Intel Coffee Lake S 6 Core Desktop Processor Leaked, Core i5

Nice to gimp a CPU just to segment your products. It will have worse multithreading than a 1600x. Unless of course people just OC it :-----D 300w :----D
>WCuCkFTECH
nevermind

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>>60050293
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60050382
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-coffee-lake-shows-up-in-sisoft-sandra-results.html

There's another source for the same shit.

>>60050293
>It comes with 3.5 GHz base clock
Lol

THANK YOU BASED INTEL

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>6c6t
>no boost
>10nm slower than 14nm
>3.5ghz
So this, this is the power of cucktel

>>60050385
>>60050424
You realize this doesn't look very impressive for Intel, right retarded shitposting shill?
>>60050413
All the idiots claiming Intel was going to move up to 6 cores and keep the same clockspeeds just got served a helping of "You're a retard, kthx"

Intel's cores are nothing without high clocks, and high clocks I mean over 4.5GHz

This is only the 95W part.... wait for the much higher clocked 150W one

>>60050293
>Hay intel can I have 4ghz?
>3.5ghz? What do you need with 3.2ghz?
>1% gains: 4 ticktocs

OH BOY A NEW SOCKET THANK YOU INTEL!

>>60050510
A socket change a year, keeps the goyim in fear!

>>60050455
>wait for the much higher clocked 150W one
1. It won't be much higher clocked at that wattage.
2. That's already housefire tier.

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>>60050438
>yfw

>>60050510
It may or may not be on a new socket. That's not really confirmed yet. But if we go by past history, yeah, it's on a new fucking socket.

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h-hheh heh h-heh. s-surely this will be intel's d-death blow to AMD

>>60050523
I have a 650 Watt powersupply please allow me to justify purchase

>>60050455
>please pair our Intel 6 core with an appropriate $300 mobo so it doesn't melt the socket, thanks

>>60050562
I hope you have liquid cooling and an expensive mobo as well.

>>60050583
better submerge it into mineral oil just to be sure

>3.5Ghz
Unless this overclocks to 4.5Ghz it's pointless compared to a Ryzen 6 core.

>>60050619
Nuclear inferno tier.

>>60050619
The 7700k at 4.8 pulls close to 200W alone.
The situation with the 5-5.1 ones is much more hilarious, what do you think happens when you add in 50% more cores?

>>60050293
>i5 still has no hyperthreading in 2020
JUST

too little, too late, already got my 8 core 16 thread ryzen cpu for 50 euros less than an i7 7700k

sorry intel!

>>60050679
>You must be 18 or older to post on this site

>>60050663
Why would it? Why should it? There's no reason for them to do that.

>>60050699
You're right, Intel re-creating the 6 core FX series in 2017 is a much better idea.

>>60050699
there is no reason for them to disable it other than marketing

>>60050293
>3.5GHz Kaby Lake+
...And it will still outdo a Ryzen 5 1600X for the same price. Zen is not even 85% of Kaby Lake's IPC.

>>60050712
>FX
>cores

More like recreating the Thuban range.

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>>60050751

>>60050663
i5 with hyperthreading is called i7
Intel wouldn't kill a profitable market segment

>>60050699
because amd can do it and do it cheaper/better, its called competition

>>60050751
Agner Fog seems to disagree.

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It was true, it was fucking true. They didn't have anything prepared at all and are just rushing duct-taped housefires to the markets. MY FUCKING SIDES

>>60050751
>lying on the internet

Too low clocks, even if the retail part is 200MHz higher in best case at those low clocks it's completely uncompetitive on top of guzzling power like a brand hooker

>>60050655
this isn't a i7-7700k + 50%
it's a i5-7600k + 50%
heat should not be an issue, but 6 cores naturally don't clock as high as 4 cores.

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>>60050404
>>60050413
>>60050436
>>60050444
>>60050475
>>60050510
>>60050547
>>60050663

>s-stop bullying

>>60050768
then make the i7 have more cores

also

>profitable
not for long they wont, those things wont sell in anything but oem prebuilts just like Pentium 4

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>>60050799
The 50% is conservative, you can't just strap on 2 extra cores on a 4 core and be done with it, you need a bigger uncore, more buses, more caches, more inter-bandwidth, all of which consume a considerable amount of power.

>>60050799
Still, >3.5GHz for six cores is much better than what Ryzen could do
>can't even hit 3.8GHz stable on all six cores
Ryzen 5 1600X is a fucking abortion

>>60050870
1600X turbos all cores to 3.7 at stock.
So does the 1800X

Both have been OCd to 4.1-4.2GHz

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>>60050870
oh wow

>>60050856
>8 core as if not more power efficient as a i5
now for the oem contracts, amd has the tech but can they convince people to make a high end ryzen portable workstation

power consumption is what locked amd out of mobile and servers, now that that is solved, expect AMD to appear in a lot more laptops

>ftw raven ridge powered p series thinkpad or better yet a raven ridge powered thinkpad classic
pls make it happen amd/chinknovo

>>60050724
Correct, but that doesn't answer the question.

>>60050771
And yet more people will continue to buy Intel. Why should they change what they're doing if AMD isn't threatening their profit?

