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So this is the power of Ryzen

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So this is the power of Ryzen
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>>60019930
>BUT MOOOOOOOOOOM I NEED TO LOAD BLOATED JAVASCRIPT WEBSITES 0.25 SECONDS FASTER!
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The power
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Absolute power
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>>60019947
So this is the power .. of shilling

Woah.
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I would like to see this weighted by price.
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inb4 throttlecore faggots try to diffuse regret with outdated benches
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AMDs giant dildo is cucking all of the babbylake 'enthusiasts' out there
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Why would anyone buy intel at this point?
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>>60020016
>CPU benchmark with a GPU bottleneck
Why do people defend this?
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>>60019930
who has one tab? try running sevral octane benchs at once
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>>60020068
>CPU benchmark with a GPU bottleneck

bottlneck is when numbers do not change with change of hardware fyi
numbers obviously changed
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>Single threaded Javascript benchmarks
>Game with engine that's a literal joke
>Game that's been patched already

You really aren't earning your keep here, shill. You only get 0.0000000000000001 shekel this time.
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Outta the way, intel shills
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so it's slightly faster than using an i5 sandy bridge at internet browsing. You can still easily use MS office, internet (normie shit) on a core 2 duo or phenom II.
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>>60020176
>Day one benchmark
>Nvidia drivers cockblocking performance
>Not posting the actual review https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/11.html

You don't even get 0.0000000000000000000000000001 shekels for this one.
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>>60019930
>TFW according to this benchmark my 5820K must be above the charts
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>>60020203
A C2D is slower than a Phenom II. I'm using one up to this day for shitposting, the only difference I can feel are unpackers and installers. Unpacking the Nvidia driver takes seconds on my 5820K, but more than a minute on my Phenom.
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Coffee Lake 6 cores 12 threads will CRUSH Rypoo soon
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>>60020142
this

>>60020068
why do people never offer evidence for their dumb rhetoric?
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Kek. Ryzen BTFO!
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>>60020321
It'll crush your wallet and your electricity bill for sure.
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>>60020041
>Software and workloads used in performance tests may have been optimized for performance only on Intel microprocessors. Performance tests, such ... Intel is a sponsor and member of the BenchmarkXPRT Development Community, and was the major developer of the XPRT family of benchmarks
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Has anything ever caused as much butthurt in the history of /g/ as Ryzen? People have not stopped losing their minds over it.

Everyone would just prefer it if there was a single CPU manufacturer and it had no incentive to improve its tech or reduce prices. People just want their favorite corporation to win, just like Marvel vs. DC etc.
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>>60020331
Holy shit, why isn't AMD bankrupt yet?
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>>60020390
Oh lordy, why does AMD still have customers?
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>>60020331
Almost matches fps at only twice the price. Well done AMD. Well done.
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>>60020378
It's just retards and trolls posting intentionally cherry picked or misleading benchmarks.
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>>60020416
>Stutterlake housefire edition enthusiasts will defend this
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>>60020440
Holy shit, how will AMD recover?
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>>60020419
On both sides desu famalam. Since Ryzen, intel shills claim more cores doesn't matter, and AMD fags claim IPC is dead and Kaby lake will literally burn down your house.

I don't care, I'm still running sandy bridge. I'll let this shake out over 2017. Nice to see intel has competition again and doesn't win literally every benchmark
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Hmmm...
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Why is OP posting day one benchmarks? Really makes you think...
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>>60020490
moar shillmarks
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>>60020489
>0.06 seconds
wew laddy
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>>60020489
Where is the 7700k? What is this benchmark really showing? 3% of the time fps will drop below 60?
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>>60020530
Damn. Intel is over
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>>60020490
Are we wrong? Have we failed at standard benchmarks?

No! It's the benchmarks that are wrong!
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>>60020490
Le ebin DAY ONE XD benchmarks maymay!!!

Fucking kill yourself. If your shit company can't make its hardware optimized on the first day of release, it clearly isn't good enough.

Those BIOS updates you claim will improve Ryzen's performance is literally akin to Intel's scratching cards for unlocking more performance.

