Can /g/ explain why Windows 10 is bad without using memes such

>>60039084
It's not "bad"

So much as it's a further step in the wrong direction and 8.1 is better.

MS are getting their act together but my main problems with it are related to the inconsistent UI, two control panels and bugs related to said shit AI.

I work on a help desk and I've had to repair more windows 10 installs, where the explorer process claimed to be running but the start menu was completely inoperable, then I would care to remember.

>>60039084
>Reasons why windows sucks
NTFS is by far the worst modern file system
You can't change the Desktop environment or the window manager
It for some weird reason becomes slower the more programs you install
It doesn't have a package manager
It's more prone to viruses
Full Disk encryption is much worse than with any other platform
Less secure overall even when discounting botnet shit
That's all I can think of of the top of my head but there are many more.

i just like using linux more

My desktop crashed today.

I can not make this up, it went all white, then went back to my normal shit. Before it was all white, it was unresponsive.

>>60039184
>NTFS is by far the worst modern file system
citation needed

>You can't change the Desktop environment or the window manager
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_shells_for_Windows

>It for some weird reason becomes slower the more programs you install
if you are using low rpm hdd only or not ssd, its same in linux but you are in placebo effect so you can't actually see or feel it.

>It doesn't have a package manager
not needed

>It's more prone to viruses
Yes because its most used operating system so, also use CommonSense 2017 antivirus

>Full Disk encryption is much worse than with any other platform
does it get the job done? everything else irrevelant

>Less secure overall even when discounting botnet shit
citation needed

>>60039084
>can /g/ explain why x is shit without mentioning why x is shit
fuck off faggot

>Explain why something is bad without using reasons for it being bad

>>60039084
"muh privacy" and "dem ebil jews are stealing muh porn folders" is the reason win10 is bad.
Do you enjoy being anally raped?

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>>60039431
>>60039554
>>60039599
Not an argument.

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>>60039084
>jews
>stealing porn folders
>not filling them

>"You need to restart your computer to apply this settings change. Restarting..."
>"Program successfully installed. You need to restart your computer to complete the installation. Restarting..."
>forced restart to apply updates
>can't use your computer while installing updates; have to sit there and stare at the screen as it installs them
>"we couldn't complete the updates, undoing changes..."
>"restarting..."
>have to disable critical security updates just to make the system usable
>but it will only be usable for a week because Windows has more holes than swiss cheese
>still need an anti-virus
>still need to defrag occasionally
>still need to reinstall Windows regularly due to windows rot (this is arguable, some people say that you won't get windows rot if you use you take precautions, but no such measure are required on other operating systems)
>BSOD- It is NEVER acceptable to let the entire operating system crash when a single application causes a problem, yet Windows allows it.
>can't change the Desktop UI without some broken hacky shit
>can't customize anything outside of what Microsoft "allows"; it's Microsoft's computer for as long as Windows is installed on it
>ads in file manager
>ads in settings UI
>ads in start menu

>>60039354
not sure if trolling or retarded

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>>60039646
>>60039084
post moar lain plz

>>60039354
>>NTFS is by far the worst modern file system
>citation needed
Are you sure about that?

But it does suck having almost no control or info about updates. Of course, I'm supposed to trust Microsoft but it don't.

>>60039084
They're putting more between the user and the machine. The shiny new GUI panels for the control panel and shit like that is great for normies but not for us autists who want to have to know what's going on underneath. You're never going to crack open the cmd and start editing config files on win 10.

Basically, windows 10 =/= Arch Linux.
It just works. If it ain't broken, you can't fix it and it's not interesting.

>>60039084
>memes such as "muh privacy"
welcome to /g/

SOUND TROUBLESHOOTING A SHIT

>>60039698
How will winshills ever recover (if they can even read more than 5 lines)

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>"Just word from Stallman. Activate the Windows 10 Home Edition"

>>60039127
I also work helpdesk. That issue only happens to me with "upgrades". We don't upgrade any more, only clean installs.

>>60039844
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Microsoft not publish a KB (whatever that is) article for every update?