>>60050856
>6 core Intel using twice the power at 3.8 compared to 4 core Intel at 3.8 in Prime95

>TWICE

Lmao

>>60050870
>expecting massive overlocking on a new arch
phenom, nehalem, bulldozer, athlon, and pentium 4, core 2 would like to have a word with you

>>60050912
I'd bet on HP, actually. They are the only company left that still makes AMD-powered business laptops, so they will probably be the first.

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>all these AMD poorfags trying to justify their Cuckzen purchase because they can't afford Intel hardware

>>60050900
>Both have been OCd to 4.1-4.2GHz
Meanwhile a i7-5820K and 5930K can overclock to 4.4GHz and over. What's the point of buying Ryzen again?

>>60050942
Broadwell cores are slightly less efficient than Skylake ones, but that disparity comes from the cache size on the Broadwell, Intel's L3 uses a lot of power.

Intel actually has a 140W 3.4GHz base part 4 core with 60MB L3 cache, that should tell you everything.
3.4GHz base 4 cores are 15" tier in terms of power draw

>>60050962
justified with a shitload of benchmarks, now crawl back into the oven shekelchaser

>>60050963
not burning down your house

>>60050963
For starters he ain't buying a shit platform, but hey, don't forget to mention that Broadlel-E can barely do 4.3GHz as well

>>60050932
>And yet more people will continue to buy Intel
nope, ryzen is already outselling the i3, and the extreme edition and is neck and neck with the i7 and i5, it takes a while to build customers, give ryzen a few generations and they will be outselling intel 10 - 1 in retailers just like back in the athlon days

>>60050982
>Ryzen
>not a housefire

>>60050978
>a bunch of cherrypicked paid off benchmarks

>>60050699
>>60050768
Where are these idiots still thinking Intel has no real competition even coming from?
>>60050963
Costs 3 times as much, will burn your house down and doesn't offer appreciable performance gains, maybe?

>>60050993
chaim pls

>>60050960
i know HP will i want lenovo to do it I WANT MY THINKPAD CLASSIC WITH RYZEN REEEEEEEEE

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>>60050993
Great reality distortion field.

>>60051000
>muh 6950X

>>60050993
>>60051000
This isn't even decent shilling. I'm really disappointed here. You earn 0.0000000000000000000001 shekels for these posts.

>>60050962
There's no NEED to justify it when Intel hardware is overpriced, overheating and overhyped.

>>60051014
Ryzen is okayish in an OS that nobody uses
Wow, that sure showed me.

>>60051023
$0.10 have been deposited into your AMD Rewards account.

>>60051000
>amd
>having the money to pay shills
you know its bullshit every time you try to bring up that """"""'point""""""""

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>>60051045

>>60051047
>being this mad at competition
jeez you sound turbo jewish

>>60050963
>5820K
Almost 2 times more expensive than 1600 not counting 2-3 times more expensive motherboards

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>>60051063
>nothing to suspect here, go- I mean, guy. AMD would never shill

J-just wait, coffee lake can OC to 5.2GHZ 6 cores no problem

>>60051093
Yeah, you just have to pay a midget to pour the ln2 for you while you game.

>>60051093
Come with a free tub of Ln2

>>60051090
its unrealistic to think amd has the money to pay shills, but apparently according to you thay are some loaded richfag company that can afford that sort of marketing

>>60051093
>6c 6t only goyim

cucked again, shekelchaser

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>>60050382
>>60050436
>>60050475
>>60050510
>>60050773
>>60050792
STOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>60051090
pay ?
Amdfag would gladly do it for free

>>60051066
source of that image?

>>60051093
*with a delid and consuming more power than the eventual amd 16 core

>>60051120
Your fucking eyes.

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>>60050293
See what Intel's got in store for you! (eternal damnation, basically)

>>60051129
delid this

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>>60050773
What did you expect, really? They should have had their new arch arriving at this point, or maybe early next year at the latest. Intel management is complete retard tier.

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>>60051108
>intel
>giving something for free

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>>60051141
>i use intel hardware

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>>60051093
kek

>>60050655
I have a 5820k at 4.7GHz that pulls around 190w.

That's 6c/12t 22nm.

>>60051168
As a Jewish Intel shareholder, I find that picture to be extremely offensive

>>60051205
fuck off, brian

Is there a reason to buy Ryzen? I mean, it just seems like shit however you look at it.

>>60051241
Not really, unless you are allergic to superior technology and optimization

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>>60051241
nice try mister intel marketer

>>60051241
Better price/performance. Better thermals. Lower power consumption.

Is there a reason to buy Intel? Because honestly, they just can't compete.

>>60051183
So at 14nm you're expecting maybe 4.8 or 4.9? That's still not enough to make up for the higher price, housefire TDP, cooling requirements, high end mobo, etc. And if you still have to delid the fucking thing, lol.

I was under the impression - and this thread seems to confirm - that multithreaded tasks can perform better on 1c2t than 2c2t due to the shared resources? Why would intel remove it on their most popular range if so?

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>>60051183
Who are you kidding?