Both companies suck shit. Intel isn't going to lower prices. Ryzen is AMD's one trick that will only get it the money it needs to pay its CEO a billion rupees so he doesn't poo all over AMD headquarters's loo.
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>>60020479
and this with old agesa and non-patched games
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>>60021812
>Those BIOS updates you claim will improve Ryzen's performance is literally akin to Intel's scratching cards for unlocking more performance.
Wow never thought I'd hear maximum bullshit until I read this line. Thanks anon.
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>>60021920

>optimizing a brand new platform is akin to intel scratch and sniffs
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>>60021812
This post is so stupid it's making my head hurt.
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>>60020176
>March 17th
Intel trolls really are desperate. Not even Caffeine Lake will save you from drowning in your tears.
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>>60020487
>Intel shills
>more cores don't matter
Wait for 6/12 BabbyKake EX!

Make your fucking minds up shills.
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>>60020548
7700K is off the charts. It's the time spent under 60 fps. Basically Intel is a stutterfest.
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>>60019930
>goygle benchmark
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>>60021812
AMDNigger here but fucking kek
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>>60022103
What? Make sense please
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>>60021812
Yeah, they should take a page from Intel's book and release a new platform that kills the $1000 CPUs you can purchase for it. http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-x99-motherboard-goes-up-in-smoke-for-reasons-unknown_150008
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>>60019930
>>60019947
>>60019961
>Jewggle
>NaziPooUp
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Octane is basically only testing the performance of a single core, and it's designed to benchmark Chromebooks.
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>>60023260
Not only that, but ... https://v8project.blogspot.ca/2017/04/retiring-octane.html
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>>60023342
Wow, Ryzen really is the champion
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>>60020390
>>60020413
>>60020331
>>60020176
>>60020016
>>60019998
>>60019947
>>60019961


>There are people on /g/ that care about video game benchmarks

You all buy bargain bin cards anyways 1060/1070 RX4xx series and it doesn't even matter your gpu is the bottle neck.
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>>60025177
>>60025163
>>60025147
>>60025139
We don't all play FPS games where the GPU is the bottleneck. I play a lot of Starcraft 2 and IPC is the main bottleneck.
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>>60025139
Most people tend to upgrade their GPUs more often than their CPUs because CPUs get like 5% better every generation while GPUs see much bigger improvements. Your GPU might be the bottleneck now, but in 3-4 years when we get what's after Volta and Vega? Who knows.
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On todays show of cherry picking benches.


You can use paint no. Just fucking paste at least 3/4 of the bench from a site l.
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Sit down Intel.
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>>60025304
You're right. you're more likely to get a fancy new 1440p/4k monitor too which will make your gpu the bottle neck again. I'm saying people care way to fucking much. I see people with 7700ks and fucking 1060's and rx480s all the time.
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>>60025356
> i5
Processor that's less than half the price beats the 1800x in half the benchmarks
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>>60025394
Why are you ignoring the fact that the 1600x cost the same as the i5, yet they have very similar performances. But with Ryzen you get extra 2 cores and 4 threads
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>>60025394
So does a 1600, which is $300 cheaper

1800X is only useful if you need the extra cores when you're not playing gaymen shit and don't want to overclock
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>>60025430
Only in GPU-bottlenecked games
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>>60025443
Yeah, so 99% of games.
eSports fags that need 600FPS on their 144Hz monitor on 800x600 are welcome to get a pentium
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>>60025443
Wat. Only 2 bench from that list seems bottlenecked
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>>60025466
I have a 1440p 165hz gsync monitor. 7700k pushes more frames in the majority of games, sometimes a LOT more (especially for older games like Starcraft 2).