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>>60039084
>Muh freedoms

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>>60039698
>things that never happened for 500 alex

Are any of you managing your Windows clients with Windows Server?

It's not that bad. But I do find that I have to do a system cleanup every 6 months or so. Check updates, defrag, uninstall programs I don't use anymore, look through the startup programs list, etc. But I also crack my machine open a couple times a year to clean the dust out.
Other than basic maintenance, I haven't had problems with windows 10.

>>60039833
he got all those from here:
https://fauux.neocities.org/

them evil botnets stealing muh private jewish porn folders

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>>60042119
holy fuckin shit
I think Im epileptic now

>Explain why x is bad without explaining the reasons it's bad

Yes anon WITHOUT crippling security issues and privacy breeches, it's not awful!

>>60039084
It's Windows (NT).

>>60040696
>things that still happen on windows
hahaha you fucking winfags are literal fucking plebs. These are not issues on every other OS but they are on your shitty little toy OS that you use to turn your computer into a glorified gaming console. kys

>privacy is a meme

Just fucking kill yourself.

The business model has changed to 'software as a service'. This isn't too bad by itself, but the consequence of the change meant certain items such as Windows Update, various programmes, and advertising are delivered in a way that takes much of the previous control that users had, and revokes it.

There's also that hardware bullshit, too, but that's intuitively fucking gross.

>>60039084
It's an eternal beta. MS fired the testers.
>memes such as "muh privacy"
You're a shortsighted retard.

>>60040694
is that sam hyde?

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>>60039084
To simply sum it, other than the privacy concerns, the biggest reason I think most people abhor windows 10 is the "Microsoft knows what's best for you, so we'll handle everything" mentality.

The "you can turn windows defender off, but if it's off for a while we'll turn it back on automatically" mentality (pic related).

For the sake of "User security and ease of use" they're made everything they possibly can opt-out rather than opt-in, and often times "opting out" means running third party programs to manually disable services and registry edits which completely breaks other features.

And the worst part is? They just love to undo every change you've spent numerous painstaking hours making with every windows update without telling you... Updates that you can't choose not to get or indefinitely delay without going out of your way to disable windows update services in general... Removing the ability for you to see when there are updates and pick/choose.

>>60039084
no proper shell
lots viruses and malware
can't modify, extend it, or even understand it
costs money
a pain to develop on

>>60039184
> It doesn't have a package manager
> What is OneGet?

>>60039084
Too optimized, everything works faster so it assume there is a catch.

>>60039084
I thought about using windows 10 for the fun of trying to equip my mind to it's blatant surveillance, and try to trick or use my time like working for my own company of tricking the os into giving me more out than they actually want to give.

It's just generally much worse. The design, the speed, the customization. Nothing is better other than the fact that more things need it to run.

>Opening a program that requires admin makes whole screen useless with a flashy animation that makes it take even longer.
>No pictures in file picker.
>No dark theme.
>Start Panel is gigantic, even after you change settings. It's literally twice as big as it needs to be unless you're a blind toddler.
>X has stopped responding.
>Start search utility is horrendously unresponsive.
>No workspaces, can't quickly press a button to hide my porn windows.
>No package manager. Have to open a browser, search google for said program, then open it in the folder where you downloaded it as opposed to just going CTRL + ALT + T >> sudo apt-get install program name password ENTER
>Abundance of malware, which the bloated anti-virus can't even detect.

There's so much wrong with Windows.

Because its a buggy pile of shit that breaks with every major update.

The worst iteration of Windows ever created with the least amount of user freedom.

>>60039084
>Can /g/ explain why Windows 10 is bad without using the reasons Windows 10 is bad?
bad post

>can't modify, extend it, or even understand it
Your lack of understanding is not a product flaw

>no proper shell
>a pain to develop on
Nope

>>60043766
Safe to assume any post coupled with an image of Lain comes from a shitposting pedophile manchild.

>>60043770
>Nope
Do you actually believe that?
Go check out the Windows Store some time.
Go look at the comments for any major Android app that has a port.

