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Front-runner Macron wants encryption backdoors to fight terrorism

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>French centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron has launched his presidential campaign with a plan to tackle terrorism by forcing internet firms to release encrypted messages.

>Speaking at his Paris launch, Mr Macron said he wants to legally compel social media companies to give authorities access to encrypted messages between terror suspects.

>Mr Macron, a former Rothschild investment banker, is running for his self-created En Marche (Onwards) party.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39555125
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How many scandals does it take before politicians realize backdoors aren't the smartest thing to do?

Even if they can read and review all messages that doesn't mean they can prevent anything.
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>forcing internet firms to release encrypted messages.
That's not an encryption backdoor.
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>>60048825
>Russia putting in that work
I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.
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>>60048825
>>Mr Macron, a former Rothschild investment banker
I wonder who's behind this campaign.
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"Democratic states must have access to content exchanged between terrorists on social media and instant messaging"

This is getting dangerously close to /pol/ territory, but holy shit what a fucking cuck.
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>>60048841
Explain how they would do it otherwise then.
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>>60048841
If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, flies like a duck, then it is a duck.
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>>60048883
You go to the company, tell them to use their keys to open up your messages and then hand them over in plain text. Most message encryption is not end-to-end and just encrypted during transmission.
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You just look at the server, grab the encrypted messages that are there anyway, and release them without decrypting them. Accessing your own files isn't a backdoor, it would only be a backdoor if they're required to release decrypted messages.
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>>60048855
he added the Rothchild bit so /pol/ can go crazy, there is no known link with Macron and the Rothschilds
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>>60048896
Guess so, should've read the source if I actually cared. Wouldn't have surprised me though.
Same for that other candidate though.
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>>60048892
Oh, so it's a frontdoor then?

Somehow, that doesn't sound too reassuring.
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>>60048892
This is correct. Google Hangouts only encrypts on the transport and Facebook messenger doesn't encrypt by default (it has a feature called Secret conversations that end-to-end encrypts on the device side but it's an option and not enabled by default).

If you passed a law that a backdoor is required companies could either decrypt on their side or insert blocks/loopholes in local device encryption, else those services wouldn't be legal to operate in whatever country outlawed it.
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>>60048894
Meant for >>60048883
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>>60048913
Then use strong end-to-end encryption. As far as I can tell, they are not demanding to make strong encryption illegal. Install GPG, send encrypted emails.
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>outlawing math
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>>60048930
USA has outlawed exporting math.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States
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>>60048896
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>>60048929
>Then use strong end-to-end encryption.
>yes goy, draw attention to yourself
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>>60048825
>we believe that terrorists have used toilets to communicate, and thus we are installing cameras in all public and private toilets
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>>60048960
Why would you draw attention to yourself? I mean, besides in the US where they perform mass surveillance on their citizens.
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>>60048930
Yeah, only murricans are stupid enough to do that.
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I have a better idea, just start closing all mosques and expel all sandniggers from western countries
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>>60049027
Edgy.
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>>60049031
not in a slightest
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>>60049027

You must be 18 to post comments on this blog, lad.
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>>60048825
Why not just kick out all the shitskins instead?
Go le pen
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>>60049027
>sandniggers

That includes the jews, are you antisemantic or something, anon?
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>>60049246
Your israel puppet politician doesn't want to kick Muslims, she wants to integrate them into Europe. Alt-right fags are so pathetic.
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>>60048825
This with this sweet guy when?
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https://stallman.org/french-puns.html
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>>60049353

OY VEYZMIR
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>>60049673
I made the same puns when i was 7 years old.
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>>60049704
Ok.
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NOTHING TO HIDE NOTHING TO FEAR
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>>60049375
>alt-right
>real
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>centrist
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>>60048825
Any encryption standard with a backdoor isn't encryption at all. People will just continue to use AES anyway, there is no reason to willingly use a method that has a backdoor when AES256 will take something like a hundred trillion years to bruteforce on average (not that bruteforcing is in any way ideal in breaking encryption, just using it as an example).

This shit will always just be government posturing, they have zero capability of actually enforcing this.
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Why do we have to fight the same struggler over and over again?
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Terrorists would just send encrypted messages on top of the already existing normal encryption

so even if they get access to the messages without encryption, what they will find is just another layer of encryption
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>>60048825
An Le pen stance?
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>>60050511
>good luck, I'm behind 7 encryptions
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>>60050441
jews
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>>60048896
I hope you kikes will be used as fuel for our power plants.
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>>60049027

This would work, 2bh
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He's more pro-free market than Le Pen, and hence I'm voting for him.