You act like the 1080 GTX and 1080 GTX Ti aren't capable of kicking the living shit out of 1440p.
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>>60025356
> leaving off the i7-7700k

EVERY. TIME.
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>video gaymes
Every time.
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>>60026389
As if 99% of people buying these aren't using them for bideo games
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Guys... guys... as long as you buy the right mobo, ram, ssds that work with the chipset properly, tinker with the BIOS and voltage, and win the silicon lottery, Ryzen is bredy gud.
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>>60026442
Guys, guys, as long as you delid, watercool, buy an expensive Z270 motherboard, tinker with the BIOS and voltage, and win the silicon lottery, i7-7700K is predy gud. (It's actually still shit.)
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>>60026442
>Not even day one cherrypicked benchmarks
The shekelchasers aren't even trying anymore.
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>>60019930
>>60019947
>>60019961
>>60020176
>>60025359
Gee, I wonder why the 1600 and 1600x aren't in any of these benchmarks? I wonder when these benchmarks were run? It's truly a mystery.
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>>60026494
> delid
u fokin what?

> watercool
only if you want 5ghz

> expensive Z270 motherboard
at least Z270 motherboards work

> tinker with BIOS and voltage
The BIOS actually works and 7700k doesn't take 1.4V to OC.

> win the silicon lottery
7700k is guaranteed to OC at least 10%

> (it's actually still shit)
Do AMD fuckbois have to put ointment on their ass every day or is it a once a week thing?
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>>60026635
>No graphs
>No charts
>No diagrams
>No links
>No embedded videos
>No evidence at all
Get in, shekelchaser.
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Stutter simulation ? nah i rather lose few fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcCqnE5mRw&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswrFCb5sMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuQu-y0GnPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybF7r4rogHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11NfsMykyAk
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>>60026695
> GTA
> Black Desert Online (a literal who game)

EVERY. TIME.

>>60026676
Here's your reply.
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>>60025280
to be fair, that engine is absolute shit and is limited to 2 cores, intel would be better for starcraft 2
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>>60026748
Yeah, unfortunately a lot of the games I play have shit engines. I'd love to have bought an 1800x (I just ordered a new computer https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dqhh8K), but until I stop playing these old games with shit engines, I'm stuck on 4 cores. Fortunately the 7700k is a damn fine processor (as is the 1800x). All this shitposting is funny but really just autists yelling at each other over small differences in real world usage.
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>>60025379
you will get a higher resolution monitor that will bottleneck the system, you will also get games that decided to focus on pushing more graphic effects then wanting to hit higher fps because screenshots are viewable on the box, frame rate isn't.

I bought my 1700 looking at games of today, and seeing it plays them good enough was good enough to justify it over a 7700k.

but what about absolute max fps you ask? well... if I have shit run in the background, every % take off the cpu, will be % off the total fps, meanwhile on amd, every % off the cpu up to 50% is basicly free, or I limit the game to 4 cores and everything else to the other 4 cores and its like I have 2 cpus.

Headroom is nothing to joke about.
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>>60026792
I bought my 1700 knowing every game I play now will play good enough on it, and future games may take advantage of it, may not, but I tend to load my computer, at least my old one, till it was sitting at 30-50% used idle, the headroom for me is more valuable than absolute max.
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>>60026798
My i7-950 (a literal 6 year old processor that wasn't even top of the line then), running discord/youtube/50 tabs in the background, 10 3rd-party programs like dropbox, logitech, steam, etc.), the main bottleneck is memory, my CPU rarely exceeds 40% utilization while playing games at 1440p/165hz and running all that other shit.

I've even streamed from this machine with no issues. I dunno... literally the only thing my machine has trouble doing is handling lots of stuff going on while playing old games with crappy engines.

Someday I'll need the headroom over 4 cores but by then we'll be on Zen2 or Zen3. That's why I ended up going with 7700k.
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>>60026820
>till it was sitting at 30-50% used idle
How much malware did you install? Jesus... What processor were you using. Please tell me it was old as shit.
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My cpu was a phenom II 955 be, and I had constant shit running that would eat cpu, but yea, ram was more of a bottleneck for that, its why I got 32gb, sitting on 15gb use idle right now and don't even care, cant wait till the harddrive is done copying so I can put the computer through its paces in games as I can feel how shit my old computer was.

granted, with no gpu drive installed, I loaded up an 8k youtube video and played it, 30-40% use during... any amount of doubt I had in how big a jump this would be was out the fucking windows the second it played smooth.
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>>60026925
The more ram you have the more is allocated and appears in use. You need a decent system monitoring utility to see whats legitimately in use vs just set aside. If you can get by with 8gb of DDR4 you can get like a fucking 4266mhz kit for the price of 16gb of 3000mhz. That said I use 16gb
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>>60026925
tfw I don't even have the bandwidth to play a 4k YouTube video. They're installing fiber in my city but using turtles I think, it's been going on for years.