>>60043792
>Windows Store
You're doing it wrong

>>60043812
Sure kid.
Microsoft is pushing Windows as a service, they already try and force you to use the Windows Store to install programs.
Next year they will have the cloud version of Windows released so you can run x86 shit on ARM.
It will be slower than a chromebook and fail miserably and /g/ will be flooded with poo in the loo jokes.

>>60043870
Install all applications to to 7EN/10LTSB as silent packages via SCCM paired with SQL 2012 Standard or higher running on Windows Server 2016/2012R2 Hyper-V

>>60039084
>Bad flat ugly UI
>Microsoft is just adding tabs to File Explorer
>Crashes alot buggy as all hell
>The most targeted OS for Viruses

That's just the tip of the iceberg

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SBCL (Steel Bank Common Lisp) does not have native multithreading on Win32 systems.

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>>60039084
>>60039646
Stop using my waifu to shill windows, she uses Linux.

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>>60039084
main reasons:
1- having to restart the system to apply changes (drivers, program installations et cetera)
2- having to wait for the system to finish updating so it can actually turn off/reboot for further usage
3- slower system responsiveness compared to fresh install once multiple update patches have been installed
4- bad software design eg: explorer.exe is actually tied to the taskbar so if your file manager stops responding it crashes the taskbar with it
5- inconsistency eg: powershell and CMD, two control panels and the list goes on
6- high amount of viruses due to the OS marketshare
irrelevant reasons that people still bring up:
1 - UI sucks (you can tweak it a lot if you know what you're doing)
2 - Telemetry (it all comes down to how patient you are at following guides on how to make Windows reasonably more trustworthy, even if won't turn out to be perfect)
3- fragmentation: now really true unless you're using an old hard drive that would be prone to failing anyways

>>60039084

>Privacy is a meme

Kys

>>60039084
it's made by poo in loos

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>>60039354
>>NTFS is by far the worst modern file system
>citation needed
I'm sorry, I cant hear you over my, transparent, native, multichoice, fully free & open; compression and snapshots.

>>60039084
MUH PRIVACY and ADS in the OS.

Other than that it is pretty great.

>>60043079
No, it's the french terrorist that shot cops.

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>>60039084
Random I/O on NTFS makes database operations a hellish nightmare.
millions of less than 4k sized files can take weeks to shift even on a reasonably fast SSD RAID.

>>60039084
Ever since the creators update opening up any program is way slower.

>>60039646
Neither is telling people they can't use certain arguments for no reason.

it was fine until the anniversary update. now its unusable.

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>>60046589
DELET THIS

>>60040673
They do, but they also lie about what updates do and descriptions are pretty vague when you compare it to average linux package manager. What's even worse is that they lie about contents of recommended security updates.

>>60039098
10>7>8

Less comfy than 7. Mac 4 lyfe(until I switch to Linux)

>>60047384
Window management on Macs is a fucking nightmare.

>>60047394
No. It's the best thing with a magic mouse and all the swipey stuff.

>>60044443
BSD

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>>60047523
No, it's purely fictional.
In the entire series no one has mentioned a real os.
The Copeland os enterprise was just a reference to a apple's project (the os in the series was produced by the Tachibana Laboratories).
Even if you would look at it from a writter perspective it would make sense.
People would not argue over a fictional os.

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since you wouldn't care if the fbi kicked your door open to watch you take a bath and jerk off
>less compatibility with old programs (good luck running mechwarrior 4)
>bloatware
>shitty interface
>no significant improvements over 7
>forcing itself onto BIOSes whenever possible
just use an iphone, you fruity faggot

>>60039084
Forced update and requirement to not shut down right when my laptop is low on battery and I need to go out somewhere with it.

>>60039354
>if you are using low rpm hdd only or not ssd, its same in linux but you are in placebo effect so you can't actually see or feel it
Taking over 15 seconds to launch a web browser on a perfectly fine computer is not placebo.
And it doesn't happen in Linux, as far as I've used it.

>>60039698
thats why i use posready2009 and have considered suicide before EOL

>>60043606
It's the one Windows I removed in frustration during testing it was so bad doing background shit like this.