>>60051266
>Better price/performance. Better thermals. Lower power consumption.
Is any of this actually true? Asking as a buyer.

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>>60051327
>intel shills lying
Well, I never.

>>60051346
Price/performance for the 1600 and 1600X is amazing. 65watts for a 6 core 12 thread is fucking fantastic. Naturally it doesn't run very hot at that TDP.

>>60051327
>idle

Lmao, the platform uses more power Idle than a 1800X at full load

>>60051327
>318W
rip

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>>60050293
>w-we can do consumer 6 cores, too!
>j-just watch! we can even do it without SMT!
>with one hand tied behind our backs!

>>60051183
Pulls around 190W idling in the file manager?

>>60051327
source and how are they isolating CPU load only?
That looks like total system power draw based on those numbers, which will vary depending on your HDDs, SSDs, peripherals attached, etc.


My 4.7GHz 5820k pulls FROM THE WALL at idle ~100-120w. But that's including 4x 4TB, 1x5TB, 500GB SSD, 250GB SSD, idle GPU, etc.
>>60051394
If we're talking total power draw I draw at idle around 100-120w just sitting on the desktop.
In games I can pull around 330w but that's obvious a fair bit of GPU power draw as well.

In CPU benchmarks it can hit about 270w at MOST.

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>>60050293
>3.5GHz base
What is this? A fucking laptop part? What kind of shit arch does Intel have here? AMD can do 8/16 with higher clocks at 95W TDP, with real power consumption around 120W, meanwhile the 95W 7700k is so far over its TDP at stock it's not even funny, it should be called fraud at this point.

>>60050583
Yeah

I love wasting cash so that I can't afford 16gib on my work laptop

i7 is only for overpriced HEDT now?

>>60051431
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/intel-core-i7-5820k-haswell-e-6-core-cpu-review/all/1/

Socket?
1151?
Does it work with Z270 boards?

I am not going for Ryzen because I need my PC also for CEMU to play Zelda.
AMD sucks hard at it.

>>60051482
Doubt it, this is just one leaked benchmark result which appears to be a desktop i5.
>>60051497
Unknown if it's on the same socket or not. But buying a high single core performance CPU to play an alpha quality emulator is dumb. Like, really really dumb.

>>60050293
>Coffee Lake

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>coffee lake
Are they even trying with naming schemes at this point?

>>60051491
>the system pulling 318W from the wall
>Ignoring the high idle power consumption (which is largely a trait for the Asus X99 motherboard versus IVB-E and Devil’s Canyon’s MSI alternatives)
>We must note that the Haswell-E systems were housed inside an NZXT Phantom 630 chassis with three case fans. The 4790K and 4960X were tested in an open-air environment hence the powering of fans was not required.

So basically it uses a lot of idle power with first generation X99-2011-3 boards and they're measuring total system power draw which includes 3 fans each using at least ~5w per. So another ~15w just for those fans.

As you can see, this isn't just measure CPU power draw, which is where the 140TDP number is coming from. Actual power draw from JUST the CPU isn't usually going to approach 200w, even with a decent OC.

>>60051508
Why is it dumb?
I am not going to buy the Switch, so that's it.
CEMU heavily relies on clock speed.
I am thinking of getting an i5-7600k just for this purpose.

>>60051590
>tfw have a 6 core 12 thread intel I got from the intel retail edge program for $150.
>tfw my friend gives me a nintendo switch

Feels good, CEMU works decently, but the Switch is still my preference.

>>60051590
Because it's unoptimized as hell. But hey, your money. Maybe you should spend it on a Switch instead of a pre-obselete 4 core and wait for the emulator to improve, lol.

>>60051572
You're delusional.
Is it that hard to type in "5820k power consumption overclocked" in Google? It's far from a pretty sight, even Tom's individual rail testing of the CPU puts it at 150W at only 4.0GHz

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,3918-10.html

>>60051629
That's one of the strong points of a normal PC, you can pretty much do anything with it.
I am not buying a shitty console just for 1 game, end of story.

The people with Intel CPUs and Nvidia cards are running Zelda constantly at 30fps already and in Dungeons at 60fps stable.
This is optimized enough for me regarding performance.

>>60051661
So literally a 700Mhz OC. (20%) and it's only going 10w over it's design TDP?

That sounds fucking fantastic.

>>60051661
>>60051686
That's the 5960X, dumdums.

>>60051040
>intel hardware is overheating
Try and get a Rypoo CPU past 4.1 ghz and see what happens

>>60051710
So even more amazing, an 8 core 16 thread getting a 1GHz OC from stock (3Ghz) and it's only 10w over spec?

>>60051686
Turbo boost all cores is 3.6GHz on the 5820k
You're off by another 700MHz at the top from 4.0 and you're already pulling retarded amounts of power for a CPU

>>60051497
>spending $400+ when you could buy a Wii U for $200
Really makes you think.

>>60051736
stay mad
>>60051721

>>60051710
So Intel's 4 cores uses more power than their 6 cores? Makes sense>>60051474

>>60051737
>cheap hardware
>overexpensive games

Really makes you think.