Stay mad, alt-right.
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>>60048825
Kinda wish the moohammoods would blow up one of their priceless landmarks so they'd start giving a fuck about their country.
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>>60048825
>>60048947
N..not like Le Pen is a literal jew though
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>>60049031
>>60049038
fuck off reddit
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>>60051006
Good let's see the free market work for you when you get torn to pieces by an incoming truck
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>>60051006
>free market
when will this meme die
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LE PEN
E

P
E
N
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>>60048825
France you had one chance.
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>>60051038
Arc de Mohammad. :^)
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>>60051621
Rare pics of two autists interacting in the wild.
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>>60050511
>Terrorists would just send encrypted messages on top of the already existing normal encryption
Or you know, they won't. The terrorists that did the November 2015 Paris attacks apparently just sent text messages to each other.
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>>60048825
>Destroying civil liberties for increased security
How about kicking out all Muslims and any other religious extremist groups?
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>>60048855
probably aliens
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>>60052214
>freedoms
>kicking people out
Choose one.
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>>60048896

Except he literally worked for them
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>>60052238
>sand monkeys that refuse to integrate
>worthy of rights
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>>60048836
Thousands of mudsl- I mean perfectly integrated French citizens are on the watchlist of potential terrorists yet entirely free. Macron doesn' seem to "know" that arresting or deporting all of them can be done overnight and solve all problems. It must be racist or something.

The political left is a mental illness.
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>>60050521
she, and her voters, are too much of a morons to understand any of this and why is it important.
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>>60052306
>racists
>worthy of rights
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>>60052325
>too much of a morons
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>>60052364
t. Ahmed al Muhammad
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>>60048825
Fuck him then
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>>60052307
You're not wrong but

>implying politicians on the right aren't just as willing to destroy free speech due to "terrorism?
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>>60048825
>Front-runner
>Implying Le Pen isn't going to win and kick all the Muslim scum out
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>>60052376
it was
>she is too much of a moron to understand any of this and why is it important.
and i forgot to change that part when i added "and her voters"
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>>60052307
>>60052214
This place used to be aware that those attacks are false flags perpetrated by the Mossad.

What happened to 4chan?
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>>60052475
Reminder.
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>>60052475
>standing up for mudshits
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>>60052214
>le pen
>"LET'S JUST SHUT THE INTERNET DOWN!"

>macron
>"how about a bit stricter rule, mkay?"

wow, it's so hard
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>>60052459
>someone who believes islam is a "religion of peace" calling others morons

Also, if you support someone openly anti-privacy over someone who simply hasn't made a statement about it, then you must have been a trump supporter, right? His opponents never took a stance on this issue, so were they just too stupid to realize it's important?
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>>60052541
Nice red herring, but you're blurring two problems here.

One is terrorism. Another is immigration.

Just because I'm pointing out that Mossad is behind terrorism, doesn't mean I'm defending Muslims.

Anyone who's been to pre-2015 /pol/ knows you neocon and alt-right shills are wrong, we've been attacking Islam forever.

The difference is we've never bowed before the kikes.

Now fuck off.
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>>60052307
>macron
>left
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>>60052635
>Islam is shit because of the west

drink bleach faggot
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He's an investment banker. I'm certain that he understands the value and the need of strong encryption.

I imagine this is just to rally supporters.
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>>60052669
Because I totally said that.
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>>60052580
i like how my dislike for le pen and her moron voters somehow make me a macron supporter. what if i dislike both candidates? is that possible in your narrow minded worldview?

moron
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>>60052669

>jews
>part of the West
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>>60052745
>we've been attacking Islam
>we
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>>60052669
No, Islam is shit anyway, but it only has the power to do the shit it's been doing because the West's been feeding it funds, training, supports and weapons.

Expelling mudslimes, while a necessity, won't solve the terrorism problem. Only a change in foreign policy will.

Stay mad, neocon.

>>60052769
>we
LMAO nice Freudian slip, you just admitted you're a kike!
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>>60051006
I guess you're just gonna have to get used to terror attacks then. Oh well.
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>>60052806

Damn, Redpanels is dumb! Everytime I see one of her comics I feel mad!
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>>60052829
Actually...
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/24/france-presidential-hopeful-macron-pushes-for-syria-talks.html
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>>60052833
>her
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>>60052806
keep the 3rd world in the 3rd world and let them all kill each other for all I care
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>>60052142
>it's not on a "as needed basis"
If they make it so you have to encrypt to get away with it, then that's what they'll do.
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>>60052833
But that's literally what happened.