>>60040397
>You're never going to crack open the cmd and start editing config files on win 10.
because they use registries?

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>>60049072
>registeries
That's the reason why people like me hate windows.
It's a huge cluster fuck.

>>60049251
>It's a huge cluster fuck.
true but the .conf are also a cluster fuck not? atleast in linux... put the damm configs in /etc!

Get Pro edition thinking I'll be spared needless retarded hand holding. Cortona asks if I'll need an umbrella as Candy Crush magically reinstalls itself. Microsoft is a joke.

horrible fucking UI, it's so inconsistent. all I want is windows 10 with Windows 7 UI, even if it means selling all my data to M$

>Can /g/ give me reasons for why Win10 isn't shit except for why it's shit

At one point the start menu just stopped working
I had to make a new user account to fix it
Also it breaks the audio driver every now and then

>>60046619
Stop using Vista.

>>60039184
>NTFS is by far the worst modern file system
That's not HFS+

>>60049329
It's ironic how shitty windows drivers have gotten, used to be way worse on linux but now if drivers do exist they work so much nicer.

>>60049276
Yeah, that's true to some degree.
At least in linux you can link them to one directory.

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>>60039084
Poor performance, bloated drivers, enormous power consumption, useless deprecated filesystems, deprecated graphics stack.

>>60039084
its for tablets

Easiest way to see is just to use another computer (e.g. a mac) and see how much better it is in UI and and the like. You'll realize after about 5 minutes how less bloated and more consistent the UI is.

e.g. Apps on Windows
>Desktop Shortcut
>Quick launch shortcut on the start bar
>In start menu

That's not counting search plus the actual location in program files or whatever.

Meanwhile on OSX
>All apps are under "launchpad"
>Can be put on the dock for quick access

Linux usually fine too, I'm using OSX as an example because there are tons of looks for Linux, don't get triggered faggots.

People use Windows for years so they get used to the bloat and redundancy. Once you try something else you realize just how shit its become. Windows is like a messy room, it crept up up on you so you don't realize how shit it really is, because your used to it.

>>60049369
>dash

kys desu

>>60049423
taskbar locking shortcuts is faster than a Mac though?

and both of them suffer from being bloated as fuck

Wangblows isn't shit, it's perfectly fine for the average PC user and while nearly as outrageous they don't charge as high a (false)pricemark as Apple. That said Macs have their uses too in media development.

Fact is every OS is fine. It's just that Linux let's you fully customize your experience should you have the patience to learn how. And the free software game be poppin.

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>>60049355
>>60049355
>At least in linux you can link them to one directory.
well yes that is a useful workaround for a problem that should not exist..

>>60049631
It's a good solution when you want to install packages to places that aren't your config directory cause who would want that?

>>60039184
HFS+ is worse

>>60039084
the illuminati is real

>>60049556
>taskbar locking shortcuts is faster than a Mac though?
Dunno. Don't think so but I was talking more about UI.

There are things people learn to deal with on Windows, that don't really have to be that way. It's been like this forever so we're all used to it.
Like the fact deleting a shortcut doesn't delete the app.

On Windows there is a real lack of a place to just see all the applications. For some reason, the best place to actually see shit is the "uninstall a program" list. The start bar used to be the go to area, but it's too clogged up with shit now.

On install, sometimes they create shortcuts on desktop, sometimes some other place. There's just no consistency to where things are. I don't even know what's on my desktop(Windows) because shit is all over the place. Even in the file system, some things are in Program Files, others are not. Basic apps like notepad for example, are elsewhere. For all I know Candy Crush is somewhere on there. I don't know where shit is on my windows desktop while on my mac I have a good idea of what I do and don't have and I can delete it.

>>60042662
>implying the internet is anything but a corporate sponsored spying apparatus

>>60047491
Finder is shit and Apple keeps fucking up samba

>>60039084
In case you couldn't tell, it's a cobbled together mess. There are literally two control panels that fight eachother

>>60039084
>using memes such as "muh privacy" and "dem ebil jews are stealing muh porn folders"
It's not a meme. They literally tell you they're doing it. And if you "turn it off", they turn it right back on.