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>>60051758
It's okay anon, the 340W isn't actually real, those 220W can all be attributed to the idling GPU and single SSD

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>>60051736
>Turbo boost all cores is 3.6GHz on the 5820k
nope
3.4Ghz on all 6.

>>60051802
>Windows Aero enabled
Nice fake benchmark, AMDummy.

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>>60050293

>>60051813
Where do you find these? All core turbos are impossible to find on Intel sites

>>60050293

The article calls into question whether the Coffee Lake mainstream desktop platform will continue to use the LGA 1151 socket. (Search for "LGA 1151?" in the article.)

Are you kidding me? It's almost certain the Intel will change sockets anyway when Icelake comes out in 2H 2018, because they always introduce a new socket with a new architecture. So we might get a new socket in 2H 2017 and then yet another new socket in 2H 2018? WTF?

>>60051827
>more than enough performance to game
>at 30 fps

>>60051828
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,3918.html

>>60050293
>it’s a 6 core part that features no hyper-threading
hahaHAHAHA
so that's how they avoid housefire on 6 core by gutting half cpu

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>>60051474
>meanwhile the 95W 7700k is so far over its TDP at stock it's not even funny, it should be called fraud at this point
Didn't they start fucking with the naming like "Scenario design power" or some such bullshittery? days_without_jewish_tricks.jpg

Seems like a waste of time to go for the 2 extra cores but at much lower clocks, no SMT and most likely costs significantly more than the Ryzen 5 1600.

>>60051839
>at 30 fps
That'd be the i5

>>60051839
kys faggot cuck

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>>60050962

>>60051870
SDP is only for mobile parts IIRC

>>60051880
>>60051884
>'my 120$ CPU can magically do everything a 300$ cpu can!'

As always, fanboys live in fantasyland

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>>60050293
>believing something will happen before it happens based purely on "leaks"
>suddenly pootech is acceptable
>it wasn't called currytech for the entire 3 months leading up to Ryzen launch
Ryzen leaks showed an 8c/8t processor
Look how that turned out and then fuck off.

And even if they somehow manage to release a six core for the "consumer" line, what socket will it be on?

And IF this leak is true, look at those fucking clocks. Get ready to have the same performance as Ryzen with all the bullshit of Intel.

>>60051877
BAD GOY !!!

BAD !!!

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>>60051839

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>>60051902

>>60051902
Fuck off back to /v/ now, little retard.

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>>60051902
>he got Jew'd this hard
I'm sorry you can't imagine a world where you aren't getting Jew'd

>>60051904
There's another source, and it's based on a leaked benchmark result.

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CFL is crap! Wait for Skylake-X

>>60051931
>>60051929
>>60051948
>'le merchant boogyman xD
Are you 14? Serious question

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>>60050293
>>60050293
>another overpriced fucking housefire
YES INTEL PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS, MY 2600K WILL BE RELEVANT FOREVER

Intel gives 0 Fucks

>>60051931
Shoo shoo little man

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>>60051948

>>60051962
Are you a Jew? Serious question

>>60051962
>RYZEN IS DOA LALALALALA

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>>60051880
Really?
>'B-but that benchmark d-doesn't count! muh 4k!'

>>60052000
he probably is poor jew

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>>60051959
Wait for 10nm Cannonlake.

>>60052000
No, but the fact that you are asking already shows me what an underage pleb you are

>>60052008
Are you literally fucking retarded?

>>60052025
Nice rebuttal

>>60052021
when? 2402? by than intels stock would be eaten by the jews

>>60051868
>so that's how they avoid housefire on 6 core by gutting half cpu

Yeah, but it's a i5, which never has hyperthreading anyway.

The real question is if we'll get a new i7 with 6C/12T in the Coffee Lake rollout. The table that's half-way down the article shows that the i7-8xxx will in fact be 6C/12T.

>>60052044
>i7-8xxx will in fact be 6C/12T
$1000 housefire

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>Intel's overpriced 8 core getting hammered by a competition 8 core with half the memory channels in workloads where memory bandwidth is important
>16 core and 32 core equally priced competitors are four and eight channels respectively

How can kikes even recover?

>>60052075
Who cares about that though?

For gaming it's still utter trash compared to the much cheaper 7700k

>>60052098
These are $1000-$10000 CPUs, not children toys.

Get back to /v/

>>60052075
Because the industry will still continue buying mostly intel outside of university and high level science research type shit.

>>60051795
>not realizing you can pirate Zelda on the Wii U
I'm thinking hard here.

>>60052116
The 1800x is a 1000-10000 cpu?

Did you even look at what you posted you absolute mongoloid?

>>60052140
you failed at thinking

>>60052124
>less I/O
>less cores
>lower clocks
>higher power consumption
>less bandwidth
>less DIMMs

I'm sure they will.

>>60052021
>Wait for 10nm Cannonlake.

I'm waiting for the 7nm shrink after Tigerlake.

I'll probably be keeping my Ivy Bridge about 9 or 10 years total.

With Intel unable to increase single-thread performance by even 5% per year, it's just not worth it to upgrade any earlier.

99% of the time, most of my 8 threads are just sitting there idle, so single-thread performance is really the only thing it makes sense for me to care about.