Average idle right now with 15 tabs open and playing Spotify is 4%. If I start watching an HD Twitch stream it jumps to about 20%. (on my 6-year-old proc).

That said... I can't fucking wait to get my 7700k. It's going to crush my i7-950 so hard it's not even funny. Grats on your 1700 btw.
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>>60026973
The more RAM you have, the more that gets used... at least that's what I've read. Not speaking from personal experience (I'm rocking 6GB :( )
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>>60020321
look at the 6800k/6850k

They are good, but are they double the price good?

Will intel sell the 6 core i7 at 250$

The biggest thing amd has over intel is the price they will sell these at. also in well threaded properly programmed applications amd pulls ahead of even a 6950 because of its branch predictor, but for average users, those are unicorn apps.

Also, amd has a lot of fairly low hanging fruit, its a bit hard to say amd will have nothing on coffee lake by the time that lake even comes out.
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>>60023179
This was likely a review of a 1600x, so they put the i5's in there because its the price range, and they put the 1800x in there for perspective in the difference.
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>>60027006
It depends on the OS. Some operating systems try to load as much into ram as they can so improve performance, some dont.
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>>60019998
Jesus fucking Christ even Intel's best CPU is shit compared to Ryzen
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>>60027006
there is an amount that is in use and needed for the program to function, there is ram that the program could use to function better but can be given up, and there is ram is needed no mater what and it will go to the page file if it gets kicked out of ram.

>>60026973
I leave a lot of heavy programs open, so lets say I load all my shit and it needs 10gb no questions asked, I then load, lets give a real example, shadow warrior 2, the game demands 7.5gb or it will become a stuttering mess if not just hang on one frame for over 20 seconds till you make some ram available. This was happening to me at 16gb, and I decided fuck it Ill get 32gb and then 64 when the ram issues are sorted out. see I want 64 so I can leave 24-48gb to the system and have fairly large ram cache drive, this will help a lot with some programs that will eat a ssd if you let them.

>>60026983
Thanks, and I should also mention, the gpu is likely decoding the video rather then the cpu, when I did the tests, my system had a 4850 in it, I was waiting on msi to send the 1060 to me (rma'ed a 280x, got a 1060 6gb back... but due to how long it fucking took for the rma, I cant say im happy, but definitely satisfied with the result) and I highly doubt that was offloading any of the processing power to it. so 4k was at most 10% of the cpu use, 8k barely went above 40%, now with the 1700 at stock that is pretty much all the processing power I could ever really ask for, so seeing that, I decided to hold off on the oc till the next major bios revision comes in may.

1080p, the gpu is now being offloaded to so no reall difference cpu wise
1440p pretty much the same
4k sees the cpu go up to around 8-10%, with the gpu hitting 30%
8k cpu is only up to 20% now, with the gpu still hitting 30-35%, got to love offloading processing to another component.

Looks like I was right when I thought a new gpu would help my old computer allot.
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>>60026894
phenom II 955, chrome, and tabs auto updating, that would eat around 20%, then file processing eats another 10-20%

playing a video or something also would eat 10-30% and this is all what I consider my baseline.
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>>60023179
Basically the intel cpu experiences a lot of stutters while running games/benchmarks but they don't show up in the data.

