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How come only 2 countries in the Western world use logical date

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I'm talking about Hungary and Lithuania.

YYYY/MM/DD hh:mm:ss is the only logical notation because each following unit is smaller the previous one.

The other equivalently logical notation could be ss:mm:hh DD/MM/YYYY but absolutely nobody uses it.

Is it historical reasons?
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>nobody uses DD/MM/YYYY
what? that's the second most common after MM/DD/YYYY
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>>60035686
I said
ss:mm:hh DD/MM/YYYY


In order for that to be logical you should change your time notation too.
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>>60035732
>change time notation to appease the autism gods

I live in Canada, we use three date systems, measure liquids in liters and weight in pounds, grams, and metric tonnes. We measure distance in kilometers and height in feet.
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>>60035762
Poor you, I feel your pain. I won the measurement unit lottery.

I live in Lithuania, we use SI and the big-endian date format.
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>>60035664
Does it come with a legend? Looks like China, North Korea, South Korea, Mongolia, Taiwan and Japan are all the same as Lithuania and Hungary
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>>60035844
It's from Wikipedia, the legend is there

>Grey
>>What sort of date format do you want?
>>just fuck my shit up senpai
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DD/MM/YYYY is most practical. Any other format is shit
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DD/MM/YYYY + hh:mm:ss is plenty logical though.

Just logical relative to its use and meaning rather than some odd autism god idea.

Day? Usually the most important part. Month? Often either as important or comes second. Year? Usually the least relevant when the full date is specified. Day is shorter than month is shorter than year.

hh:mm:ss again, goes from usually-most-relevant to usually-least-relevant. And hour is longer than minute is longer than second.

So hh:mm:ss dd/mm/yyyy is logical, just slightly different from your vision. You don't really see them paired very often, though... I mean, very few uses need both seconds and years, so they're rarely seen in the same context. Furthermore, the time of day is rarely seen as part of the date notation. Rather, the time of the day is seen as something "inside" a certain date, and is separated in language. You don't say "16:20 24.12.1990", you usually say "on 24.12.1990, at 16:20 o clock" or something comparable.
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>>60035935
Compare that with the putput of ls -l
it's
MM DD HH:MM
if it's in the current year, or
MM DD YYYY if it's in a different year.
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>>60036054
who cares what its in ls -l?
especially when month is written out by its shorthand
apr, jun, feb,...
they choose order to beest separate columns of numbers

DD-MM-YYYY is the best because its logical and because it closely corresponds with what people use in every day life
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>>60036161
But in the future people are going to use computers for everything, and YYYY/MM/DD hh:mm:ss is best for sorting. The world needs to adapt.
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>>60036161
I do
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My gf is Hungarian
They use surname before given name too, like Asians (which they are if you take the Turanpill)
Literally GOAT country
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>>60036199
only if you would have retards who sort things alphanumerically
you think when german has excel spreadsheet with dates and wants the newest, or the oldest its not simple click and done thing?
that it orders by text and not date format? that first items would be the ones from dates from 01 date of all the months and all the years?

exactly because computers are so prevalent the date format matters very little

>>60036250
what makes ls special? also do you argument in accordence with it for abandoning numbers and using name of months?
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>>60036266
The inconsistency between current year and other years. Inconsistencies are bad mojo.
Who cares about the format if it's not even consistent?
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>>60036348
how do you imagine the inconsistency?
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>not just using seconds since epoch everywhere
I'll simply write the current time as 1492970800 or so, and you're free to convert it to whatever fits your LC_TIME
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>>60036369
You sure your clock is right?
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>>60036263
If you think about names and surnames with respect to date and time, I think it's logical, because there are more surnames than there are more surnames than first names, so from that, surname > first name.

So writing
surname name year month day hour minute second
is the most logical format of the birth certificate.

So it turns out that Hungary is the most logical country regarding date and name formats.

Respect your girlfriend, and as you said, asians.
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>>60035870
OK here's the legend

>Cyan
DMY
>Yellow
YMD
>Magenta
MDY
>Red
DMY, MDY
>Green
DMY, YMD
>Grey
DMY, MDY, YMD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country
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>>60036263
Also, I'm a bit dated on meme game, what does GOAT mean? Like smart and consistent?
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>>60035664
GOOD point
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>>60036505
Greatest of all time
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>>60036522
I thought it was a Fallout reference.
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>>60035664
Japan uses ISO 8601 date/time
which is the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD

YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
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>>60036540
Sorry, forgot about Japan. The list grows to three.
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>>60036430
I rounded down the count a bit to get a nice even number. the local clock should be accurate to about 1 ms if my ntp client is to be believed.
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>>60036574
Many countries have adopted ISO 8601 in theory, but the Commoners are too retarded to change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Related_standards

+1 to Hungary if the ordinary lowly people actually use logical ordering of time data.
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>>60036590
Just like upload a picture lmao
You even get it down to ms
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I like DD-MM-YYYY, but the problem is it looks too similar to MM-DD-YYYY. For example, 03-11-2017, which one is it?