>>60052153
>>less cores
>>lower clocks
still higher IPC.

>>60052153
Considering the fairly longstanding history of intel dominance in most of the higher end markets, i dont expect that to change overnight, and intel has the true high end space fully locked down because they're the only ones offering custom FPGA's integrated with CPUs for customers like amazon, ebay, etc.

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>>60051955
>"leaked" "benchmark" """"result""""
If I were you, I'd sincerely hope these 2 "sources" aren't real. Because as it stands, this processor should cost more than the 7700k because it has two more physical cores, but it'll have less threads and further reduced performance due to being over an entire 1GHz slower than what most 7700ks can reach (check silicon lottery).

>meanwhile over at AMD
>6c/12t 3.6-4.0 249.99
THE POOJEETS PUT THE JEWS ON SUICIDE WATCH.

>>60052150
I'm not the considering upgrading my CPU to get better performance on a 30FPS locked game on a alpha emulator.

>>60052169
Compared to Bulldozer, yes.

>>60050293
Corelets, when will they ever learn?

>>60052198
guess your right.

>>60052215
Corelets are cpu's that can't oc past 4.1 ghz

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>>60052169
Haha, no.
And whatever marginal IPC benefit Intel may or may not have in non-gaming work is offset by lower clocks.

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>>60052023
>said the Jew, having been exposed in the middle of his shilling

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>>60052074

I don't care. All I want is a 7700k with 6 cores at 5 GHz. If 300w power draw and risk of nuclear scale conflagration is the price then so be it.

>>60052239
>"Le epic merchant boogyman xdeeeee"!
Go play with your lego little man

>>60052225
MOAR GIGAHURTZ

lol gtfo with your pentium 4 retardation

Ryzen is smoother in gayming despite having lower clocks because Intel arch is stuttery garbage

>>60052266
Your whole post is a meme, gtfo

>>60052190
>they're the only ones offering custom FPGA's integrated with CPUs
yup, Intel is king in pretty much any sector that can afford custom FPGA hardware.

Their acquisition of Altera is going to pay off in the long term.

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>>60052259
Go play with your menorah Shlomo

http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#829

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>>60052244
>7700k with 6 cores at 5 GHz

>>60052283
Shoo shoo, little man

>>60052278
Memes are real.

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>>60052244
Checked

>>60052313
Yes Ryzen is real

>>60052292
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW, GOY

>>60050293
>Intel's first X

buzzwords. haswell and broadwell e have 6+ cores...

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>>60052021
10nm has already been confirmed to be slower than 14mn
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3186781/processors/intels-cannonlake-pc-chip-shipments-may-slip-into-next-year.html
>The first 10-nm Cannonlake chips will be slower than 14-nm 8th Generation Core processors. Intel acknowledged

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>>60052305
>calling anyone a little man while shit-posting on 4chan
That's not how that works kike.

>>60052354
I'm shitposting?

All you are doing is posting pictures of happy merchants and you think this constitutes an actual argument.

I'm sure that would seem to a good argument for someone that is still in highschool

>>60050293
>no HT
>no Turbo
Wtf, they couldn't even beat amd's 8 core clocks with a 6 core?

>>60052353
POOTEL STUTTERING HOUSEFIRES

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>>60052382
And all you're doing is commenting about my shitposting. So you're right, you're not shitposting; You're doing something worse than shitposting
Shitposting-shitposting.

>>60052443
Sure kid

>>60050870
Will probrably oc to 5ghz as well. So 6c 5ghz wins over 8c 4ghz and day.

>>60052465
>5GHz
On LN2 maybe

>>60052323
Reality is the best meme

>>60052350
This is their first consumer oriented/branded 6 core, the others were "enthuuuuusiast"

>>60051327
No 6xxx or 7xxx. No r7.
Just stop.

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>>60052098
>utter trash compared
>15 extra FPS at 100+ FPS
>Much cheaper
>After factoring in delid dis kit, watercooling, expensive motherboard

>>60051737
Wii u doesn't fit in my pocket.

>>60052153
You forgot
>higher price

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>>60052225
AHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

>>60052244
>If 300w power draw and risk of nuclear scale conflagration is the price then so be it.
Not even the full retard FX 9590 went that far.

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>>60051686
>>60051572
>>60051721
Holy shit, how much do you get payed for this?

>>60050293
RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
>RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
>RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
>RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN
>RELEASE SKYLAKE AGAIN

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>>60052465
>Intelcucks are this fucking stupid

get the fuck in here
>>60051537
>>60051537
>>60051537
>>60051537
>>60051537
>>60051537

>>60052558
That bench was made in 2014. And the R7 doesn't need to be on there because it absolutely destroys Intel's housefires on TDP. It's so efficient it's kind of ridiculous.

>>60052598
>much cheaper
Which cpu's are you actualy comparing?

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>>60052659
Stay mad 4.1 ghz corelet

>>60053055
>m-maybe if i repeat it enough, it'll magically change the definition!

>>60053069
No amount of greentexting is going to get you out of this corelet

>>60053038
1700/1700X are cheaper once you factor in all that shit.

>>60053102
Cheaper than what, what shit?