>>60039084
>Hey gang, let's play a game where I get to arbitrarily discredit valid arguments by labeling them "memes". That'll prove that Windows 10 is best!

>>60039084

My computer works for me and that is it. Its not someone elses tool to advertise or spy on me.

Also they are really shit at fixing things with small quirks still in it since launch.

>>60049735
That's your fault though. You can customize the task bar (the UI bar) to house shortcuts that show the icon of the program, hell I remember being able to right click menu to incog with chromium.

Shits going on your desktop because it specifically asks you at the end of an install "would you like to create a desktop icon?"

Again, I run Debian Jessie and I agree with you in saying the Windows UI is meh, but let's talk issues that don't include key instances of operator error.

>>60049912
When I said I don't know whats on my desktop I meant "Desktop PC". Not the desktop desktop.

I don't have any problem, I was meaning to point out the lack of consistency on where things go. A normie could install an app and not uncheck the options. Now he's got shit on his task bar, a shortcut in the start menu, a desktop shortcut too. And none of them are the actual app, which is probably in Program Files or Program Files x86. I mean damn, no wonder "it just werks" became an Apple meme.

When you install on a Mac it just goes in fucking applications.

>>60043606
Reversing changes and settings I made was the reason I switched permanently to Linux on my notebook. Some things were just annoying (like that they changed back standard apps like Edge) others were quite serious (e.g. turning secure/fastboot back on, so that i couldn't dual-boot into linux installation ). At that point I realized, that in their new business modell (software as a service) they don't care about the user or that the system "just werks", they just force you to use their shit with all they got.

And that's the core problem of Win10.
So why you're still using Windows, when Linux is a viable alternative?

>>60043698
>Opening a program that requires admin makes the whole screen useless with a flashy animation that makes it take even longer
Because you run your terminal as a super-user all the time. Got it.
>No pictures in file picker
What? You mean having a custom background for a given folder? There is software for this important feature.
>No dark theme.
Another important feature. This one has native support, though.
>Start Panel is gigantic, even after you change settings
Right-click it.
>X has stopped responding.
I admit, other OS use different wording.
>Start search utility is horrendously unresponsive.
That's a lie. It's pretty much instantaneous, however, it's limited to the installed application list, history, store, and such - it's not an actual file search.
>No workspaces, can't quickly press a button to hide my porn windows.
Win + D
Or, if you into that kind of thing:
Win + Tab > + New desktop > Ctrl + Win + Right/Left to switch between.
>No package manager. Have to open a browser
Someone is just installing shit with apt-get without going to the dev site to read how the shit works and using it like a monkey who's copy-pasting shit it found on the Internet.
Someone never had to use curl to install shit.

Nevertheless, Windows still has its store that has a similar function. The app choices are pretty shit though.
And, actually, Windows 10 does have apt-get.
>Abundance of malware
Stop clicking unknown shit while giving it permission to fucking run.

Geez, anon.

>>60049423
>Easiest way to see is just to use another computer (e.g. a mac)

>Click a folder
>Gotta make a copy!
>Ctrl + C
>Ctrl + V
>"There's a folder with this name already!"

Anon, I've been working on a Mac for half a year. I probably know more about Mac GUI in terms of tools and shortcuts more than the majority of life-long Mac users, and yet - it's shit. Slow, unresponsive and unintuitive shit, that can't handle stress and shit's up GUI thread whenever it runs low on RAM.

Have the thought of you just not being used to Windows' GUI never came to your mind? Maybe it's you who needs to spend more than 5 minutes figuring out how it works?

I switched away from Mac at the first opportunity - I'm much more productive on Windows, and that includes developing for Unix systems.

>>60050179
>X has stopped responding.
I admit, other OS use different wording.

You don't know what you're talking about.
When on Linux a program crashes (that happend like two times in the last 12 months) it is always possible to easily determinate it or change the focus to another program. While on Windows I had to shutdown my PC, because team fortress stopped working

>>60039354
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_shells_for_Windows
Is there an article for these in the /g/ wiki?

>>60050167
Linux is not, and never will be, a viable alternative outside of basic web browsing.