This explains why everyone talks about how "smooth" ryzen feels. Basically you get a more consistent experience.
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>>60020413
I saw this and was completely sold on Ryzen. There is no reason to buy Intel for a 10% average difference in games when you can get so much better multitasking, application performance and even min framerates.
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>>60025280
>I play a lot of Starcraft 2
woah, are you from the past?
first person I see to admit he is sitll playing that thing, are you korean by any chance?
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>>60028408
What's wrong with starcraft 2
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>>60028424
same thing that is wrong with all blizzard games - stagnation
only koreans play it at this point because they like repetitive things
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>>60028445
so nothing
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>>60028481
you seem to love your crappy rock paper scissors simulator a lot, good for you, carry on
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>>60019998
>>60020016
>>60020041
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>4790k is still just as good as Intel's newest CPUs
Why is the CPU industry so shit? Have we reached the point where only small advances are possible? Is Moore's law still true?
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>>60028615
>Is Moore's law still true?
its dead for years now its not a law its a dead theory
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>tfw put together 6600k/1060 machine together after my Phenom II/6850 finally retired

I should have stuck with amd tbqh
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>>60028615
It was never a "law" to begin with. It was revised several times in the first few years to remain true, and it was more of an observation than a prediction.
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>>60028509
Former masters level 1v1, but I exclusively play arcade these days. It's got a healthy community still and the arcade maps have tons of variety. Remember MOBAs came out of Warcraft 3 custom games, they have a lot of depth. It's not repetitive or stagnant.
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>>60028650
>fell for the stutter lake meme because I built my PC 9 months ago and thought the "just waitâ„¢" meme was true
>also locked myself into Nvidia for a long time since I got a g sync monitor
>my 1070 actually broke twice, instead of RMAing it a second time I just got a 1050 for now and am hoping Volta will be better
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>>60028685
Yeah sure buddy
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>>60020487
>claim IPC is dead
It literally is.
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>>60028671
sorry i'm a chess fag, I never play strategies beyond casual
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>>60028756
Here's proof of the first RMA.
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>>60029010
Why would you buy a 7700k and a 1050?
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>>60020146
>>Single threaded Javascript benchmarks
>12% overclock
>no improvement in performance
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>>60029313
I never bought a 7700k. I have an i5. I got the 1050 because it can run games on the lowest settings (sometimes with the resolution turned down), since I didn't want to spend a ton of money on a replacement GPU since I'm just waiting until Volta.
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>>60019930
>botnet
fuck that shit
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>>60026635
7700K needs to OC to 5 GHz to even be worth it compared to Ryzen, dumbass. Most can only hit 4.8 GHz.
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>>60019998
>outdated benches
>2013 game
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>>60029905
So a 4.8 has the same single thread power as a Ryzen?
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>>60026925
A Phenom or first gen i5/7 doesn't have problems with normal HD.
>TFW I cannot stream anything above 480p
You can even game on a Phenom II, I once did it, the bottleneck were the 4 GB DDR2
>You could feel when enemies where around because of horrible drops
And please don't be retarded and buy a 7700K, get Ryzen or a used 5820K (What I recommend before Ryzen) or wait for Skylake-X.

Four core CPUs are outdated in 2017 and will be low end soon. Six cores are mainsteam now!
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>>60028685
I don't really regret buying Gsync, it was future proofing as AMD doesn't care about the highend market anymore. Unless AMD wants to return and would bring insane performance for half the price (Which would also justify switching to a Freesync screen) I'll stick with it. Ryzen at least gives hope they could return someday.
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>>60019930
Look at this little babby and his shitpost benchmarks. Get on my level, bitches.

" No matter how many times I write this paragraph, a lot of folks do not seem to "get it." These are very much "benchmarks." These are good in helping us understand how well CPUs are at performing calculations in 3D gaming engines. These benchmarks in no way represent real-world gameplay. These are all run at very low resolutions to try our best to remove the video card as a bottleneck. I will not hesitate to say that anyone spouting these types of framerate measurements as a true gameplay measuring tool in today’s climate is not servicing your needs or telling you the real truth."