>>60052846
Yeah we'll see how long he keeps up that narrative. Like how Trump wanted to "talk" to Kim but now wants to obliterate him?

He will switch just like every politician.
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>>60052806
>redpanels

now you really need to go back to the place where you should belong

>>>/pol/
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>>60052833
>>60052897
>>>/tumblr/
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>>60052878
>but that's literally what happened
No it isn't, dumb alt-rightist. Obama pulled out and made room for ISIS, that's what happened and enabled them. And Al-Qaeda was armed by the Russians. Read a book for once, Geez!
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>>60052952
>this is what neocons actually believe
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>>60048853
Once again Macron is NOT a Russian candidate
Le Pen is
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>centrist
>wants backdoor encryption
Hmmmmmm
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>>60053364
this Russian retardation is only causing people to not vote for you, FYI
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>>60053364
Le Penis
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>>60048825
Seems like everyone who runs for any kind of office is a flaming asshole
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>>60052364
>Islam is a race not a cancerous ideology
>Btw lets ignore all the problems it causes around the world because #NotAllGoatFuckers
The left is so fucking stupid I don't see them being relevant for 30 years. They just lost their fucking minds to the point where they attack the working classes that supported them. Good riddance.
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>>60054819
I'll believe this is not about race the day I see you complaining about Bosnian Moslems and Indonesian Moslems too and stop using the n-word to refer to them.
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>>60055027
Because it's mostly Arab Muslims along with Turkish Muslims that are causing problems in Europe. The Bosnians and Indonesians keep to themselves and I don't care what they do in their country. I have theis exact complaint with the Uyghurs, Asiatic Muslims, and their non-compliance (and At times outright terrorism) to be a part of Chinese culture. Fortunately, China is taking the right steps with these idiots and forcing them to be civilized if they don't want to be ostracized from society, better than most European states' response of do nothing while Jafar transforms into Optimus Prime and runs over 80 people, even though he had took welfare from the state.
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>>60055351
>i-it's not because they are brown and I'm scared of brown people guys, I-I swear!
European Christians caused problems in their lands first, you ignoramus. No one is falling for your bullshit.
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>>60055396
>European Christians caused problems in their lands first
Nicely memed.
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>>60055474
The refugees are escaping a war that is the direct result of Western interventionism in the Middle East. Try reading a book or a newspaper anytime.
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>>60055396
Yeah, 500 or so years ago and it surprisingly died down very quickly. You can't blame the problems on Christians when the majority of Europe's population is secular. Also, remember it was the Germans who did shit like Jafar and his friends are doing now during the fall of the Roman Empire and they weren't exactly brown were they? I'm just saying, savages shouldn't be a part of civil society and Islam promotes savage behavior. It's not a race problem as you are trying to frame it. It's a problem of why is France and other Western European countries taking in religious zealots who have no respect for the native culture and are leeches in general?
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>>60055573
Pic related wasn't 500 years ago. You racists are the savages.
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>>60055609
But that wasn't directly the result of Christianity, retard. It was the result of being the warden of a prison
>The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was an attempt to investigate the psychological effects of perceived power, focusing on the struggle between prisoners and prison guards. It was conducted at Stanford University on August 14–20, 1971, by a research group led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo using college students.[1] It was funded by the U.S. Office of Naval Research[2] as an investigation into the causes of difficulties between guards and prisoners in the United States Navy and United States Marine Corps. The experiment is a topic covered in most introductory psychology textbooks.[3]

>Some participants developed their roles as the guards enforced authoritarian measures and ultimately subjected some prisoners to psychological torture. Many of the prisoners passively accepted psychological abuse and, by the guards' request, actively harassed other prisoners who tried to stop it. Zimbardo, in his role as the superintendent, allowed abuse to continue.[4][5] Two of the prisoners left mid-experiment, and the whole exercise was abandoned after six days following the objections of graduate student Christina Maslach, whom Zimbardo was dating (and later married). Certain portions of the experiment were filmed, and excerpts of footage are publicly available.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
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>>60055688
Also note that these were relatively SANE college students in this study. So when a literal sociopath is given a position of power over prisoners, no shit they're going to abuse the fuck out of it, moreso than even what a sane person would.
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>>60055688
>But that wasn't directly the result of Christianity
But I'm just using the very same reasoning you do, anon.

Your logic is that all their actions are a result of their religion, namely Islam. Therefore, the West's actions are a result of Christianity.

What? They aren't? Well, then neither are theirs because of Islam. Hence, you must have other reasons for your prejudice. The only thing remaining is race. Therefore, you are racists.

There goes your excuse. You are racists.
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>>60055774

Oh snap!

Racists BTFO!
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