>>60050179
That post is funny. I guess they haven't used Windows before?

>>No pictures in file picker
I don't even understand this, this hasn't magically disappeared since WinXP or something.

>>No dark theme.
Definitely running a dark theme right now on win10 1703

>>Start Panel is gigantic, even after you change settings
Alternatively, I don't know how to right click icons

>>X has stopped responding.
Other OS' do similar things though. Modern Linux DEs will tell you something very similar, while OSX will just give you a spinning beachball of non-meaning.

The start search thing lacking file search is a very good point though. OSX has historically had a very good search tool in Spotlight. I've honestly just started using Everything and Keypirinha for search over Windows' search.

>>No workspaces, can't quickly press a button to hide my porn windows.
Hasn't used Win10, this is one of the best features it has over its predecessors.

>>No package manager. Have to open a browser
This is a valid complaint but not how they push it. Windows sucks at cleaning up after uninstalls, you've got to use something like Revo to do proper cleanup.
Though for the installing side there is always Chocolatey. Dunno how robust it is these days though.


>>60050277
>Okay, just gonna move this folder
Oh, wait

>>60050373
You're comparing a random application window to a fullscreen game. Either way it's obvious you don't know how to use a keyboard.
So, obligatory >phone posting

>>60050373
>You don't know what you're talking about.
Anon, I know more about Linux than you do, and I don't even use it outside of WSL and VMs. Something tells me, I'm perfectly aware what I'm talking about.

I don't think I ever got a full freeze on Win10, but what you're referring to is a freeze of an application that takes control over your graphical output (aka fullscreen game). It's not that everything is frozen, it's just you can't see anything but the frozen application.
I believe Win10 works around this shit, but the situation from the fresh info you're providing can be usually worked around by locking your PC/making it sleep and then going back.

>>60050277
I have used Windows since I was young.
I have had a Macbook less than a month.

I feel I have an easier time with my Mac than my Windows PC.

Microsoft is spyware at this point.

>turn off send shit to microsoft
>it still sends shit

Idk what my macbook is doing, maybe nothing but at least it has the courtesy not to pretend I can turn off sending shit if it's going to do it anyway. Windows 10 is like Bonzi Buddy at this point.
I hear for some people Candy Crush reinstalled itself. Of course they don't even list it under programs and features because it's a "system app". :^)

I aint an Apple shill. I won't say your experience isn't valid. But all I can say is for me, OSX is better.

>>60050544
Good goy, make sure to sign in with your Apple ID for the full MacOS experience

>>60050486
>OSX has historically had a very good search tool in Spotlight
Yeah, until you put it under stress. When it has 90% of its resources free, the search is good. When you're using it for the only thing it's supposed to be good in (it's a Unix system with a GUI! Gotta go dev!) every single function in it becomes horrendously slow.

Technically speaking, when you're doing installs and uninstalls properly and don't use shitty malware-ish software, Windows can remain clean.
The latter might be a problem, though, as anyone can sometimes install some piece of shit that requires throughout cleaning later on. I just manually clean registry, but there are some good tools for the purpose.
I assume Unix-based systems would have something similar for the actually paid apps/apps with trials. Not that anyone would use them on Unix.

>>60050544
>I have used Windows since I was young.
>I have had a Macbook less than a month.
>I feel I have an easier time with my Mac than my Windows PC.
Anon, that only says you have learning problems. If you've moved from Win to OSX and you found it to be "easier" almost immediately, means you weren't using any of the tools Windows has.

>the courtesy not to pretend
Windows is crystally clear about the amount of data it's sending. Read the manual.

>Of course they don't even list it under programs and features because it's a "system app". :^)
They do and it isn't.

>I hear for some people Candy Crush reinstalled itself
And I hear from some people that L. Ron Hubbard is a prophet. Must be true.

>>60049741
It's not just that. It's the home of every modern pissing contest. Just spend an hour roaming /g/ to see how most of them go.

>>60050709
I guess I can understand that. I never really put an OSX system under heavy stress, my Hackintosh install didn't see much productive work compared to my Linux/Windows installs.