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/04/11/amd_ryzen_5_1600_1400_cpu_review/4
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>>60028685
Sorry to hear that anon. I'll be picking up a 1700 and OCing for dat min frames and frametime. Be consoled that nvidia probably won't be taking as big a hit as intel, mainly value will be better but perf probably not as good as a gtx 1080ti, which ill probably get because the best high range monitors like X34 have g sync
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>>60025356
One thing I realized in a lot of benchmarks when it comes to comparing the new AMD stuff to Intel/Nvidia is that they are too scared to show the actual high ends of the Intel/Nvidia because they know that the blue/green team's highest end cpu and gpu will literally destroy their benchmarks. I realized this because they compare shit as far as 1070 but not 1080 because 1080 is just that strong even though he's like the weakest now of the current high end models.
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>>60020416
?
The minimums are 23fps higher.
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>>60027631
A RAM drive is a legitimate use IMO. Sadly my most played game is pretty bloated and almost 40gb otherwise I would load the entire thing into RAM at boot. That said going from ddr4 2133 to ddr4 3600 cl16 was a 20fps increase in averages so I went with 16gb fast ram over 32gb.
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>>60019930
I just tried the Google Octane benchmark, it fired up one core and left the rest sitting there idle for most of the test.

I'm fairly sure these results are accurate.

>>60020110
Why?

>>60020203
Be honest, nothing is "faster" than a i5 sandy bridge for Internet browsing. Nothing is faster than a i3 for that matter. I have a 100/100mbit fiber connection. Pages load fast on my desktop and they load fast on my slower laptop and they load fast on my cellphone. You might as well benchmark saving a textfile in mousepad/notepad.
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>>60019930
>amd releases chips on par with last gen intel
>amazing AMD leading the way

>amd benches 30 fps behind intel in some games
>NOPE DELETE IT

>580 power consumption through the roof
>AMD WINS AGAIN

>ryzen beaten in more and more games
>WHO PLAYS GAMES ON THEIR PC ANYWAY

fuck you, these threads arent even interesting
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>>60030162

yea, you can easily game on a phenom, I was doing it till recently, and didnt honestly feel the need to upgrade for gameing alone till i want to see a year or two ago, any game that ran like absolute shit on my computer at the time was either a game or genre I had little to no intrest in.

as for ram, 16gb ddr2 running at 677, as over volting it scared me a bit, lets say I fuck it up and burn out the ddr2, that would likely mean I fucked my computer as my old ram would likely burn out on it too, so in the interest of getting the shit to work, downclocked from 800 to 677

I may be able to deal with low fps, but never think I enjoyed it.

as for the cpu, 1700, fucking love the thing. the moment the taichi came in stock on a non ebay/foreign site I jumped on it.

Im at the ass end of transfering every file from my old computer to a new hdd in it and after that I can dick around with it a bit. kind of annoying that I have a 960 evo in it but cant figure out why it reads so slow or if it even is reading slow... I got nothing on the issue and apparently no one has an answer online. It may not be using the correct driver, but god knows I don't want to change that because worst case scenario I fuck my boot drive irrecoverably and have to wait on a new hdd to get here to install an os on it again.
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>>60031077
This is Intel's best CPU for gaymen.
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>>60031148
personally the quantity is more important then the speed for my use, and looking at the day one benches, enve that is more then good enough in my books, got my ram clocked to 2400, and with some fucking around I may be able to get it to 2600-2900~ range, but I figured fuck that, ill do the oc and ram shit after then may bios that is suppose to fix ram issues comes out.
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>>60031077
or because its a mid range cpu paired with what is most likely going to be the gpu.
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>fps for a botnet browser
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>>60020331

you intel shills shouldnt post this bench to prove your point.

look at the minimum fps :)
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>>60020016
>Titan XP
that's the old Titan XP, not the new Titan XP
fucking nvidia and their naming schemes
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>>60020440
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>>60019947
>>60019961
>>60019998
>>60020016
>>60020176
>>60020331
>>60020390
>>60020413
>>60025139
>>60025163
>>60025177
>>60025356
>>60026734
>>60030224
>>60031496
>>60025359

>all these shitty benchmark about VIDEO GAMES
>they are measuring the power of a processor with FRAMES PER SECONDS in FUCKING VIDEO GAMES

You are cancer, and you are the fucking reason why every single piece of hardware is marketed "for gaymer" nowdays

I have nothing against playing games, but damn, it's not what are CPU about.