>>60053093
Kill yourself.

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>>60053127
Top kek, get a load of this assmad corelet

How is that 2008 corespeed treating you?

Should still be a significant leap from 7700k full bore in R15. Something like 1350 (from 1150)

>>60052659
I''ve had a 6c/12t Intel for almost 2 years now though that I paid only $290 for.

I had no reason to wait an extra 18 months for ryzen.

>>60050293
>hyperthreading was a mistake
>turbo boost was a mistake

really makes you think

>>60053161
That is a pitiful improvement for 2 extra cores.
>>60053168
Nobody cares about one-offs like you who got lucky and bought Intel's overpriced shit for cheap. Ryzen brought it to the masses. Intel is now irrelevant.

>no hyper threading
Fuck you, jewtel

>>60053146
ryzen launch brought out most retarded of intelshills out
even people that genuinely like intel do not fall that far

best launch in recent 15 years

>>60053161
All the results for Cinebench I can find for the i7-7700K are in the 950 to 1000's. Where are you getting 1150 from?

sounds like intels version of bulldozer
what the fuck are they doing?

>>60053496
What they should have done is had their new architecture ready by now. What they're doing now is damage control. Really bad damage control by the looks of it.

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>average performance :|

>>60054820
:|

>>60053496
Focusing on IoT and hiring a blacker and queerer Chief Diversity Officer.

>>60053306
That's all fine and well, but your cpu still ain't clocking higher than 4.1 ghz

>The Intel Core i5-7640K processor will be the first instance of a Core i5 chip on the HEDT platform. This chip features a quad coredesign along with four threads. The chip is based on the latest 14nm+ process node which delivers improved efficiency and performance on the existing 14nm FinFET technology. The clock speeds are rated 4.0 GHz base but boost would be beyond 4 GHz. The processor packs 6 MB of L3 cache. The TDP is rated at 112W, just like the Core i7 processor in the Kaby Lake-X family

The fuck are they doing???

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>>60054820
>:|

>>60054980
>muh clocks
Nobody cares, fuck off. Even Intel is abandoning you for MOAR CORES, so get used to it, faggot.

>>60055029
>Nobody cares, fuck off
You seem to care

>>60054983
who will buy it? who is this overly expensive, no hyper threading, 4 core with measly 6mb L3 for?
has marketing forgot about 4c xeons?

>>60055042
I care about you fucking off forever because constantly jerking off about clockspeeds is a dead-end in terms of performance.

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>>60054983
>The fuck are they doing???

Being retarded.

>>60055062
>clockspeeds is a dead-end in terms of performance.
>Whatever AMD doesn't have is a dead-end in terms of performance
sure kid

>>60054983
>>60055057
>100 MHz speed-bumps

Impressive, maybe they can get 3 more FPS in some poorly optimized shitshow of a game.

>>60055080
Kill yourself.

>>60052008
R5 vs i7. Too afraid to see what an r7 can do?

>>60055112
Forgot your glasses Rajan?

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>>60055105
>4.1 ghz

>>60055112
Unless the game uses more than 6 cores the 1600X will do the same as the 1800X due to same clocks

>>60055146
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu-review/ "the majority of users should find that an eight core, sixteen thread, AMD Ryzen processor will achieve 4.2 GHz at a core voltage of 1.45 V."
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-overclocked-benchmark-results-at-4-2ghz_193599
http://www.thetechrevolutionist.com/2017/04/ryzen-5-1600x-overclocked-at-42ghzair.html

Oops. Looks like you're a huge fag.

>>60055154
not quite.

half the benefit of higher core counts for multi-purpose machines is that you can leave whatever the fuck you want running in the background and not worry about having random frame drops.

even in poorly threaded games R7 chips can get better 1%/0.1%/whatever frame times than 7700k because of it.

Intel is fucking done if this is the best they could come up with.

>>60055234
An r5 has way more than enough threads to eat away any retarded nonsense Windows does in the background.

>>60055242
Wait for their new arch to come out in 2021.

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>>60055231
>4.2 GHz at a core voltage of 1.45 V
That's amazing!

>>60055234
>even in poorly threaded games R7 chips can get better 1%/0.1%/whatever frame times than 7700k because of it.

Lets see some evidence of that

>>60050293
>six core
>no hyperthreading
>i5

nigga I got two X5650s running in my PC from 2010. You're going to have to try harder than that.

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>>60055261

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>>60055261

>>60055311
Niggah please, even old Sandy Brige-e 3930k's do 4.5 ghz easily. Those things are 6 years old.

Now compare that to the 1600x, a brand new architecture that won't even go past 4.2 ghz with 1.45v lol

>>60055301
Hardly, the argument was that Ryzen clockspeeds can't be oc'd high, 4.1 ghz or 4.2 ghz doesn't change that fact

>>60055346
So Intel's architectures get worse over time? Considering their latest and greatest Broadwell-E can't hit over 4.2 reliably, Got it.

>>60055346
>Muh giggahurtz is the only thing that matters in a processor
What year is it? 2004?

>>60055346
My Pentium 4 could hit 6GHz.