And, to be fair, Win10 by default does do things like reinstall sponsored applications, Candy Crush included. It's easily disabled though, but past that you get into ethics discussions that I can do without.

>>60039084
the registry ... NTFS
the screwed update system
viruses

>>60043606
off "for a while"
what is a microsoft while

>>60044112
adverts

>>60043606
This right here is my biggest fucking problem with them. They're so busy getting into every damn thing, treating me like I need my hand held. I can deal with the privacy invasion, I can deal with shit being hidden behind a curtain, but I won't put up with them telling me how my own computer should behave.

I'd sooner give up computers altogether than use Windows 10 as long as they wanna be like that.

>>60050801
>reinstall sponsored applications
On Home - maybe. Never seen Pro install something on its own, and I've been using non-activated version for about a year, so I couldn't actually turn suggestions off. I had "that's an app from Store" in my Start menu, but that's it - never seen anything else.

When I bought PC and then actually activated Pro for it - suggestions were disabled by three clicks and I've never seen them again.

I do agree that the whole policy of putting any sort of ads/suggestions into your product stinks, but I never had problems with doing a bit of stuff to polish rough edges and get desired functionality.

When I had a gaming rig, I was using Radeon HD 9700, so I had to tweak driver settings for pretty much every game. But, well, it was one of the best GPU for the price, so I was fine with that.

>>60039184
becuz

>>60050486
What are you on about? I've used Linux for every task I performed on Windows. The only way you could come to such a conclusion is that you didn't have a clue when you tried it. It's not like CoD or Adobe programs are needed for our daily lives.

>>60050897
My Win10 Enterprise install came with Candy Crush pre-installed, unfortunately. And a few others I can't remember. They got uninstalled and all of that was disabled, of course. It might have been because I installed from an insider Creator iso.

>>60050965
>I've used Linux for every task I performed on Windows.
Good for you.

>needed for our daily lives
Trying to limit scope? Just because *you* don't use it daily doesn't mean someone else doesn't, or that those tools don't exist.

Might as well mention decent office applications (and no, libre/openoffice are not viable alternatives).

ITT:
- Linux "users" who consider themselves power users because they "edited" .conf files to rice their desktop and have done nothing else to warrant such a title after switching from Windows to join the /g/ kool kidz klub
- Windows "users" who would consider themselves power users who have NEVER heard of Chocolatey, ever questioned what the absolute fuck that Powershell thing in their start menu is, or gone into the settings and actually turned things off

All of you faggots need to fuck off, lurk more, and learn your operating systems.

>>60051113
I'm afraid it's the other way around. The majority of people that use computers for work aren't graphic designers. Where Windows would cripple an older or less powerful system, Linux greatly increases its usefulness and it provides tons of productivity software at no cost.

>>60051232
>"users" who consider themselves power users because they "edited" .conf files to rice their desktop
Sour grapes much?
Did someone on /wg/ insult your desktop?

>>60039184
>>60039184
>You can't change the Desktop environment or the window manager

You can use whatever shell you want.

>>60051113
How isn't LibreOffice viable? Try to limit scope? Just because *you* don't like it doesn't mean everyone else feels the same.

>>60049741
It's not bad but lacks many things.

Worst font rendering of all OSes. It seems that to some extent it's their choice to have a crispy font rendering but it's actually choppy and jagged as fuck.

Very few options to customise the UI (this is even truer for macos).

File explorer and much of the core UI is the same old blocky grey stuff. Context menu too.

I dont like the filesystem. The whole idea about the registry is fucked up, in my opinion, it's not very consistent.

WHERE'S MY WALLPAPER

>>60039084
My privacy is an argument, no matter how bad you don't want it to be.