Pic related is actual power of Ryzen
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>>60034257
posting few more non-game benchmark
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>>60031316
>on par with last gen intel
Sure, if you completely disregard multithreading and think 25% single core is a dealbreaker.

>30 fps behind intel
In games that were badly in need of a patch, or just poorly coded garbage.

>580 power consumption through the roof
This has nothing to do with Ryzen, mouthbreather. Vega is coming out in a month anyway.

>ryzen beaten in more and more games
10-15 FPS at 100+ FPS is meaningless unless you're some eSports faggot.
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>>60034269

You should read ServeTheHome's ryzen reviews - while all linux based for the most part it has the 1800x annihilating some very, very expensive server parts (like some dual haswell xeons).
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>>60034635
now post the memory latency improvements
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>>60035787
6.4ns
lost the picture
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>>60020142
This
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>>60023342
>Intelshills reduced to posting outdated single core Javascript botnet benchmarks
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Does anyone else find it funny how AMD marketers here make it seem like you need 64 cores 128 threads to play something while browsing stuff and watching a stream or any other kind of mundane multitasking shit like that?

It's hilarious how all out of a sudden these things are simply not doable comfortably on any i5 now that Ryzen, which was marketed as a gaming chip as well, falls below cheaper intel stuff in that regard.
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>>60036539

Notice how suddenly power consumption doesn't matter? Along with the likes of blender and cinebench? Awfully suspicious if you ask me.
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>>60036587
>notice how suddenly power consumption doesn't matter?

Yeah, gotta save 10w/h for better battery life on my desktop.

>Along with the likes of blender and cinebench?

Indeed, I too buy my cpu to run synthetic benchmarks 24/7. It's not like real world performance is what actually matters, nah. Just like my bulldozer was an outstanding chip that destroyed competition everywhere since it was at the top positions of my VERY IMPORTANT synthetic benches, amirite?
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I have an i7 3770. It demolishes everything I throw at it at 60 fps, but I may be switching to a 100hz ultrawide soon. What should I upgrade to? SHOULD I even bother?
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>>60036539
Yes. Isin't it funny how the Intel shills are now looking forward to extra core Skylake EX and Caffeine Lake to 'annihilate' Ryzen.

>But more cores don't matter!
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>>60034348
>In games that were badly in need of a patch, or just poorly coded garbage.

Heard this meme before when I had the POS known as bulldozer (8120). It was always "x t-thing is t-totally gonna fix it! Just wait!"

One thing I loved when I switched over was the peace of mind of not giving a single hint of a fuck about anything and just running stuff at max performance instead of monitoring my garbage CPU and trying (and failing) to fix its shortcomings.
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>>60036782
Intel cores are already vastly superior. Now if they have the same core/thread count, which has been the only saving grace of AMD since the Bulldozer days, how isn't that annihilating them on all regards, again? You're not the brightest bulb in the box, aren't ya?
>>
Edge is the fastest in octane, should I use that?
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I probably have a dozen tabs open. 6600k @4.5
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>>60036837
>vastly superior
lol no they ain't, at same clocks intel cores are within 2 ~ 7% of ryzen cores, everything but "vastly superior"
that's why the 4 cores ryzen are so close to the 4 cores i5, because the i5 aren't clocked absurdly high like the 7700k is so you actually get to see how close it performs
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>>60036664

>damage control

Neither blender or cinebench are synthetic workloads. Firestrike is synthetic.
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>>60020041
>>60036972
6600k
>>
I think we should use this thread to discuss all benchmarks that fit my conclusion that Ryzen is a disappointment and they should have given up on Ryzen for K12. AMD has committed the sin of not empowering ARM to win in the long run and they must pay the price. We must flood forums and comment sections with the truth about AMD and how they are harming consumers by keeping legacy, inefficient x86 around in place of ARM on the desktop.