>>60055374
In terms of overclocking yes, I wouldn't dispute the fact that they have degraded the thermal interface between the die and the headspreader since Sandy bridge.

What's more interesting though is that even Ryzens quad cores can't get past 4.2 ghz, while Intel's even with shitty paste almost hit 5 ghz.

>>60055391
Nowhere did I say it is the only thing that matters, I said it matters.

Are you implying it doesn't matter?

>>60055418
Because all Ryzens out at the moment are made from the same die.
That's not surprising at all.

>>60051716
can't get to 80c (20c delta on reporting before a microcode update, so anything that says 90c+ is actually 70c+) but ymmv on being able to boot, though not due to thermals.

I'm lucky enough to hold 4.2GHz at only 1.385v with mine, and temps aren't bad, with 29c idle and 76c full load. (CM Hyper 212X)

>>60055346
1600X hit 4.2GHz at 1.4v
>>60055418
You're still a useless retard. The fact it's a brand new arch means it won't OC as well.

>>60055450
Still not a very impressive OC would you not say?

>>60055418
>I wouldn't dispute the fact that they have degraded the thermal interface between the die and the headspreader since Sandy bridge
But all of the 2011/2011-v3 CPUs are soldered, so...

>tfw you were born too early to ever witness 1thz processors

>>60055453
>The fact it's a brand new arch means it won't OC as well.
Sandy brige was a brand new architecture and it's known for it's fantastic overclocking capabilities.

Just leave you tech illiterate mong

>>60055483
Wait for graphmeme™.

>>60055478
Exactly

>>60055483
What would you even do with all those hertz?

> subhumans crying death of brands
If amd wasn't a thing we would be paying 1500 bucks for pentium 4 revamps every year

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I'm considering moving to a 1600 instead of a 1700 just for higher clocks for emulation. However, I compile every day and sometimes stream, so more cores would be a godsend. Should I go with the 1700 instead? My reason for going with the 1600 is to be a little conservative now and then go all with 7nm Zen+, but maybe the 1700 is good enough for shit like dolphin and PCSX2. Ivy Bridge does well at 4.3GHz, 3.8GHz on Ryzen should be fine since it has about Broadwell-E IPC, right?

>>60055486
different architectures clock differently
Also, ryzen outperforms Sandy Bridge at the same clocks. It doesn't need to clock as high.

>>60055574
Dolphin and PCSX2 aren't even that demanding anymore. CEmu is pretty demanding but it's also in alpha state.

>>60055499
>yfw some unknown startup just comes out of the blue one quarter with fully functional graphene chips

>>60055595
>Also, ryzen outperforms Sandy Bridge at the same clocks

Yes, 6 years later.

Not to mention outperforming at the same clocks doesn't matter when your competitor can outclock you.

>>60055486
It was refined Nehalem.

>>60055653
I'm guessing SB outperformed everything including Skylake as well.

Get your head out of your ass.

>>60055669
Oh fuck off already you can't be serious

>>60055653
>Intel kept releasing worse cpus than sandy bridge for over 6 years

lmao intel

>>60055675
I never said that

A 4.7 ghz SB still outperforms Ryzen in the majority of games though

>>60055653
>Yes, 6 years later.
So? It's supposed to be a bad thing? the fuck are you on about you autist

>Not to mention outperforming at the same clocks doesn't matter when your competitor can outclock you.
>being better doesn't matter if you don't run as hot!
you're pretty stupid anon

>>60055706
You did, SB clocks higher than anything but Kabylake, and even that's a tie unless you delid and watercool the Kabylake.

>>60055702
If that is your understand of reality I feel sorry for you

>>60055727
Wrong.. Skylake core is over 40% faster than SandyBrdige, Skylake 3.5GHz is as fast as SB at 5.0

>>60055727
No I didn't

Haswell, Skylake all reach 4.5 ghz easily.

With IPC improvements 4.5-4.7 ghz on SB still puts it below that.

Ivy bridge would be the exception, it's basicaly just a SB cpu with slightly less OC headroom but much less powerdraw

>>60050293
Intel is pretty much giving up their single core advantage with this move to 6 cores on mainstream platforms. What will the gaymurrs brag about now? Has Intel truly abandoned the idiots obsessed with clockspeed? Will i3's still have 2 cores? (maybe 3? lol)

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>>60055754

>>60055754
>Skylake core is over 40% faster than SandyBrdige

Wow, we found it, it's the one actual retard stupid enough to believe Intel's marketing bullshit.

>>60055776
No they haven't.

Are you guys actualy so fucking retarded that one unconfirmed leak will convince you that Intel is dropping their best selling consumer-CPU line?

>>60055770
So basically everything besides Kabylake overclocks worse and 5% IPC increase is barely enough to say performance has improved by a grand total of 10% after 6 years.

>>60055754
Nigga please, it's more around 20% which is terrible considering the amount of time they have been working on it.

>>60055754
>Skylake core is over 40% faster than SandyBrdige
In a single Intel sponsored benchmark, maybe. In general use, it's closer to 20% if that.

>>60055833
And the only one to blame for that is AMD and their incompetence in the cpu-market for the past 6 years

>>60055848
Oh how cute, you think Intel has anything new until 2021.
You're stuck at 2-3% IPC increases for the next 4 years.

