeing with those design decisions doesn't give license to accuse W10 of "autistic screeching" when it does nothing of the sort.

>>60051007
The general public has been fine with sticking to Windows 7 and XP over 8, 8.1, and 10. I doubt a lack of developer support will make much of an impact on them.

>>60055763
>uptime 16 days
laughingpenguins.png

>>60053179
>You realize it's Linux users making these threads to try to justify their poor decision making, right?
I doubt that. Ever since Windows 8, the biggest critics of Microsoft have been Windows users.

>>60069718
He's not bragging about the uptime, he's pointing out that even though there's been an update available his computer hasn't been restarted for it.

>>60050917
ARE YOU PAYING FOR FUCKING BANDWITH? WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH A LIMIT IN WHAT WE CAN BROADCAST YOU I DON'T CARE IF MY ADD FUCKS YOUR SHIT UP I GET MONEY FROM PUTTING ADDS ON YOUR SHIT
>*AUTISTIC SCREECHING

>>60051007
absolutely nothing, you won't get any new security updates, i've had XP installed on other PC until recently.

>>60051182
>>60059359

fuck off stupid weeb shit

>>60050917

It is a non-issue for the intended market of Home edition a.k.a normies who normally asleep when it normally updates.

The updates take no more than 10-15 minutes on a modern system.

Get the Pro Edition if you feel that 10-15 minutes takes up too much of your time.

>>60059660
Who is even afraid of sharks

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Works on my configuration.

>>60051224
real talk COULD it be possible to write a past date via wizzardry to disable updates? what if i set it to 3017? would that work?

>>60050999
Just buy an Xbox.

>>60069707
>The general public
enterprise as well

>>60050917
>Go into settings
>Set Windows to prompt you when it needs to reboot for an update
Gee whiz, that was hard. Using computers is way easier when you don't have the mental capacity of an 8 year old.

>>60072125
>Using computers is way easier when you don't have the mental capacity of an 8 year old.
So if you have the mental capacity of a 9-year old you're fucked?

>>60059660
here

>>60053434
actually it is