We must also get to the truth that tech sites lied and said Ryzen is better than it was. Tech sites have constantly been on AMD's side. Look at history, it's true.

By focusing on the honest, true review sites and benchmarks, we can clearly see that Ryzen is not competitive with Intel's greatest CPUs and it never will be. We might as well close this thread, Ryzen will never be competitive with Intel. Their only option is to give up on x86 and focus exclusively on ARM.
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>>60036809
The patches are already out for most games that were having issues. Others like Fallout 4 and ARMA are permanently shit, but they're trash anyway.
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>5960x
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>>60036837
>Intel cores are already vastly superior
AHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

The 6 core Coffeelake is going to have vastly reduced single core performance compared to the 4 core version. It's going to be all the drawbacks of MOAR CORES and then some, with higher TDP added on as a bonus.
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>>60036539
Right now i5's are already hitting 100% CPU usage in modern games. That 100% isn't magically going to become 120% with the power of wishful thinking and Intel magic single core pixie dust.
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Cherry pickers!
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>>60029318
that right there should tell you that the benchmark is fucked.
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>>60037312
If anything the die will be larger thus more surface area and better thermals. But given the die shrink, it will probably be about the same size as Kaby lake, unless they revamp the iGPU as well. Something like 300mm^2 is ideal
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>>60037678
So basically, shitty TIM for life.
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>>60036539
>Using Bulldozer meme with old Green AMD arrow
>You can get 12 threads with the same gaming performance as an i5 for the same price which shits on the i5 in literally everything else
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>>60037731

>hot
>slow
>600x800 benchmarks

Oh how times have changed.
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>>60038131
600p? What do you need 480p for?
>>
it's a shame zen bombed so hard, it's basically sandy bridge ipc in any workload that isn't synthetic garbage. maybe amd will finally make something worth buying in another 5 years.
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>>60038373
*chases shekel down the street*
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>>60038193
480p? What do you need 144p for?
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>>60037310
>AMD ryzen on top at Warhammer
Please don't tell GaymersNexus they need Intel shekels
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>>60038819

The GPU results have the fury x beating the 1070 and coming in marginally behind the 1080. What is the money /g/ will claim the game is rigged against Intel and Nvidia?
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Although I wish Intel would be broken into a dozen small companies, I had a terrible time with AMD some years back, so I went with Intel. Can't complain.
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>>60020068
You must be stupid to ignore those Minimums on the 1080TI and TitanXP
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>>60036972
>>60039036
1700 @ 4GHz
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>>60036664
>>60019947
>>60019961
>>60020041
>>60020176
>>60020489
>>60025177
>>60025163
>>60025147
>>60025139
>>60025359
>>60026734
Holy shit, the day one damage control
>>60036539
>>60039036
Reasonable but still
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>>60039402
Raja pls go and stay go
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>>60039411
>he would defend this
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>>60039577
why is there a 1% difference in the first place? Isn't kaby lake just skylake with clock boost? Is this software improvements or something?
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>>60034257
>says games are pointless for benchmarking
>posts numbers that mean almost nothing in real world use
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>all this amd shill damage control
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>>60039624
Margin of error
>>>60039710
>literally endorsing someone who defines their entire career by video games
He wouldn't even be that bad if he didn't always sound like he just woke up.
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>>60039710
>5.1 GHz OC benchmarks
>Duct taped SSDs

Fucking genius right here.
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>>60019930
>he buys his CPUs
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>>60041485
>not soldering your own CPU's like Ahmed
>>
ryzen 1700 owner here, been using intel for 10 years in the past.

shit is smooth
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>>60041519
>soldering your own CPUs
>not soldering your own CPU machine that engraves microcircuitry on silicon wafers for you
>why even live
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>>60037273
>blames the games and calls them shit just because his out of date fire hazard of a cpu can't run it

Next you're gonna blame other people for voting Trump when you just stayed home masturbating to furry shit the whole day while the election was happening.
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>>60037268
>Intel's greatest CPU
32/64 thread Naples
Intel is about to get its ass blasted with NO LUBE
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