So I prefer YYYY-MM-DD, it starts off as a year, so you know it's not going to be MM-DD-YYYY, so intuitively the second one would be month. A nice bonus is files with those names are sorted correctly by date.
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Today is Sunday, April 23rd, 2017.
Today is Sunday, the 23rd of April, 2017.

Because English and brevity.
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>>60036698
Today is 2017, April 23rd, Sunday.
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>>60036707
Today it is 2017.
Today isn't 2017, 2017 is 365 days.
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>>60036731
Also you would have to say "a Sunday".
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>>60035664
Because us Hungarians are smart
>>60035686
Fuck off idiot
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>>60036831
>what is hungarian notation
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>>60035664
DD.MM.YYYY
hh:mm:ss
3,5 (three and a half)
10 000 (ten thousand)

The only logical way. Everyone else is an idiot and should fuck off this planet.
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>>60036747
>>60036731
would you kindly turn your tripcode off until it's absolutely necessary?
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>>60037328
Impossible. Born a faggot, always a faggot.
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>>60035664
ss:mm:hh is utterly retarded
even more so on /g/
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>>60035664
i wish windows would have dd/mm/yyyy instead of dd-mmm-yyyy. its retarded.
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Endianness is a term used predominantly in computer science to represent the
byte order. Analogically, we can define endianness in date formats. YMD is big-endian,
DMY is little-endian. A problem arises because of the simple fact that DMY
is not compatible with our current numeral system – the numeral system is big-endian
while DMY isn’t.
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>>60036487
>Magenta
Why murica is always so retarded.
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>>60035664
If you read left from right the most logical is putting the more relevant information first.
Thus DD/MM/YYYY, since people rarely forget what year it is.

For time MM:HH would be the more logical, since seconds are mostly irrelevant.
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>>60039065
Do you actually config you clock to show MM:HH instead of HH:MM?
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>>60036675
>which one is it

use different separators

YMD=2017-04-23
DMY=23.4.2017
MDY=4/23/2017
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>>60039116
Yes.
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there are not wronger people than DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS.MS
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>>60039230
t. ameridumb
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>>60039244
t. threatened
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>>60035686
Isn't DD/MM/YYYY more common?
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Magyar master race reporting in.
How can other people live knowing that they use an illogical date format?
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>>60039181
Well, I don't know what to say, honestly. If you find it better, then good for you. I personally consider it blasphemy, but maybe I've been conditioned to my surroundings.
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>>60039230
Yes. MM/DD/YYYY is the most ilæogical, at least the one you wrote follow small large large small
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>>60039320
He doesnt. Dont get baited.
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>>60039334
>MM/DD/YYYY is the most ilæogical
incorrect person

zero positions out of place
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS.MS
one position out of place (YYYY in wrong position)
MM-DD-YYYY HH:MM:SS.MS
two positions out of place (DD in wrong position, YYYY in wrong position)
DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS.MS
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>>60038751
When someone asks you the date do you reply, "It is the 23rd of April," or do you reply, "It is April 23rd?"
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I store my files with year, month, day in their name. Just for easier sorting.
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>>60039387
It is the 23rd of April
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>>60039320
Once you get used to a certain clock in a certain position every format is the same.
It's more useful if your eyes don't alredy know where to look.
>>60039349
>he
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>>60039465
Do you speak a Romance language?

No native English speaker would default to "It is the 23rd of April." The standard grammatical convention would be to say "This is Simon's hat," instead of "This is the hat of Simon." The same applies to dates. The statement of "It is April 23rd 2017" is much more natural than to say "It is the 23rd of April 2017."
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>>60039644
>No native English speaker would default to "It is the 23rd of April."
Not that Anon but all among the handful of UK nationals with whom I work default to that structure. Xst/nd/rd/th of Y.
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>>60039681
Scots, Welsh, and Irish don't count.
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>Az Úr kétezer-tizenhetedik évének, április huszonnegyedik napjának nulla óra kilencedik percében küldöm ezt a posztot.
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The only way is the american way
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So i'm the only one here that when i see a date like 11/11/17 on internet get confused as fuck?
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>>60039681
So what is the date of Independence Day in the US?
Is it July the 4th? Or the 4th of July?
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>2ch.net
>YY/MM/DD(DAY)hh:mm:ss

>4chan.org
>MM/DD/YY(DAY)hh:mm:ss
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ITT: Autismos get triggered
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>>60040343
Nah, I do too. I always write stuff like DD/MM/YYYY.
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>>60040886
Fug
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>>60035664
Do you really need to be reminded first what year is it? Do you need to know what second is it during a regular conversation or while writing a letter, email? Don't be retarded please.

hh:mm:ss and dd/mm/yyyy is best.
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iso 8601 is the onyl good standard since it is the only one that sorts correctly without any fuckery.

any other format is simply irrational and does not sort without some challenges.
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>>60035664
you realize every asian country uses general-to-specific time (aka yyyymmdd
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