>>60055848
>It's all AMD's fault! They should be able to beat two larger companies at the same time despite both of them constantly pulling dirty tricks!

Kill yourself.

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>>60055848
but it's intel that caused this by bribing OEMs and the intel compiler degrading performance on non-intel cpus, anon
amd was supposed to win with Athlon 64

>>60055812
Who said anything about dropping? They're certainly changing it.

>>60055865
>>60055887
It is what companies in a monopoly position do.

Are you really so naieve to think that if the roles were reversed AMD, a company also led by stockholders who value profit over everything else, would not do exactly the same?

When there is no competition you are free to milk the market with incremental upgrades at high prices.

Yes, I stand by my statement that AMD's incompetence is to blame.

>>60055924
>They're certainly changing it.
Save for releasing a dual core with HT there is no indication they are

>>60055950
>what ifs

That's not how it works.
Though I agree if AMD was in Intel's position they'd probably do the same, but that's still a what if, it never happened

>>60055574
>Emulation
Dude I can perfectly emulate games with a Q9300.

>>60055950
>Yes, I stand by my statement that AMD's incompetence is to blame.
then you're stupid

>>60055984
Can you run The Last Story?
I'm also hype with RPCS3's progress this year and the fact that it can scale with cores: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Oq5O7uX0E

>>60055950
Intel's Core arch is very old, there's not enough to squeeze out of it, at this point it's basically perfected, and that's not changing until Intel's new x86 arch in 2020/21
Difference is Zen is far from it and has way more room to breathe, so 10-15% IPC increase even next year is far from unrealistic.

>>60055961
Intel is going full cores and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

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What happened to you don't need an i7 to game last year, to YOU NEED AT LEAST 12 THREADS FOR 30 FPS!

I'm sure it'll be better in the future (just like the Q6600 was better than the E8400 at the time..oh wait). But to say that every i5 is shit is kinda silly to say, when most of the high clocked i5's perform similar to the ryzen platform.

I'm sure Ryzen is really good, but there's no need for people with high clocked i5's or i7's to upgrade if their primary goal is to game.

Inb4 comment on how you cannot run anything in the background on an i5, that's just bullshit, I'm running sandboxie, a bunch of chrome tabs, disk sentinel, RME fireface audio interface, and the gigabyte app center (not even mentioning steam). with little to no impact in games.

>>60056172
It's already hitting 100% in modern games. What happens a year from now? Think you can go up to 125%?

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>>60056172
You don't need to upgrade right now if you can do everything. Be wary that 4cores will get fucked over, I can see 2018 being the year to ditch quadcores with the adoption of DX12 and Vulkan rising plus more PC ports from 8 core consoles.

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>>60056172

wrong picture

>>60056172
There's no need to upgrade for i5 owners, but then again nobody will even look at the i5 when using an older machine now.

>>60056197

The only game I've been hitting 100% is AOTS benchmark, hell even in novigrad i rarely drop below 60.

>>60056222
I forgot to mention it, but look at the CPU usage on some modern games. Even the 7700k is almost at its limit in usage while the 6 to 8 core parts have much headroom left.
If you're building a computer from scratch right now, going with a quad core is a retarded idea.

>>60056228

I do agree that i5's have been made pointless now, but I see tons of people upgrading to a 1500X-1600X from an i5, even when they're using a trash GPU like a 470/480/1060, when they could much rather get a proper card like 1070 instead of buying a whole new mobo, and lets not forget the 3200C14 memory that ryzen needs to truly shine (it's expensive).

>>60056294
>and lets not forget the 3200C14 memory that ryzen needs to truly shine (it's expensive).
it doesn't need it. It loves it, but it doesn't need it to be good.

>>60056294
That's just for gaming, in any kind of productivity the r5 demolishes the i5s
Plus the AM4 socket is gonna be usable with 4th gen Zen CPUs, so no real loss there

>>60056294
>a trash GPU like a 470/480/1060
Here we fucking go. Those are all great cards. Enjoy getting fucked by retarded prices for negligible performance gains. Going UHD is stupid, wait for multiple small GPUs from Navi or Volta for that. 1440p at high refreshes can't be done perfectly with no single GPU yet, so it's better to wait. I can see why you would pick a 1070 for 1440p 60HZ, but even then, a highly clocked 480//580 is no slouch, it gets close and even surpases the vanilla Fury at times.

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>>60056350

And when it's not using it, it takes a huge chunk of the FPS.

>>60056364
I have a 480 myself idiot. I'm jus saying money could be better spent, and 1440p can be done fine at high refresh rates with a 1080/1080 ti.

The 1070 is almost 50% faster.

>>60056358

>any kind

It's slower in everything that's not heavily threaded.

>>60056466
Keep living in an alternate reality.

>>60055975
What do you mean that's not how it works? It's what commercial companies in monopoly positions have always done.
>>60056068
And why is that?

>>60056169
Yeah...no

>>60056615
> ignores the low clocked mainstream hexacore in the OP


Intelfags have invented a new reality distortion field that rivals that of Applefags