But here we go:
>Bad UI (subjective)
>UI is not consistent
>Rebooting is forced
>Can't recompile it with features I don't want / need
>Need enterprise or higher to set telemetry level to security mode
>Slowly going to deprecate win32
>I prefer GNOME software over the Microsoft Store
>I prefer LibreOffice over MS-Office, although I could install LibreOffice on Windows
>I prefer my titlebars at 25px, there is no way to do this in Windows
>Windows 8 start screen removed, I enjoyed it.
>Control Panel being deprecated
>No way to disable the close minimize and maximize keys or move them to the left
>UNIX utilities can't edit Windows utilities and vise-versa because microsoft is retarded in their document encoding, basically making my use of VIM useless unless I do :set ff=dos
>Use of graphical GNU/Linux applications requires me to install a third-party X server
>No wayland support
>I can't run GNOME on it
>dbus doesn't run in the sub system very well
>Doesn't conform to POSIX standard
>The use of DLLs is retarded, Windows should have something like /usr/lib
>Windows doesn't support Mac OS X applications
>VirtualBox requires temporarily cutting the network connection to install the network driver
>Razer Snyapse driver dialog appears during updates to the OS
>Have to use raw input to get decent accuracy in osu!
>Can't manage my system services with systemd because it's Windows
>Can't edit /etc/fstab because It's Windows

That's all I can think of really.

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>>60039084

OP, fuck you for defending this shit, It literally fits the description of malware...

I can tolerate being spied on, but what pisses me off is this shit wont let me use my wares and even deletes shit off my HDD, USB sticks and memory cards WITHOUT MY FUCKING CONSENT.

THE SAME GOES FOR FUCKING UPDATES, INSTALL SHIT WITHOUT MY FUCKING PERMISSION.

TRY DOWNLOADING A FUCKING UPDATE ON A 3MB CONNECTION AND TRY PLAYING LOL SOME OTHER MULTIPLAYER GAME.

WORST FUCKING PART IS I CANT TURN THAT SHIT OFF OR CANCEL IT.

FUCK MICROSOFT, THE DAY THE MAKE SOMETHING THAT DOESNT SUCK IS THE DAY THEY DESIGN VACCUMS.

I forgot to add, the stock version kills HDDs and SSD.

I've seen it happen, fucked up a brand new 1tb hdd, i know it was good cus its brand new and checked it before i installed it, no bad sectors or shit.

Does Ubuntu make my system run smoother than on Windows?

>>60039184
>NTFS is by far the worst modern file system

well that's probably the only thing not true and complete BS

enjoy getting a 4gb+ file on a fat32 partition

>>60054385
Yes, definitely!
>Friendly reminder
If your new to unix like OS's you would be better off starting with debian.
It's just as easy to install as Ubuntu and /g/ is not going to bully you for using it
(Jewbuntu has done many questionable decisions over the years).

>>60039084
impossible to disable """telemetry""" that uses harddrive, cpu and network resources while I'm trying to do shit
every time I type anything into the start menu search it freezes for 20 seconds for some reason
that's it really

>>60054347
>3Mbit
>living in the 90s
>using an OS from 2015

>>60039084
I would, but I do not want Microshit to have my memes

>>60051898

You sure got him there

>>60054990
This also hit me on the weekend when I was at a LAN party. We ventured out onto online servers in search of more players but 300-800ms ping because multiple Windows 10 machines shitting up the network

>>60039184
oh shit wincucks on suicide watch!!!

Cortana being integrated into the search system is my main gripe with it. Also it holds onto WAY too much old update shit for rollback purposes and it just wastes space.

>>60054347
>WORST FUCKING PART IS I CANT TURN THAT SHIT OFF OR CANCEL IT.
Yeah you can.
Even if you're on a home edition, there are timed scripts that shift the "active hours" around every hour so you only update when you tell it to.

>even deletes shit off my HDD, USB sticks and memory cards
[citation needed]

>>60055195
turn off P2P updates you retard

>>60039084
I'm confused. You want /g/ to explain why win10 is bad....but you don't want them to explain why it's bad?
"muh privacy" isn't just a meme lol.

>>60053932
>Windows 8 start screen removed, I enjoyed it.
You can still have this, just make the start menu fullscreen.

That was one of the reasons I didn't install 10 for more than a year, until someone told me I could still have the fullscreen start menu on 10.

>>60044448
this guy knows whats up

>>60039084
It's fake news. Windows 10 has more support and security than any OS right now.